S404 - Death metal and bigfoot (Denny got banned lol)

0:03 Ah, yes, Welcome to the Kentucky X Files Season four. Young Masters. Dennis Mays, Just Gibbs, and Tyler Stewart are expecting you if you will follow me to the fire and on your way, subscribe to our YouTube channel, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Also visit us at www dot ky x files dot com. I now leave you to the Young Masters.

1:00 H but then I'm like, I'll move my microphone. Oh yeah, well, welcome back ads to your Kentucky X Files. Who ohh what about wow? Yeah? Wow? Yeah, yeah we forgot we need the applause.

1:41 Oh yeah, damn, I don't think. I don't think they have that today we've been Yeah, I don't know. They don't got that fucking fucking stream yard. Like cut my legs off there, I'd buy that fucking the podcast. They get to be like stream yards, like we got you man, you don't need that anymore? Like fuck are you talking about the Yeah, the road caster. Yeah that's been sitting there just looking pretty Yeah, well use it. We use it like if we can actually do a campfire episode this season. Hell yeah, that'd always always a use for it.

2:28 But I just thought it's like suck that we just turned around and use this. It's like, shit, this is thanks thanks stream Yard. It's just so convenient, like we don't actually have to get together and that saves hours, Like I would I would venture to say this saves like five to six hours an episode by being able to do it this way. Wouldn't you do any probably? I mean, I mean, you think about it. As soon as we get together. The first thing we're gonna do is just like we did today, We fucking bullshitted for twenty five minutes, no easy, and then we're like, oh crap, we should star because we're already talking about this shit we're gonna talk about, and then he's like, we need to hit record. The only difference being in person is usually, uh, there's it's like a couple of hours of bullshitting first, yeah, exactly, beers come out, and then yeah, we're talking about stuff that could never be shown yeah or heard by you guys out there. Then we gotta we also have to talk off the beer because you know, you guys have to drive home eventually, you know. Yeah. So I mean it's at least five to six hours more an episode to do it in person than it is to just hop on a Sunday morning and yeah, in front of the computer for you know, two hours. You want to know something too, like how professional we are now? We have not had one of those types of episodes since then. We had one and we were done. We have

4:00 an episode that has not seen the light of day. Will it never will? Maybe? I uh, I want to believe. I really do want to believe that it's our our ethic that stopped that from happening, But it's most likely just because it's stream yard. I was. I was pretty toasted on the finale though. The finale Okay, yeah, that is right, but that's a celebration. It was. I was celebrating like crazy. Yeah.

4:40 Somebody came up to me and said like, hey, you never put the other parts of the live finale out, and I'm like, what live finale? And then you know, it came back to me and I'm like, oh, ship, I didn't, So I'm gonna have to stick that up there. It was divided into like three parts because it was like four hours long. I did part one and then we went on our month long hiatus and I completely oh so like the whole thing where there's a like eight people in the thing never made it to the light of day. No, I'm a bad listener. I didn't even notice. Yeah, it's like, if you go to the YouTube, you can you can go to the live shit, and you can click on it and you can watch the rest of that. But okay, so yeah, I thought I saw that. I watched the live or at least part of it. Yeah, I watched the live. Oh shit, I just I forgot to put out the other like parts to it. I think I need to get subscribe to our channel so I get no vacations. Dude, Oh man, if you subscribe, is that going to put us over the edge? Tyler? Are you the two thousand subscriber? Are we even at that right now? Last time, I luck, I don't know. Oh yeah, uh one yeah, one point?

6:13 Wow, we hit it. Did you just script subscribe? Ah? You really put me on the spot here. You kind of destroyed my joke. I was already subscribed, so now you now the viewers say, I'm a liar. Now I'm paying as a liar. Now you could have just keep running with it. I should have, but I felt like that would be that would be cap Yep. No, we're getting with the times. No, no, we're not. Yeah, so we're sitting at one point nine to nine k, like we're almost a two thousand subs. There's gotta be some motherfucker listening to this. That's like, I'll go fucking subscribe.

7:01 I'll put them in two thousand. I'll be a number two thousand. We needed somebody needs to jump on there. One of you listeners that's not subscribed, or one of you listeners that are listening on one of the other platforms, jump over the YouTube and help us out. Just subscribe. It's all odd numbers, and I can't stand the fact that it's all odd numbers, you know, And it's funny, like it seems like podcasting doesn't translate very well to YouTube. No, it doesn't get the what do you call it? Listen, Joe Rogan, we got to get over there and and be like top ten things that you don't want to say on your podcast. Oh yeah, and then then people because they pour in poor in for that.

7:48 Yeah yeah, yeah. We gotta be a list channel. We got a list and react. So what we gotta do is we got to play a video that you can barely see because of our big dumb faces in a way. Yeah, I hate that, I really do. I hate that. Like if I'm watching something, if I'm flipping through reels or shorts or something, and all of a sudden, I see like a video I'm interested in, but somebody's like cropped out dumb face right in front of it. Like, I don't need to see your facial expressions. If I want to know what somebody's facial reaction is, I'll look into the mirror while I'm watching it. Yeah, you know, because I don't care what you think about it. I don't why do you? And that's just lazy work. You know, that's creating content by just going over somebody else's work. I feel like somebody like it's a thing, like people like it because, oh sure, there's so many react channels. I don't know how. I don't know how many of the like people that are into like hip hop and rap that don't listen to metal music, those are like huge, dude, Okay, so let's talk about that for a second. All right. I've seen one the other day that it was so and so reacts and it's the first time they ever heard queen you lying, motherfucker. That doesn't happen. It's twenty twenty four. You've heard Queen. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you can't not hear them at this point, right, Yeah, someone says

9:20 Queen, there's like four riffs that just instantly go through my head. And plus like that's the same thing with the like movies, Like, dude, Queen has been in movies. There was a movie about Queen. Well, yeah, that. But they've used their music throughout like cinema. Yeah, And they've been on every rocks of any kind ever. They've been on current rock stations, classic rock stations, old these rock stations. You know, they've been all over the background of YouTube, all over the background of you know, movies and TV shows. You know, they're every fucking sporting event.

10:03 That's true. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like yeah, yeah, you don't don't tell me that you're reacting to the first time you've ever heard Queen that come off that ship. Yeah, Like if if you wanted to be like this is the first I've heard Strawberry alarm clock yeah, or gg Allen, you know, like, okay, I'll buy that fucking Queen and anybody, right, you write a song about this. But he wrote a song about his bicycle, right, who does who writes the song about their bicycle? I want to Bride my bike and frame Murky wanted to do a lot of stuff because he wanted to break free too. Yeah, yeah he was. I don't think he was a fan of the genres like he he wasn't really a fan of you know, this is what we have to do, right right, yeah, because I mean I Want to break Free is very different from Stone Cold Crazy, Yeah, like very different or another one bites the Dust dude, it was. I mean it's a disco song. Yeah, Killer Queen, Killer Queen, hell yeah the Queen.

11:24 Yeah yeah, so yeah, pick a different band to tell me you've never heard him before, even like the guys that react to the first time here in Metallica, Like unless you're like an embryo, I find that hard to believe. Yeah I was. I went to metal show. Oh yeah, tell us about this. We went to a metal show, uh, Friday night. It was. It was local metal show, all death metal bands, not deathcore, not metal core, just death metal bands. And they were all local and I'll be honest with you, it warmed. It warmed my heart. You know. It was very very cool and uh, we went to see my wife's best friend's son, Gauge. His band's called Blood Clot And you know, I want to take this. I want to take a second and say, anybody out there listening right now, say you're eighteen to thirty years old, are you a drummer? Do you like death metal?

12:31 This band needs a drummer bad. They went up there with a backing drum track on stage in front of a packed place, and they brought the goddamn place down with a drum track, right And I'm sitting there and I'll be honest with you when I when I I didn't know that until right before they went up because they backlined a couple of things up there, you know, some ambs, a little bit of a drum kid all this, and I kept making a comment, I'm like, Jesus Christ, are they making them haul every single one of these drum kids up and down the stage? You know? And they were telling me, They're like, oh, they don't have a drummer, and I'm like, they don't have a drummer, what how's this going to work? And they were like, well, they have a track where they programmed all their drums and then they played to it, and I'm like, oh boy, So I got a little bit of a bad, like gut feeling, like, oh now, how's this going to go? You know what I mean. And the boys came out on stage and they plugged in, they set up, they tuned, you know, and they had their little thing on them and they hit it, you know, and the sound guy got the drums sounding, you know, pretty good in the speakers, you know, and they just want two four boom and they're just in and I'm watching them and I'm thinking, Jesus, that's hunger. That's somebody who's hungry for it. And for those of you guys

14:03 out there that might not be musicians, if you're in a local scene and you're trying to jam, you're trying to go and do this, there is a difference between someone who has the drive and someone who does not. And I will say, going up there with a fucking drum backing track says a lot. Yeah, it says that I don't give a fuck about our stepbacks. We're going up here to throw down. And they fucking did well. Not only that, I mean think about the talent at that point. I mean, the drum machine's gonna be perfect every time. Yeah, you know, they never they never missed. I was watching them like we guys know how I am. I was watching them like a fucking hawk. I was watching their fingers, I was watching their hits. I was watching everything and every the guitar players, Gauge and the other boy. I didn't get to meet him. I didn't see him when when it was all done. But those two guys in the bassis, we're just on point. The new singer they just got he sounds like corpse grinder nice and I am not even kidding.

15:11 This kid nails it. He killed it, killed it. I got to talk to him for a minute, and I got to talk to Gauge himself for a minute, and Yeah, anybody gets a chance in this area to get out there and see blood Cloud play, you really should. If you want to see some boys that truly want it bad, and if you're a drummer and you're looking for a man that's not fucking around, please please reach out to the show here and I will put you in contact with them, because I want to see these guys with a drummer. I made the comment to Gauge and his singer when we were there. I said, boys, I'm going to start working on finding your drummer. I think I might have one lined up. I don't know. I'm going to talk to him hopefully this week. And I said, if you guys went up there that they had the crowd, the crowd was going ape shit for these guys, I said, if you've got this kind of reaction with a backing track, they're going to need ambulances to get people out of here when there's a drummer up there. It's awesome. Yeah, it was. It was really cool.

16:22 It warmed my heart. And the scene is very much alive, very much alive, and that that made me feel really good too. They had, uh it was like ten dollars at the door and people were just coming, just coming through the door, just coming through the door. Uh. Seeing the mosh pits go that was awesome. You know, these kids out there just throwing you know, throwing ship And then in true true metal form, a guy falls down. Five guys pick him up, yeah, and dust him off, getting back up again, and they're back in it. And I mashpit etiquette. Mash pit etiquette is a real thing. It is, and I'm glad to see that it's standing up because there for a while it was ever remained for herself knocking people down her ship. Yeah, and I'm glad to hear that there that's coming back. It was very cool, very very cool. I had to explain the mashped a little bit to my own kids because they've never been in one, you know, and they were like, that seems kind of crazy. You know, these guys are out there just beating the crap out of each other. You know, why do they want to hurt each other? And I was like, yeah, you got to understand it. You're a younger guy, you're growing up. You're in this group full of your your kindred spirits, and all of you are frustrated about something, something in life is not working for you. You got one place where there's loud ass music going and it's basically telling you it's okay

17:57 to let loose right now, go for it. Just turn it leaves, dude, let it out. And at the end, man, they're all patting each other on the packs, either hugging, they're they're laughing. It's it's a it's a beautiful thing to see, you know. Yeah, yeah, it could be scared to bystanders bystanders I don't understand. Yeah, the people that don't understand, I'll tell you almost too. It's like that's the only place where metal heads can actually feel like themselves too, because you think, like if you were if you grew up before us in you know, the the eighties, where you were in high school in the eighties, then you know, you had all kinds of people that were into metal music, and you know, it was it was a different scene, so it was really popular then. But like in our era and newer or younger, you know, it's diluted. Like you might be the one of five metal heads in your class or something, you know, or in your in your neighborhood, and you know, and then you go to one of these metal shows and there's thousands of you, thousands of like minded people, you know, some people even wearing the same shirt as you, and shit, you know, and it's like I'm home. I mean, that's how I always felt, you know, because I grew up out here in the country, and I was a very odd duck kind of where I was sitting being a metal head. You know. Luckily, luckily Dave moved in down the road, so I had that you know, yeah, but for the most part, like him and I were really the only metal heads in the area. Everybody

19:30 would listen to some Metallica on the radio or something, your bro metal stuff, but like him and I were the only ones that were jamming, like to Napalm record stuff, you know. And then you go to a show and you're like, there's more of us and they're all around here, Like where the fuck did all these people come from? You know? You see fifteen thousand people in black T shirts in August, you know. I mean when me and Tyler were meeting you guys at the Mastadon show and Gajira, we were walking through and we're like, yeah, I wonder where them guys are, and we made the joke. We're like, well, we'll just we'll just look for the bearded guys wearing black. And we were kind of laughing about it because we're like looking like we might need to narrow this down a little bit, right, I know, I was saying, though, man, is is that we really do? Like if all of us go to a metal show, we do we just like vanish into the crowd, like you just can't tell who's who anymore. Yeah, you become the gray Man. Yeah, I was. I was really impressed that you met up with Bill, like he found you guys before me. I thought that was really cool. That ship was hilarious. But I did give a very good description. Yeah, Bill, And for the listeners, the Bill is a significant person for for Rector. Yeah, he's he's he's our artist. Yeah, so he's done all the art for the Rector stuff. But yeah, what did I say? He was like a tall GAMBLI yeah, yeah,

21:06 he came right up to us. Yeah, he's like, you guys, you must be Danny and Tyler. Me and Tyler like, yes, we must be. Yeah. I thought it was pretty funny when our buddy Derek came running through and he's like, fucking Wrector. Oh, oh my god, dude, this DUDEO. Yeah. I actually thought i'd run into him Friday night, but I didn't. I really I thought he would be there. But yeah, I know he gets that. He gets out there. Man, he supports, but I uh, he's big. He can't he can't beat all of them. I guess, you know, right, Or he was probably there and I just didn't see him because of the blending into the you know, right, long hair and black clothes. Yeah. Yeah, but I wanted to make sure I said something about that on this episode because it was it was really fucking cool. And uh I told Gage, I was like, I'm so fucking proud of you, holy shit, Like I can't I can't say it enough. Yeah, dude, coming from my background, you know, Like I'm sitting there watching him and I'm like, I know exactly what he feels right now. Yeah, you know, And he was killing it, man, he was fucking killing it. And he was he's fast as shit, like he got fast. And I don't know, man, I've I've seen a lot of the I've seen a lot of the scene. Yeah, I saw a lot of it. I saw enough of it to give me a bad taste in my mouth. But to see if your death metal show just pop up like that and see the amount of

22:37 support that came out for that show, awesome. Yeah, you guys out there that came to that show and we're playing in that show. Keep doing what you're doing. Man, You're the only fucking hope. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, And I mean it's there is an underground scene that's still hanging on. Yeah, I sent you guys that video. Those were kids from the same high school as my kid, you know, and they're American hardcore punk. And I'm watching this and it's you know, it's a two piece band, no bass player, just a guy playing guitar and singing and a drummer. And I'm like, all right, there's like three people right at the front of the stage, like these guys are playing like there's a thousand people here. And then the camera pans and there's like sixty kids in this fucking underground club. Yeah, and I'm like, what the hell. That's what it was like Friday night. It was like so awesome, man.

23:33 I know that that second room at the Revival House. I know that they had to be a capacity at least for a while, you know, because it was now the second room. Is that the smaller one, Yes, okay, that's the one that's upstairs upstack. Yeah, Okay, that's pretty cool man. My only regret was I didn't really know what to expect, you know, going to it. I didn't know what it was going to be. I really feel like I should have have like aggravated you guys to be there to come to it. I should have. I regret that I should have sat there and aggravated, you like, come on, dude, come down, you know what I mean. I just didn't know what to expect, And when I got there, I was like, okay, all right, So I was like, next time, I'm gonna try to talk everybody into going because it was it was really it was worth the ten bucks at the door. Man. It was fun. That's awesome. Yeah.

24:22 It may sounded good, all of them, all the bands that play it sounded fucking great. They sounded they were doing it. Man. Yeah, I recognized that there was a there was one from Monster Piece. Uh, I can't remember the name of them. Yeah. The bass player has like a it looks like a Fender Jaguar bass but it's a six string. Well, oh, blood something yeah, blood Gate, blood Gate. Yeah. I think they might have changed their name because I don't know. I didn't see blood Gate on the bill I saw. I think they called themselves Dissected Remains at this bill. Okay, that's pretty cool. I mean they might have had a lineup change or something. Maybe they you know, yeah, maybe the bass player switch bands or something. Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Yeah, that's that's probably likely. Yeah, they sounded great, they were they killing it. They had like a punk metal kind of feel to him. Was there a very large bald drummer. No, No, he's like then the bass player switch bands. Okay, yeah, because that's they had the Was it like, was it Napalm Deaf that had the really large bald drummer that like moved way too fast for his appearance? I think so, yeah, Yeah, that's who reminded me of. That's what he played. He was the bass player that was kind of large and what

25:52 Okay, then I'm thinking a different band then, because he had the hair like the guy what the hecks? That one? Uh the one Grudge band had that big like hair. It might be it might be the Muse drummer that I'm thinking of. It might be them, because one of them, the drummer was just he was a very large man and he bawled and he was one of those drummers where like his shoulders wouldn't move, but his forums would and it was like flying through the toms. You know. It seems like, uh yeah, I'm looking looking it up here, it looks like Cradle of Filth drummer Nick Nicholas Barker. Did he retire? This is a big dude, and it looks like he had kidney failure. Oh that's no good. Yeah, no, it's them. Yeah. He was in Nicholas Barker. He was in Demu. Yeah also awesome. Yeah yeah. I I totally told uh. Gage said that when the time comes. Uh.

27:00 I was like, yeah, you guys. I was like, when we're when we're ready to do it. I was like, you need to stick rector and on one of these bills with you guys. And he's like he literally had no idea. He's like wait what. I'm like, hey man, we're putting together, we're working on it, we're trying to fine tune it. You know. It was like but I was like, I really feel like you boys will appreciate some of these riffs, you know. And he's like like, dude, I'm like yeah yeah. I was like, you just got to go easy, honest, you know, and help us load in and stuff, because you know, we're we're senior citizens. Yeah. That's the worst part now, you know. It was. I was in my twenties rolling in a full stack like mine and the other guitar players, and then you know, a Nambig four ten and then all that, you know, sixteen piece drum set a big deal, you know, but now it's like, yeah's heavy. Cat's best friend Vicky. She goes that need doesn't make you feel old. I'm like, yes it does. And she's like she's like, yeah, that was you. That was what you did, you know, And I was like yeah, I was like fucking I was a. Gage's sister was there, and she's like, why do you feel old? You're not old all this. I'm like, well, you see all that stuff that they got up on stage there. She's like yeah, I'm like, see that's a young man's game. That's a younger man's game right there. Loading loading all that stuff in is where that would be right about where. I'm like, I fucking I feel it. Yeah,

28:33 yeah, that's that's where. And if you're like hosting the show and you're bringing the PA, that's of course, Oh yeah, that's what I'm looking at in this room right here, it's like you might as well tell me I got to sell my house and move, you know, if I've got to empty this room, it's the you know at that point, you know what I mean, go to do the show and you just never come back. I just live. I live here. Now, guys, I'll just buy new ship haven't delivered to the house. You to hire a local moving company just to put your ship in and out of your house into the show. Yeah, it's like I'll pay you an extra if you just you just stay there or come back later and then pick the ship up. Yeah.

29:18 I had a questionable ethic back then when it came to the live thing too. Like I loved playing live, I just hated the load in and load out. Yeah, so you would know as I went, man, my my setups got more and more simple, you know, and I just I started cutting out stuff and I'm you know, okay. So the other thing too, is like you start realizing why some of the older cats that would play like the Blue shows would show up with a Fender twin combo. Yeah did you do that? I just did. Yeah did he freeze? I don't know. It sure looks like froze, but yeah, you know, it's like you understand why those guys are like because it was easier.

30:07 Yeah, a super super light Fender stratocaster one single chord and a one twelve combo, and they're like, make the PA do the work. They're way ahead of the fucking yeah. Yeah, you know, because yeah, man, it was a good time. I wish very happy. I wish I would knew ahead of time. Man, I would have loved to go to a show that wasn't you know, yeah, a national act. I haven't been to. I haven't been to a show in a while. I know one of the one of the guests write he wrote a letter onto the show is also a musician, and he's been after me about trying to get on and uh come to a show. And it's like every time he plans a show, is something has happened. Then there's amazing when I can't go, Wow, he's even froze coming back in. Is this feels weird having me at the top there he is? You seem shorter now, but never mind w B. Yeah yeah now that was a good time man, I had I had a blast. I'm really proud of of Gage and seeing his band play again. Drummers out there, I know, I know you're out there.

31:25 I know you want to join a band that that they're not fucking around, They're they're ready. You need to you need to get a hold of me. You need to. You know you know the email address, email the show leave with comment something like that, let me know and I'll put you in touch. Yeah, hopefully you can play fast because these guys are fucking fast. Yeah, it was pretty fucking awesome. That would be interesting to have us up there as a polar opposite band because we don't play fast. Yeah, it would, uh, I know. Okay, So during all the fast stuff at the show that it was like the the marsh pitt would go go wild, you know, but the breakdown stuff when it would go halftime, people went nuts and it was it was awesome. I was I was enjoying. That's awesome, man. Yeah, fucking yeah. One of these days we'll have to see what it looks like from the stage.

32:22 Yeah. It's been a while, Yeah for sure. So I wanted to tell you guys about something that happened to me. I was removed from another bigfoot group on Facebook. I can't remember the name of the group now because once it came out, I was like, yeah, way, it must have been a glitch. Yeah it was. I feel like it was a misunderstanding because somebody had said something along the lines of like how many how many people believe in Bigfoot? And have you ever seen one? And then there was like three hundred comments on it, right, every and everybody's seen one.

33:08 And I was like, I commented and I was like, wow, look at look at all these people that spotted him. I was like, it's guess he's not that rare after all, because I mean, everybody's seen him. Right. It was like twenty minutes later I saw that I was removed from the group. I'm like, oh, really, Like, come on, man, It's like I just pointed out an observation. It's not like I even got on there and said anything, you know, hateful towards the community. I just said, like, there's three hundred people commenting here and they've all seen him, so he can't be that rare, right, fucking weird? Yeah, right, it's kind of one of those oxen.

34:00 That's the thing about those big Foot groups is there's thousands of members and everybody's seen him. Yeah, nobody's got a picture. Though. It's tough tough break there, right, He's just that good at dodging that ship. Yeah. I feel like we've gotten into this so uh, this topic so many times. I feel like this is like, like the basis of the show was the Big Guy, but after spending multiple years listening at this like it has like we all came into this on the fence, like we had real like gout like poor beliefs that like it could happen, It could happen.

34:52 I've seen, We've seen stranger shit out there. But now it's starting to say, is this a true like true like yeah, the only way it could be now to me personally, this is how I feel over the years, I'm certain to feel over the years is that it has to be something more like I guess you would say spiritual. And I don't know if I believe in that that much. Yeah, I don't know. To me, like I think about like all the ship the sh there is to me, it's like, you know, think about all the ship you see out of the corner of your eye that isn't there. You know, it will be psychological. You're out in the woods, there's nothing around you for miles, you know. Yeah, And let's face it, anybody that's actually spend any time in the woods knows that like even the smallest creature can sound like a horse. Yeah, squirrels down, Yeah they sound like a stampede coming through.

35:55 Yeah, squirrels sound huge, you know, deer running sound like much larger animals. Yeah, even like straight cats if they're in a leaf bed, you know, are gonna sound bigger, you know. I mean, it's just I don't know. It's people are gonna believe what they want to believe. People are gonna say what they've done. Yeah, and if you try to contradict whatever they're saying with any questioning, then they get upset. And as soon as they get upset, I immediately know that this is an emotional response, yeah, not so much a factual response. Yeah, because you start going in from the from the realm of probability into the realm of possibility. Yeah, and probability very very low possibility. Anything's fucking possible.

36:49 But is it probable? Yeah? Can the world produce an upright ape like that? Probably it probably can. Is it possible to have an ecosystem that can sustain a population of that big of an ape, It's doubtful. Yeah. There isn't even that many gorillas in the wild, and that's a big ape. That's a valid point. What is like the silberback population worldwide? I couldn't tell you. Often I'm looking it up because you know, that's what I do. Yeah, I know it can't be crazy, but I'm sure it's reasonable within the amount of calories out there, you know what I mean. And then too, you know, we had the poaching thing for a while with the silver back, so I'm sure that's still going on.

37:44 You're looking at thirteen or three hundred and sixteen thousand Western gorillas and five thousand Eastern gorillas. Yeah, it's not a in the grand scheme of things, It's not a terrible lot, right, considering that you I don't know how to say this without being offensive to those communities, but you're trying to sell the fact. You're trying to sell it as a fact that there's basically millions of these things. And it's even worse when you talk about mountain grillas, which would be the big serback, the one that nobody believed existed. There's a thousand of them, and four hundred and sixty of them live in one particular national park in Uganda. Yeah, so you know, and we have pictures of them, Yeah, we have them. People didn't believe in them for eighty years and they finally got pictures and now it's that it was a thing. Yeah. Yeah, they were like this thing that don't that doesn't exist, there's no way. And then it's like, well, we got all these we got this film of them, we got this picture of them, and it's clear as day. Yeah, so it's it's one of them things. I you know, I'm not trying to hijack this into a into a big Foot episode by any means. I feel like the subject it's got enough attention and it's it is a frustrating topic for me now because I did.

39:07 I went into the topic when we started this very even keel, very like, all right, let's let's find some patterns. I found one weird pattern over a course of like twelve years, and often the most disappointing explanation will be what's going on? And the thing that got me was is that there was a giant fact that was left out of my explanation, that wasn't done intentionally. But when I went back and I went over the information again, it went like this, I'm reading these patterns. I'm reading these sightings on a public website that anybody can submit a siding too. So anyone go in there and say, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a siting similar to this one, I'm going to create one, and then a guy like me comes along and I put together that, Well, this one is a reoccurring this one happens every so often. Maybe, But the most probable explanation is that someone put those in because the submission itself is not date stamped.

40:25 They manually enter in the date that they alleged that this happened, and they don't vet this at all. They don't vet it, Yeah, because there's not there. Like I'm not saying like that organization doesn't have like the means to have somebody go out and investigate right off that off the rip. Yeah, just just to make sure that they're telling the truth. And like you said, if it was manually put in, this could be an old story that was passed down from people. So how could you actually makes recording the same story but someone had told him a different time period. Yeah, I'm not saying it's completely nefarious. I'm just saying that it's Yeah, the human element is added to it, it's it starts to get a little wobbly, and without that, there's no control factor to that experiment, so it's it's void. I always I always put it at this is like telephone that game that you played in school. That's how I always like, somebody tells one story and then it goes like, all I saw Bigfoot, and then next you know, it goes all around. Bigfoot's flying flying saucers through the center of the world. That's how we got to hear like, well that's where they live. Yeah, in the center of the earth. Silly, silly

41:55 goose. Of course, Bigfoot's coming out of the middle of the planet wherever where a bunch of stuff lives. Yeah, you know what I mean. I don't know, man, I don't know that. That whole thing. That whole thing. And then when they remove you from a group because you have a polar opposite, you know, approach, And my whole thing was like not really like to point it out and just to put them on the spot. It was more of a like perspective thing, like, hey man, there's thousands of you trying to tell me this is a rare like once in a lifetime sighting, and there's thousands of you that seen it allegedly, right, So it can't be both. Yeah, and you think you take take just a law of averages of one thousand to one odds that means that nine and ninety nine of those people are lying through their fucking teeth. If you apply that, yeah again, they're gonna twist us around and be like you call those fucking liars. No, I'm not. The odds are.

43:02 Maybe they're not lying. They they experienced something that was unexplained to them and it has nothing to do with Bigfoot, even if they were telling the truth of their experience, but they just it was something totally different. It's just like that whole the term. I can't remember who we were talking to, but they said him and his boy went out and his boy ran back to the truck because he heard a screech out. Now, it was the first time you ever heard heard that before. That was on location, Mike, and it was and his dad and he was so yeah, like that, like that's the type Like, that's the type of scenario. Like if you're not used to this, you're going when you're when you're in the unknown, especially in the dark and shit, your mind is going to race and go to the like the worst assumption because now you're in uh, fight or flight, and most people will take flight. Yeah, you know you just said that earlier, you said Tyler that you'd almost be willing to lean towards a spiritual type thing of you know. And that's like, if anybody listens to show that's like the one topic that I usually don't I don't really weigh in on, is that whole thing that the afterlife, spiritual stuff, all that stuff. In my core belief is that this is a science that we don't

44:36 understand yet. I don't really think it's metaphysical, you know what I mean. I feel like there's a science there to this that if there's a such thing as as a persisting human consciousness, which there there have been interesting things that have happened with that subject. I believe that it's a natural part of of science and physics, you know, because at this point in physics, we know that there's there's fourth dimensions, fifth dimensions, sixth dimensions, you know, and we even have probabilities and and equations that can they can prove these now, which to me, that's the math. That's that's the that's showing your work, you know what I mean, Like, that's that's not just saying like, oh, dude, there's a portal in the middle of the Earth, and that's where Bigfoot comes out of with this UFO. No, that's we have this math. We have this math, and we have a missing spot here in the middle, and the universe doesn't usually do that.

45:38 So we start working out the math, how how does this fit this other dimension in here, and even getting you know, getting on and listening to some of the big you know, there's some of the famous scientists out there, you know, sit there and talk about, uh, well, fourth dimensional beings could technically interact with everything here, but we don't have the organs, We don't have the sensory organs to perceive fourth dimensional So it's not like it's not like a make believe thing. It's just that we're living firmly in the third dimensional world. So we've evolved to be in the third dimensional world. It's not that it's not there, it's that we're just not the right model to see it, to experience it. If seeing it is even how you perceive it, we don't even know or all we know, our brains don't know how to think outside of the third dimensional world, you know, so they have to rely on mathematics. And then when it comes to the spiritual, you know, the spiritual side. I look at it like this, Hey, we got two big things here. We have how to perceive the fourth dimension and up and we have all this paranormal stuff and my brain pairs. Don't those kind of follow the same, you know rules.

47:06 You can't really understand it, you can't really see it, blah blah blah blah blah. You know. So for me, if you said, like, well, maybe the big foot thing is that