Episode 4: Candace and the Dogmen

Participant #1:
Welcome back to the Kentucky X Files. All of you guys who recently subscribed to this and followed this on Spotify again, thank you so much. It is Monday the 4 January. I don't know what's the date it's going to be when you hear this, but for us it's Monday, the fourth night. We already touched on this subject, but we didn't really get as far, I don't think, because we didn't have anybody to talk to about it. Well, our guest tonight has a lot of experience in this subject. And Tyler, can you guess what the subject is? I'll give you a hint. Sort of like a bigfoot sort of like a werewolf dog man. The dog man. So, Tyler, Denny, you know, to be quite honest, I don't know exactly where she's at. I know she said she's about 25 minutes away from Louvre. That could actually put her in Indiana too. So I'm not real sure. She might be in Indiana. I ran across her in a bigfoot and cryptozoolood group on Facebook. A lot of cool stuff getting thrown back and forth. There a lot of videos and pictures and there's some crazy, crazy stuff on there. But the dog man has been kind of a problem subject, especially. I've taken it personal at this point with the dog man. I've got a bone to pick because we're trying to learn more about the dog band. But when you get that right down to it, there's just not as much out there as there is for the big guy, you know what I mean? And a lot of times when you run into the subject, you've run into one and there's the other, you know, somehow links. And some folks believe that the dog man is a subspecies of the bigfoot and some people think that they're a different species altogether and they don't like each other, as we touched on in our previous podcast, I don't know. But that's why I'm excited about this guest, because I want to hear some accounts. I want to hear what she's going through, what she's what she's experienced, how it made her feel, if anything. What could I expect if I happened upon something like this? Still, listeners, tonight I'd say stay on the fence. Let's hear what she has to say. Maybe we'll learn something new about the dog man. Maybe it'll confirm stuff we've already heard. But regardless, it should be interesting. Again, thank you, everyone, for subscribing and coming along this little journey of this relatively unknown podcast. We appreciate it. A lot of our recent subscribers were on Spotify. I think that's really cool. I'm really blown away. Yeah, really blown away. This is awesome. Yeah. We just kind of like out of nowhere, this whole thing. Yeah. And it's gaining a little bit of steam, and I'm proud of it. I want to keep going. Yeah. I would love to hear from you guys. If you have an encounter, send us an email hit us up at Encounters at K Yx files.com. Really interested in all things from aliens to UFOs, werewolves, dragons, the mothman, bigfoot, you name it. You tell us what your experience has been, and we'll get you on here and hear your story. So? Yeah. I don't know. What do you think, Tyler? What do you think about tonight's guest? Already got anything. You. I'm going to touch on the two episodes, especially the one with Lee, some of the questions that we kind of had for him, and then maybe ask her questions that we kind of discovered in our conversation with Lee and then kind of what we discussed with our second episode, where we kind of dissected about the dog man. So I'm kind of looking for that. I'm wanting to see if she can shed some light. She said that she's been dealing with this. I remember you saying, like, around eight years on this property. About eight years. Okay. She sent me a lot of pictures, and some of them are atypical what you would expect is blurry. You know, it's hard to see stuff, but there's a few where I looked at them and I could see something. I'm not sure what I'm seeing, but I could see something. I would like to touch onto this. She says they come in different seasons, and I'm really interested in that because I've never really heard that before. Okay. That these kind of keep returning to this area. I'm really curious as to what she herself believes that they are. Okay. And ladies and gentlemen, listening, I would love to hear your opinions on tonight's podcast too. If you want to comment, go for it. There's a Facebook group, Kentucky X Files. Now there's a website you can comment on there. There's the email. You can send us an email, let us know what you think, reach out to us. Let us know. Let us know what we need to do better. We're curious, very curious. We're curious. Little fellas. A lot more comfortable tonight. Yeah, we've been dealing with an old house here. A lot of pipes and wiring going everywhere. So we've been dealing with a little bit of buzzing and some of the mics. But tonight we've got a rare everything's quiet, everything's nice. We've got some noise going on in the house here, but nothing too big. And we got a couple of couches pulled up, and we're kind of relaxed. I hope you are too. Let's hear Candace's story. Hello? Is this Candace? Yes. This is Candice. How are you doing? This is Denny and Tyler from Kentucky x Files. I am doing really good. So I've been talking to you back and forth for a few days here, and you have got to be the person that has the most interaction with the subject of the dog man that I've encountered so far. How long has this been going on? Eight years. Eight years? About eight or eight and a half years ago. Yeah, it all started back in 2012. Okay. Closer to 2013. Okay. And how did this begin? I've always lived out in the country and everything, and now I had never had encounters with dog man before, but I've had encounters with Bigfoot. Okay. And as far as the dog man, we relocated to Charlestown, Indiana, and it was for a job and everything, and I've been in nursing for 35 years. I'm now retired, disabled, and I'm not able to work anymore, so I have a lot of time on my hands. And when we first moved here, we were living where there's, like, a strip of woods, but the creeks were surrounded, like, by the Ohio River. And then the forestry is, like, right up the road. Where I'm living at now, where I've had all the encounters is I'm rural, but I'm not real rural, you know, like living way, way out. I mean, I still live close to towns where if I wanted to go walking, I could walk to town. But where I'm at, I'm surrounded by creeks and the woods. And, like, if I go out my back door, it's about an acre and a half or so of nothing but just field. And then there's a little road that cuts through there, and it gets a lot of traffic on it. And then there's another burst of wood with the creek running through there. And I had taken my grandkids over there to go arrowhead hunting, to go down in the creek and stuff. Okay. Well, before all this, I kept getting smells like skunk smell, a dirty dog smell with, like, feces and all that. I mean, it was nasty. And I said, oh, my God. See, what I contributed it to was Bigfoot. I said, oh, there's got to be a Bigfoot around here. So anyway, where I was living at from 2012 to 2013 was in an apartment complex, and it was surrounded by woods, and that's where it first started. Well, I lived there for about a year, and then I moved away from there and moved down the road away to a better place, which those same woods are right there with me where I'm at now. And so anyway, it was a month of August or September, and I was sitting out back, and I was looking straight ahead because all I have is that field in which I could send you pictures of all that. I was looking at the field, and all of a sudden I've seen this tree swaying back and forth, back and forth, and I looked to the right of me off my patio, and I said, well, those trees ain't moving at all. There's no wind. I wonder why that tree is blowing like that. Well, about maybe 25, 30 minutes later, all these dark clouds come over, and it went from being sunny out between August and September. And the reason I say that is because there were still leaves on the trees and stuff. And I know it had to be around August. It gets cold because I was out back setting and I had on a short outfit. So anyhow, I got to look in at that tree and I thought, Why, that tree is just moving back forth like crazy. And then the dark clouds come over, and I've seen two little boys running down the road. Well, before you come over the road, there's like a little bridge there, and it's got the tunnels under where all the water it's not supposed to flood and stuff, right? So when the rain started, it just drizzled a little bit. The two little boys I've seen jump into the woods because there's trails back through there and stuff, okay. And I've seen them jump in the woods and take off. Well, about that time, I'm still looking at this tree and it takes one big step and vanishes. I'm like, oh, my God, that was a big foot. I hope they don't give them kids. And well, the kids made it back homestakes, but it was a bigfoot. So I started telling my daughter and stuff, and I said, I knew it. I just knew it was a bigfoot. Well, then I'm sitting out back. There is so much stuff. I'm telling you, it's hard for me to even know where to begin. I was sitting out back and the people that take care of the acre and have two acres of field behind me, they hadn't cut it for a while, so it was kind of grown up. I would say if you want to walk through it, it would go to your knee level. I'm five eight, so it would be at knee level. And all of a sudden I thought I'd seen something dirt across the road. And I'm just kind of sitting there watching. And all of a sudden I see the tall grass start parting way. Well, as it parted way, I was like, there is no way that a possum or something is coming through there making that big of a difference in the grass parting. So then I've seen something, solid black climate tree. I've seen it sliver up the tree. And I thought in my mind, I'm thinking, bigfoot, bigfoot. You know, I start taking pictures. And I started taking pictures in the tops of trees. And I started taking pictures wherever I could hear them. Like if I couldn't see them, if I couldn't see them and I could hear them, I would take pictures. That's pretty clever. Yeah. And so that's how I started capturing pictures and stuff. And I started seeing this black thing going up the tree, and I started taking pictures. And then I kept having beer come over me about whether I should go in the woods or not. So I just never went back there by myself. So there's always been somebody with me, meaning kids from a neighborhood up the road. A lot of them go back there, and that's what I mean. Like, there's been more than me see it. My grandson has seen a tall gray one and the tall black one, okay? And he's nine years old. Now they're coming around. There's multiples. Well, I'm going to tell you why. And this is my belief, okay? This is what I feel about them, because I can sense them. I know when they're around. I know when they're not there. And I don't know if it's a connection, but my dad's almost full blooded Native American, and I was taught I come from a really large family. There's seven kids. And I was taught at a young age not to ever tell people what I know or what I see and to not tell anybody because they would come and take me away. I understand,

Participant #1:
okay? And I'm very sensitive to these things. I was back in the woods one day after I seen the bigfoot go, and I just so happened to be back there, and there was other kids back there. So I told the kids when I ran up on them, I said, look, there's things back here that you kids, you all need to get out of these woods and stay out of these woods, because there's something bad back here, and I'm afraid somebody will get hurt or get taken or something. Right. Anyway, on one side of the wood that is so weird, one side of the wood, it's like it's normal. You can walk in that. You'll see all the signs, okay? Everywhere I have went in those woods, they put up an X after I leave, or they take and get all these branches, tree branches together, and they'll stack them up where I don't go in that way. So in other words, they're telling me to stay out where I was going in before. That's where I found the burials. Now, when I first found them eight years ago, there was only two. Now there's like four or five, and there's big ones and little ones, and I have found hair coming up out of them. And what's really weird, you would never think in a million years that these were burials. A lot of people, when they go into the woods, they think, oh, watch us. The dirt bound. There's Easter Willys and there's Tiger Willis and stuff. But I'm telling you, they have to be so intelligent to put the Easter lilies and the tiger lilies to grow on the burial site. Really? Wow. Where the bodies are buried. Yeah, easter lilies grow up out of it. And I went over there one day, and there was a man with this hound dog, and he was just standing there, and he and I got talking, and he told me, I suffer from PTSD. And I just did three tours in Afghanistan, and he was ex military and all that. And I started talking to him about, do you see the trees? Do you notice anything about anything? And he's like, what do you mean? So I started showing him my pictures, and he said, well, where'd you take those at? I said in there. Where your dog's at? So he freaked out, and he got his dog out of there, and I told him, I said, well, come with me. I want to show you something where there's burials. He said, no, I don't want to see nothing. And I said no. Seriously? I said, It's on her way out. Just come with me. I want to show you. And he bent down and touched the mound that I showed him, and he pulled up black and white hair, and he goes, oh, my God, look. And so I turned and looked, and I've been over, and I touched, and I got the black and white hair. And he goes, Wherever there's hair, there's a body. And it freaked him out so bad. I haven't even seen him since then. Well, yeah, and he was walking. His doctor there say a lot I could definitely understand. It's a subject, you know what I mean? It's well beyond a normal thing to encounter, so for someone who's already suffering from some kind of PTSD to experience that on top of it, I can imagine it being overwhelming. Well, see, I had the warning because he was telling me how that was his bloodhound, and, you know, he loved his dog, and it just meant the World Team. And I was like, you got to get your dog out of there and don't bring it back here.

Participant #1:
Anyway, when I was back there that day, I've seen something very long, and I'm talking if you can visualize something seven foot three to eight foot tall, let's say, it lays down flat on the ground like if we were laying on her belly. And you put your arm out to your side, and then you take your legs, and you get on the tips of your toes and your arms out to your side, and you're on the tips of your fingers, and you're walking, and you're crawling like that. It looks like a spider crawl to me. Well, and I've seen it, and I told them, kid, you all get over here by me right now. Did it see you? Did it react to you? Yes. As I'm watching it crawling on the ground and thinking in my mind, it's a bigfoot like a juvenile or something. That was my level of thinking at that time. All of a sudden, my grandson was with me that day, and this is before. I don't want people to get the wrong impression. I didn't know it was all there and then taking my grandkids to go be harmed or nothing. We were just simply looking for arrowheads and different stuff in the creek beds. Oh, no, because I'm thinking bigfoot, thinking it passed on and all it just went on its way. So we're not thinking anything still back there. But then I've seen it and I've seen one behind a tree and the one that I've seen behind the tree, I can't even tell you what I thought it was. I didn't think it was a bigfoot or a dog man. Dog man hit me hard. It came up behind this bush. And the kids that were back there playing could speak Arabic and they could speak Spanish. And so I told them to say in their native tongue, we are friends, we are not the enemy. And they were saying it in their native time. All the Arabic kids said it and then the Spanish kids said it. Okay. And I turned to look away at somebody standing on this concrete slab by these apartments out of the woods. And when I did that, it stood up and I'm going to say, okay, my brother in law is six foot nine, so this could have looked down on him, so it had to be at least eight foot. Okay? Okay. Well, I say seven, three to eight foot. I just know that my brotherinlaw six foot nine. It was bigger than him. Okay. Now when it stood up, that's when I knew it was a dog man. I thought I was going to have a heart attack and die. Yeah. Because I mean, when kids scream like no other and these were boys back there that were the ages 13 to eleven, maybe ten at the youngest, and they all lived in those apartment complex on the other side of the woods. They saw this too. Now they saw it too. Now they react. Yeah. And I've only ran into a couple of the boys that were like, oh, you're the lady that was in the woods with us when we see the dog man or the dog thing? Well, after it showed itself and there was more than one, and after it showed itself, like some of those pictures I sent you, it was bright and sunny out, there was no overpass. And every time I would take pictures and I would know that they were around or that I could feel them close to me. And the one where you see just the black thing, you can't see its face. But that day I was standing there and if it wanted me, all it had to do was step over that creek bed and grab me. It was that close. Okay. Do you get the feeling of menace from them or is it kind of an understanding? No, I get a menace filling from the dog man. Really? Okay. We're animal lovers and I thought I was feeding the squirrels and the rabbits and stuff like that and I'd always take and put scraps out in the woods. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And I didn't think nothing of it. Well, one day all I have to do is go out my back door and bam. I'm right there. I was standing at the edge of the woods, and I took one big step in. Well, whatever it was, was bedding down, because I think it's bigfoot and dog man. But I know what's back there has growled. It has growled at us. Okay? Now, the only time I've been grounded is one day I had to walk the kids to school because they missed the bus. And where that bridge is, a car was coming. So we went to get off the road and over by a little embankment. You can stand right there while the car passes, and it's grassy and woodsy, and everything goes into the creek. As soon as we got off of that grass, the road and got into that grassy area, it growled really deep. And my grandson, he was like Jeff sky high. And I grabbed him and my granddaughter. And then I know when they're watching me. I know when they're outside. They've been on our roof. Really? I've had a handprint out my window. I can hear them. And now I don't know if it's Bigfoot or the dog man that likes crystals, but I have a lot of crystals, and I have these great big, huge crystals on these rocks, on the big rocks. And I set them outside in my windowsill to energize them. And so I was going to bring them back in, but I had forgotten and left them out that night. Well, around 100 in the morning, because I have insomnia really bad. I have a hard time sleeping straight 8 hours. Yeah. So I could hear half hat tap, tap. It sounded like a rock beating on another rock. Okay. Well, I kept looking outside to see what it was, and I couldn't see nothing, so I slipped on the porch light, and the next morning when I went out there, one whole rock was completely gone. The crystals, every crystal was gone. And they have to be intelligent because they set it back in my window. Wow. Okay, so I must have interfered with them. There's one that I think is a juvenile, and he's solid black, but he's only, like, maybe six foot. He might be about six foot. And another one is, like, six nine. And then I sent you a picture of the little one up in the tree. Yes. Now, that solid white. Okay. Yeah. I'm telling you, there's some freaky stuff. And if you ever look up Greg Yoast Y-O-S-T. Or look up if you go online on YouTube and look up anonymous Bigfoot, okay, that's great ghost. And he don't talk in it. He shows you the evidence. And that's from the forestry around here. That's all bigfoot stuff. And it just devastates me because I tell people about it that they think I'm nuts, or they think I'm lying or think you're crazy. And I'm not crazy. Well, we want to hear your story. We're not here to call you crazy or rid of kill you. We're genuinely interested in what you have to say, and the folks that listen to our little podcast are interested as well. We ourselves are learning as we go also. But some of the folks who listen might have experience in the same things. And if we can't maybe help you shed light on something, someone out there might be able to reach out to us and then we can connect them to you later on. Yes. We're not here. Ridiculous. At all. Candace, we are here about this. Yeah, in a way, too. We're just trying to figure out, because no matter what, even if there's people out there making these things up, there are people just like you that you're seeing something. You said you've had encounters with these things, so it's not you're seeing something. Why would you spend the time to tell somebody and get rid of fuel for that kind of matter, if you didn't see something? Right? If I didn't see nothing, I would say so. Yeah. And also, too, as you've been describing, I've been taking notes of some of the things you're saying, and I was thinking that if someone else is having a similar experience to you, well, maybe they'll hear something in your story and they can actually reach out as well and say, hey, that's happening to me, too. And then maybe we can figure this out. But coming back to the dog men, how many of them do you think there is? Okay, well, now, I know they were in Pause and families, but see those burials over there? I don't know if it's actually bigfoot or dog man. It's in that burial site. I would give anything to go over and dig it up right now, and it's easy access for me. I mean, it's right off the main road and in the woods, and I'm going to say there's at least three or four because my grandson has seen a solid gray r1 tall. He said, Ma'am, it was tall. See, ever since my grandkids, they are not allowed to ever go outside by herself, ever. Well, what happened that day, and this has only been a few months back, that he saw the tall gray one with the little one. He said, Ma'am, I had a little one. And they come all the way up to the edge of the woods and watch. Really? Yeah, they do. What are they watching? When there's kids out, they're very intrigued with kids, so when there's kids around, you'll sense them more. And there's deer trail through here like crazy. Okay, well, I was taking one of my friends, Heather. She said, oh, do you really think it's dog man? I said, Look, I know what I've seen. So I described it to her. And when I see the face, the ears okay. I've got pictures where if you can look through them, you can see where they're bent down or squatting and you can see the ears on top of the head. Okay. But the one I've seen with my eyeballs, the ears came straight off to the side a little bit. Like if you put your hand on top of your head, okay. Take your right hand and put on top of your head and put your thumb down. That's about where it is, where I've seen the ears, okay. And they weren't pointing like the first one that I've seen. This other one, the first one that stood up on me was very pointed ears. It looked like it was matted really bad, like it had been rolling in the mud to get rid of the bugs or something. Do you have an abnormal amount of deers killed on the road around where you live? Yeah, there's always deer kill here. But I'm going to tell you this. I just seen an eight point buck back in November out my back door, and all I did was look away for a split second and that deer was gone that fast. And I got an acre to two acres behind me and it was gone that fast. And it makes me wonder what, did it open a portal and grab it? Or did the deer just take off back? Because the only other way that it could have been, if it would have went to the right where it was at, it would have went down a big embankment into the creek. Okay. I've had a little theory for a while that I wanted to throw at you here, and I've been intrigued by the dog man and lichantropy things like that for many years. And I always thought, well, how would a dog man or a werewolf or lycanthrop survive without being noticed? And I thought, well, in the movies they hunt people, but in reality I kept thinking, why not deer? There's plenty of deer. But then you would have to hide the deer carcass somehow. And I kept thinking, why not throw it on the road? And everyone would assume that it got hit over. Yeah. I'll tell you this, it does whistle. I mean, like I can go outside and I can stand in the woods and whistle or stand at the edge of the woods and whistle and I can turn and come back in and go back outside about another ten or 15 minutes later. And I can walk in the woods, take one step into those woods and say, I want to throw down some bread or something. I throw in there, it will whistle at me. And the last time it whistled at me, it was so close I didn't turn my back to it. I backed out. I backed out and I backed all the way to my patio when I did, then I turned and ran in. I can be outside and I can tell you if I'm feeling good about being outside or I can tell you if. They're sending me a signal of some sort for me to get my butt in the house, for me to go inside, that I shouldn't be outside. Kind of a built in human reaction to predators being there. I don't think I'll be honest with you. I think if they were going to hurt us, that they could. But here's my theory. My theory is that and this is also part of me being a fear, okay, they cannot. Now, if you're in their territory and in the woods, then, yeah, you can have stuff done to you and be killed and stuff like that. But I think as far as them attacking us in our territory, I think that once the bell is lifted, then they can but I think because the bell is not lifted, okay, that they can only come through the bell and they can take people. Now, I was reading recently about something very similar to that, where it was talking about basically fourth and fifth dimensional beings that are here, but they kind of aren't here. We can't perceive them very well because they are existing in a dimension above our ability to some people may be able to tap into that. Well, I'm one of them that can tap into it. Okay? So this is familiar territory for me here in this I often wondered that because in the Bigfoot community, there's kind of a tongue in cheek joke where it's bigfoot is just naturally blurry. And for years I laughed about that. But then one day I started thinking about it and I thought, well, what if Bigfoot is blurry because we don't really have the equipment to capture being that existing? Okay, well, I sent you pictures with that thing. I told you to look in the trees and you can see the outline of the body. Yeah, well, see, I have over like 7000 pictures. And I'm not saying there's something in all of them, but there is something in a majority of them. And I do have pictures where it shows the outline of their body. And you can see in one of them where I had it circled and I put knees. The reason I did that is because I could hear it breaking the branches. I could hear it breaking, pushing stuff over. And when it got to where it was in front of me across the creek, it pulled that other tree, like a real skinny little tree limb thing. It pulled it down to hide itself. But then I heard it coming around to the right of me. That's when I started snapping pictures. And see, I don't think they realize what our phone is because the pictures I told you that were lost. Now, I had some really good face bigfoot pictures and stuff. And what happened is I went on Facebook and I went on to a Bigfoot site and I posted my pictures. And the next thing I know, all my pictures are gone. And my phone that I took them on was that there wasn't nothing on it. Really? Everything was deleted? Yeah, everything was deleted. Yeah, sure was. What about the ones you uploaded? I sent them. Sent you all pictures. I'll show people, but I will not share them on Facebook or none of that. Okay. Because what happened too is I had been talking about certain things on Facebook, and I wasn't coming right out saying stuff, but I was giving clues to things, like kind of in a sentence. And you had to read between the lines. Right. And because of what happened, well, then all of a sudden, different men started asking me to be their friends. And whenever I would click on there to see what we had in common, there wouldn't be nothing. You could tell an account was just me. I don't know whose picture it was. And I was like, well, you know what? I do know quite a bit of stuff, so I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. How did you all find to get a hold of me? Did you see a comment that I post something? Yes, I was in one of the bigfoot groups, I believe, and I posted that I was looking for people to interview about their experiences. And you were one of the ones that responded to me? Yes, I did that. And I've only had one other person I talked to, and that was Victim. We kept getting cut off the whole time. Really? Yeah, we kept getting cut off and everything, it just had happened, like where it had stood up on me and I got so excited. Eight years is a lot of experience. Yeah. I'm trying to think like okay, I was telling you how I took my friend Heather in the field and she had her kids with her. And I told her little boy, he's like nine or ten years old, he ran up there. I showed her the deer trail along the creek, and I said, whatever you do, don't go by these deer trail because that's where they hang out at. That's what they follow. And they're going to think that you're food. And sure enough, as soon as I said that, he ran over there and the big black one stood up on us. But I think it scared it, and then it scared us. I see. And her son turned around and took off run. And I told him, darren Daubrine and I think that they've been around here for a long time because this creek and stuff that runs all through here, I mean, it goes all the way through. I know. It even runs through my cousin's property that lives a few miles back. Now, they do live out in the middle of nowhere on ten acres, and they got bigfoot and stuff on their property because every time that I show up there, they'll go from the tree tops and stuff and they'll call back and forth and I told my cousin, I said, did you hear that? She goes, yes, we hear that all the time. And I said, well, that's a bigfoot and she said, well, you think it is? And I said, well, yeah, that's what they do. It's amazing, the bigfoot phenomenon. There's so many sightings. You go through them and there's similarities and there's differences. Yeah, we've heard stories from other guests that have came out and said that they think that they're linked somehow or maybe they don't really care for each other and they kind of step on each other's territory a little bit. And then we've also heard that the dog man is more akin to something like a baboon where it's got the canines, it's got the longer face, but it's still maybe a sasquatch. I don't know. I've never experienced a dog man. Personally, I think this whole subject is fascinating. Well, see, I never experienced one either until like I said, eight years ago and I can describe it for you. The one that stood up, it was red. It had like brown hair and red hair. The face was, I'm going to say between a German shepherd kind of like that snout, but not long. It wasn't long like a German Shepherd and it wasn't long like a Doberman pinscher, but it kind of reminded you of that. Okay. And it had its mouth shut. So the only thing that I've seen was like saying things coming way down the side of its mouth. And it had hands, okay, hands like a human hand, okay, like a hands, as in human looking hands with long nails. It looks like claws more or less because everything happened so fast and it's like as it turned and ran and the kids are screaming and we all seen it and I'm trying to see everything I can. It ran and I'm snapping pictures back to back like I'm holding my phone up and I'm snapping pictures anyway I can. And something else I noticed too that day. It was like every time I snapped picture turn out dark. They turn out dark or fuzzy or hazy. But I think that is like the electromagnetic pulse that's coming off of them and our Earth. And I'm not so sure what's causing all that because all the other pictures I take are clear, really. And I do have clear pictures with them up in the tree and then they're laying and like up in the tree trying to lay different ways. But I think that they don't realize what our phones are because they see us looking down at them. They see them with our phones to our ears. They see us talking to them. The one that I've seen that day had real short hair. You could see its muscles. You can see everything. You can see that it's waist was tapered. Now when it turned and ran, I can't remember seeing a tail or not. Okay. I have never really think I've ever even heard of a tail on them. I don't remember seeing a tail. I know the legs. I tell you what the legs look like. The legs look like a dog leg, except for it was standing on them. It was standing on its two legs like a human wood. And the footprints that I have now, that's another thing. It's weird. The footprints I have are like big footprints. And I'm trying to think when this has been. Now I know. Deer coyotes. Now we have coyotes and stuff out here. Sure. I sent you a picture of a black dog like hybrid. Yeah, I saw that. Okay. Standing in the snow. Yeah. Okay. That picture is one that I opened my back door and it was just standing there and it was watching me. And its eyes were yellow, orange, kind of like an egg yolk. So when you say you opened the back door and it was standing there, was it standing outside of the back door? Yeah, my back door. And you're face to face with this thing? Yeah, I was standing out my back door. I have to ask, what was that like? How did you feel during that moment? Well, I was scared to death because I was freaking out. Really? Because I opened the door and I've seen it. And when I see it, I looked at it like, oh God, that's a beautiful dog. That's the kind I want. Well, I shut the door and then I thought, oh my God, the dog made things. So I opened the door back up. And when I opened the door back up, it was still standing there just looking at me. And I looked at it and it looked at me, but I knew to look away from it, not to stare it in the eyes. And finally I ran back here and was getting everybody up and saying, oh my God, come here, look at this wolf dog. It's a hybrid. And by the time anybody got there, it had been jumped over to the field in the back of me. And when I went to take a picture of it, it squinted as its eyes, like it did not want me taking a picture of its eyes. Then I shut the door because my daughter, she's like, oh, mom, that's somebody's animal. It just got loose, blah, blah, blah. So I would say that if it is one, it kind of looks a lot like what you see. The bigger okay, it's waste was tapered. This other thing. I have pictures of some really big dog prints, and I'll have to go in there and find them and I'll send them to you. But now the other print that I found, like, I know what's in our forestry. I know we got cougars, I know we got honey bears. Black bears was always more in Kentucky, but now they've been kind of coming to Indiana too. I think that all these forestry services and stuff, they tell you that all these things aren't there. Because if they do tell you about all these things that are there, then people quit going to them and stuff. That's my belief system. And I believe too, that they are very intelligent and I believe that they aren't going to bother me. Now, do I feel evilness or malicious intent? Well, I think that I want to rephrase that because as time has went on, I feel like they've had more opportunities to grab me or grab somebody else. It's just walking down the road if they wanted. I mean, if they're that close and they haven't heard anybody. But I think it is for us when you start getting the feeling of you need to back away or get out of these woods or get away from here, you just need to get back in the house. See, I feel like I have those feelings because they're getting ready to hunt or maybe they got to come out to hunt. And I had a girl, her and her boyfriend were living across the road from me. Now, this is how I ended up getting picture of the dog, OK? Her and her boyfriend were living across the street. She knocked on my door that morning and told me that there was a black wolf beside her bed. And I said, what do you mean beside your bed? She said, her and her boyfriend Carlos, now, he was from Mexico, but he was from where the Aztecs are, okay? He can even talk to the Aztec people. And he said that he felt like somebody had put a curse on him from Mexico because he was here in the States. And Devin told me when she woke up, there was a dog and they both woke up and they were both scared to death and they did not move. And they were trying to figure out in their mind how that dog got in their house. And she said that she knew the door was locked. Well, she said they covered their heads up and started praying and everything. And when they come back out from underneath the blankets, it was gone. Well, as she was telling me this, it freaked me out that morning because I was like, it had to be real because guess what I just seen out my back door. I was going through the whole scenario and she said when they got up, their door was locked. They don't know how it manifested in there, but it didn't do anything to them. I just sat there and stared at them and watched them. You said earlier that you've actually had these on your roof. Yeah, you can hear up on the roof out back on the patio. And then another friend of mine just lives like see, where I live? Where I live is on a cul de sac. Yeah. Okay. And there's, like, two bedroom apartments across from me. And then there's what these are is, like, duplexes. It looks like I live in a brick house. It's a three bedroom. There's me, then there's one beside me, and then there's one on the curve. But I live on the dead end in the cul de sac where all the woods and the creek and all that stuff is. Okay. And then if you go out my back door, I can see there's houses, another duplex to the left of me, but there's nothing to the right but woods. And through those woods is a log cabin. And then some friends of mine live in that log cabin. And when they bought that and redone it and everything, I had told him about everything. And they've had experiences. Now, the wife hasn't, but the husband, he's retired. And he said he was sitting out having his morning coffee and he heard something. He said he don't know what it was, but it scared him. So he went in because I did let them know what they were up against moving in there. What did he hear? He said he heard something, like, running like human footprints. Like something was running really fast and it was getting, like, really close to him and it let out a howl or growl or whatever. Yeah. And when he turned to look to see who was coming down the road, it was like 07:00 in the morning saying in June, because in the summertime I love to go sit out and drink coffee out back. I'll tell you about that too. I have been sitting out back on my patio in the summertime having a cup of coffee in the morning. And let's say you're sitting out on your deck or patio and you feel like somebody's coming up behind you and you'll kind of jump to see who it is. Sure. Yeah. You know, like it startled you. Well, I had that happen. This was back in June or July of 2020. So I'm sitting out there drinking my coffee. So I jump up, and when I turn to look to the left of me, see what's coming around my building, there wasn't anything. There wasn't anybody. This was like 800 in the morning. And so I sat back down and I was looking towards the woods and I looked straight out. For some reason, something, like, caught my attention and I looked straight out. And when I did, this great big beam of light, this big beam of light come up out of the ground and a dark figure came right there. It was right there in front of me. I don't know where it came from or whatever. All I could see was the outline of it and that it was solid black. You couldn't see a face. You could see the arms and legs, but it kind of looked like a bigfoot I couldn't tell if it was a bigfoot or a dog man. And when this beam of light Come up out of the ground, it turned, it looked at me, and it went right into the light, and it went straight down in the ground. So it came up from the ground? Yes. Okay. That's an interesting yeah, that's an interesting one for me. Well, it makes me wonder if my crystals didn't have something, there's a reason they wanted them, crystals. And if you look at some of the pictures I've sent, if you look at that little one that's going up in a tree, in one of them, it looks like that thing has a collar on, like, all crystals or something. Like it's lit up. Really? And when I've seen that, yeah, it had hands like a human, but in between, the hands were webs. Like, it was web. Okay. They spend a lot of time underground or in the water or something. They're real good swimmers. That's actually a question I was going to ask, is a previous episode. We had a man on here that he has his own encounters with sasquatch, and his theory is that they actually do burrow under the ground. That's why we can't there's not that many, like, sightings of them, and that's how they get away from us that quick, is because they can burrow under the ground or take a deer that quick, and they bury their dead. Yeah, he said the same thing. His theory on the whole thing, but well, he heard this from somebody else is that they were cannibals. They were cannibals, and plus, they buried their dead, but he kept saying that they would push a tree on top of it. That was one of his theories. That I don't know if it was his theory or somebody that he like, somebody told him that. Well, I'll be honest with you. I can go right over there right now towards burial bar, and there are no trees nowhere, but you can tell that the earth has been disrupted and stuff. I do believe it's the dog man up in that tree, and I do believe they can climb trees, and I know they watch the children. A lot of startling thought, but we really appreciate you taking your time to speak with us and tell us a little bit of your I know when we hang up, I'm going to be like, oh, man. I was wanting to tell you all something, but what I really need to do is sit down and write it out. I tell you what, though. If you have any more anything else that comes to mind and things like that, let me know, and we'll figure out another night that we can give you a call back and touch base and see if anything else has come to mind or maybe anything else new that might have happened between now and then. Otherwise, I tell you what, we really appreciate you talking to us. I'm glad you got in touch with me and that I was able to do this because, like I said, I've only really talked to one other person about it other than my family. Very impressed with your story, very impressed with your ingenuity in regards to you're taking pictures of them. And basically you've basically been studying this phenomenon for so long, I'm honestly starting to wonder if we'll even meet anyone that has more knowledge than you at this point because I've never heard of this much experience over this big of a span. I didn't think I had that much experience. I think it just comes from me knowing things spiritually and internally, and that me seeing what I've seen that I was like because I already knew about bigfoot and stuff, but I wasn't for sure about anything else until I seen it. And then when I did, I was like, oh, my word. I mean, what do you do with that other than you start looking up and listening to other people's stuff and trying to find somebody to talk to and somebody is not going to think you're nuts. I'll be honest with you. I don't care what anybody thinks because I know and god knows what I think. That's all you need. It's true. Those heaven and experience, it forces you into a kind of a constant search. It does. It forces you into a constant search. And then not only that, it makes you stop and think about reality. Yeah. It makes you question yourself a lot, too. It makes me question everything that you did. It makes me question everything you ever learn in high school, elementary school, or anything else. And that's why I've always went outside the box, because I knew there always had to be more to things. There has to be something more. Maybe we'll find it one day, candice. We might find what it is and we'll learn the truth eventually. Oh, yeah. Until then, I wish you the absolute best. And if anybody reaches out to us and says that they have had something similar, I'm going to try to connect them to you the best I can. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. I also have an email address that'd be perfect. And I'll send it to you, too. Okay, sounds great. You'd be safe out there. You got to watch those critters and try to keep your distance and be safe and take care of yourself and I'll hopefully talk to you very soon. Okay, well, thank you and god bless. All right, thanks. Bye bye. Candace's story. Yes. Wow. She has so much that at any given moment she says she has more. She has eight years worth of this stuff going on. And what stands out the most to me is we've got sasquatch. We've got dog man, an abundance of dog man. And then we have some strange lights going on. We have another denominator that we picked out was the underground thing. Yeah, we went back to a previous episode. I covered that. I said that multiple times in there big dogs that seem to appear and manifest themselves in different places. Another one that stood out to me was that these things tend to watch the children a lot. If you're familiar with the missing four, one one thing and the disappearance of children, that's kind of an unsettling thing there. Ladies and gentlemen, if you listen to this and anybody has had anything ever remotely like this, or maybe you can shed some light, or maybe we can put you in touch with candy's, please let us know. Email us encounters@kyxfiles.com. Let us know. Put in the subject Candace's story. Let us know what you think. Let us know what she got. We'll try to connect you to her, and hopefully hopefully we can help figure out and maybe understand what she's seen, and hopefully we can understand A little bit better. Wow. I wonder what if she said that they took the crystals out of it, and I guess they took them from them. I wonder what they use them for. There's a big group out there. My wife is one of them. She believes in resonating energy, in crystals. And I've heard there's a science to it. I personally don't know. I'll look into it. But a lot of people believe that crystals amplify energies and things like that. Because the way that Candace's story is, it seems like the sasquatch is not just your sasquatch or dog man or that typical Just animal or it's more of a kind of an intelligent being. Intelligent, spiritual being. That you think that it was attracted to those crystals or something like that. Maybe her maybe they're drawn to her. That clairvoyancy. Is that what she still has? She said she has a clairvoyance. She has, like, the gift of sight. These are things that throughout history Are disputed, but sometimes they just kind of manifest. And after someone predicts exactly what's going to happen on this certain day, it comes to pass. And everybody kind of sits there like, well, that was kind of weird. And then we just sweep it and we move on. We don't want to stop and say that. You know what? There's been a history of witches for a long time in sears. I don't know. I'm just saying. There was another thing, too. That whole flight response Everybody talks about, you get that no matter where you are, it's like you could be in a haunted house out in the woods, just a predator around you. Everybody gets this feeling sometimes it's just because your mind is playing church on you, because you're already thinking about it. But they are there said that there's some species that will send out a frequency that's so low that actually gives you that uneasy feeling. So another thing, too, is maybe this sasquatch or maybe defense. It's a defense that can drive us away you're in my little area that's the thing I read recently was that you ever thought you saw something out of the corner of your eye, and when you look, it's not there. There's a group of scientists that believe that you did see something. Is this the spectrum that you were talking about beforehand? No, this science is rooted in conventional science. And what they're saying is that the human eye doesn't have the ability to mistake one object for another. Okay? When you look at something, it might look like something else, and you're like, oh, that kind of looks like that tree looks like a duck. But as soon as you say that, you know, before you ever say anything that it's not and you're not mistaking a tree for a duck. It just is shaped sort of like a duck. But then they said that at some points in your life, you might swear that there's someone standing over there. You turn to look, there's nothing there. Your eye can't do that. It's unable to do that. So what you thought you saw in referip rows was your eye reacting to something that was there.

Participant #1:
So no matter what, like there was some type of shape. There was some shape there. It might not have been like you might have thought you saw a guy. It might not have been a guy, but your eye perceived something there, and it reported it to you. It's not that you mistook it. It's that your eye is doing its job. It's all something. It's relaying it to you. It's up to your mind to sort it out what it was. What they're basically saying is your eye is indifferent. Could it in a way, your mind playing tricks on you and it's making it seem like that's kind of what they're disputing is that, no, your eye can't physically make up random shades. They can't make up random things out there or random movement. Like something moved over there. It moved. It moved. Your eye did its job and perceived it. It's up to you to kind of sort out what it was. So in that science, which there that's creepy. It is in that science is a whole lot of ammunition for a lot of believers. Yeah, that's true. And like you said, it's creepy. It's creepy. So, ladies and gentlemen, are there dog men in Indiana, in Charleston? Are there species of these creatures, different types? The sasquatch, the dog man, the pale white creature that was jumping from tree to tree, are they really out there? That thing that you thought you saw in the corner of your eye, is it really there? Maybe you imagine it

Participant #1:
all right.

Participant #1:
You.