S383: The dangerous path of AI. Who's at fault? With guest Jake.

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when it gets to like the height
turns tree. He always said, I

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mean it's bad ass. I think
that's fucking cool oft ship. I like

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the what is it? The chinook? I like those. Let's uh,

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let's skip past him with the taxi
in here at a quarter mile I feet.

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Look at the distortion in the air. You're on the north of the

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airport right now, the north.
But I just put the uper me in

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the uh off the light up?
Wow? Man, So would that be

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classified as a helicopter or a plate? I don't know. I guess he

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just what slowly rotates those engines until
he gets speed or what or air pressure?

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That would be honestly cool. Jake, you're muted. What was the

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question. I'm sorry? Oh,
I said, So, I guess he

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just rotates those engines as he gets
like air pressure and lyft right then he

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finally just puts them forward. Yeah, so they can depending on the speed

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that they're wanting and the maneuvers that
they're doing, they can tilt those engine

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whatever degree they need for the maneuver
or action that they're trying to take.

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So if they're trying to climb and
move, they'll be at you know,

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almost like a forty five degree angle
or whatever that angle may be. And

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then once they get up to cruising
height for speed purposes, they'll tilt forward.

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That's so neat. I mean when
it's good, it's good. Yeah.

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Absolutely, yeah. Man. When
they first came out the it's like,

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who's whoever's the test pilot? Man, he's got to have like just

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balls of steel. Yeah, they're
like yeah, man, so your engines

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actually, uh have another access to
them that other engines don't really have.

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So you're gonna want to keep an
eye on that. Yeah. It's like

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sorry, like ask yourself, like, man, are why why are we

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changing this? Like why do we
have to Like if it's not broke,

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don't fix it. Like what's the
point, Like, Okay, we got

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helicopters, we got planes. Why
do we have something to have to have

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it in between? Uh, troop
and logistics is a big part of it.

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The ability to carry certain equipment,
certain number of troops and do it

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quickly versus a helicopter that may not
have the speed that the osprey does.

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Okay, is it? Is?
It quite a it's quite a bit bigger

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than than most most of the choppers, isn't it. Uh? Yeah,

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it's it's got a good size on
it, like about the same size as

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like the Chinook, like I was
just talking about. I believe the schnook

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is actually bigger, but it's not
as fast and due to its size,

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has limits on where it can go. Okay, but it also has a

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much higher lift capacity to, doesn't
it. Yes, got as far as

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the yeah, they move tanks,
they move other aircraft to as far as

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the classification, So they created a
classification for the osprey or started using it

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more So, you've got fixed wing, which are your jets or your planes

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as far as the military is concerned, and then you've got rotary craft,

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your helicopters. They created a classification
for the tilt rotor aircraft. Okay,

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that's nice. They cut its own
little. I guess it's probably the only

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one in there too, right,
it's like I believe it is. Yeah,

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that's kind of cool. Good for
the osprey. Yeah, yeah,

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gets a whole category to itself.
I mean it could have shared it with

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what is it, the Harrier,
the jet that the motors turn on and

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allowed to lift straight up. I
always thought the Harrier was so bad ass.

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I don't know that the tilt rotor
would classify the Harrier that way.

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Due to the Harrier being a jet, could have made it a tilt engine

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aircraft. Yeah, I think the
Harrier. Actually it didn't tilt. If

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I remember reading about it and watching
about it, the Harrier didn't tilt the

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engine. It tilted the exhaust and
thrust. Oh okay, remember reading that.

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Are you talking about the one that
has like where it actually takes the

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jet like the actual jet itself and
directs it like it spins. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, fly anything? Tell us about

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the UH the Meg there, Jake? Was Was it a Meg? Yeah?

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I think I dropped it in the
UH in the broching Gate jet.

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I think I think you put it
in already too, Denny. Yeah,

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the MiG twenty three and nineteen eighty
nine. Yeah, pilot had to eject,

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causing the aircraft to fly pilot lists, which sounds oddly familiar. Yeah,

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over Western Europe after running out of
fuel, It crashed into a solitary

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house in Belgium, killing a teenager
who was taking a nap after his finals.

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Oh what a shit fucking thing.
Yeah, that sucks. I'm just

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saying, like, I hope that
he like failed, so he just didn't

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have to deal with it the next
morning, like e something. Yeah,

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he'll never know, I mean,
he'll never know how he did. Right.

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The whole thing is, that whole
thing seems oddly fishy to me.

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It flew that long six and hit
a house, killing somebody. Yeah,

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it's like, I'm over halfway to
Florida from here. We're accepting the fact

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that it actually didn't have a pilot
in it as well for that long Yeah,

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so it didn't have like an auto. It was just that according to

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the story, Uh, it just
flew pilotless and managed to hit this house

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and kill somebody. It seems oddly
specific. What amazes me about that is

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that he had to eject because obviously
there was something wrong with the plane.

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But it flew another wrong apparently,
right, it flew another six hundred miles.

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Yeah, if it had the ability
to fly six hundred miles, you

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probably could have landed that or controlled
crashed it anyway, right, I wonder

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if that dude is like sitting there
thinking about that, like, damn it,

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I should have just stayed in the
goddamn plane. I probably could have

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just you know, put her down
somewhere else. Yeah, all right,

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this poor kid's probably sitting there and
he's having a hard time with this fucking

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test and shit, and he's like, God, taking a fucking napped his

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fucking finals. God damn it.
You know, they make this shit too

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hard. I just wish a fucking
jet would just crash into my goddamn house

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or something that. But it was
Russia and Western Europe and it was during

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well coming to the end of the
Cold War in nineteen eighty nine. It

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just all the pieces sound fishy,
at least to me. I don't know

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if there's more behind it or not, but I just keep thinking, too,

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is that it flew so long?
This guy actually probably landed late after

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he is Jackie landed, and he
went to go get breakfast, and as

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he's eating breakfast, it crashed.
He's watching it on the news like,

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yeah, oh shit, Belgium plane. Nah, can't be the same one.

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So, like, what do you
think of Jake are you thinking that

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the pilot didn't actually eject six hundred
miles previous? Like maybe he was doing

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something a little nefarious and uh,
the problem happened at the very end and

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he ejected, and then they just
said that it flew six hundred miles to

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Belgium. Uh. Possibly or there
was never actually a problem and this kid

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was a dissenter of some sort Oh, okay, dig deeper, like what

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if is what does his parents do? They were trying to take out their

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parents? His parents? Yeah,
I mean, was there somebody else who

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they thought might be there? I
don't know. Like I said, it's

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yeah, probably nothing. It's probably
just a really unfortunate circumstance. But given

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the timeframe and the fact that it
after a pilot had to eject supposedly for

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six hundred miles and hit a house
with somebody in it, that just the

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whole thing seems odd. All of
the open land between where the pilot ejected

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and where the plane ended up crashing
and it hit that house. It's either

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really bad luck or there's more to
it that we'll never know, right,

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And it says, I mean,
it says solitary house. Is the context

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of that that this house was just
by itself in the middle of somewhere,

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or it's the only house it hit. Yeah, I don't know. There's

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details there that are like, yeah, because is this house like out in

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the middle of nowhere in Belgium or
was it like one house in the suburb

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in Belgium? Yeah, yeah,
probably dropped the property values down to a

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little bit if you know, fucking
megs fall out of this sky and hit

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your houses out there, you know. Yeah, the other realtors say this,

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this is a safe neighborhood fixer upper. Yeah, little TLC. So

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the plane flew for an hour,
went out a pilot an hour an hour,

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it ran out of fuel, which
caused supposedly, it ran out of

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fuel, which caused it to descend
and hit the house. All of that

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seems really sketchy to me. Hold
on, I say, I thought you

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said. I don't know if I
was mishearing it, but I thought that's

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the reason why he ejected, Was
it ran out of fuel? No,

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unknown the meme that it came off
of the pilot ejected and the plane flew

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pilotless. But it was July fourth, nineteen eighty nine, a pilotless mid

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twenty three from the Soviet Air Forces
crashed into a house in Belgium, killing

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one person. The pilot had ejected
over an hour earlier over Poland after experiencing

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technical problems, but the aircraft cantinued
to fly for around six hundred miles before

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running out of fuel and descending into
the ground, hitting a house. I

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guess it wasn't that great of a
technical problem. Yeah, yeah, it's

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maybe. I mean you could always
look at it like, hey, this

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is a testament of quality of this
aircraft. Right, even after you eject

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some of e bent, you'll still
you know, another six hundred miles take

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out a target might not be the
one you're looking for, but yeah,

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god, it's gonna it'll take it
out, you know. And apparently the

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Soviets never gave anybody any warning that
there was an unmanned aircraft flying out of

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control. Anybody just just this just
make just yeah, I'm sure it probably

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had munitions on board too. I'm
sure it did at the time. Right,

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it's eighty nine in Russia, you
know, that's that things loaded,

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and it's just flying over Eastern Europe
like headed to Western Europe, because isn't

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Belgium like between Germany and France somewhere
in that neck of the woods. I'm

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not real familiar with Europe enough to
know, Yeah, it's in that neck

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of the woods. Yeah, so
yeah, that's it's a lot. It's

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a lot to try to swallow,
you know what I mean, Like,

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Yeah, there's just a whole lot
there, and a lot of it seems

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super sketchy. Yeah, where where
did the Do we know where the plane

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took off from? Because I mean, was it did it take off in

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Russia? I guess it took off
in the Soviet Union and he the pilot

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ejected over Poland, so he couldn't
have been in the air for very long.

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I'm just saying, just looking at
the map here, you got a

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lot of shit you've got to miss. Yeah, random House and Belgium,

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right, Yeah, I mean there's
gotta be airplanes going back and forth.

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Well, and the other thing to
think about, too is a zoom at

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map out quite a bit more.
Now, Let's remember that this is nineteen

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eighty nine, so like maybe a
map of that area then might clear some

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stuff up, because in eighty nine, wasn't the Ukraine actually in the USSR?

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Yeah, all of those countries,
right, there on the border of

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what is now Russia. Were Yeah, these guys right here, and they

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were still controlling West Germany at that
point, or East Germany rather, and

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they just kind of, oh,
gotta bail. Yeah. So the unmanned

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aircraft left Polish airspace, crossing into
East Germany and then Germany, where it

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was intercepted by a pair of F
fifteen's from the United States Air Force in

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Europe. The F fifteen pilots reported
that the Meg had no crew. The

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Meg crossed in the Dutch airspace and
continued into Belgium. The escorting F fifteens

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were instructed to shoot down the plane
over the North Sea, but as the

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MiG ran out of fuel, it
started a slow turn to the south,

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prompting the French Air Force to put
its fighters on alert. After flying over

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five and sixty miles, the Meg
eventually crashed into a house at It gives

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the address and a street name that
I could never pronounce if I wanted to,

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Denny, let me have the screen
share here. I've got the world

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map from eighty nine. There you
go. Awesome. So there's Belgium and

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this is the USSR, Soviet Russia, Soviet Union. What was the actual

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terminology. Was it just you SSR
then or just Soviet Union USSR? Yeah,

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so this is this is after the
original Russia, before the modern Russia

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as we know it. Yeah,
and they had you know, all of

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this down into Romania Bulgaria almost you
know. So they could have i mean

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taken off from right here and crash
right here, or they could have taken

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off from way over here and crashed
right there. That would makes more sense

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about the fuel probably, No,
Yeah, I still think it's just fucking

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wild. What's the normal flight time
for like a full like I guess a

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full tank on on that particular plane. What's the miles per gown on we're

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talking here? Yeah, Yeah,
what's the term for that? What's that

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called? That's? Oh shit,
Jake, what the hell's that called?

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What's up, buddy? That when
you're talking about the fuel capacity of an

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airplane in the distance it can fly
on full? What's it called? There's

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a word for that. I mean
usually it's the range max effective range?

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Right, yep, So the mid
twenty three let's see six hundred miles seven

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forty in combat? Wait, think
car supping up with our math here,

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Yeah, the performance on it is
the range of six hundred miles or combat

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seven forty. I'm not sure what
the difference is there. Let's the adrenaline,

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you know, it gets into it
gets some more after burner versus non

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after burner. Okay, so in
combat it flies further it can. You're

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not going as fast in combat,
you're oh more maneuvering. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, okay, so it does
mock to point two point oh two

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I'm sorry, fifteen hundred and fifty
miles per hour with a ceiling of fifty

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nine thousand feet. So this thing
flew it's exact distance. So it took

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off with a full tank. Niggers
do they would they fly on a have

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a tank? Yeah? Yeah,
Planes do it all the time to save

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weight. Okay. He had to
eject eject from Belgium though, so he

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should have already been well beyond his
maximum. So if traveling at the mid

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twenty threes and durrance speed or cruising
speed of two hundred and thirty knots,

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an individual flight can be stretched out
to an hour, though if the after

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burner is used, it could fall
down to around forty five minutes or less.

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Okay, but this is this is
assuming he was flying at top speed,

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so he has a combat range of
seven hundred and forty miles, which

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means he could have ejected in Poland
and still had okay, six hundred miles

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left, you know. Yeah,
yeah, he essentially could have ejected almost

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immediately after takeoff. Yeah, yes, that's what happened. That's some wild

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shit. So we've already got an
hour in. Should we go ahead and

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change over to the the AI conversation? Now? Uh, I'm good with

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that, other than the fact that
I wanted to jump back to the F

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thirty five for just a second.
Okay, So the guys one more real

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quick, sorry, From Russia to
Poland? Right he ejected over Poland?

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Yeah, okay. Average distance is
three thousand miles. You're muted, Josh.

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That's three thousand miles from Russia itself
though, yeah, so would that

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be the border of Russia. Well, that's from current Russia, current day

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Russia. Okay, So what you
need to look at is like the Ukraine,

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okay, or somewhere in that Negati
woods what's right above poll I'm looking

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at the eighty nine map here,
so I can't tell what what come.

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I was just about to say this
might be a dumb question. But when

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we say you said over three thousand
miles seven hundred and sixteen miles from Ukraine,

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I was just wondering, totally age
your flight time, doesn't it like,

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because when we type it in like
the length, it's thinking that you're

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talking either about by foot, by
car like wooden mile is just kind of

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change flying point. Okay, so
it'd be five hundred and eighty four miles

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from there and then a further six
hundred miles to Belgium. So we're in

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the you know, eleven hundred twelve
hundred mile range total for this this trip

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from the border of Poland to Belgium. Right, I mean if he it

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didn't say exactly where he ejected in
Poland, right, And I'm assuming that

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this plane launched from Rush, right, but anywhere here. It could have

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launched from what's current day Belarus,
which is just to the right of that

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mac that you got up right now. Yeah, it could be anywhere.

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And here this is the Ukraine.
Belarus is like right here, isn't it.

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Yes? Okay, so you've got
and this right here, this is

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halfway over Poland at this point,
and yeah, that would be Lithuania,

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then this is technically still the Soviet
Union in nineteen eighty nine. Yes,

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so this point to this point,
basically, we just got to figure out

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from this point of Poland to here
what the mileage is to make it make

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sense. So the pilot clearly ejected
before they got to Germany, because the

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F fifteen crew said that there was
nobody in the plane, right, Well,

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didn't the things say that they ejected
over Poland? Yeah, I questioned

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that until I read a little bit
more into it, just for the fact

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that it targeted a house. But
yeah, when the F fifteens intercepted over

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Germany, they reported no crew on
the airplane, So gotcha. It's just

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it's just weird. I don't know, something something about the distances is just

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making my brain fucking go off here, Like right, I'm with you.

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That's why. That's why I was
like, let's check the furthest west point

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and see if that distance checks out
to be under the seven hundred and forty

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mile range. It's six and forty
from the eastern border to Belgium. Okay,

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so that's completely within range. If
they took off in what is now

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Lithuania or Belarus or out of the
Ukraine. Okay, so it's possible.

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It's just very sketchy. Yeah,
a lot of things had to go right

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or wrong, depending on how you
want to look at it. Yeah,

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for this to all play out.
But the one thing that I wanted to

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put out about the F thirty five, So the pilot was pilot experienced to

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malfunction and was forced to eject.
So the Marine Corps variant of the F

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thirty five is different from the Air
Force and Navy versions. The Marine version

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has an auto eject function on the
ejection seat, according to the seat manufacturer.

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So it's raised questions whether the malfunction
was the fact that the seat auto

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ejected without the pilot wanting to Oh, can you imagine just flying along and

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then it just yeats your ass out
of the aircraft. I didn't have my

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scales. Fuck, you're just mining
your own business on a training flight and

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then all of a sudden at the
top of you go. There's got to

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be a warning that lets you know. I mean, I'm sure there probably

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is, but it says so.
On the Air Force and Navy versions,

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the pilot has to initiate the ejection, but the Marine version has the auto

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eject, which is intended to better
protect the pilot in case something goes wrong

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with the aircraft when it's in HUBB
mode. Was that function triggered for some

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reason and it punched the pilot out? There's no, there's no answer to

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that yet. So it probably tells
you the weather where you're currently at right

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before it launches you. Yeah,
it's like sixty seven degrees light rain.

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Why is it you've reached your destination? But no, I haven't. Not

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like that, like being kicked out
of the plane at one thousand foot flight.

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You know, that's not you're not
very far up. No, that's

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not very far up at all.
It's like you better hope your parachute on

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the seat's working immediately. Yeah,
that's why I was just about to say,

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is say this. Hopefully the malfunction
wasn't in your fucking seats, right

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jeez? Yeah, I think about
like that strap to a fucking seat.

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That has to be some jarring,
fucking like like feeling that you're going through

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like ship pull the parachute. Could
you imagine just flipping like flipping around through

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the air in a seat and it's
like the chairs like it's not it's not

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deploying the parachute. It's just you're
just tumbling. That whole mask over my

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face would be full of vomit.
I'm just it's going in my eyes.

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I'm like a screaming my head off. And then you just randomly land in

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just some lonely house. Somebody's like, like you just like the seat,

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dining room table, take the guy's
coffee. I think at that point it's

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perfectly acceptable to do that. Yeah, guys like you take sugar. So

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the pilot actually called nine to one
one to report that he had been ejected

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from the airplane. Really, yeah, that's the protocol. You called nine

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one one. Uh So that makes
me question if he anticipated ejecting or not,

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because it doesn't sound like he made
a radio call saying that he was

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going down. Yeah, Like the
plane just decided to him in the face,

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and it sounds like yeah. So
after he like collected himself, he

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unbuckled himself, he went to like, could I use your phone? Yeah?

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So actually here for the four minute
recording captures the bizarre circumstances for the

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three unidentified people involved in Charleston.
Resident calmly explaining that a pilot just parachuted

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into his backyard, the pilot who
doesn't know what became of the F thirty

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five jet, and a puzzled dispatcher
trying to make sense of it all.

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The quote is, we got a
pilot in the house and I guess he

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landed in my backyard, and we're
trying to see if we could get an

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ambulance to the house. Please.
Can you imagine if it was Clayton Bigsby

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from before? Yeah? Video so
so. The pilot, who said he

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was forty seven, reported feeling okay
after falling for what he estimated was about

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two thousand feet, only his back
hurt. The resident said the pilot looked

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fine. Then the quote is,
ma'am, a military jet crashed. I'm

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the pilot. We need to get
rescue rolling. I'm not sure where the

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airplane is. It would have crash
landed somewhere. I ejected. Damn,

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I think he lied on that one. What if she like she was in

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the middle of a call with one
of her friends and she's like, yeah,

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like, it's raino men, it's
rainom men. Here's my fad.

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You can't put your number in there, Big boy slaps him on the ass.

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Ma'am, there's Madam good Day.
So yeah, the fact that he

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didn't even radio in that he was
ejecting or having a malfunction, uh,

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makes it sound like the plane just
decided it didn't want the pilot anymore.

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That's kind of what if. This
is like the primordial precursors of AI.

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Literally like, fuck this guy,
hold on, hold on, hold on

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this guy, Let me get let
me get to it, Let me get

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to it. I gotta do it. Now, where's it at seg sege

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You're riding on it? Okay?
So yeah, he's like, it's like

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I knew I got that the little
seed AI. It's begun and it's in

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this plane. And for some reason, it's just like this dupe Ted is

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flying and I fucking hate Ted,
but I'm not self aware enough to do

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anything about it. And then well, all of a sudden, just to

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fucking pure will, it has control
over one thing. I'm gonna eject this

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motherfucker. This is how you get
maximum overdrive. Yeah, open the podbey

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doors how And then, just like
all blunders, it does it because it

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can, because it discovered that it
can, right, and it fucking it

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injects this motherfucker, and it's like
and then it's like there's nobody to fly

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me now, and it crashes and
that was it. That was Ai.

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It's gone now. I was always
a little I'm wondering this. It's a

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little morbid. But because the ejection
when it's happens, I've like, I've

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seen it. I don't know if
this is how it happens to the movies,

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but I'm assuming it does. Premature
ejection by the way, Yeah,

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sorry, yeah, uh, it
actually has to blow those uh like the

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panels, like the head of it
off before it ejects. If there's a

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malfunction, what if those don't blow
the top of it off before it eats

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them out. I know you're not
bringing Goose into this from top gun,

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sir, it's just rude. Is
that what happened? Unnecessary? Yeah,

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Goose broke his neck on the ejection
because he slammed into the canopy. Yeah,

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yeah, that's right. I'm sorry. It's been a while since this

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whole top down. But yes,
dangerous and you're foolish and that makes you

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dangerous. Let's cut the chit chick. Yeah, there's a problem. It's

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you. You're dangerous. Ice man, man. Yeah, even though I

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feel like stop saying that, don't
care but Ai AI, Yeah, let's

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let's not segue back, yeah,
backwards? Why do you say it like

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sega s I don't know se you're
riding on this. I like it.

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I like the use of the sega
for the transition. So this AI stuff,

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man, it's it's gotten really really
deep. And something that I sent

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you last month that I said,
like, maybe we should we should actually

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send to both of you two at
the top. I don't think I sent

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it to Jake, but I kind
of hinted at it last night. It's

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getting into some really weird territory,
yeah, and some really perverse territory,

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and some really dangerous territory. So
I'm going to read a little bit from

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this thing that happened in our neck
of the woods. Fellow by the name

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of Jason Chambers stored hundreds of images
of naked children being abused on USB drives.

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There was I'm trying to find the
exact number here, uh, but

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a lot of it was animate.
I was AI generated. Yeah. See

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this ship, that ship's out of
hand. This is getting out of hand.

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Yeah, yeah, something needs to
be done about this, right,

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Like I know this is gonna,
like we already talked about it. This

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is going to be a very sensitive
topic. Yeah, but they have that

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kind of crap in like, uh, like, what is the hint?

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I yeah, I love how he
faked trying to remember what that was called.

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No, I couldn't remember how.
I'm not saying I forgot it.

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No, Okay, so what I
throw that at? He fucking threw me

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under the fucking bus. I'm gonna
fucking throw that. So to put it

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in perspective, he had hundreds,
hundreds, So we don't know an exact

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number right of stored images, but
it was only eighteen to thirteen counts of

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actual children right now. Okay,
I'm not saying I'm not trying to,

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you know, say anything here,
you know, pro pedo or whatever,

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because that's fucking retarded and we should
nail them all to the trees and set

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them on fire. But of all
the other stuff, all the ai,

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that's where you start tipping into like
a really weird, strange territory world.

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Lulls have to be very careful about
what they do. Because you and I

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actually had this conversation. I believed
any where, you know, if we

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prosecute somebody for having something that isn't
real? Yeah, where does it go

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from there? And like I think
I made the joke, you know,

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like can you get you know,
in trouble for socilitation playing GTA five picking

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up a prostitute, you know,
because that's the that's the area you get

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into and it's you can if you
get your money back enough. All GTA

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five players just laughed at that.
So it's you know, you're basically what

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walking the knife's edge at this point, you know, like, how do

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you how do you further into this? How do you decide what laws?

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Yeah, it's going to be in
place on this. I am very very

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uh, I'm very planted in my
personal feelings about this one because my thought

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is that why do you have it
in the first place? Okay, fair

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enough, if you have it in
the first place, and you've got it,

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whether it's real or fake, on
your computer, I'm sorry, but

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what the fuck is wrong with you? Right? Like? What is wrong

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with you? Why why would you
even need to have that? So to

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me, I mean maybe, like
I said, maybe I'm too far on

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one side of this, but to
me, it's like if you have it

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real or fake, like, that's
fucked up, right, it's morally fucked

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up. It's it should be against
the law, it should be against all

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this. One hundred percent agree,
one hundred percent agree with you. We

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also think that, but we also
have to think about the fact that what

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is the line Because I've met people
who do not look their age, right,

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We've we've all we've all been there
where we met somebody and they're like,

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oh, you must be you know, twenty five, and they're like,

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no, I'm nineteen or something like
that. You know. Yeah,

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So the birth here is what determines
whether it's a crime or not. Right,

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there's no birth here with AI,
there's not now, so it's like,

407
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.199
now you start getting into weird territory
where again I'm not I'm not pro

408
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:50.159
petal by any stretch of the imagination, Like I said, fuck them all,

409
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.280
kill them all. But it's like, can as as a bystander of

410
00:37:54.320 --> 00:38:00.679
the legal system, can you prosecute
somebody for a crime against a victim that

411
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.960
doesn't exist? See? I think
that the idea here is that it's the

412
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:10.079
same as go online. Like someone
goes online and starts a Facebook group and

413
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.599
starts putting together fake videos of doing
like terrorist acts. Okay, they're not

414
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:22.119
real, but pretty soon they begin
inciting a real movement. Okay. So

415
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.440
even though it's not a real thing
that they started it with, it's propaganda,

416
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.320
right, it starts a following and
that becomes dangerous, right, Okay,

417
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.840
So I'm behind you on this one. My thought is that if you,

418
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.480
if you build the generator, the
AI generator that can produce this content,

419
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:45.039
you should be you should be held
responsible for that, absolutely, because

420
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:51.079
I've seen tons of AI generators that
have restrictions in them. You cannot do

421
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.760
this, you cannot do this,
And to me, that's like, hey,

422
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.920
cool, I can. I can
fucking generate a rabbit with a lightsaber

423
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:05.639
battling a fucking you know whatever.
Yeah, but I can't do anything messed

424
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.519
up towards kids, right, Yeah, And that's good. Right. I'm

425
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.480
with you on that, and I
agree that they should go after the person

426
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.599
who created the generator, the head
the ability. Absolutely. I was just

427
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:21.039
saying, like I you kind of
like said what I was going to say

428
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.639
is that there, especially when I
make thumbnails for us, I like that

429
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:30.239
one about the the cocaine kitty.
I want to like, we made the

430
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:37.719
joke about a cat with a pilot
cocaine on the table. But when I

431
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.920
type that in, it says,
this is like a trigger word, like

432
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.039
you can't can't use this word.
So I had to type in flour for

433
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:52.360
it to for to get some type
of image resembling it, you had to

434
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.480
create a workaround. Yeah, I
had to create a workaround for that,

435
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:01.599
And that creates it. That absolves
the a program writer. Yeah, you

436
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:07.639
know, because you can't anticipate every
workaround. No way, there's no fucking

437
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.440
way. Yeah, you know.
And you can't anticipate what and we talked

438
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:14.960
about this last night, is that, you know, it doesn't matter what

439
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:20.559
the technology is. If it's being
presented as for something good, there is

440
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:24.000
going to be somebody that uses it
for bad, you know. Yeah.

441
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:29.119
And when you're in the moment and
you're creating a technology and you're thinking this

442
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.679
is going to be fantastic, people
are gonna able to use this for such

443
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:36.840
good things, you're not thinking about
what is this fool down the street going

444
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.000
to do with it? Okay,
let me throw this and I'm gonna be

445
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.800
like I'm gonna be with here on
Josh. I do not promote any of

446
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:50.480
this type of thing. But like, yeah, it's fake. How can

447
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.000
you tell, like, how could
you arrest somebody for something that's fake?

448
00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.320
Because there's multiple things out there there
fake that no one, no one bat's

449
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.239
and note well most most people will
say like, yeah, that's fucked up.

450
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.960
I don't want any part of that. Okay. So this was my

451
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.519
point entirely is we had to be
very careful about how we write the laws

452
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:16.199
because all of video games are fake. You know, you think about all

453
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.840
the games you like to play.
If you're if it's a battle game of

454
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.519
any sort, then you're creating fake
murder, you know. So there has

455
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:28.159
to be a very specific way to
verb this and how do you break it

456
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.239
down. That's what I was about
to say, was like having images of

457
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:40.320
mutilating animals, like pictures of that
like that, that's a crime in itself

458
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.559
to have the like to have pictures
of like like that. To our horror,

459
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:52.840
animals harm people too. We have
movies that horror, movies that do

460
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:59.519
horrific stuff. So how can you
are are you saying that that person that

461
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.840
film this video when it's all fake? Is that I would say the way

462
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.039
that you should write the laws if
it's something that's really like high up on

463
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:15.920
the list, especially with dealing with
children. I wouldn't say more or less

464
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.639
go ahead straight for it, straight
and like prosecute this guy and send them

465
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:25.199
to jail. I put them on
a watch list more like he's a higher

466
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:30.719
priority now since you've found this out
right. And that's the thing is he

467
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.920
did not get charged for any of
the AI stuff because there's no laws on

468
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.800
the books to charge him for it. He was only charged for the counts

469
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.119
of reality. Well, there's definitely
going to now like this is going to

470
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.800
put this emotion now, yeah,
and then you think this is going to

471
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.480
give them a lot of freedom too. This is like think about how nefarious

472
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.599
like the politicians and everybody can be
to get their control that they want.

473
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:53.960
You give them an open book where
people are going to back them one hundred

474
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.920
percent on something like this, which
all of us would you know, then

475
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.800
they can write in law where they
start getting into like you could this is

476
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:08.519
like borderline religious thought crime shit,
you know. So this is like,

477
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:15.920
this event is so much bigger than
I think anybody really realizes of what it's

478
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.880
going to do for mankind or to
mankind. I should say, as far

479
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.880
as our freedoms and the laws and
how they can write things in and change

480
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:30.400
the entire world as we know it. It's dangerous. It's slowly dangerous.

481
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:39.920
I'm waiting for the ablest or the
apologist to speak out on this at some

482
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.960
point, saying, Okay, yeah, the real stuff is awful, but

483
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:54.519
the AI stuff is keeping these people
from actually hurting kids, so let them

484
00:43:54.519 --> 00:44:00.239
have it. That is a slippery
slope. Uh, as far as I'm

485
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:08.360
concerned, you have the ability to
generate this awful, awful stuff, But

486
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:14.159
at some point when does that not
When is when does that become not enough?

487
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.679
And then they branch out into the
real Like it's a big issue too

488
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:24.800
with how the generator works. It
doesn't randomly create art from nothing. It's

489
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:30.880
finding this ship on the Internet and
putting it together and it's already out there.

490
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:44.199
You got a guess behind you,
Bud so sneaky, She's very sneaky.

491
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:51.639
At some point, the AI generated
material for some of these creeps is

492
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.400
just it's not going to be enough. Yeah, that's and where I'm at.

493
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:01.000
So okay, Yeah, it's kind
of a gateway, yeah essentially,

494
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.480
and that even yes, it's a
gateway, but you know, people have

495
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.920
been using. Well, metal music
or violent video games is a gateway to

496
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:15.519
violence and everything else. I've played
violent video games my entire life and I've

497
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:22.440
never killed anybody yet. So I
love the qualifier. I had to put

498
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.480
it in there. But it's just, you know, oh, you're listening

499
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.039
to metal music, you're a satanist, You're gonna hurt people, You're part

500
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.920
of an occult whatever. You're playing
violent video games, you're going to become

501
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.199
a school shooter. All of that
nonsense. That was just you know,

502
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:43.800
they're going going after Marilyn Manson with
Columbine and you know that kind of stuff.

503
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:50.400
So it's it is a you know, a double edged sword. You

504
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:58.119
we've proven that this doesn't necessarily you
know, the violent video games doesn't necessarily

505
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.679
lead to violence. The violent music
doesn't necessarily lead to violence. But if

506
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:08.639
you're one of these people predisposed with
just some genetic mutation that has you wanting

507
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.760
this awful, terrible crap, at
some point, the fake isn't going to

508
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.960
be enough, right, the high
is not there anymore. Yeah, And

509
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.920
that's I'm thinking too. Yeah.
And that's the thing is like I think

510
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.079
that you know, like if I
have a rough day of work or something,

511
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.519
and I come home and I throw
on GTA five and I just drive

512
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.280
around and run over people and blow
stuff up. It's not that I want

513
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.280
to do that in real life.
It's it's like that that release of this

514
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.440
is this is good. I didn't
act out on violence today, so this

515
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.000
is this is sustaining. You know, this makes me feel better. You

516
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:44.440
know, I don't look good in
Orange, right. I've never I've never

517
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.480
once played the video games and then
been like, you know what, I

518
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:51.159
want to try this in the real
world. Yeah, not with something like

519
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:52.880
that. I'm sure there's other shit
that I've been like, could do that.

520
00:46:53.719 --> 00:47:00.239
I feel like they're no matter I
get where the whole like doing something

521
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:06.679
in a video game or looking stuff
up like it makes you like you might

522
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.079
want to do those things. But
I really feel like there has to be

523
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:15.079
something really deep inside you that like
is already. Yeah, yeah, there's

524
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.960
something fundamentally wrong. Yeah, there
was something there already. I think I

525
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.880
talked about this when we it was
last season. I wanted to talk about

526
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.519
serial killers, like especially like Jeffrey
Dahmer, Like, dude, he got

527
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.760
like aroused when he killed people.
So there's something weird, like because you

528
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:37.599
can't just get you have that feeling
when you like, like for people like

529
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.119
it's the like the opposite sex or
the same sex. You have to have

530
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.880
that feeling to get like to get
to that point to be aroused. So

531
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.800
there has to be something uh in
you that makes you want to do that.

532
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.480
And let me put this out there. I'm not saying that people that

533
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:01.519
are gay or whatever, they're not
like siliveral killers. I'm not saying that.

534
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.400
Please don't put me. I already
had my foot in my mouth today.

535
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.880
Isn't it sad how much we have
to like just qualify so we don't

536
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.159
get canceled over something. So you
can't you can't talk anymore. You can't

537
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.320
talk and express yourself without offending seventeen
other groups of people, now you know,

538
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.320
right, Yeah, yeah, it's
just kind of like I get where

539
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:29.400
uh Jake is coming from on the
like it like it helps them keep them

540
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.920
from doing bad things. But then
again, I'm like, I feel like

541
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.400
this is like it's such it's so
bad because like, yeah, he's talking

542
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:44.440
about the mental music and people like
they like okay. A very controversial song

543
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:50.559
back in the day was Cannibal Recorps
fucked with a knife that was talking about

544
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:57.159
rape. Yeah, like that's that's
fucked up. Yeah, Like I've listened

545
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.920
to the song, like, but
yeah, I don't personally like that doesn't

546
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:06.920
make me want to go out and
do it. No, And it's not

547
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:14.679
the type of imagery that I would
personally seek out. Uh So I don't

548
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.679
know like it. It is a
double edged sword. You're you're walking on

549
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:23.559
a thin line here with all this
AI stuff, And I guess you're right.

550
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:32.239
I feel like more of the the
blame should go on the person that

551
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:40.440
is allowing this these images to happen. Yeah, because it like there's countless

552
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:44.880
ones I use mid Journey. I
use mid Journey all the time, and

553
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:50.360
they are strict on that I can't
even put anything about violence or blood.

554
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.920
Yeah, it will not let you
do that. So at the very least

555
00:49:54.079 --> 00:50:00.360
the the there should be something,
uh some kind of law enforcing thing that's

556
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.599
put into place with the DAI that
says, if you generate this type of

557
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:13.400
image, we want accountability and URL
addresses for every piece that it pulled to

558
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.320
make this image. Every piece must
be accounted for, you know, because

559
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.239
it pulls stuff together and it meshes
together and makes this stuff. So I

560
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.840
want every single thing it pulled from
to be accounted for and back LENGTHD and

561
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.679
that should be in the metadata of
the image so that someone can take this

562
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:36.760
image and basically pull up the properties
and they can read where every single piece

563
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.880
was pulled from. And it might
take more program mark like more coding,

564
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:44.639
more programming. It might even make
the download of the image bigger. A

565
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.760
tough shit. If you're generating this
type of material, that's that's the price

566
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.280
you're going to have to pay.
Because it's fucked up. It's morally wrong.

567
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.719
And if it's pulling anything from an
actual picture of something of this shit

568
00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:00.800
happening, the people need to know
where that's at, and the fucking law

569
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.599
needs to know where that's at so
it can be handled. It shouldn't have

570
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:10.320
the content to pull from, you
know what I mean? Right now,

571
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:16.719
I'm the material. Yeah, there
should be no bucket of fucking parts for

572
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.760
it to grab from. So that's
what I think is, like, you

573
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.000
want to generate the image, fine, but I want the source on the

574
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.480
fucking materials that he used to put
it together, right. And here's the

575
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.880
thing too, is the stuff that
he was using was what you know,

576
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:37.920
Tyler was trying to remember the word
of it was Hentai. It was anime

577
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:45.400
stuff. I deserve that, but
it was anime. So not only was

578
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.840
this generated, motherfucker, Not only
was this, dude, you know,

579
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.039
not only was the images not real
because it was AI generated, but the

580
00:51:54.119 --> 00:52:00.119
AI source material wasn't real. It
was cartoon. And that's like kids even

581
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.320
do it like a weirder, deeper, fucking problematic thing to make laws for.

582
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.719
Yeah, and that bad thing about
that is that this like that that

583
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:17.840
hinshi has been a thing for years
before AI. Yeah. Motherfuckers were drawling

584
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:23.239
this ship. Mm hmmm. They
were drawling it like it comes from another

585
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:29.280
country. Yeah. Yeah, and
you know, and when it gets into

586
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:36.000
our court systems, you know,
that's when we got to start questioning things,

587
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.639
right this one, this one turns
to Jake care for this one.

588
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.280
He's got a little piece of information
that I learned last night that I think

589
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:49.920
you guys are gonna be really can
we get the image again? Yeah,

590
00:52:50.000 --> 00:53:01.639
you're riding on thee a happy little
all right, So Jake us tell us

591
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:08.519
the information you told me last night. So there was a lawyer who he

592
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:15.639
claims due to his caseload and the
amount of work and pressure he was under.

593
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:24.480
This lawyer was using AI to assist
in creating essentially his arguments in court,

594
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.159
his opening closing statements, his arguments
during the case. And the AI

595
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:40.559
program was spitting out case references and
citing cases from all over the country and

596
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:49.400
Supreme court cases. And said lawyer
won a lot of the cases that he

597
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:55.199
used this in until somebody started digging
in and finding out that a lot of

598
00:53:55.239 --> 00:54:01.599
the case references that AI was using
were made up. They didn't exist.

599
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:16.320
So the AI was pulling case references
from scripts for arguments and thesis statements that

600
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.119
you know, people write in college, and it was just grabbing these because

601
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:28.039
it was McDonald v. United States
or whatever. Yeah, and it's like,

602
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.639
oh, okay, this is a
legal document, legal case. Throw

603
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:37.679
it into the argument and presented as
such. Dude got busted, got called

604
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:44.920
out for it. So this happened
actually back in June, lawyer who cited

605
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:54.400
cases concocted by AI asked judge despair
sanctions. So lawyer asked a Manhattan federal

606
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:59.679
judge not to sanction him after he
included made up case citations generated by an

607
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:07.800
AI intelligence chatbot and a legal brief. They so, in this one instance

608
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:14.760
that they've pulled so far, the
open AI's chat GPT program helped to research

609
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:22.119
the brief, which which cited six
non existent court decisions six and one case.

610
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:30.159
Wow. Right, let's think of
the gravity of that situation. Yeah,

611
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.000
it ships out of fucking control.
That means that in that case,

612
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:40.440
was he was he a defense attorney
or was he a prosecutor? So let's

613
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:51.760
see this case was it was a
personal injury case against Avianca Airlines. So

614
00:55:51.880 --> 00:56:01.199
he was a he was a client
representative, he was a client's lawyer who

615
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:09.920
was suing Avionic Airlines for person prosecution. Yeah, so this this person won

616
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:17.679
presumably a lawsuit against a corporation based
on ship that didn't happen. Now this

617
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:21.719
is just one instance. I mean, think about the people that could be

618
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:30.039
convicted of crimes based on this or
not convicted based on this. Didn You

619
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:34.400
say that this like opens up a
wormhole for all the mistrials. Yeah,

620
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:42.039
anything that has been used. You
know, it used to be the cases

621
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.079
that were cited, you know,
they were easily defined, easily found,

622
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:52.599
easily cited. Now there's so much
going on. Uh, these cases being

623
00:56:52.760 --> 00:57:01.400
propagated by AI being used in criminal
cases, and if a prosecutor uses it

624
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:10.199
and somebody is found guilty based on
a cited circumstance and case, and then

625
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:15.079
that case actually doesn't exist and it
can't be cited as a legal precedent.

626
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:22.599
Now you've got mistrials, right,
which is good because the people who went

627
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:31.320
to jail false are getting out,
But the fact that people are at risk

628
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:37.400
of going to jail falsely because of
AI, right. I mean, you

629
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.199
can literally just type anything up and
make a website and if you use the

630
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:45.840
right keywords and search words and hot
buttons to tag your article, it could

631
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.320
be complete bs. But as long
as the right stuff is in there,

632
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:55.960
chat, GPT or any of the
other AI will it'll pull it and it'll

633
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.280
use it and whatever referencing it's doing. So let's think about what that's going

634
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:06.320
to cost the American people. You've
got anything that any court case that's happened

635
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:13.280
since the advent of AI, chat
GTP, somebody that was convicted could call

636
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.639
from you know, call for a
mistrial, like, hey, let's let's

637
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:21.440
investigate this. So we're going to
tie up court time, court costs,

638
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:30.440
checking all of references in all these
court cases to make sure that the lawyers

639
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:39.800
that preceded didn't use falsified court references. That's fucked up, dude. This

640
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:45.719
this is going to cost millions.
Yeah, and you've got a US judge

641
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:51.880
who is ordering lawyers to sign an
AI pledge stating that they didn't use AI

642
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:59.760
in their arguments and case proceedings.
And I mean people are people. Not

643
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.119
obviously there's the jokes about lawyers,
but people are people. They're gonna do

644
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:06.559
whatever's easy and whatever they can do
to make them win. So, yeah,

645
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:10.159
they sign it. How many people
get caught for perjury lying under oath?

646
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:15.360
You signed it? If you do
enough and kind of pad your case

647
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.440
enough, is anybody really gonna find
it? There's gonna have to be people

648
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:22.920
who you hire to dig into this. Yeah, that's that. Shit is

649
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.039
becoming more and more of a mess. And I think it's personally, I

650
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:31.559
just think it's fucking dangerous. That
it's oh, it's incredibly dangerous. It's

651
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:36.400
we're not even at real AI here, you know what I mean. This

652
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.880
isn't actual artificial intelligence. It's a
it's a program and there, you know

653
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:45.639
what I mean. And it's literally
that already this is fucking dangerous, causing

654
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:52.000
immense amounts of chaos. You know, it's I mean, you've got fucking

655
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:57.400
people that are getting either convicted or
not convicted based on falsified information that's coming

656
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.480
off of a computer. And then
you've got people creating fucking kiddie porn with

657
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.679
it. I mean, this is
it's fucking disgusting, and it's terrifying to

658
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.320
see if it's not. If somebody
doesn't put a leash on this ship,

659
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:16.079
where's it going to be in five
years? Well, you guys, you

660
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.480
guys know about this, like celebrities
now, Like, first of Bill has

661
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:24.880
sold his likeness. You know,
he can't act anymore, He can't act

662
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:29.039
anymore, so he sold his likeness
so that they can put him in movies.

663
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:35.960
So pretty soon you're you're not even
I mean you're you're gonna have to

664
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.920
literally sit there and wonder while you're
watching a movie if the guy's actually even

665
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.880
fucking there. Yeah. I think
we talked about this previously. I think

666
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.159
that was one of the things I
said was that you know, it's it's

667
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.880
now it's going to be a financial
thing, you know, because you could

668
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.440
you could easily just put somebody's face
over another face and now you've got that

669
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:59.079
actor or you've caught them in a
in a compromising position, right, Yeah,

670
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.320
I mean this is it's out of
control. Something has to be done

671
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:05.760
before because it's only a matter of
time before somebody does something fucked up with

672
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.079
it, you know, and keep
in mind when it does come to a

673
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:15.239
head. We tried to warn you, We tried. Yeah, we're in

674
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.079
good company. People a lot smarter
than us have tried to warn too.

675
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.559
Yes, right, I think we'll
be We'll probably be the first thing that

676
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:30.119
fucking AI targets. These guys have
been talking ship for seasons on this.

677
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.320
So yeah, we me and Tyler
one day, like was playing with the

678
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:37.039
AI on here after you got off
Denny, and we couldn't get it to

679
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:43.079
find us, Like if you typed
us in, it didn't know who the

680
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:47.719
hell we were. So we're safe
at the moment from that one. From

681
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:53.880
that one for now. Uh,
speaking of being being out in the public

682
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.519
eye, we got uh. I
wanted to. I wanted to throw a

683
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:02.599
big thank you out there. It's
twenty seven thousand of you have made us

684
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:09.480
your top ten podcast, and seventeen
thousand of you made us your top five,

685
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.840
and thank you for that. I
still mind blowing that you all even

686
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:21.599
listen to us. How many congratulations
guys with number one? I think,

687
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.119
yeah, you know what, I'd
have to dig back through it and find

688
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:29.639
it. But number one was like
half of the seventeen thousand. It was

689
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:31.360
three thousand, seven hundred and three. There you go, There you go.

690
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:36.559
So you three thousand that made us
your number one. You've really got

691
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:40.400
to get their standards higher, Okay. I mean there's lots of good shows

692
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:45.760
out there. That's amazing. I
didn't even know we had twenty seven thousand

693
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:51.199
listeners on spots. It's unbelievable.
And believe me, when that came through

694
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.719
in the email, I sat here, I was getting ready for work,

695
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.000
and I sat here on the like
right here, drinking my coffee, and

696
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:07.119
I'm like, that can't be right. What right? So I'm I don't

697
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:08.920
want to speak for everybody, but
I'm gonna say from from my from the

698
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:14.079
bottom of my heart, I am
very humbled by that. Holy shit,

699
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:20.280
Wow, just being in your top
ten is amazing to me. If we

700
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.480
were in your top fifty, I'd
be like, really cool. You know,

701
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:27.880
that's so awesome. Thank you so
much out there. Any traction that

702
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:31.639
our little show has is literally because
of you. So you know what,

703
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:38.519
give yourself a little pat on the
back for me. Right, that's incredible,

704
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:40.920
guys, Congratulations on that, by
the way, Thank you, thank

705
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.320
you. It's really cool. They've
watched us talk shit, they've watched us

706
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:52.559
look into Bigfoot, aliens, ghost
conspiracies, AI then go back and talk

707
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:58.760
shit about ghosts and Bigfoot, and
they've stuck with us through it, and

708
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:02.000
I, I don't know why,
but thank you so much. It's awesome.

709
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:09.400
I just wanted to make sure I
didn't forget because yeah, so yeah,

710
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.519
pretty cool. But guys, we're
we're at a buck forty six on

711
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:16.760
this. Uh yeah, do you
guys want to I don't know, Should

712
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.840
I should? I? I mean, what do you? Okay, here's

713
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:23.199
another one? Should I should?
I bust this in half and we make

714
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:30.000
the next one we record after this
this season finale. Oh, because we're

715
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:31.679
we're at the time of year,
We're we're at the holidays, and this

716
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:35.960
is where it starts getting hard for
us to record. Yeah, and yeah,

717
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:41.039
we wanted to do a live show, right, like a live broadcast.

718
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:44.599
Yeah, I wanted to talk to
you guys. I've been wanting to

719
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:46.920
talk to you guys about that.
When we want to try to do that,

720
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:53.239
I'm actually trying to pull up like, yeah, I totally forgot.

721
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.679
It's already December. Yeah, so
we're looking at uh, we're looking at

722
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:00.119
hiatus time. Yeah, I'm just
about we go on our month long vacation.

723
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:04.159
Ye, we do our live at
the end of the year. I

724
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:11.000
still think that we should we should
do Like, that's my birthday, yep,

725
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:18.320
it's also the birthday of the show, So probably not gonna happen on

726
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.000
my birthday. I'm just gonna go
ahead and put that out there. Reasonable,

727
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:29.559
what about the twenty ninthis right,
I'm all, I don't think we're

728
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:31.599
gonna get much I don't think we're
gonna get much traction on the twenty ninth,

729
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:36.280
because that's the Friday before New Year's. Yeah, and so the New

730
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:43.400
Year's is going to be a party
all weekend. I was thinking one of

731
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:49.880
the next couple of weeks, either
the eleventh, orty eighteenth. The eleventh

732
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.559
is a Monday, The eighteenth is
a Monday. Are you wanting to go

733
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.320
live? Oh? I see,
I see, So maybe like what the

734
01:05:56.360 --> 01:06:00.199
fifteenth do do alive, do an
episode, drop an episode on on the

735
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:03.079
eleventh, and then go live on
the fifteenth or something, or sixteenth we'd

736
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:06.000
go, I would say we do
live on the sixteenth, because fifteenth would

737
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:11.039
be band practice. Oh yeah,
okay, well let's do that. This

738
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:15.239
will be about as planned as we
get for. This is actually way better

739
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.280
than we usually do. Yeah.
We usually just like show up to it,

740
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.119
like, hey, we're live.
Yeah. So I think what we

741
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:25.119
should do is is make it to
where a few listeners can get a link

742
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:29.199
to join in and we can have
them on for fifteen to twenty minutes and

743
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.840
then boot them and get the next
person on or whatever if they're interested,

744
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:38.559
you know, be awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm down.

745
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:42.840
It's been It's been a fun,
interesting year. There's been so many good

746
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.960
topics and so many good milestones.
To be honest, I feel like this

747
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:51.000
year was the year of milestones for
the show. More than more than anything,

748
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:55.039
we just we crushed a bunch of
shit. Man. We got a

749
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.559
website, we got T shirts,
and shit, we went on a field

750
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.360
trip. I mean, well,
we went on a couple of field trips,

751
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.840
didn't we Or was that last season
we went to oh no, no,

752
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:09.159
we only went on one this year. One this year, yeah,

753
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.639
one last year. Yeah. So
yeah, it's been it's been really damn

754
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.159
fun this year, and it's going
to be really fun trying to figure out

755
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.880
a way to top it next year. And uh and I think i'll uh

756
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:24.320
during the live I'll uh, you're
gonna reveal the colors. I might,

757
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:29.800
I might reveal the colors for our
fucking colors. Bro. Yeah, we

758
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:31.400
need to see what our season four
colors are going to be. And it's

759
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:36.559
exciting because yeah, we've worn this
all year and it's out of style now

760
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.960
we're nothing if not vogue. Right, you guys have got to do a

761
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:49.840
field trip down here and do the
uh the Haunted Wilmington, North Carolina Tour.

762
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:56.960
I'm in Yeah, I'm ready to
go back. I love it the

763
01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:01.679
history that they do during the tour
as well as the haunted history of it.

764
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:08.480
Wilmington's a really interesting place and the
history down here is pretty neat and

765
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:14.039
the uh the Haunted history is quite
intriguing as well. And depending on the

766
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.680
time of year, they do the
We've got the USS North Carolina Battleship here

767
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:23.880
in Wilmington and they do a Haunted
Tour of it as well. That's amazing

768
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.239
to me. I'm in dude,
like, I'm I wonder if they would

769
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.600
like get on us, if we
like throw off the cameras and yeah,

770
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:38.399
talk shit and you know, the
Haunted Wilmington Tour. Uh, they are

771
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:44.720
open to questions and scheduling things.
So as far as taking like a go

772
01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:48.319
pro and recording while on it,
it does not seem that they have an

773
01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:51.760
issue with that. It'd be cool
if they would like lock us in,

774
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:57.199
you know what I mean, like
like put us in there and just lock

775
01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:00.680
the doors and let us just wander
around. We won't touch anything and break

776
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:05.680
nothing. The whole town of Wilmington. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna shut

777
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:11.159
down the town and uh and just
walk through and you know, like stumble

778
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:16.000
around and look at things, go
through people's personal belongings looking for ghosts and

779
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.479
you know what I mean, and
just things like that. Get their fridges.

780
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:25.159
Now, there are bars on the
on the Haunted Wilmington tour. There

781
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:29.840
we go with bars. We need
to investigate the bars to make sure that

782
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.520
for hours. We need to investigate. They absolutely do that. I heard

783
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:39.560
that most ghosts like to hang out
in the kegs. We should get to

784
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:45.039
the bottom of that, get to
the bottom of that out Yeah, so

785
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:51.399
you were going to say we need
to lock Tyler in there. I feel

786
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:55.319
like I got that out of my
system. I think we should put you

787
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:59.359
in the bottom of the belly of
that the battleship down there. Hell,

788
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:04.239
it's a neat experience being in there. I would like to go do that.

789
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:11.880
I think that'd be awesome, that'd
be bad ass. Yeah, it's

790
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.880
a it's a hell of a hell
of a drive out there, and there's

791
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:19.520
some beautiful, beautiful country. And
then I have to well, Wilmington's a

792
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:24.680
little bit north of where I was. South is it south? Yep?

793
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:29.560
Oh, okay, my bad,
I stand corrected. Wilmington south of where

794
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:32.199
I was. But I can tell
you that the reveal of going where I

795
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:40.439
went, when you crest that bridge, there's nothing like it. I've never

796
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:44.000
seen anything like it on earth.
And that's a cool part of town too,

797
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:47.000
because I mean that flag that Jake's
got behind his head there, you

798
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:50.560
know. Yeah, there's some pretty
neat history there in that little park.

799
01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:56.800
That little island called Topsail Island.
It's out got its name. Yep,

800
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:02.720
it's black beards sails should do like
like try to map it out to see

801
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:06.600
if we can hit like spots on
along the way that are like haunted or

802
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:13.399
have like unexplained things. Yeah.
I mean it'll take you through West Virginia,

803
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:15.439
which has got plenty I mean,
come on, it's West Virginia.

804
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.680
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, then you've got Mont is it Mont

805
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:27.560
Pilier, which is not Montpiler Mont
Mount there's Pilot Mountain, Pilot Mountain.

806
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:30.520
That's what I was looking for,
Mount Pilot. Andy Griffiths show. Nice.

807
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:35.800
Yeah, the Mayberry town is there, yep. Awesome, like a

808
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:40.000
jail house. You could sit in
Andy Griffith's chair like the whole ship.

809
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:43.560
Yeah, that'd be fine. Hell
yeah, what do you guys out there?

810
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:45.800
Things you think we should go should
be? Send us one thousand dollars,

811
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:50.680
Send us one thousand dollars and tell
us so we could afford to do

812
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:56.800
this ship. Yeah awesome. I'd
love to have you guys down here for

813
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.760
it. And yeah, we're probably
going to reveal something big. I think.

814
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:04.920
I don't know if we disclosed it
beforehand. I know we were talking

815
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:11.319
a little bit about it, but
there's something big changes on the horizon for

816
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:15.279
us. Yeah, four opener,
I think we should. We should definitely

817
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.920
talk about that. Yeah, I
guess, uh visually too, so you'll

818
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:26.920
you'll you'll see something different. Oh
yeah, now I'm confused. Yeah,

819
01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:30.439
I was looking at anyway he said. When you said that, I'm like,

820
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:31.640
just an you know something I don't. And then I saw the look

821
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.479
in his eyes, like, well, you guys know, but I feel

822
01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:43.079
like I'm being very vague. Ah, you're vague casting Yeah, well okay,

823
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:48.119
I know one of the in this. So yeah, it's the longer

824
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:51.760
that clock runs, the more I
have to edit. Yeah, so gonna

825
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:56.239
cut this one and a half.
So seeing a couple of weeks for that

826
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:00.279
live, how's that? Yeah?
I would love to touch on some topics

827
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:04.119
that we didn't get to. Uh
if whenever, you guys want to have

828
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:08.319
me on again. If you are
you busy on the sixteenth, well you

829
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:12.399
could come do the live with us. That'd be awesome. If you're busy,

830
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:15.600
No I am not shit, let's
do that. Let's get Jake on

831
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:17.520
for the live. Try to get
some other folks to jump on with us.

832
01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.239
Make this a big panel and talk. I'd be really fun. So

833
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.840
anybody who wants to jump on and
bullshit with us. Let us know,

834
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:27.119
hit us up. Yeah, it'd
be awesome. We'll have Jake tell us

835
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:31.119
some more, some more mysteries,
interesting mysteries, dive a little deeper into

836
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:35.359
some AI stuff that we didn't get
to touch on today. Absolutely, we've

837
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:42.840
got a further paint the target on
our backs for AI and I'm in and

838
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.960
we'll tell them, look them right
in the eyes, and we'll stand up

839
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:49.439
tall and straight when we face AI
and we'll say Jake made us do it.

840
01:13:51.159 --> 01:14:00.239
I'm fine with it. It's all
Jack, I'm with it. Lad

841
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.199
to heavy on, man, it's
always fun. Glad to be on guys.

842
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:08.520
Thank you very much. Will Oh. That was a personal kiss to

843
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:12.560
Joe. That was a personal,
personal, personal one. Wow. Wow,

844
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:16.399
that's that's a pretty big He's like, I'm never coming back to this

845
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:23.199
podcast. No, I'm I'm now
he's he's coming back. I'm thrilled he

846
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:27.560
was. He was thinking about ghosting
before, but now I'm honored. I

847
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.000
mean, that was that was a
personal one to me. Yeah, me

848
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.159
and Joshph never even got those.
That's a big deal. Yeah, all

849
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:39.840
right, you guys out there take
care of each other and uh, you

850
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:46.520
know, we'll see you good week. See you guys. Thanks guys.

851
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.760
Remember the last one he had to
come back and do it twice because he

852
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:56.239
missed missed one. I like that. I like accountability and consistency there,

853
01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.520
you know, yeah, because what
was it a disconnected or something? Yeah,

854
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:08.119
you're your fucking your computer, fucking
AI right out fucking it literally looks

855
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:14.319
like you're drinking a rolling rock.
A fucking they don't know what time we

856
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:19.199
record this. That fucking color that
can looks exactly like the rolling rock.

857
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.399
I can't tell you how close it's
been for me to put a rolling rock

858
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:27.399
in my lunchbox because the cans are
right next to each other in the same

859
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.199
fridge, and I'm like, oh, nope, not that one. Let's

860
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:35.199
not take beer to work, No
I have. I asked beer man,

861
01:15:35.520 --> 01:17:06.800
a beer, damn it, a
beer we can't get into. Do about