S254: Is the man in the hat an alien? Or something else?

Welcome to the Kentucky XFiles season two with your hosts dennis Maize, Tyler Stewart and Josh Gibbs. Don't forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss an episode. Now onto our show,

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you. Welcome back, guys, to your Kentucky X Files.

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This bird was on the opera. He trained his whole life to be an opera singer, but he just had to be a Jungle Fowl. His dad wasn't supportive.

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Shout out to jungle fowls. Thanks for all the chickens. I get. Right? I don't know what else to say there. What can you say? So here we are. We've been having an exciting night. We've done all kinds of shit tonight. You guys out there, listen, you have no idea the stuff we get up to when you're not supervising us. There's no telling what kind of trouble we're going to get into. We were left our own accord all over the place. Yeah. To our own accordions. Yeah, our own accordions. None of us know how to play them. No. Not even a little bit? No. Not even one lesson. Pretty sure I have an accordion in the closet. Do you really? Pretty sure I do. Yeah. Kind of borrow it. I don't know if it still works. Okay. It's old. We can take a look at it. It'd be awesome. I'd love to dig it out of band practice tomorrow and see if it still plays. Yeah, that sounds fun. All right. So by now I'm sure the secrets out that your favorite three handsome Kentucky podcasters in the paranormal and unexplained phenomenon have a website. It's pretty awesome. And what is that website? I can't remember. What was the website again? It's like super easy to remember. Www.kentuckyxbiles.com. Kyxfiles.com. Did you just shores of us? I think I did.

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Damn these Christmas beers. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm just finding myself just slipping more and more into dumbness as I go here. I just love that. Yeah, that's what they mean by getting into Christmas spirit. Yeah, I'm definitely getting into Christmas spirit, that's for sure. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Out of nowhere we were sitting here messing around. We were making a video for the YouTube channel where we watched some paranormal videos, I guess from Tik tok that my daughter sent over. And we pretty much dissected them. It was pretty fun. And then we were like, let's just hit livestream and tell everybody about our website. And again, I'm going to say it, we should have probably had a website a long time before this, but it's even better because we have it now. And you can go to that website and you can send us a voice message, you can send us an email from it, you can register if you want to be a guest on the show. You can tell us your encounters on it. And it literally has access to every single thing that we've done. Yup. And if you're in the streaming side of everything. And that's all, you know us from there's links to all the videos we've done. Absolutely. You don't want to say that we're coming up. We're coming up a little bit. We're contenders. Yeah. I feel like we're bona fide. We're making something of ourselves over here, folks. We got prospects. So what we got you guys want to dig into some of the YouTube comments? I know we got one in particular that we were looking at earlier, and it had to do with our last episode, the shadow People. Talking about the shadow people, and I'm trying to figure out I want to read these in order. Oh, you know what? We got to go back a little bit further. I'm sorry. But, Josh, I apologize. This has to happen. Travis Drum, he commented on episode 253, Shadow People, and he says, well, I had to comment. I've been to Wyoming. I lived and worked out there for a few months. It's absolutely gorgeous out there, and the people are very friendly, thus debunking my theory the Wyoming isn't real. I even made that comment back to him. I said, and Josh's conspiracy theory has been debugged. And he said, if he believes me okay, Travis, just to put it out there for you, bud, your story has been corroborated by a random picture I found on Facebook today, and it was so ridiculous. It was about bed sizes, and I had no idea that there was two sizes bigger than a King, which blew my mind, one of which the largest is the Alaskan King. It's the biggest bed, nine x nine. Yeah. And then there is the Wyoming King, which is seven x seven. And when I seen that, I was like, well, shit, I want to know, like, what's the perfect like, what makes it a Wyoming King? I know the size does. Why did they name it that? Somebody from Wyoming. I need to make a seven foot bed. So the other person in Wyoming besides Travis decided, I've got to have a bed, and I'm six foot eight. So there's only two people. There's just Travis and the other guy. Yeah, that's who Travis is working for up here. The one guy that has a mattress company making Wyoming King mattresses. This sounds like this sounds a little bitter.

Participant #1:
Reluctantly, folks, it feels like Josh is maybe backing off of the Wyoming thing just a tad. So to put it in perspective, not a retreat. It's a reposition. I have been on that hill for the better part of probably two decades, if not a little longer, claiming that Wyoming doesn't exist, and every single person has done the exact same thing, save for Travis. I've never met anybody from Wyoming either and immediately went, what the hell? What if he's right? I've never seen it on anything besides a map. So, Travis, you were the first person in probably close to 25 years to step up and say, yeah, I've been there. I just feel like it's probably because you've been talking about talking to people around here. Most of the people here, we never left the state. We don't go anywhere. Yeah. We're content with where we live. Yeah, but I mean, still, like what are we going to do, drive to Wyoming to see if it exists? I'm just saying, I guess we got to take a road trip. Yeah. See if there's any Wyoming bigfoot. I feel like I say it wrong. What? Wyoming. Wyoming. Wyoming. Wyoming. I feel like I put too much seam. That's another reason why the state feels fake. Just giving him more fuel. Yeah. Anything we say at this point, he's going to bend it to his can say the name. So it's not real. Yeah. You hesitated when you said the why part. Name their football or baseball team. That's the Wyoming. Wyoming cougars. It's the Wyoming beds. Everybody knows that. The Wyoming camels, the Wyoming bed frames the box springs. You ever been to the beautiful box Springs in Wyoming? They run fresh water right out of the hills anyway. Yeah, so I don't know, man, I love how we stretch this comment. I'm leaning towards Wyoming, probably there. But because of loyalty, I'm just going to stick with Josh on this one. I don't know. Travis has not produced a picture yet. That's true. He used to work there. Are there any pictures of Wyoming out there? That's what I'd like to know. Yeah. So what else we got here? Molly Lollipops, I think her name is. That because she wants me to say that on the air. You know what I mean? Right. Molly Lollipops. It's a matter of time before I mess that up. Yeah, she said, where I'm from, growing up, I always heard the tale of the white lady. Then I moved to Kentucky and I heard another white lady story. So I guess everywhere has a story kind of like that. I think so. I think so. It kind of takes the magic a little bit out of the folklore, but it is what it is. The secret was going to get out eventually. And then she went on to comment again that said, yeah, if something like that freaked out my dog, that would be it for me. No thanks. Hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving. I had the dreaded C word, and I guess it was about time. Since I never got the shot, my dog stares off into the dark. I always call her name like that to snap her out of it, but it still freaks me out. But then sometimes she'll lay directly facing a corner of a wall like she's in trouble or something. And she gave me a little laughing emoji there at the end. You guys can't see it kind of looks like a little kitten. Or maybe it is a dog. I can't tell. A little dog laughing. I don't know, it's really tiny. Cute. What else we got here? This one's pretty heavy. Okay. So I'm going to try to make sure I get these in the right order. It's in regards to the man in the hat. Here where I live. This is the comment is from a guy named Kentucky Goblin, which we're going to be trying to get him on the show to talk to us and you're going to hear why in just a second. Here where I live, in northern Casey County, in the area where my house is. These types of things are always going on. Also, stories go back years of the Hat Man.

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Let's see, what else has he got here? A wide brim hat, long coat. These things are real. Also the small ones have been seen next to him. I said, that's him exactly. He said, every time it's the same thing. The wide brim hat, the long coat. You cannot see any facial features or legs or feet. Always almost out of one eyes view, but not all the way. He goes on to comment saying it was seen on camera during the daytime across from my aunts just up the road. For me, it was just standing there next to a fence post. That's pretty heavy, in my opinion. Yeah. And then the last comment, which I will admit, this is the one where it caught me off guard a little bit. He said, right here on the place where I live, the Hat Man has a story of how it and my late cousin battled for over a year, every night, sometimes during the day, until my cousin died of a massive heart attack. And he said it went as far as my cousin, I think he taped it in a small camper he had and then he burnt it to the ground. I have started investigating around here for him, but quite frankly, I'm a little afraid of getting it started again. I'm always on the watch for it. So we have definitely got some lines put out to him. And he has the email address so he can get us his phone number so we can get him on the show because I really would like to hear the rest of that one and see where it leads from there. What do you guys think of that?

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It's crazy for the fact that his cousin it's terrible. This cousin passed away. I don't know if I wanted a little bit of elaboration. He didn't have a massive heart attack while he was fighting this thing. Was he feels like is that the cause? Could that have been the cause of yeah. I don't want to say it out of context, but what I'm getting from it is that apparently his cousin caught it in this camper and then burnt the camper down to try to get rid of it. I don't know that's wild, man, but that man in the hat is just something that pops up all the time. This is a very known but this is like the first time I've heard one. We've all heard the stories about the man in the hat, but other than the bowler hat one from Bobby Mackeys, this is the only one that I would say that has been more malevolent. It actually was messing with his cousin basically enough to it was messing with him enough to try to trap it inside of a camper and burn it to the ground. You know, this thing had to be messing with you hardcore to just say, you know what, screw it. Let's light this bitch on fire. I'm just saying this is crazy. I would like to hear more about this story if you would like to tell it. Yeah, I understand. It's a little touchy touchy subject, especially his cousin passing away and I sorry about sorry to hear about that. It's terrible. But it's one of those things where like somebody you're seeing something and something like that. Something has to be there to be like having that kind of scenario go down. There's a couple of good theories over on the lineup.com. It says here UFO ologists have their own take on the Hat Man. They believe that the sightings of this figure could be visits from alien species who are observing the human way of life. As most accounts of the Hat Man sighting report, he merely watches them from a doorway, closet or corner. It lends some amount of credibility to that theory. Another theory claims that this is a creature from another dimension, a ghost with more physical control than most, an astral projection. And some even go as far to say that he is the devil himself. Yeah, pretty well, I like the theory about other dimensions. I kept saying that we're literally over top of another dimension. So say where you guys are and I am, we're in our houses, but in their dimension it could be somewhere like in the middle of the living room or in the middle of like a field somewhere and people like these beings from that dimension are passing through and we're just seeing shadows. Our reality is kind of like blending a little bit. I don't know. I mean, I've never seen the man in the hat personally. I personally have never seen him. I suspect that me and a friend of mine took some pictures years ago that might have been a shadow person. But you know what? I actually commented on that. I did a short after thought on our new website www dot kentucky X files.com that you can check out where I did a little follow up. Right. So basically I was giving it a little test run and what I basically said, if I can find it here, I'll give it to you guys. Let's see here. Yeah, let me skip a few. I'm not going to read this whole thing. I said in the early two thousand s. I went ghost hunting. And I say that very generously since my idea at the time of ghost hunting was a couple of cameras, some beer and a few buddies to tag along. And we caught some interesting images that almost looked like a shadowy figure in them. The pictures themselves. How is that description any different than now? It isn't at all. The pictures themselves, I suspect that I know where they are. Buried in an old attic box and probably fading more and more each day until time itself claims them as its next victim. But I wonder if I ever get a chance to dig them out. Would I still think that I saw a shadow man in the images? Or was it the young version of me desperately wanting to be creeped out that night by a successful ghost hunt? I still stand by that. I don't know if what I saw was that or at the time, I was in the spirit of the moment and it just lined up perfectly. Right. The Bobby Mackey's pictures that we took back then were something else completely. It literally looked like a hand coming out of the ground. It was nuts. One day, hopefully, I can reclaim those pictures and I guess the scanners still exist. Is that still a thing, scanners, where you can scan in pictures? Because this is all film. Yeah, we've got one here. Nice. So if I ever get a hold of those yeah, it would be nice to be able to get them uploaded. I know where they're at. But it would be a monumental feat to reclaim them. Yeah, the whole shadow man the Hat Man, I should say, is just I don't know, there's some people that think that it's just literally like what do you call it? Like kind of like what do you call, like a hallucination or something derived from, like, monster movies from the like Freddie Krueger. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I don't know, I kind of feel like that's just if I had a nightmare about Freddie Kruger when I was a kid, if it was Freddy goddamn Krueger in my dream, it wasn't like shadowy version of him. Now, I've seen the Hat Man, but I've never seen him straight on. Right. It's always been like the peripheral. It's always that double take. It's never been a face to face thing, and I can't explain it. It's a weird phenomenon, I guess, that we all have that fear of the it's all dark, scary. If you see it, what do you do? What the hell do you do next? If there's one standing behind Tyler right now, what do you do? You know what I mean? We just sit back and watch Tyler. What do you do if there's one standing in the corner right now with you? So man, that's just Ted presco. I'm trying to watch my weight. So, like, when I would see one back in the day. I haven't seen one in a few years or maybe at least two years. It was always, like I said, out of the peripheral. And if I turned and looked, they would disappear. It wouldn't exist anymore. It didn't make it any less scary at the time. Because how you can't explain that stuff away? How do you explain what your mind fills in the blanks of and tricks you in the moment? You can't you just kind of go, what the hell did I just see? And then you don't tell anybody because they'll think you're crazy.

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So that's how I dealt with it. But I've seen it a few different times growing up. And even in my twenty s and thirty s, I've seen it. Do you think there's any correlation with the men in black? I know that probably seems like a far stretch, but you know what I mean? Like it's a shadow man and a hat and then he got the men in black

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shit. I apologize for that. Yawn. It came out of nowhere. I don't know. I think your second comment is correct. That's a hell of a stretch. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting theory though. Yeah, it's crazy. But unfortunately though, even though the man in the hat, or the hat man, whatever you want to call him, it's like he has grandfathered in like several creatures since. If you look at the similarities, look at the slenderman, you know what I mean? Well the picture you just sent in, the discord looks more like the babadook. Right. So that I'm saying it's like this is something that's kind of I feel like these are related. Sure they are. You know, I actually heard it one night when I was listening to the facts by how to Hunt. He read an email from someone who said that they saw one of these things and the difference in their experience was that it was all like a shadow until it turned and looked at them. And then all it was was this gaping mouth that opened up just full of fangs. That's intense. I've never seen one move. Yeah. And I'm like, what the hell? You know what I mean? And some of the depictions where they show it, where it's just a black shadow and it's like bright white where the eyes would be. I've never seen that. And what's weird about it though, to me is that when you catch it in your peripheral, you would think that something moving would be what caught your attention, not something perfectly still. It's so crazy. Yeah. I found that the Quora website, or Quora, I don't know how you pronounce it. There's a bunch of comments for people here. One here is from May 6. And the person says, I can't believe that other people saw the same thing. In 2012. When I was in elementary school, I used to live in an apartment on the second floor and I remember one day when I got home from school around four to five, it was still sunny outside home by myself. I was watching TV and I saw the hat man shadow. Looked like the shadow of a man in a trench coat wearing a fedora on the wall next to the TV by my living room. I didn't really get freaked out at the time because it was daylight, but after a year or two, when I thought back about it, I thought how weird it was. I always think about it every once in a while while I'm thinking about how it was even possible. It is really crazy that other people have seen the same thing and I'm just now finding out. And then it's a whole page. Here's one right after that that responded to that one. I seen him two months ago, two nights in a row. He paced outside my bedroom door for two nights, coming at about 130 in the morning and leaving shortly after daylight came in. He was pacing. I won't go into every detail of my experience, but I will tell you I thought it was my brother in law checking to make sure I wasn't doing anything both nights until I actually seen his face on the second morning. I was not scared because I never heard of him until I found out for sure. My brother in law was asleep both nights and had no idea what I was talking about. All night long he kept me up and never said a word, thinking it was my brother in law. I got upset with it because he wouldn't stop pacing and keeping me awake. I startled him twice when I knocked on the wall. Suddenly he seemed very surprised and left me alone when I turned on an audio Bible and came back when I turned it off. It's pretty wild, man. Yeah, I wonder what the significance of that. I wonder if that's why people assume that he's like a demonic entity or something

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as possible. Yeah, maybe he's not Christian and he's like, I'm not going to your church. He walks away. It's pretty well, it's amazing. Here, I'll send you guys this website. This is crazy. How many people have literally put their experiences on here? There's no way I could read all of these, put it that way. And then some people trying to correlate is the hat man part of the shadow people? I don't know. But yeah, it's wild. Hopefully this Kentucky goblin guy, hopefully he gets back to us and we can get him on and get his story because I'd really like to hear about this whole event. For sure. I would love this guy to come on. Well, assuming it's a guy. Yeah, that's true. Whoever the Kentucky Goblin is, we want you on the show. Absolutely. What else we got here? I'm trying to look back at our comments to see if there's any more here.

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You know what? I think that's all we got for these. Do you guys know we're going to be on Sasquatch Odyssey Sunday? Technically, about that, it'd be yesterday. If you're listening to this Monday morning, that's a good point because we're time travelers that we're going to be on yesterday. It's amazing how nice our best friend Brian is to us. You know what I mean? Like, I know we're not supposed to mention it. You don't want to bring it up to him because he's shy about it, but still, it is amazing how cool Brian is and that for some reason likes talking to us. Yeah, he likes to have us around and that's cool. Do you think we make him seem smarter? That's what I'm saying. Better by comparison type thing. Yeah. I wonder if we're an example. He's like, all right, you hear these guys? Be thankful, right? Very cool. I hate to admit it, but I can't remember a lot of what we talked about. So if you guys are listening to this and you haven't listened to that, you need to get over to Sasquatch Odyssey and check out the I don't even know what it's called because it's not out yet, but it's going to be for you. Yesterday. God, this is so weird. Time travel. Tyler, are you okay over there? You look tired. Are you tired? I'm good. Sure? Yeah, I know. Did you have to get up like crazy early today?

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Yeah, that sounds terrible. What time are you up, Denny? I'm usually awake by five now. I got new hours now that I have the new route. Right. So I'm up by five and I'm usually out the door by about twelve after. Nice. Yeah, I think my first alarm went off at 330. Yeah, see, I don't have any of that anymore. Second one off at like 345, but that wasn't bad. Yeah, anyway okay, sorry. No, I was just saying are we ending this episode? Because I don't know that everybody wants to hear us talk about our daily grind. They already have their own daily grind that they have to worry about grinding along right now. And we know that we're right there with them. And if you're listening to this early, just know that as soon as this episode dropped, at least two of us have already been up for around 3 hours. Yeah, we're out there with you. Not me, though. Not me. I'm usually clocking in right as the episode drops. Yeah, that's one bonus. It took me a while to get used to it though. I wasn't used to the new what do you call it? The new sleeping habit. Basically not having to rush through everything and sleep. You know what I mean? Right. I had something here, I'm trying to bring it back up. I wanted to show you guys I don't remember what the hell I did with it. I've been way too busy. I've literally spent ever since I got home today, all I've been doing is working on Kyxfiles.com. That's all I've been doing. Just trying to make it a better experience for you guys out there. Shit. Out of this website. I was supposed to help, but I fell asleep. I'm just going to say now that if you're digging around and all of a sudden we get a picture of Esteban and Discord. Yeah, man, that ain't even right. Yeah, that's been a thing, guys out there. I don't know why, but I've been bombing the guys here with Esteban pictures for literally no reason. I can't even explain myself. Yeah, I found something here. Hold on. You guys are going to like this. I think you're going to like it. It was pretty cool. Paleontology news. Crown crocodile. I don't know, it might be the swimming velociraptor that hunted underwater. Do you guys hear about this? I did not. Okay, so this is a new discovery, right? This thing was the size of a duck, right? It was a raptor and it literally jumped in the water and hunted shit. It hunted anything it ate underwater. And they've never found one before. Like it. So this is like the first, you know what I mean? Like first where they found it is what cracks me up. Cause it's like a perfect example of we just don't know shit. They found it in the Mongolian desert, right? So it's like, here's a dinosaur that we know swam underwater and hunted underwater and we found it in the desert. So right there. If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about how much we don't know, there you have it. At least that's how I feel about it. That's pretty cool. What are they calling it? Shit, man, you know what? I don't know. I don't even think it's been named yet. Velocity raptor. Ductta raptor. Yeah. So I've got some paleontology news. What's that? Apparently in Australia, a skull of an animal that lived 260,000,000 years ago is on display now and it's known as the crowned crocodile. What? Yeah, it's pretty wild. I must see if I can find a picture of it where I can just send it over. Let's take a look at this. I'm sorry, I feel like I've been out of it a little bit because I was reading some stuff. Yeah. Was we ending this episode or was no, that was all you, buddy. I thought we were I'm sorry. The way you guys were talking, it sounds like you were wrapping because you said you didn't have anything else. I don't even remember saying that. You said you didn't have anything else on that. Like, I thought you were wrapping it up. I was like, man, it's already been an hour. There you go. There's a picture of it. All right. Crowned. What is that? That looks like a crocodile mix with a trike. And we wonder why people thought dragons existed. Yeah.

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Wow.

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Yeah. I can understand that part. But then on top of it, like, where did the freaking fire thing come from? But I know we kind of dissected that in that episode, saying that maybe it was lost in translation when some people said,

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spitted something at me and it burned. And then they translated into his oh, it breed fire, or something like that. That's crazy looking. Yeah, it looks like a crocodile hippo. That's what I was thinking of. Like, what with moose antlers? Crocodile, moose antler. Hippo, hipposaur, hipposaurus. I was wondering what the heck that was sitting in front of it at first. Hipposaur truck, little baby. It was like a prehistoric animal, a prehistoric fish or something that they were like they were like, this thing has been extinct since for like, 260,000 years. It turned up fine. It's alive. It was over off of the coast of California. I was like, speaking of fish, like, what the hell, man? You segued that perfectly for me, and I don't know if you need to do that or not. I didn't, but I got all these BOOKMARKS and I keep flipping through them, so I've got fish news, fish news, fish News. We need, like, a noise for fish news. Like the Bloop Bloop loops or, like, maybe

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the drag on the real

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oh, my God. Apparently of nowhere, a fish landed on a beach in England somewhere in a British beach. And it's a type of ocean pufferfish that has enough of a toxin that can kill 30 adult humans. Good job. And it's in its skin and flesh, right? Like, just touching it, dude. How did they figure it out? So it's kind of like the frog that was it the arrow frog or something. Like the skin itself that's poisonous. Oh, yeah, the poison arrow frog. Yeah, poison arrow frog. Yeah, it was a frog. Yeah. It carries this terrotoxin or whatever it is. tetrotoxin. Tetro. Tetrodotoxin. Tetradota. I thought it was more badass. They call it terrotoxin. That sounds like a sludge band. If I was Aerotoxin, that sounds like Crowbar's next album, right? Kirk? You can take us later. How many people had to have an unfortunate demise to figure this one out? And that's the thing. I'm going to resend the link to the discord here so you guys can see, like, why would anybody want to touch this thing to begin with? Look at that thing. I wouldn't touch it. What the heck is on the side of it? It's an eye. No, it looked like a claw coming up inside. Oh, that's a fin. Okay. The little thumbnail made it look like a claw. Yeah. Okay. I'm looking it on a big screen, so that makes sense.

Participant #1:
Yeah. Like, why would you even touch that? Even if I didn't know it was poisonous, I wouldn't touch that. You know what I mean? What was that one that you don't like, Denny? Is it the lamprey? Oh, God. I don't know what it is about them things, but I hate them. It's like a giant leach. Yeah. Lampreys can attach to you, and they have these crazy fangs and they just, like, stick to you. So I got one more piece of pretty cool information here that I was saving. Scientists claim to have found a fossil of a dinosaur killed on the very day that the asteroid struck the Earth. Okay. Really? Harbor dated. Yes. It was a perfectly preserved leg of a thessalosaurus, complete with scaly skin. And I can actually send you guys an image of that, which is really cool. But check this out. How cool is that?

Participant #1:
It has all the scales. Yeah, man, it's really cool. It says the site that they found, it was actually, like, really super rich with fossils of all kinds of shit, like turtles and fish. And they even said that they even have the embryo of a flying pterosaur, like, actually encased in its egg. And it says that the scientists believe that the tiny glass like particles of molten rock that are lodged in the gills of the fish fossils were actually kicked up by the asteroids. Explosive impact. So pretty cool. Honestly, it's like every year, every year we're getting more and more of these discoveries. It's getting more and more accurate. How would you guys feel? I get it. The basis, like, how you would feel. But just being a creature back then. I believe animals and creatures, they have thoughts. They either talk to themselves in their own native way language, but you have thoughts. You think, like, you know, dog thinks about ball, cat thinks about playing with a mouse. I just like to think about those animals that were just chilling that day. Just that day. Just wondering, like, do you think that there was, like, it's a good fucking day. Like, the sun is out. Like, man, this is like a bitch. This is a bitching day. Like, I am going to go eat some shit. Like, whoo. Better watch out, right? And then just like, look up, like, what's that noise? Do you think that there was, like, this baby trex, like, woke up and he stretched his tiny little arms out, like and he's like, oh, shooting star. I'm going to make a wish. I wish for more shooting stars. I don't know. There's too many.

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Yeah. I don't know, man. It is a Paleontology episode by default. I have another paleontology story because paleontology is the shit, man. Awesome. This one also hails from London. Apparently, tucked away in a cupboard in the storeroom was a fossil of a lizard that upon its rediscovery, just rewrote history. How did you do that? Because this entire time they thought it was a different specimen than what it actually was. So I'm skimming through it as we're talking here. So bear with me. Let's see here. They were the paleontologists at University of Bristol, a guy named David Whiteside. He was going through the cupboards in the museum and stumbled upon a skeleton that practically rewrites the history of modern lizards. Let's see here. He found it in a drawer labeled Clavosaurus. An ancient reptile belonged to the group of rhinephilia. I'm hoping my pronunciation is remotely close to the right rhinestone cowboys or yes. Copy that. One particular one caught his eye, and it was a 70 year old discovery that had been sitting in this. They just tucked it away for 70 years. He quickly realized it wasn't one of the Brinestone cowboy source did not match. They took an Xray of it and see, with high resolution scans, they found out it definitely was not a Clovosaurus. It was a separate brain case in the museum's collection. That's really awesome. That is pretty cool. So it was like, what, mislabeled or yeah. And this is a little fella too. He's only 30. Mm. Jesus. Just a little bitty guy.

Participant #1:
Okay. His new find is called Cryptovrenoitus because crypto means hidden in Greek. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And the rest of his name. So basically he's a hidden small butcher because it was blade like teeth. Very cool. That's pretty awesome, man. I think it's pretty cool. I love it when they discover stuff that we already have because they have, like, piles of old fossils that they still don't even know what it goes to. Right? Super cool. I'm still that kid, man. I'm still that little kid that loves dinosaurs. I'm never going to grow up in that regard. Right? Man, you guys kind of, like, caught me with my pants down here. All the stuff I looked up have nothing to do with pan ontology. It just kind of like snowballed. Yeah. I'm just like saying, you guys are so good at doing that. One pulls leather, the other one pulls leather. I'm like, I don't know what to do. I can segue you a little bit. All right. I hope it's something that I've looked up. Are you guys ready for a shitload more triangle UFO sightings? Okay. I have some UFO stuff if it's time for it. The Pentagon has debuted a new stealth bomber.

Participant #1:
Okay. Yes. There's a brand new stealth bomber that's going to be out there flying the skies. And you and I both know and you I don't know why I said you and I when there's three of us. It was the royal you and I. It was the royal the original stealth bomber. The original Batwing bomber caused a lot of problems, right? Yeah. A lot of people saw UFOs because of it, because nothing on Earth looked like it. Well, there's a brand new one, which means they're going to be flying again. The new B 21 raider. B 21 raider. It's a nuclear stealth bomber. Oh, Jesus. You know what that means, don't you? I don't know. Quiet as hell. Is there any pictures of it? I just sent a link. Let's take a look. At this. If it's a big triangle, I'm going to be pissed. It's only triangle. I don't see like, a top view of it, though. No, but you could tell it's a big triangle. It's a big triangle, isn't it? It's a big triangle. So they've been testing this thing out. We've been seeing it. Some of it. Yeah. But it's a white triangle. That's true. We are looking for a black triangle, aren't we? The lighting, it's whitish gray. Yeah, it's kind of greyish. It's pretty cool. Yeah.

Participant #1:
What's the name of the plane that they we read something. I can't remember what episode it was that they were saying that this was like a self bomber or some I can't remember what plane they said it was. You remember that? Yeah, I just can't remember the actual we were talking about

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video. It's funny that you mentioned that problem that we can't remember what it was exactly because we have this website oh, man. Www.kyxfiles.com where you can actually go back and you can even type in just a random sentence that you remember from that episode. And you know what? It's going to take you to that episode. That's on the stealth bomber technology, too. I bet you guys don't know this, but our website is being hosted by a stealth bomber made of dinosaur bones and UFO parts.

Participant #1:
Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why it was exciting. I thought it was just a simple, like, website service. I was totally wrong. Yeah, I know. Surprise. Me too. Surprised. Me too. I'm still surprised. My face hasn't changed. I'm like, can you believe it? I can't believe I thought we were going to have to go on the Dark Web for this. So we got UFO stuff. We got more UFO stuff, you said. Yeah. I sent you guys over some stuff. If you kind of scroll back up. Okay. I guess I'll start with a massive black ring. Yeah, let's start with this. All boot.

Participant #1:
Apparently this person, it's in Singapore, literally. Just like if you guys just picture what the fuck is that? It looks like a smoke ring, but it's black, you're mungered. No kidding, right? Black rain flying above centosa birds. Migratory. No, it's not birds. Yeah. Unless could be, I guess the only other option that I have because the way that the smoke is kind of smoky a little bit, maybe a llama or backfired, and it pooped up a smoke ring. That is one hell of a smoke ring. Have you ever seen starlings when they do their crazy sky tricks? It looks like smoke. Hang on a second. I want to see if I can find but it was saying on this whole thing that it was also reported the same sighting was found in the exact same exact location in 2017, five years prior previous.

Participant #1:
Pretty wild. Yeah. So I'm going to pull this video over here. I'm going to send it to you guys is there no way to zoom in on this picture and just zoom in like crazy and see if it's just a bunch of birds flying around? Take a look at this. Okay. This is Starlings doing the absolutely crazy acrobatic stuff. All right, now, these guys are close to the ground in this video. Imagine if it were higher up. Oh, yeah. But look how many there are. This is just a big flock. There's no guarantee that it's going to be that many. See, they even go into, like, ring formations and stuff. I see it. Yeah. Okay, so I guess there's a possibility that that could have been Starlings. Do they have Starlings there? Is that something possible? Centosa. Let's see. Island in Singapore. Starlings.

Participant #1:
I'm not seeing anything.

Participant #1:
Okay, so explore complete list of birds for the spot. There we go. Let's look. There you go. All right, so I'm just looking for starlings, right? Starling is one species that does this. Is there a bunch of species that do this? I'm sure there's more than just Starlings. It was just the first birds that could come to my mind because of how oh, my God. Oh, my God. I am going down there's. 190. Yeah, there's a bunch. Hey, look what I found. Number 63 on the list. Red Jungle Fowl. Shout out, thanks for all the chickens.

Participant #1:
You can tell that at this stage in our human history that we've run out of names to name new birds. Yes. And bird names are just ridiculous. Like this one here. The blue throated bee eater. What does it do? That's just getting lazy, guys.

Participant #1:
I feel like this one is a good name. Which one? Black back dwarf kingfisher. That's pretty cool. So they absolutely have starlings in Singapore. They have the Asian glossies. Okay, I have to say this, and I'm sorry. It's killing me not to say it. Get this one. The Watercock totally it snowed the way you think it is, too. Well, it kind of makes me not want to bring up the one that I was going to say now. Pinstripe. Tit babbler.

Participant #1:
And moving right along, what other link did you send? So I think we need to do an entire episode just reading off bird names. Bird names? Yeah. Just an hour of us reading ridiculous bird names. Is that this NASA astronaut one? Okay, I'm going to open this one up. This is so much worse, bird names. And I need to get out of there fast. I'm sorry. Astronaut al Warden. Yeah. He was one of the astronauts on Apollo 15 mission. Okay.

Participant #1:
He went on record, basically. He went on to the Good Morning, Britain TV show, and he said that he believes in aliens, but he believes that we're the aliens. He believes that we got in tiny ships and came here. And he even goes to say, if you hold on, let me find where did he say?

Participant #1:
I just had it.

Participant #1:
Yeah. And if you don't believe me, go get a book on Ancient Sumerians and see what they had to say. They'll tell you right up front. Well, you know what? To go into that a little bit. No offense to anybody out there that's descendant of ancient Sumerians, but the ancient Sumerians did write a lot of crazy as shit. Yeah. And I will say that Ancient Sumerian text is pretty wild. Like, their gods, some of the stuff that they wrote about, some of their what do you call it, their artwork and such, there's pictures of Ancient Sumerian, like, what do you call it? Where there's literally, like, UFOs in the background. So it's like you know what I mean? They were onto some weird stuff. Yeah. And some of the parts of this article, it states that it's more likely that aliens come from somewhere under the seas or caves or something like something like that, rather than outer another planet. I like that one. Caught my eye when I read that because of how, like, I know a lot of these UFOs that we've talked about, that ones that we really can't explain, they have something to do with water. But then again, there's something you can talk about it's like this, okay? If they came from the seas, why do they need water? Especially, like, the one that last episode that we did for the one from Michigan, it was sucking water up. Like, if it can go in the water, then why was it needing the water? I don't know. I still say they're using it for cooling, but if they're going into the water, then that's what I'm saying. Couldn't they just go into the water and use the water? Like, suck the water up that way? I mean, I'm sure they could if whatever craft they're using is submersible. Well, that's what I was saying, because they're saying the aliens are coming from the under the sea or caves. If they're coming from caves, I get that. But if they're coming from the sea, then that particular one sighting that we were talking about, especially, like, there was episodes that we talked about, I think you were even saying it was in season one, the craft actually went into the ocean and came back out. I can't remember. I think it was the splash video. Are you talking about the one in the Arctic? Yeah, in the Arctic. I think that was the one. That's what I'm saying. The under the sea one kind of, like, caught me because of, like, we've talked about some of the UFOs that actually have some kind of relationship with the water. Look at this, too. Is it one of the most literally, hands down, probably the most infamous and famous, I want to say, like, alien UFO books ever written is from a guy named Eric Von Donikan. If I'm saying that right. I don't know. And it literally was a book about the ancient Sumerians being in contact with a race of beings that were the Anunnaki. And that book came out and it was called Chariot of the Gods. And it still hailed as one of the greatest books as far as this topic goes. What does it say here? The theory is that the Anunnaki hybridized their species in Homo erectus in a form of vitro fertilization in order to create humans as a slave species. And it says here the Anunnaki were forced to temporarily leave Earth's surface and orbit the planet when the Antarctic glaciers melted. That caused the Great Flood, which destroyed the anarchies bases on Earth. These had to be rebuilt and the Anunnaki needing more humans to help. This massive effort taught mankind agriculture. I don't know, but even the use of the word anunnaki is actually a Sumerian word that describes a group of deities that they believed in. I'm saying whenever it comes to Sumerians, it's always going to go back to this now because this man literally made this this thing famous, you know what I mean? Their artwork, the stuff they depicted, you know what I mean? Even right here, it says 1976 book called the 12th Planet claimed that the Anunnaki were actually an advanced humanoid extraterrestrial species from the undiscovered planet Nibiru, who came to Earth around 5000 years ago and constructed a base of operations in order to mine gold after discovering that the planet was rich in this precious metal. There you go. There's tons. I see all kinds of books here. So I've just rediscovered an article and I mean, this isn't the only site I've seen it on. This kind of refers to a lot of this about an alleged former CIA agent who had said that he's seen aliens from Roswell at Area 51. And apparently he admitted to all this on his deathbed. He just flat out said, yeah, these are all real. He said that he saw the crash and that it was like just all mangled up and that every alien in there apart from a couple, had died. He said that the spaceship used reverse gravity engineering to fly, claiming that he later gained the mathematical code for it. Wow. I could get behind that because I think that's how they move around, right? Yeah, I don't know. Definitely bears more digging. I'm saving all this stuff to dig more

Participant #1:
of. This guy's left himself anonymous, too. Really? Yeah. The person who interviewed him left him anonymous. Pretty wild, man. They don't go after his family or something? Probably. I don't know, man. It's crazy. Fellas, we are like, well over an hour here. My bad, guys. I've been out of it. Sorry, listeners. You know what? If I was the worst human being, I would make a fake ending right then earlier in the episode and fade it back in and just continue the episode. But we all know that I'm not the greatest as far as following through with my editing promises, so let's just leave it at this. We're going to edit this out later, guys. We promise. I tell you what. You're definitely a better website builder than an editor. Oh, no, I didn't build it. I didn't build it. It's a template, but a really good one. Yeah, but it still got filled out by you. What website are we talking about again? Yeah, what is it? If you're feeling like you need to see some super attractive guys talk about creepy stuff, head over to www.kyxfiles.com.

Participant #1:
Shipping included. All right, never mind. You guys out there, you take care of each other. We're going to get Tyler to bed, tuck him in. Poor little poor he's still tuckered out. He's tuckered out. It's okay, though. He's been working hard. He's got a big day tomorrow. Writing a bio. I know. Apparently. Can't wait. Tasty pictures. That's what we're going to have to have. Very tasty. Alright, you guys out there, take care of each other. See you.

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