Sept. 28, 2023

S369 - What is the golden ratio???

S369 - What is the golden ratio???

In this episode we discuss ancient architecture, and the universal code - the golden ratio. Watch Denny get his mind blown.

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In this episode we discuss ancient architecture, and the universal code - the golden ratio. Watch Denny get his mind blown.
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With your hosts Dennis Mays, Tyler
Stewarts, and to Josh Gibbs. Don't

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dot com And now onto our show. I think, uh, I mean

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considering that like down there, you
know, the more south you get,

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the more interesting the architecture gets.
Right, you think that there's something there's

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something to that. I mean,
you go the farther south than in those

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places you go, especially going into
like the aged cultures, they weren't just

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building little like towns and like hobbles, they were building fucking pyramids in the

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jungle. Like I can't imagine being
that being easy, you know what I

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mean? Right, you get it's
something there's something to that, considering that

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you're a person that makes things you
know, up here in difficult places.

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Not no, I mean you know
that that makes sense, you know the

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thing with Okay, So that's where
me and a friend of mine work actually

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had a conversation similar to this.
Yeah, and he's he's Mexican. Hell,

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he's going to be on the show
eventually, And he was asking what

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I thought about like the pyramid stuff
and Aliens, because you know, there's

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pyramids all over it. Yeah,
And my thought on it is it's rather

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insulting to the people that built the
stuff to assume they couldn't have built it,

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you know what I mean, Like
you're taking the talent out of their

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hands or putting it in something supernatural. The there's a theory out there that

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all of those structures are much much, much older than we thought, and

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like the Egyptians didn't actually build the
pyramids, that they found them, all

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right, Yeah, the same with
the pyramids and South America and all that.

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And the thought behind it is is
that there was like a cataclysmic event

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that kind of boomed everybody back into
another stone or bronze age yea, which

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is to me more realistic than Aliens
came down and showed them how to stack

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rocks. Because that doesn't make a
fucking bit of sense. Yeah, it

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doesn't. It's it's hard to get
behind, that's for sure. Yeah,

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it doesn't make any sense because there's
there's no outcome to it to where it

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makes sense. Yeah, what would
be the point I do this all the

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time, with all of these theories
I always skipped straight to that, Well

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what's the point, you know,
like, why would why would they do

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it? Yeah, And that's the
way you have to do. You got

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to look at the end result,
yeah, and work backwards and see if

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it makes sense. So I think
that there's a possibility that something like that

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happened. You know, they're every
single culture has a great flood story.

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Yeah, you know, so what
if there was a cataclysmic event that really

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did push everybody back to a bronze
or a stone age and people with so

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much more technology prior to that,
maybe, you know, I mean that

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shit can happen. I think,
you know, especially if you're already you

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know, if you're pre industrial,
you know, there's no automation whatsoever.

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Everything is manually done. Your pre
industry, you know, you don't even

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have rudimentary machines. And somebody comes
along or something comes along and does something

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like that, you know, an
asteroid hits the ocean or something, not

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enough to kill a planet, but
enough to set everything back. Yeah,

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I don't see that. I don't
see that as being out of the question,

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right, especially if you know,
if it was something that geographically speaking,

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there was a downfall of people that
were maybe higher up on the intelligence

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or wealth or whatever levels. You
know, like if if the event caused

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it to where anybody that lived in
this region was wiped out, and maybe

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the lesser knowledgeable, the less smart, the under educated survived because they weren't

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in this area. Like say,
like if waterfront property was always something for

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the wealthy, the intelligent, the
rich or whatever, and the floods happened

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and killed all of them, then
we're left with all the highlanders. Okay,

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yeah, you know, and then
we've got all this stuff and they

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don't know how it's made. I
see, that makes sense to me,

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right, yeah. And I've like
I've always marveled at I mean, and

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they still believe there's still structures down
in South America that haven't been discovered yet.

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Oh yeah, there's still structures that
are just undiscovered. And it's like

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you, when I look at it
and I look at the like the actual

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geographic location of those structures, I
can't help but to be like, God,

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these people were such badasses that they
literally built this ship in like probably

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the most difficult place possible, and
they made it look easy because these structures

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are absolutely like let me pull up
a couple real quick and show people because

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if anybody's out there is not familiar
with these, and oh my god,

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you're you're missing out because this ain't
I mean, this ain't just like,

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hey, you know, we're piling
up some rocks and we're you know,

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I'll tell you what. I'm just
gonna share my screen because I don't want

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to. I don't feel like they
want through the whole thing of you know,

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trying to get the pictures or whatever. You guys see this, Yeah,

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check out this stuff, man like
that like that that is not just

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hey, we're just we're just gonna
pile up some rocks. That is geometric,

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yeah, like it has symmetry,
you know, it was it was

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planned and built, you know,
right. These folks were not you know,

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they weren't just throwing some mud and
sticks together. They were you know,

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these were architects. These were a
laboring people that built these. They

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were cutting and forming stone. Yeah, I mean, look at this.

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I love this too. If you
if you look at out you know,

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like look at thee like the comparisons
and whatnot, right, And you know

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the thing about it is is,
yeah, they all look alike and they're

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the people try to say that,
you know, aliens came down and told

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them, but it doesn't take long
to figure out a triangle is a form.

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Yeah, but I always like I
was just like thinking this too.

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It's like, okay, is there
ever a possibility because possibility that they could

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have made this like the structure like
think of like like a sun dial have

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a top point and then a shadow
casts down. Don't you think they could

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have like mimic the shadow and stuff
and made a pyramid out of that,

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like you get one say, like
everybody's like, oh man, like it's

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so symmetrical and this that and the
other thing. Like there's primitive ways to

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actually make it pretty pretty accurate if
you follow it. I would you guys

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see this this picture too. I'm
gonna leave it up on there. Yeah.

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But now I like what Tyler's saying
though, I oh yeah, that's

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kind of my thought exactly. It's
like they use what they have, They

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use what they have, and they
excel. You know. Some of the

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some of the synchronicities are are interesting, like like that one. The comparison

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of those those three with the very
similar doors that you know, I want

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to stay similar. But they looked
the same to me. I'm not a

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builder, you know what I mean. I'm sure Josh could probably point out

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like a lot of stuff with it, but I'm not a builder like you

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know, No, I know exactly
what you're going with right there and it

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Okay, So, yes, they're
incredibly similar. Out of the question that

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they were done by the same people. Maybe they were worldly people, maybe

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they were able to travel. That's
kind of what I was going to get

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at is if the events did happen, what if they were seafaring people and

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they had vessels that they could get
out. But one of the things you

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got to realize too, is that
there's like an unconscious thing that happens with

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humans, especially anybody that's in art
or design, right, And it's called

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the golden ratio. Okay, right, So the golden ratio is what causes

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things like that symmetrical entrance to make
sense. Okay, I don't think I

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think I'm familiar with this, but
I don't know. Let's see here,

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I'll tell you what. Let me
share my screen. Okay, I'm sorry.

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I love this shit like this,
This stuff is so interesting to me.

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Okay, so you see this is
this right here is the golden ratio,

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right, okay, okay. The
golden ratio is this loose spiral that

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occurs that we put in everything we
do. You see where you've got the

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small and then everything grows by thirds, right, Okay, we do this

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naturally because it looks right with everything. If this is si people, people

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a little, my wife talks about
a lot. It's very similar, very

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similar. So if you look here
at this one right here, so I

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can pull this up, this is
all part of the golden ratio. It

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just exists and we use it constantly. We've used it everywhere. So the

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three pyramid windows has the same ratio
as the colosseum here, you know,

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has the same ratio as the portions
of the side of a pyramid, as

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the human face, as the seashell, as our ear. You know.

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It's it's pretty wild how it works. It's interesting, but it's one of

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those things that it just exists in
nature and people see it without knowing they're

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seeing it, and they'll like it. Okay, let's sake offense more.

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Just on the golden ratio here.
That is that is fucking fascinating. Yeah,

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see, this is this is not
what I thought I understood at all

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this I'm literally learning right now,
right, Wow, well, this article

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is going to say all kinds of
dumb stuff trying to get us to it

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right here. See like this painting, This is what I was trying to

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pull up. Was just this picture. This painting and this painting both follow

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the Golden ratio. Okay, on
our screen, we're still looking at your

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search results. Oh okay, I
don't know if that, Yeah, I

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wouldn't let me do that. Let's
see this one maybe if I click on

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that. Nope, okay ah,
so yeah, like this, can you

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see this is it? Okay?
The golden ratio starts here and works this

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way out and everything falls into that
arc. The same with the Mona Lisa

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okay right, the same with the
side of the human face. Wow right,

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the same as somebody playing on a
keyboard all day, which that picture,

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that picture instantly made me fix my
posture. But even in like art,

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like the Apple logo follows the Golden
ratio, the Twitter logo where we

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used to be Twitter follows the Golden
ratio. Butterflies follow the Golden ratio.

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I can't fully explain to you why, Yeah, we are drawn to it,

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but I mean, like see how
out of that's a great ye there

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see, how like if it doesn't
fall into the golden ratio, how wild

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it gets and how it's weird it
is. So that being said, that's

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why that's why all these pyramids are
similar, is because one, architecturally speaking,

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a pyramid is strong as hell.
Right, two symmetry falls in the

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golden ratio thirds. Everything's you know, when you start making a big door

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in two windows, the big door
should be a third larger than the two

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windows, which is exactly what you
had. That's how symmetry works. Like

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everything split down the middle of mirrors
of it, and we just like it

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when we see it, and it's
I'm more in content into it because I'm

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obsessed with symmetry. Yeah, I
mean, I mean it makes sense in

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your line of work. I mean
you kind of I can't see that ever

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being a setback, right, I
mean right, yeah, there's I know

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there was like there were certain vehicles
that came out in the two thousands there

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were asymmetrical on the back and I
would actually change lanes and go around just

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to get away from it because it
was ving minute. Yeah, completely,

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I understand that. That's why I
don't look at fencing when I go past

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m yeah, my uh my,
my brain goes goes absolutely insane when I

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put fencing in. It's it.
It's ridiculous. Like I if there's a

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t post out of whack, I
pull it and I move it. It's

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like I can't stand it. Right. But yeah, that's that's really that

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is really fucking interesting. I'd never
heard of that before. God damn,

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I wonder if the folks like that
are watching this right now. I wonder

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if they go, huh, I'll
be damned, you know what I mean?

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La, did you know anything about
this stuff? I yeah, I've

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heard of it, but I've never
took the time, like I didn't know

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it was actually damn that big of
a thing. This is literally me So

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there you go. Here's some here's
some more examples of it. Because it's

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like I said, it's not just
in the Pyramids. I mean, the

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taj Mahal follows the golden ratio.
Wow, you know is that's that's the

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Notre Dame right? Yeah, yeah, that follows the Golden ratio. Here's

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the question for you. Do you
think that the golden ratio is universal?

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Like do you think this is something
that might occur throughout the universe or is

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it just like, you know,
kind of affixed here on on our planet

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with us as a species, like
this is species central not you know what

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I mean? My guess is yeah, that exists completely outside of our species

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because the galaxy. Holy shit,
dude, wow, I don't know how

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I didn't piece that one together at
all at all. So this is this

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is like literally a universal thing?
Yes, yeah, that is mind blowing.

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The world lives by the golden ratio. Now okay, I have to

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There's just no way I cannot mention
this one. Okay. If this is

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a universal thing, all right,
it looks like it is. I mean

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to me, it looks like blueprints, like, Okay, here's the universe,

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here's how this is going to lay
out. Everything will follow this.

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So how how do we, like, how do you argue this? Like

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what would it be? Would this
have been included in the planning or would

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this just be it happens to it's
thing that just happened, because it almost

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seems too perfect to be random,
right that. And I've told people this

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before, like, look, if
you believe in create you know, creators

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and all that stuff, I respect
it I'm on the fence. I think

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maybe something could have put it together. I just have a hard time thinking

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that it stuck around them, that
it gives a shit. That's my whole

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issue. It's nothing else, you
know what I mean. Yeah, just

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when I see stuff like that.
You know, I want you to know

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one thing though, that this may
or may not help as far as aliens

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go. Yeah, the only one
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So I don't know if that helps
or not. That's I don't I

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don't think that's a good one.
That's not a good one to right.

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I don't feel like that's a you
know, you could just say that they

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designed it around that too. I
mean, if you if you look at

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pictures the aliens, if an alien
doesn't fit the golden ratio, then it

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probably doesn't exist or did it make
it? Hm? You know what I

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mean. Creating a system that you're
not really a part of it is kind

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of a what if? What if
the golden ratio is what's behind all of

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like the religious all the different religions
where they say, you know, the

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gods have us and their own likeness. Yeah, what if the golden ratio

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is what is meant by that,
you know, that'd be what I'd be.

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I could accept it, like I
would be okay with it, right,

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I mean the golden ratio might be
God, it could. That's the

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That's always been a thing too,
is that? What if there is some

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kind of creation you know power that
created things, But what if it operates

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on a different thing, like it's
not it's not coming to give you,

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you know, the winning lottery numbers. What if it's sole design, its

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sole purpose is to just create,
you know what I mean? It would

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sure answer a lot of things for
me personally. I don't know about how

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you guys feel about that, but
I just I see a universal thing like

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this that just exists everywhere, you
know, and I can't help it go

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wow. You know. Compound that
with with the you know, the what

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is it the uh you know,
all of the different different types of electrons,

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protons, neutrons, things like that
that are all quantized, they're all

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pre programmed to do what they do. That's startling in my opinion, right

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because that's you know, anything that's
been quantized or programmed. That's that's the

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that that falls into the fine tuning
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mean, I know, I know
most religious isn't happy with the fine tuning

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theory because they don't like the implications
of it. But it technically does argue

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for the existence of a powerful force
that made things happen. You know,

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how strange would it be if the
powerful force was a mathematical equation? I

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think that it would make total sense. I mean that's like a universal language,

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right, right, So, I
mean, in my opinion, that

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would be I could accept that as
an answer if they came to me and

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said, this is this is what
it was. This was it was a

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mathematical equation, you know, rooted
in you know, the golden ratio,

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and somehow it quantized everything to do
everything that it does and the sole purpose

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is to create. Yeah, But
then in that I would still have another

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question to ask who who put the
pen to paper? What put the pen

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to paper on this? Who worked
it out? Did it just happened?

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Is it possible for it to just
happen? It's like one of those infinite

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questions. It's like it's self defeating
because of its size. Like I feel

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like you're you're just you'd just be
chasing your tail forever on that one,

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right, which incidently chasing your tail
would kind of kind of resemble the ratio

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I think, right, Yeah,
fascinating, man, Wow, I think

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I'm gonna be thinking about this ship
all day now. Yeah, that's fucking

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that's incredible. It basically falls under
you know, your your rule of thirds.

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So if you if you take a
drawl, a square or a rectangle

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rather, and you split it into
two thirds one third, and then you

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split that into two thirds one third, and then that into two thirds one

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third, and you start drawing your
spiral to catch all your points, that's

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your golden ratio and that's what creates
it. And then you can just start

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putting that over top of things,
so you adjust your square to fit over

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whatever it is, and while it
fits, that's yeah, that's incredible.

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And at all these pyramids, these
structures, these amazing just architectural achievements of

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prehistory. Basically I'll follow this universal
rule that's still being followed today. That

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that's mind blowing to me. Like
I don't feel like I'm smart enough for

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this, you know what I mean? Like I just don't feel smart enough

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for it, Like I'm it makes
me feel small, right, like it

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makes me feel small too. And
the only reason I even have the slightest

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amount of context for it is because
of construction, because I see it,

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you know, I because a lot
of times when they don't know what to

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do on something, they asked,
well, you want you guys just do

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that, you know. Yeah,
And it's really unnerving because that it's like,

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oh great, if I design something, what if they don't like it?

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Then I got to build it again. You know. Let's be here.

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If I could say this image,
this image right here is a really

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good and that's a p and G. I can't do that crap. You

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know, it's weird talking about this
stuff, especially like this this, you

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know, the the implication that think
the golden ratio could be some kind of

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like universal code for creation. And
yet I read a metaphor about a powerful

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creative force that happened to be a
carpenter. Right, weird somebody actually was

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a builder. Yeah, So I
always I've always suspected that a lot of

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these ancient texts were code for for
something, or maybe them trying to describe

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I have things that they were seeing
and that they were experiencing, you know,

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in a way that would make sense
that I don't know. Fascinating.

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Here we go. I've got one
that I can show. I can make

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it big and make it explained the
parthenon all right, Oh wow, there

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you go. So that gives you
an exact example of the golden ratio of

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how it works. Now, I
wish you guys could see my mouse.

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But if you look the smaller portion
of the thirds to the left of the

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screen, you notice how the band, the corners band that goes directly above

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the columns. Yeah, right,
that fits into that third damn near perfectly,

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right, yeah. And then the
decorative piece that goes right across that

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it's almost like almost like dental mold
that runs across the top of that falls

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directly into that as well. Right. Then you have your your overhang,

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the eyebrow of the building right that
hits directly at that point, okay.

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And then from side to side,
the large swoop goes all the way across

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and it touches from the left of
the building to the basically to the right

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of the building. You know where
if you if you ignore the overhangs on

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the sides, and then the crest
at the top where the peak would have

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been, you know it hits the
top part of that other third. Okay,

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so that's that's where the rule of
thirds work on the golden ratio right

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there. Pretty wild and that is
really wild. Yeah, for for the

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sake of fund, Josh, And
I know that you you love this.

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I found this and I'm gonna throw
it up here for you. I think

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you'll appreciate this. M right.
Yeah, So I don't know. Yeah,

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it's interesting right at mind blowing.
Like I knew nothing about this,

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so it's incredible to me. I
fucking love when I get to teach you

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something. Oh it's fucking that awesome. I'm like, you're a great student

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because you're like, oh, oh, tell me more. Oh yeah,

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dude, Like that's I knew nothing
about this. I like, I know.

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My wife's photographers, so she constantly
talks about the rule of thirds,

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and whenever she gives me a camera, she says, I have a tendency

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to always do the rule of thirds, right, And it's just because I

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like the way it looks, you
know, I like the way the rule

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of thirds looks when you're taking pictures
and stuff. She's like, well,

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you you always do the rule of
thirds every time you take a picture.

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She's like, yeah, I don't
think you can help it. I think

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you just you're drawn to it.
So I'd heard the rule of thirds,

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I just never heard the golden ratio
before. That's that's why it's interesting to

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me. And the fact that so
many things that you like, you've shown

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us with all these designs, bit
it so perfectly is mind blowing to me.

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Yeah. And I'm a monster when
it comes to learn and shit like,

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I can't I can't stop once once
it starts. Yeah, I have

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to understand. I've got another one
for you, and this is this is

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really wild. Wow. The only
question I would have on this one is

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is that does that occur no matter
where you stand? Like? Does that

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fit? I mean I guess it
would, right, you could adjust that

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ratio no matter where you were standing
when you took that shot, right,

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I would think. So, Yeah, the further out you get, the

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further everything gets away. It's not
like it's not like moving the sphinx center

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out, you know. Yeah,
that's pretty wild. I mean, if

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you did a side view of them
together, I feel like they would fit.

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Still. I bet I bet they
would bet you if you laid it

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down that the sphinx would fit in
that Golden Spiral if it was laid down

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as well. Yeah, that's wild. That's unbelievable, fucking cool stuff.

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Man, it really is, man. And there's people I do think that

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the Golden or the Golden Spiral or
the Golden ratio and all that's overrated and

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that it's forced perspective. But I
mean, if it fits, it fits,

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you know. Yeah, whether or
not, whether or not it's you

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know, overrated or doesn't make sense, is moot because it just fits,

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you know. Yeah, and so
many of us appreciate things that just so

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happened to fall on that, right, Yeah, you know that's probably why,

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like things that are atypical, like
you're what they the uncanny Valley stuff.

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Oh yeah, it's that's probably why
that is so unsettling because it falls

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out, okay, and then we
we automatically are are like, well like

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mistrustful of it because it doesn't fit. Our eyes are in our mind are

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wanting. Right, that's pretty wild. I have, you know, I

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have experienced human beings that gave me
the uncanny Valley feeling. I know this

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sounds mean, and I don't mean
to be, but yeah, I encountered

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a person I can say with one
percent certainty that that person literally gave me

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the feeling that they were not human, right, And it was so weird.

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And I think I told you guys
about it. I don't want to,

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like, you know, slander somebody
on the show or anything of the

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sort, but I think I've told
you guys about it. It's been a

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couple of years, so you know
what I mean. But yeah, I've

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had that feeling before the Uncanny Valley. I just didn't know what it was

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called at the time. I just
know it gave me the creeps big time.

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Right. It was so weird,
man. You know. It was

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like, I don't like what I
would U expect if you met a vampire,

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what it would feel like, you
know, like your own like interpreting

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you whatever, interpreting your own feelings
of meeting something that just didn't fit,

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you know, into that nice neat
you know whatever. It was wild.

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I know we've let it. We've
let this one run on for a while.

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I have a story here. I
wanted to tell you guys a little

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bit about it. Was a suggestion
from one of our listeners. And if

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you guys ever heard of this,
because I'd never heard of it before it

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is cursed grapestone of Carl Pruitt,
Pulaski County, Kentucky. No, all

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right, so I don't I'm not
not going to claim to be an expert

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in this, having just learned about
this recently myself. But let me let

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me kind of give you guys a
little rundown and see what you see,

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what you think about this, because
it's I think it's pretty wild, okay.

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Uh. Happened in June nineteen thirty
eight, Pulaski County, Kentucky.

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This guy, Carl Pruett, Now
he had a reputation for being had he

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had a bad temper, put it
that way, right. He was kind

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of a violent man, kind of
a you know, easy to go off

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the handle. Apparently, or I'll
say allegedly. He had arrived home one

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afternoon and found his wife in bed
with another man. Now, you could

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probably put two and two together right
and say that something bad happened. Let

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me take you through that. Carl. Uh. He didn't just you know,

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pull a pistol and whatever. He
took a chain and he wrapped it

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around his wife's neck and he strangled
her to death with it. All right,

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Moments after he was done pull He
did pull his pistol and he shot

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himself in the head. Now,
the other man, the other man in

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this, he escaped out of a
window just in time, so he got

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away, all right. So Carl, once Carl knew that that he'd done

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something terribly, he took his own
life. Okay. So it goes on

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a little bit here. Apparently after
this was all said and done, his

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wife's parents, she they refused to
have him laid to rest next to next

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to his wife, next to their
daughter. Right, so they had had

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him buried as far away as they
could in a completely different cemetery, all

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right. According to the legends,
though, Carl's temper was not done and

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he never did get laid to rest. Uh. So, basically, people

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have noticed around the grave site of
what it looks like chains burned into the

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ground in the grass, like the
pattern of the chain. And this is

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a reoccurring thing people of people have
seen over time or whatever. Okay,

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So this takes us to another part
of the story. Man named James Colin,

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okay, uh, Okay. So
there was a group of children that

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were being led by a mister James
Colin had accused each other of being scared

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of the gravestone, of of of
the man in question here, right,

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So I guess what had happened was
they'd even accused James or whatever. He

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denied it that he was afraid,
and he even threw rocks at the grave

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to prove that he wasn't scared.
Right, Okay, So the stone,

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one of the stones had hit the
gravestone and it broke a piece off.

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Nothing happened, and these these kids
and everybody kind of just jumped on their

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bicycles and ran off or wrote off. Right, all right, so what

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what what happened next is kind of
weird? Okay? Uh, this this

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man James, in a freak accident. The chain on his bike had snapped,

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flipped his bike bike over with him
on it. When everybody got to

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him to see if he was okay, he was dead, the bike chain

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snapped and wrapped around his neck,
strangling him to death. What the fuck?

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Right? Yeah? Okay, So
when they you know, the boys,

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they told everybody what they were doing, what had happened? You know

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that that he took them to the
gravestone, they saw the chip or whatever.

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That's the other thing is later on
the broken off piece of the gravestone

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wasn't there anymore. The gravestone was
intact, all right. So James's mother

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believed the boys, and she sought
revenge. He gets the spirit of Carl.

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She took an axe herself, and
she smashed the gravestone in the pieces.

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She was satisfied with her efforts.
Once she was satisfied with her effort,

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she left the cemetery, and that
was literally the last time anybody'd ever

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seen her alive. She was found
the next day, strangled to death from

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a closed line where she accidentally tripped
and entangled herself in it. A lot

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of people believe that this is the
spirit of Carl Pruitt, and you know,

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basically what he'd found when he'd found
his gravestone to be desecrated. He

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sought revenge. This was on and
on all right. Now. I realized

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that there there are synchronicities that can
they could pile up on certain things.

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I've got a great list of them
for you guys on a future show.

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I'm not ready to announce anything yet, though, uh I can't help but

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wonder how many of these legends are
embellished or if it's just syncret you know,

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synchronicities that just seem to line up. If in fact, and I

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plan on digging more into this,
if in fact, I find that each

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one of these persons did die the
way it says, that's going to be

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interesting. I'll say that if they
really did all strangle to death, Because,

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like I said, I know our
shows running a bit long right now,

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so I didn't want to go into
this. I have a list as

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long as my arm of things that
have happened in this county since this.

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So what I want to do is
I want to go forward and research every

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one of these and see if I
can figure out if this is real or

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if it's bullshit. But I wanted
to show you guys, like the tip

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of the story and see what you
guys impressions were. You know, I

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like it interesting in it Yeah,
and it's right here in our own home

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state. I'm a little ashamed of
myself, right, I've never heard of

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this before, so yeah, I
was actually looking it up. And he's

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known as the Killer Ghost. Yeah, yeah, I read that. That's

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awesome. So I want to definitely
want to do a big old shout out

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to our fan Ernie across the Pond
for pointing that out to us. I'm

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a little ashamed that he had to
point it out to us, right,

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but I'm glad he did because it's
fascinating. Before we end the show,

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I sent something to our private chat
on Facebook. I want to make sure

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you snag it up and put it
up here, so before we end,

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all right, let's see here and
grab it. Oh wow, Okay,

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that's a good way to go out. Ye all right, cool, let

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me stick this up here. Tyler's
gonna crack up unless he's already looked at

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it. He's already looked at it. Uh see if I grab the right

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thing here, yep. All right, Well, we're gonna end with this,

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guys, hopefully, hopefully I find
some more interesting stuff about mister Carl

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Pruitt and h I've definitely learned a
lot in this one, I will admit.

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So y'all take care of each other
out there, and I'm gonna show

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you this so we'll see you on
the next one, see you, guys.

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That's fu great, dude. I
didn't even have the size of it.

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I just popped it on there and
it was like, or you shouldn't

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make it. So we've been in
the gold Prasia,