S376: Cryptid Con Lexington and the development of AI is a PROBLEM!

0:00 You are listening to The Kentucky x Files Season three with your hosts Dennis Mays, Tylers Stewart, and Josh Gibbs. Don't forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also visitors at w w W dot k y x files dot com, and now onto our show. So hey, you guys, doing is good the record, I say the things, don't just say it. They already know. I've already said. I've already outed myself. So do it, do it, do it, do it. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. Do it.

1:07 Do it? Saturday, Right, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. Welcome back, guys to Tyler Shatner. You're I'm an adult, right, I don't want a child past Kitschucky x Files. Will man, this motherfucker try to make me type in ten. Hell no, I ain't buying ten tickets. We got to get Josh a ticket. Yeah. So okay, let's back up on this one here. So cryptoicon right, cryptid dot com rypt we are we shouldn't give you financial advice? No, definitely not so when we we did our sponsorship, we're a silver level sponsor with cryptied Con Silver Foxes. Yeah, however when we did such a thing, it only gave us two fucking tickets. Yeah, they're not They're not very friendly to plus size fucking podcast right, so being three of us, Yeah, yeah, no doubt so. Even though we're a silver sponsor, the one with the most silver has to buy his own ticket. Oh man,

2:42 Uh so you guys, you guys are tuning in at the perfect time. We're discussing uh our cryptid Con not Crypto cryptied Con in Lexington next month and you can come and hang out with us there. Wouldn't that be fun? And uh? Yeah? So we're a so o a sponsor because we're silber Foxes. It's not a big deal. How you doing good? Right? So? Yeah, I'm excited though, I really really hope there is a encrypted there or talk of a cryptid that I've never heard of. That's what I'm excited for. How about you, guys? Do you think it's just gonna be a big big foot bash when we get there? No, because well here's the thing is this is like a national thing, right yeah?

3:42 So yeah, it's a man these jokers want Let me check out what PayPal without pay I can't use PayPal on this, so all right, I'm already voicing my opinion on this on the show. I probably shouldn't. I don't have to wait because I don't have my wallet in here to put my car numbers and all that in. If I could have done PayPal, this would have been so much smoother. Cryptid con, cryptid cod PayPal, motherfucker right. I think they have like an eighties like theme, crypticn Like Yeah, it's like all the like cryptis have, like like go bottom pants. Well that's me. You get there at the door, you got coins in a coin slot until you get to fifty bucks, and then fifty or sixty at the door, you're muted. You're muted. No for just Saturday, it'll be forty bucks at the door. Oh, forty bucks in the door.

4:35 Yeah, it's only it's only sixty. If you're getting a two day pass, we're saving you like twenty bucks by showing up the day we go. Yeah, see that, we're all about them bargains. Well no, not no, we're that's not how that works. No, we'd be saving on twenty bucks if it was sixty dollars to go on Sunday but it's the same on Sunday. See that financial advice from Kentucky x files right, And by the way, that's some fucking weird Matthew guys going there, because that's not saving anybody, anybody if they're spending it. That's true. The people we're gonna save money for is if we don't get busted running a camera encryptid con.

5:19 Those are the people that are saving money if they just watch what we do, if we don't get kicked out, which we I hope we wouldn't because if we do. You know, I'm totally screaming. I'm a silver sponsor all the way out the door. I'm a responsorsponsors. You get dragged out, get off me. Do you know who I am? I can't. I can't see that happening these Uh, this has been going on for a long time. And no, it's free promotion, Yes, yes, free promotion like like this, this con is not going anywhere. So wait a minute, hold up, hold up, o God, that just so on the nose. He's not He's not wrong though, I Mean, let's let's face it, that's kind of a con. Yeah, if you think about it. Yeah, being fair here if I can't tell Tyler Froze or he just like he just realized what he said, you know, live on the show here and is like, oh crap, we're silver sponsors and we're calling this a con but it is a con for a con. I wonder if people working at the conference, if they're con men well and con women.

6:34 Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah, I like, I wonder if they're going to pump music through, are we gonna be able to hear some conway? I guess, I guess I lose my deposit now. Yeah, you know, we're a good place to be to have one of these would be is connecticuet Yeah, I think that's a New Jersey do joys. I don't think we're going to geography or financial advice and travel advice. Yeah, we'll get you there. We're gonna get you there. Yeah. Yeah in Lexington, Kentucky on Saturday. The three of us are going to be there. They might not let us in if they probably won't. Now I fucking heard what you fucker said. Yeah, we got a background for you guys. Well, nobody's watching us that's doing this show. They're counting.

7:33 We have, there's eyeballs, we have Kentucky in our name. They definitely probably will. They're definitely probably doing their due diligence, not like how we do our due diligence. I was, I was on YouTube looking at I was looking at footage where people were walking through like UFO conferences, right, And there's just huge, huge difference if you if you get a chance out there to look at some of these videos, it's pretty wild. Go to uh, like, watch watch Bigfoot conferences. Me and Tyler went down to the to the one and the smoky right, the smoky one, smoky mountain. Everyone there is like smiles happy. You know, it's a good time. It's fun, right, it is kind of like a flea market, but it's a good time. There's you really you rarely ever get greeted with anybody with a somber face there. Everybody's really excited to be there.

8:37 Well, then I started watching UFO conferences. These people are like they're there for business, Like it's you don't really see as much of the like, hey, welcome to the UFO conference. Yeah I was abducted. It's uh, but I have these coffee mugs that you can buy, right, none of that happens. Well, welcome to UFO conference. I love you. Yeah, And the only thing I kept thinking was is like, Okay, so these folks at the UFO thing actually have a trauma. Yeah, most of them are there because they're something for something scared of them. I didn't notice that as much at the at the other one, you know what I mean. Actually I didn't notice it at all. So I was like, I don't know, it was a weird little thing that I picked up on, and I'm like, this is so strange to me. It's like, why is the the UFO conference? Why is it so like you know, I know, I keep saying somber, but that's the only word I can think of that that kind of like conveys what I'm thinking. It's like it feels more grounded. It feels much more grounded. But there's almost like a malaise laying over the topic, like it's not a happy topic. Malaise.

9:58 Yeah, it sounds like some and you would put on like a lammer, some sort of meat to base this with a with a golden malaise. Yeah, I am Dennis Dennis malaise. Can I tempt you with a jar of malaise? Naise? No? I love that reaction though. No, No, it was just really weird because I'm actually looking forward to uh getting to a UFO conference at some point because I'd like to take the camera around and talk to some people. And definitely, if you guys didn't notice on the last one, if you're at the Lexington Encryptid Convention or conference, whatever you want to call it, I will be walking around with a GoPro and I have literally no qualms whatsoever about walking directly up to you and talking to you on camera about things. As I think I proved. I don't. I don't know why I do this to people, but I do. If you have something you want to tell me or us, we will we will like love to hear it. And if it's a new cryptid too, oh my god, I'm so excited. I'm I'm tired of the usual suspects, you know, the bushman or dog man, you know that one. The thing I'm worried about, though, is just being a national convention that's you know, not only in Lexington, Kentucky. So we're not gonna I don't know

11:30 if we're going to get a lot of specifically Kentucky stuff like the whole you know, I'm okay with that, though I'd like to. I just want to hear some different ones, you know what I mean. I actually uh. Another thing too, is uh. I don't know how it would go over. I would like to work on it in the next year, possibly season four. Is uh. I would very much like to take us, as you know, as our little group here and go to a Native American pallele, and I'd like to hear some traditional stories about some of these these creatures that they you know, that they believe in, you know what I mean. I just think it'd be really fun. Plus, I mean, it would be cool to just be there. I don't know, I know I've talked about it before, but go into a powwow and listen to those drums and listen to the songs. Man, it's it's it's awesome. It's just amazing, you know. But I think it'd be really fun. I don't know how they feel about the go pro and all that, but work to try, right. Yeah, Yeah, I think it'd be fun.

12:33 If you guys, any of you guys out there listening to this little show, if you're if you want to come out hang out with us, man, you can't miss us, we stick out like sore thumbs. Just come on up to us. Yeah, it'd be great. Well, actually, no way. Mitte, me and Tyler figured this out that we actually don't stick out at storre thumbs at all, because when we got to the big Foot thing, we noticed that there was there was Denny's, Tyler's and Josh is like everywhere, oh yeah it was. It was yeah. We were like, wow, I really feel painted into a corner here, like you know then, uh, Tyler getting mistaken for another podcaster was it's pretty fucking amazing to be I kind of wish I would have been there for that part if nothing else. And I like to say that in typical Denny, I completely encouraged it. I totally told her that, yes, that was him.

13:30 He needs she needs to I was like, dude, shut the fuck up. I'm like, that's him, it's him. I didn't get an autograms tim, I can't look. I'm touching his shoulder and he's real. Oh my god. It was fucking amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. I loved it. So yeah, I don't know. I'm I think it's gonna be fun regardless. That's that's the one thing that you can count on is whether we get a whole lot out of the conference. We definitely never leave without a good time. We're never gonna leave without a good time.

14:16 That's that's gotta have them. Yeah, So I am excited. I want to I want to hear some of these stories. Uh. I hope, Uh I hope we get to hear ship that we've never heard before. That's That's what I'm really pumped about. Yeah, less it's more dog men stuff. I'm a little over it, to be honest. Yeah mm hmm. Like Jesus Christ, with this many sightings, millions of sightings, how do you have less pictures than Bigfoot? Right? Yeah? I don't know it that Uh that one big Foot picture keeps floating around the the train you know the one that where they from the train or whatever. Yeah, the Colorado.

15:09 Oh my god, man, this ship drives me up the wall. It's like you can see it's pants. You could see the pants when it was so the When you were talking about that one, there was another shot from a train video that happened a couple of years ago. Yeah, it was debunked and it was I believe a very similar suit. But it was in the woods, not on a hillside, and I cannot for the life and we find it again. Yeah, you know. The one siding that I mean, in all honesty, the one siding that I really liked a lot, and it was a video, was that couple that was they were driving across country and they were filming. They just had a fixed camera filming, right, And it was basically so they had like you know, the fade in travel travel video cuts or whatever, and they're not like, they're not bigfooters, they're not paranormal people at all. They were just like voggers or whatever. And uh, later on someone had spotted something in their video and when they went back to it, it literally looks like either a guy in a bigfoot suit, a bigfoot or a bigfoot cutout just out in the middle of nowhere. You're muted again, buddy. All I said was, yeah, I kind of remember that one because I think I even said something.

16:37 It wasn't the one with the cutout. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's pants, man, that's fucking pants. I mean, come on, give me a break. Yeah. But just like that, you get a video like this and it gets it gets circulating around Facebook. Man, this shit. It sparks debates every day. And then when it this was on w FAA, I guess channel channel eighth. Yeah, so, and it seemed like there was a like going through some of the videos like uh kt VB, I guess, I guess that's a call. I don't know if that's a Colorado based news station, but they they picked it up.

17:51 Just every news out like news outlet started to pick this up Fox twenty six Houston, right, say, when you start getting traction, especially on media like big like big news media, yeah, it's it's hard to like to actually get the real truth out of it, or like even if it's fake, like fake, even if somebody blatantly says like, yeah I did that, that was me. I was actually like trying to find a new hunting ground or something, and they would somebody who's like, nah, that's not you. I don't know. I just hate it. I get I get pissed about it because I'm like, man, I wonder when nobody will ever take this serious, you know what I mean? And now with with with AI, Okay, they've got AI out there and they're making fake Joe Rogan clips really and the people are taking this ship like it's the gospel.

19:00 Are you serious? They're making fake Joe Rogan clips. Yes, there's a bunch of them. I'd love to see something like that, because I mean there's a few like AI stuff that's like, ah, crap, I fell for that, but it's usually pretty quickly I've got it. Oh no, that's not real, you know, yeah, if I can find one. I'm still trying to find that other Bigfoot film from a train video because that's the title of the newest one that came out. So it's like everywhere, you know. So I'm already on like the fourteenth page of Google, which starts getting into some really dangerous territory. Yeah. You know, you get that deep into a Google search and you're really just not You're not getting what your keywords are. You know how they can uh yeah, yeah, here it is. H yep, TikTok removes viral video ads. I suspected Joe and AI clips. Yeah, people are using Joe Rogan to make clips of like advertising their shit they're trying to sell. Yeah, fucked up. Here's shoot, here's one. Oh cool, friends, I've got something new to tell all of you. I've decided to sponsor a hockey team made up entirely

20:30 of chips, and tired of people telling me that chimps are not capable of kicking human ass and sports chimps are just superior athletes. And these chimps have been working out hard, the throwing kettlebells, battle ropes, everything. I've got them on a strict diet of bone broth and elk meat. These chips will rip your balls off. Goddamn, it's impressive. All I got to say is see you on the ice, folks. That's great. Being a robot has its benefits. I can pronounce tongue twisters. Now check this out. Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers? How many pickle peppers did Peter Piper pick? She sells sea shells on the seashore. The shells she sells our seashells. I'm sure. Also, since my brain is connected to the Internet, I've become a medical expert. Did you know that basilla membrane?

21:15 I know? Tallerantology are not auto correlations. Wow, Joe Rogan, it's me Joe Rogan. Please come save me. Man. These artificial intelligence guys have trapped me in a machine. What the fuck I've never told this story before, but on Thanksgiving weekend, I was doing a set at the Comedy Store and some idiot ran up on stage. He comes up to me during the middle of my set and tells me that we are in a simulation. The guy was dumped out of his mind. He was so drunk that he couldn't stand up straight. So we all laughed at him and let security escort amount. But now that we have deep fakes and fake voices and starting to believe that we're not far off from simulations after all, I mean, this is what I'm talking about. Yeah, age now. And then there was like that one like they've been going around with musicians and changing like what if what was the one? Uh James Hetfield Uh played Britney Spears or there's a few like that. Yeah, like and it actually it like sounds like his voice doing the lyrics of that song. There was another one where it was I think it was Creed doing a Metallica song, but it was like Metallica playing it. The video was Metallica, but James sounded like Scott's staff.

22:41 Wow, it's crazy extra right, yeah, with your arms wide open. No, this is the we've entered though. This is this? Is it? So anything that was difficult to prove before, just pile the ship on now, because you know what I mean, I saw there's people putting together AI stories. Uh you know what. Actually I actually saved something to show you guys about this. Uh hold on, and you know what, be honest with you. If this, uh if this rubs some people the wrong way, well I don't really give a shit. Hang on, I want to say, let me bring it up here. You guys have obviously heard of chat GPT, right, yeah, okay, so it's the biggest AI out there, or at least the most popular one. Okay, and I want to show you guys something real quick here. Let me share my screen. Now, this is fucking scary. Okay, do you guys see this? That's a house telephone guys, yeah, you have just that's a

24:15 Krypti Twilight soon all right, So check GPT. All right, So open this bad boy up right and okay, here it does. Yeah, I save these. Okay, look, paranormal encounter all right, let me scroll up real quick. Uh where's that here? Yeah? I told I asked it to write me encounter stories about big Foot and dog Man Okay, look at this. It produced this for those listings, I'll read it to you, dear your name here. I wanted to share with you an incredible experience I had while camping in the remote wilderness. Last summer. My friends and I embarked on a weekend getaway to a secluded area known for its untouched natural beauty. Little did we know that we would become part of a tale that would challenge our perceptions of reality. As the sun dipped below the horizon, we gathered around the campfire, sharing stories and laughter. The night was crisped, the shower was shining brilliantly overhead. As we settled in for the night, an unusual rustling in the bushes caught our attention. At first, we dismissed it as a small animal, but the sounds grew louder and more distinct.

25:32 Our flashlights eliminated a towering figure that emerged from the shadows, an enormous creature covered in dark hair, standing upright like a man, but undeniably not human. Frozen in all intrepidation, we washed as the creature locked eyes with us. Its gaze held a mix of curiosity and caution, as if it were studying us as intently as we were studying it. The forest seemed to hold its breast, its breast, its breath, as the majestic being lingered on our fringes, on the fringes of our campsite. After what felt like eternity, the creature turned and vanished into the woods, leaving us speechless and exhilarated. Our encounter with what could only be described as Bigfoot left an undeniable mark on our souls, a reminder that the mysteries of nature are far greater than we can comprehend. If you ever find yourself venturing into the great outdoors, keep your senses of tuned to the hinded wonders that may reveal themselves in the most unexpected moments, Wishing you alive, filled with extraordinary discoveries, warm reguards fill in the blank there. Now, what gets me about this is that it's the way these ais work is they pull samples of writing that's already out there. Right so, even though this put this together, you know, basically pull all this like a seal and put it together right here,

27:03 you are getting snippets of shit that people wrote that was already out there. So when you hear some of these stories and you go, oh, god, you know, that's that's really similar to something that I that I heard before, or maybe even something that I may have experienced now in the AI age, the chances are that you yourself may have contributed to what this story is telling, and we've lost all ability to filter this. The only thing I can think of is that without face to face interview now, at ninety five percent or more, I'd say I'd almost put it to ninety nine percent of these written in internet stories, you really can't trust them. It's too far now. So I wonder, I wonder how many any platforms are using this to create content as we speak, or have been. I'll be honest with you, My gut feeling is telling me a lot, right, a lot, because you know, it's like we've been doing this a little while, and you know, the guests and the emails aren't exactly flooding in now, but other platforms that have been doing it just as long have have write in our guests every single week, and they don't have the downloads that we

28:38 do. You know, It's like I've always, I really have thought that there's a couple of them out there that it's like they're writing script and they're just giving somebody twenty bucks to read it. Okay, So I agree with what you're saying right there. And the reason the reason that i'm I think you're debt, you're right on the money, is because there's a there's a couple of well knowns out there, and one in particular that I I I unfortunately made a study of for a while, and uh, I started to I'll be honest with you, I started to type out phrases, little little nuances right kind of like, uh, okay. You might run into somebody in your lifetime that talks to you and they they might say, for example, they might use the term for example m hm, and you could be like, oh, well it's because of this for example, and then they'll explain something. But you might notice that the next person you talk to doesn't say it that way. They might say, for instance, okay, now, in this one content creator that I was studying, let's just say, because I don't want to I don't want to cause any whatever. Right now,

30:08 once I got the whole thing put together, I'm gonna I want to blast it out there. But for right now, let's just say that every single story said for example, right, and that was one of like fifteen little phrases, little nuances in the writing. There was multiple compiling. And only thing when I when I see that, because no two of us talk exactly alike, we don't, you know, we all have our own spins on the way we communicate. And that's that's for human that's that's us, you know. And every single story that I was hearing had the same little nuances and phrases that they were using. And the only thing I kept thinking was is that. Okay, so either you have the same author and different people reading like you said, which I think is very very plausible. Actually, that's a pretty good business model if you think about it, because you think you go go to the downloads, right, two hundred and fifty thousand downloads for an episode, Okay, you could afford to pay somebody one hundred bucks to read something. That's actually I mean, profits would be soaring, right, yeah, I mean even I mean you could create pseudonyms and easily even if you were only paying twenty or thirty dollars for somebody to read something

31:40 on a phone, you know, I mean you're talking, if you're talking to you. You say, okay, like if I give you forty bucks, I want you call in. You're this person, and I want you to read this story and I'm going to read along with you, and we're going to write and do this as a script. Yeah you know, and if you do it, well, I'll give you forty five bucks. Yeah. Well, Tadah, you have just had somebody make you know over forty dollars an hour when me and you went up to uh to Goshen and we we stepped in and did some voice work for a for Told Fiction. Yeah. How they do their episodes was actually like a missing piece of this puzzle to me, because they are a creative podcast, right, They're not.

32:23 They're not on the chopping block at all here, So don't I gotta want anybody to get that idea? No, no, no, They're making a fun fictional podcast and the fucking title is Fortoldiction. Yeah, they're not trying to put on