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show. I'm talking about that.
I wish that we could get North Carolina

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Jake in on this because he was
the one that actually told me about it,

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so he has more information than I
do. But yeah, they they

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fucking lost an entire fighter jet.
There's videos that guys go into like the

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military barricades where the roads are blockaded, like, hey did you guys?

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You guys lose a fighter jet and
the military police are like arresting them as

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ship for you and asking, wow, yeah, I fighter jet you know

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is that the Okay, yeah,
that's the one that actually crashed. It

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crashed, right, m Yeah,
I saw I saw that video. Yeah,

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welcome back, guys, you're to
take Yeah, I'm trying to find

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trying to find the conversation Jake and
I had about it, because this was

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a few months ago, so it
may take me a minute to dig back

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here and find it. Yeah,
fighter, I mean like I could see

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loose your keys, right, yeah, Lucia keys somewhere. But yeah,

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they're just outside just clicking the panic
button. The fuck was that fighter jet

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we had there? Damn it?
Yeah? Trooper troop, Yeah, yeah,

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I'm trying to find it. Just
chatter amongst yourselves and I'll try to

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find the thing you sent me.
I just don't see how how the hell

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you could lose a whole fighter yet, but I mean everything's possible, right.

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We were just talking about how they
just found a bunch of oil one

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day. Yeah, back in the
day where they were like, oh,

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we're we're losing oil, we don't
have enough. It's funny you started talking

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about that because something came up that
I was reading, and I was actually

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reading an article or trying to read
an article based on this whole Elon Musk

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lawsuit against marketing advertisers and the whole
thing where they're like they had marketing ads

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that were following thea Nazi pages and
it was it was a whole it's a

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whole thing. But one of the
things that came up that I completely forgot

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about was when CNN rigged Chevrolet trucks
to blow up so that they could have

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a You don't remember that. I
remember watching the news and seeing this stuff

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on the news. Yeah, they
rigged the Now I'm going to say this,

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and when I say this, I
need you to look over your shoulder

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and make sure Scotty doesn't appear,
okay. But they rigged Square body Chevies

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to blow up so that they would
have this huge thing to talk about them

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being unsafe because back in the day, the gas tanks were on the outside

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of the frame. And yeah,
and while they couldn't get him to do

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it normally, they thought that just
because they thought it was going to be

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dangerous because the tank was outside the
frame, they decided to make this big

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thing about it. And then they
rigged the trucks to explode. Yeah,

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so that, Yeah, so CNN
would have a story. Wow. Yeah,

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shame on U, CNN. Yeah, and they had to they had

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to make a formal apology to General
Motors and retract it. But of course,

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you know, nobody saw the retraction
because the actual thing, their article

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or their videos they produced were everywhere
on every news article or in every news

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channel you flipped on. It was
Chevy trucks exploding on impact. I cannot

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find this conversation. I'm sorry,
I keep digging looking for it. That's

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crazy, but yeah, they yeah, yeah, well look it up.

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Look, look at a pull a
video up. I'm sure you'll find something.

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Okay, this was in the this
was in the eighties. It was

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the uh, it was either the
late eighties or the very early nineties.

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But the trucks involved were the seventy
three to eighty seven body style trucks.

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And CNN made all these really wild, outlandish videos. I mean, like

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we're talking like modern cinema, like
Michael Bay level stuff. You know.

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Yeah, they rigged him to explode. It was it says here it was

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NBC? Was it NBC? NBC
apology is a victory for GM as it

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seeks to battle potentially huge liability problem
in the automaker's legal and public Before I

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go any further than let me retract
my previous statement and apologize to CNN that

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that was not the shady thing that
they did. I'm sure there's other shady

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shit they did, but that was
not it. So NBC. Yeah,

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that's right, that's crazy. Yeah, I cannot find it anywhere. I'll

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have to look it up. But
yeah, if you pull a video up

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of it, I'm sure there's a
YouTube video. Those trucks be inside hitting

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the side and the fireball that ensues. Oh, let me see that happened

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with what was it the Gremlin or
Pento was the one you're thinking of.

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Yeah, it's the rear. Yeah, rear collision. Fucking just yeah.

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Is it just like the the sheer
force of the impact, like it can

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bust basically under the pressure of it
being squished like that, or maybe metal

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just sparking it. I'm not sure
what they're exactly. I was a kid,

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yeah, when the thing was going
on, So I just remember seeing

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truck steed up people I knew drove. I found the video of that.

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I found this guy that the guy
that was talking about the jet and he

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went to the town and as people. The guy that got arrested. But

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it's on a TikTok. That's not
it's not him. It's one of those

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people that literally takes videos from everybody
and they make tiktoks out of here and

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then they put their face in the
corner with all their oh no, no

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shit. I hate that people that
do tiktoks that do that need to stop?

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Nobody wants to see your stupid face. All right, hey you guy.

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Dateline NBC, a prime time news
program, air's a story in nineteen

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ninety two entitled Waiting to Explode.
The story includes footage demonstrating that a line

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of trucks produced by General Motives readily
explode on impact. To see by ourselves

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what might happen in a side in
pack crash, Dateline NBC hired the Institute

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for Safety Analysis to conduct crash demonstrations. Unlike GM tests, the fuel tanks

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were filled with real gasoline. Look
what happened at impact? A small hole

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was punctured in the tank. According
to our experts, the pressure of the

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collision and the crushing of the gas
tank forced gasoline to spew from the gas

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caps. The fuel then erupted into
flames when ignited by the impacting car's headlights.

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After the program airs, one of
the firemen at the taping of the

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crash contacts GF. The conversation inspires
a full scale investigation. Three months later,

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NBC is forced to reveal their role
in fabricating the news contracts, head

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put and sendiary devices under the trucks
to ensure that there would be a fire

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if gasoline were released from the trucks
gas tank. We said the crash quote

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forced gasoline to spew from the fuel
cap end quote. GM says since the

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gas cap was the wrong cap for
the GM piller tube, and because the

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gas tank was overfilled, the cap
came off when the impact occurred. We

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agree with GM that we should have
told our viewers about these devices. The

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dateline reporter, however, said,
quote at impact, a small hole was

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punctured in the tank. Unquote.
GM has now x rayed that tank and

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found no hole. We acknowledged the
placing of the incendiary devices under the truck

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was a bad idea from start to
finish. That's our new policy, and

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we'll be right back. Wow right, they are like, they're so good

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at that too. How do you
apologize for being a dick and make everybody

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else sound like the dick while you're
doing it. Yeah, we acknowledged that

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we could completely fabricated that. However, we also apologize for adding the stuff

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that we did there too. Mm
hmm yeah, but uh yeah, the

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I mean, let's talk about that. That that chain of events that they

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tried to pass off as true was
a small hole was punctured in the gas

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tank and the resulting headlight being uctured
on the car ignited that gas. That's

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now there's a lot of people out
there that doesn't understand gasoline or and and

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I understand. I understand that people
think that it's crazy volatile, and it

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is to a degree. But you
can put a cigarette out and a puddle

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of gas. Yep, it's not
the liquid that ignites. There's a reason

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why you can flood an engine.
It's the atomization that is what catches gas

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on fire. So in order for
that small puncture and that headlight, I

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mean, we're talking like a chain
of events that like you know, it

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would have to be just like this
absolute perfect storm where this tiny hole punctures

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in the gas tank and not only
does a puncture in the gas tank,

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but somehow manage the circum event the
bet of the truck right create an atomized

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stream that sprays into a broken headlight
where the elements are arcing, you know

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what I mean, Like try to
light a Zippo lighter in the wind.

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Yeah, you know, once it's
lit, yeah, you're good. But

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you know what I mean, it's
like just it's madness and they tried to

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pass it off and then, like
you said, try to make everybody else

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look like an asshole for calling them
out on it. Yeah. Like that's

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the thing that gets me is the
zero account of like, well, I

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mean we may have did this,
but you watched it, yeah, like

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what you believed it? Yeah?
Well, and and what we should do

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now this fuck just popped on my
head is I think that I should say

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NBC just like that, and you
should too, and then we should take

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that little clip that I just said
and go back and everywhere where I said,

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CNN just pop pop, Yeah,
because that's at it. I was

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reading six articles and every one of
them blended together. My apologies, I

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got my call letters wrong, but
yeah, no matter, that's what they

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get for having They all kind of
the same bullshit anyways. I mean,

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yeah, it's all a rhetoric.
It's everybody, go on, Tyler,

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we keep interrupting you. No,
I was just about to say that.

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I wonder if they actually didn't.
What about the Pinto, Like was that

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in an actual thing or like was
that a was that a news article about

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the pento exploited like the rear collisions
for it? Like, I wonder if

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that was. I think that the
Pento was legit, legit, Okay,

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yeah, I think the Pento,
the situation with the Pento, I think

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that it was so many fireball accidents
with that car that it caused the news,

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because wasn't that like around the time
Ralph Nader started getting involved. I

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can't remember, probably, I'm fucking
it, I don't remember. I don't

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even think probably when that When did
that start? Like in the eighties or

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nineties. I'm looking it up.
Oh, Ralph the Nator, the Tornator

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they used to call him, So, okay, did they no? The

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Pento thing was because there was thirty
eight individual fires were twenty seven fatalities.

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There's thirty how many thirty thirty eight
fires with twenty seven fatalities and twenty four

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non fatal burns resulting from the rare
collisions with pentos. So let's see,

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let's see if I can find anything. I can't find anything on the square

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bodies actually catching on fire. Talked
about the old Chevros. Yeah, yeah,

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fire fire catches them, they might
burn oil, but they they keep

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going. That's right. Yeah,
So I can't find anything explicit that says

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how many side impact fires were on
that but the Pento was, I believe,

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a legit concern, and I think
that is around the time rough Nader

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started getting involved and they changed seatbelts
and door latches and yeah it was yeah.

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He he really came in and made
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I think. I think that's when
it happened. You know, it's

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a funny thing about the square,
abouty square, about the Chevros. Uh,

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did you know that you can take
the engine out of it and still

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limp it to work the next Day's
because sixteen bald eagles will come out of

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the sky and push it to your
destination. Right that's in America eighteen if

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it's a three quarter ton. Yeah, yeah, I heard that they had

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to work on the exhaust because when
they first came out, the exhaust was

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kicking off F two tornadoes as it
went past. That's just what I heard.

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I don't I don't know. I'm
sure they would have covered that right

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now. The old Chevros. Yeah, it's amazing, Yeah, good times.

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But that's it though. That's this
is the news. It's the news.

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You know, you got to make
up shit if you're going to do

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the news. I just want to
know what they would have done, uh

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for to tell that lie. It's
like, yeah, these these Chevrolet is

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when they drive, when they they're
at like this certain speed and then next

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you know, they cut like do
a very shitty cut of another like like

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tornado in the background as they're passing
by. Oh man, Okay, So

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this isn't the only time that an
NBC that NBC has been caught lying.

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NBC. So Brian Williams was caught
lying about his experience in the War tar

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in Iraq. If you remember he
was talking to he lied about being shot

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at and being in a humbie or
something like that, and he was never

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never there. I remember this vaguely, but I can't think it's very like,

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I don't know, I remember hearing
so something about that, but that's

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kind of my solid face. I
probably remember it. That just reminds me

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of like the whole you know,
like, hey, didn't we grow up

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go to different schools together? Yeah, oh yeah, there's a whole meme

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on Brian Williams. Let's see if
I can, uh, you know,

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you made it. You did something
fucked up or something awesome. If you

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become a meme, there's no in
between. Have we been memed yet I

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don't believe I mean by by anybody, by our other than ourselves. There.

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It's awesome. Yeah, so he's
got a whole meme. You know

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what. I want to see one
of you guys out there that watch this.

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I want to see you meme us. Don't don't let me down on

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this meme the ship out of us. Let's see here. I can't wait.

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I feel like since I've like called
myself like a Neanderthal because of my

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forehead, somebody's gonna put this.
Remember those old Geico commercials. It's easy,

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Tyler can do it. Yeah,
like something. Fuck you, I'm

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gonna make that. It was a
helicopter. Brian Williams said he was in

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a helicopter. That's right, but
he was he wasn't in a helicopter army,

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that's what he said. He was. No, he was was supposed

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to be there reporting. Oh I
gotcha. Okay, that's I don't know

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that kind of seems, you know. Oh my god. He tried to

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say that his helicopter was forced down
by enemy fire in Iraq in two thousand

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and three, and a bunch of
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Nah, didn't happen. Man,
See that's bunny. I like that.

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I think it's interesting, mainly because
it's like, I think that calling

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these douchebags out over and over again
is probably the best thing you could possibly

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do. Yeah, did you ever
give her? I mean you go back

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to the beginning though. All right, you get national news, right,

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why do we need to know if
it has nothing to do with our like

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quality of life? Right? Why
do we? Like? Why do I

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need to know about a dude in
Florida? Uh, you know, the

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punched an old lady and stole her
dog. I don't need to know that.

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But the people of Florida should know
that because that dude lives there.

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They should guard themselves, guard their
old ladies, you know. But I

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like, did you ever notice that? Though? It's like with the news,

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it's like we thrive on there.
The more drama there is, we

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thrive on it. We need it. It's like we need to see horrible

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shit happening all over the planet and
it's terrible. Yeah, holy crap.

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Okay, so he tried to say
he was on a helicopter that was shot

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at by rockets and four helicopters had
to land in the desert, right.

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And another fellow who was actually on
the helicopter that was shot said that mister

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Williams helicopter was part of a different
mission and at least thirty minutes behind theirs.

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Wow, So he just kind of
he's kind of fudged the details a

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little bit there. Mister Somelon said
that, yeah, mister someone was one

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on the Ginek that was shot.
Wow, I mean shot at, not

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shot at you know, was he
was he over there? Was he in

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Iraq? Yeah, he was over
there, but he was he was thirty

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minutes behind in travel. Yeah,
But so he could say like, yeah,

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I was over there in a helicopter
and there was rockets being fired at

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helicopters and they had to land.
Right. As long as he said it

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quickly, he could probably get it. Could have got away with that right.

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Apparently that there was a lot of
a lot of military members that were

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over there that had been absolutely fed
up with his line for years and have

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tried to contact media outlets to get
him to stop. And nobody, nobody,

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petty attention. What it took was
is him getting on David Letterman talking

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about his events and on all these
veterans and pundits being like, Nope,

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didn't happen. I was on the
helicopter that was shot down. He wasn't

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ship. All right. Well,
while we're on the while we're on the

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topic of misinformation in news, mm
hmm, I have a question for you

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guys. I want your opinions.
We got a nice segue here, Yes,

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I'm gonna okay, I gotta get
a picture of a seg for this,

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just for so the last couple of
months, we saw the we saw

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the UFO disclosure, We saw the
Oversight Committee panel. You guys remember all

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that stuff. We I think we
watched the Oversight Committee on here. Yeah,

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yeah, the what's this David Grush? Yeah Grush or grouse Grouse and

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that other a pilot or something.
Wasn't there three there's yeah, there's several.

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I thought there was only three at
the place. My okay. My

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question that I wanted your guys opinions
on was when the topic of sege we

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got to keep that. See that
when the topic of how many cramps are

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in possession, they are not allowed
to discuss it, and they say it's

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a matter of national security. It's
it's classified. Now to me, When

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I hear that, I'm like,
not answering is a big goddamn answer here.

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But why do you guys think that
if the whole topic is in debate,

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it's it's a fifty to fifty debate
right now, whether or whether or

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not shit is going on and what
it is. Why would the possession or

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not put no possession of non human
crafts be top secret? Why would that

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be top secret if there's nothing now, that's my question and I've been I've

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been wrestling with this for like a
week, and I still haven't got a

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good answer. You got something,
Tyler, I kind of like because it's

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I see the head cocked. I've
I've always had this like, uh,

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I guess it's a conspiracy inside of
the like all this, I do believe,

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Like, in my opinion, I
still don't know if they're out there.

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I've never had an experience. I've
never really saw anything unexplained in the

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sky to give my my my opinion, like give it some weight and say,

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like, yes, I believe in
that. But I do believe that

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there's something might be out there.
But what I keep thinking is is that

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it's something that distracts us. This
is something that's unique in itself. Especially

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when the government's getting involved, you're
even more distracted. So they get I

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feel like every time when something like
this, big, like this happens,

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something unique, something that intrigues almost
everybody in the world, they give you

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bits and pieces. They might have
something, but they're not going to give

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you everything. And because if you're
a whistleblower, why are you fucking giving

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a shit what you say? You're
already I guess I don't know the proper

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term, but you're already technically screwed
because you're saying national national secrets, saying

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this already, So like, what's
another disclosing another one again? I think

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in the instance of David Grush,
though you're talking to government employed whistleblower,

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he's paid by one government agency to
figure out what the UAP phenomenon is.

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So even though he's whistle blowing,
he still has to follow the rules of

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that you know what I mean,
that are imposed to him by his agency

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and who he reports to. There's
some shit he's not allowed to talk about,

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but he's not like he's not like
you know, Fred in his basement,

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you know, with all his stuff
on the walls, like whistle blowing

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on his YouTube channel. He's like
actually employed by Congress to go do this

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shit, you know what I mean? And I get it that he I

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know there was a bunch of like
where his some of his some of his

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uh like his information that he has
and he has disclosed, especially him saying

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that there's multiple ships. He got
this information from somebody that's withinside the government

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and he doesn't want to disclose their
names because they are an employee of that.

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And the terrible thing about that too, Okay, something that top secret?

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What's the best You've always heard this, like saying, what's the best

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way to keep a secret between three
people kill the other two? Yes,

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So that big of a secret,
that big of a secret, you know

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for a fact, there's not that
many people that know. And him saying

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that that, they're like, you
know, the motherfucker that leads this fucking

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like secret group like looking around the
like cafeteria seeing like six people or something,

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which one of you motherfuckers said something
right like it's like it's an easy

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countdown. Even even on the uh
what he call it, even on the

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uh uverside committee. You he they
asked him, they were like and how

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many. You know, how many
crabs do you do you have? Or

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do they have? And he's like, uh, you know, I cannot

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discuss that in this forum, but
I would be willing to do. Uh.

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Why did they kept calling it?
I can't remember, like private,

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private consultation or something. Yeah,
provided that clearance was uh what he caught?

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Yeah, Like he kept saying that
that as long as their clearance was

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was good, he could he could
tell them. And I'm like, okay,

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you can't. You can't say that
to Congress unless it's true. You

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can't say I can tell you if
your clearance is good. You can't go

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in front of Congress and say shit
like that because you got ninety people that

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are probably going to be cross referencing
you and cross checking you and whatever and

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then end up in fucking what he
called, uh, perjury. I don't

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know. I'm just saying like that. It was weird to me because it

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was like there was details that were
given and then details that were not allowed

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to be given. And I'm like, like, man, it would have

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been better to say no comment.
I'm not a permit. I'm not able

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to answer that. Yeah, So
do me a favor because I want to

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make sure that I answered correctly.
Yeah, repeat the question in a bridge

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version for me, and I think
I have I think I have an answer.

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Okay. So during during these meetings, they would ask questions like how

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many crafts are in you know,
blah blah blah possession and he would say,

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I am I'm not allowed to answer
that in this forum because of you

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know, national security or whatever my
question was, and say, why answer

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like that, because to me answering
like that is a big goddamn answer.

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M hm, Okay, you know
what I mean. This was on a

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public stage, correct, Yeah,
viewable all over the world. Sure,

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they don't have shit, but they
don't want to look like they don't have

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shit in case somebody else does have
it, gotcha. That would be my

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assumption on this one. That's my
best guess is if they were to say

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three, you know, or two, then they're admitting to something that isn't

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true in court, and that would
be perjury. Yeah. If they say

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we don't have anything, then you
run the risk of another country, you

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know, looking like they have more
than you, looking like they have more

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information than you, and then all
of a sudden, another government seems more

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powerful in the public eye right if
you say I can't and answer that in

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this context, I need to make
sure you have clearance high up to get

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the information that on the public stage
you've said, yes we have them,

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but I can't say here what we
have? Okay? That makes yeah,

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I mean you know, That's That's
where I'm at with it is That's that's

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what I think it is. Is
they really don't have jack shit, but

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they don't want to look like they
don't have jack shit. Do you guys

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think that there's jack shit to be
had? I want to I don't want

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to say like they there could be, like cause I still I don't think

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they do. But yeah, that's
the thing I keep I've said this before,

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is that there's unexplained things that will
go on, and they don't want

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to look like they're not like because
the government is supposed to protect us from

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foreign invaders, like even if it's
from outer space basically, so if they

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don't know what's going on, what
are you like, like, like,

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who are you gonna puck it?
Like? Who's going to protect us?

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Like? They don't want to scare
the American people saying that they don't know.

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And when you say you don't know
as a leader, that's terrifying in

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itself exactly, So you have to
kind of fudget a little bit. M

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I think I think this is one
hundred one hundred percent psychological. I'm an

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aagreeants with Tyler on this one,
and I'll go one step further and say

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that the reason why, like say
Roswell, for instance, it was easier

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to make it look like a government
cover up than for an alien than an

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actual cover up for some sort of
a a war used tool, a tool

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for destruction. Right, So my
thought is that Roswell was actually US military

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equipment that crashed, right, It
was way to be like, let them

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all think it's an alien for two
three days and then come out and say

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no, it's a weather balloon,
because then everybody's like, well, this

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is an alien. They're covering it
up. Right. The thing we have

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to think about is is if there
is spacecraft coming from another world, it

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has the technology to get here.
If it has the technology to get here,

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it's not just going to show up
and crash. We have that technology

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to keep vehicles from crashing on the
road. Now, right, our drummer

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Dave, his car has an auto
drive feature when he puts it in cruise

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control. If it rolls up on
somebody doing forty five and he's doing fifty

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five, the car will automatically slow
down. We have that technology. How

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terrifying would it be to think that
these people are so much more advanced?

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It's easier to give them the false
hope that these are not that advanced.

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Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, there's no way you're gonna

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come from light years away from another
galaxy, another planet, another solar system,

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come to Earth and crash land.
It's just not gonna happen. If

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you have that technology, you have
far superior technology. Yeah, okay,

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I will say this too, like
yeah, I believe like one percent with

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Josh on that. But no matter
how advanced you are, accidents can happen.

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Like so if anything, they could
have a couple, but it like

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yeah, like he was saying,
like come on, like like we have

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cars that like literally have you seen
the Google car or whatever it was?

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It drives itself, Like you don't
need there's no driver or anything is you

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just get in it and drives itself. We shot a satellite and from Earth

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predicting the trajectory of a of a
I think it was a comet or an

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asteroid or something that was coming past
us, something in space, A rock

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was moving, predicting to trajectory of
it, landed it, took a soil

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sample, and launched back off of
it. We have that technology to do

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that, but we cannot go you
know, a manned craft any further than

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our moon, you know, So
think about that for a second, Like

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if we could do that, imagine
if somebody has the technology to come here

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like we can't. This is like, I know, this is sort of

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like dipping into like the religious part
of it. I don't think we can

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fully fathom what the abilities would be
of somebody that could make it here.

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I actually think that what you're saying
explains the uh, the gap between us

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right now trying you know, we're
skirting around trying to figure it out,

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and then whatever the hell that is
going on up there is that we've always

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assumed that first contact would be with
other beings that exist on our same three

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dimensional plane of existence. But we
know that the universe doesn't play by our

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rules. We're kind of stuck in
its rules, right, And that that

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would also explain why the government got
so interested in Oh God, what the

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hell is it called? It was
a whole program that it kicked off like

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two years before the disclosure stuff happened. Now, it has to do with

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the interdimensional engineering trying to figure out
like how to build machines that we could

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kind of peek and see things that
we're not able to now, you know,

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because they I mean, there's even
there's even what do you call it

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sciences and studies that say that we
might even be able to understand molecules that

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don't exist in our three dimensional and
we could figure out how that the how

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those are affecting us right now?
Right, you know, we're limited by

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what we have the technology for right
now, and our even our own physiology

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is limited to the three dimensional.
Yes, So my thought is is like

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if there's if there's lights in the
sky and there's crafts flying around, they

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probably don't have any because how the
fuck would you know what I mean?

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Right, that's like an ant trying
to catch a baseball. That's yeah,

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exactly, That's That's kind of my
point on it too, is like that

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would that would be the equivalent of
say, spider monkeys trying to collect the

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down F thirty five. Yeah,
you know, be way too too much.

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We're assuming that everything's on the same
scale, and it is not.

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There's no way it can be for
them to reach us. They are on

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a much higher scale of knowledge of
technology that we can't even fucking fathom.

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Yeah, I mean, I know
this is kind of like just regurgitating rhetoric

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that we've spoke on the show before. But think about think about your iPhone.

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Yeah right, now, let's go
back to nineteen eighty nine, nineteen

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ninety right, yeah, me and
you were in elementary school, Tyler,

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what you were you born nineteen ninety
one. Oh see, Tyler, Tyler

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was sperm right, So like try
to wrap your mind around what an iPhone

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can do from that mindset. Oh
yeah, now it's going to be exponentially

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more, you know. Yeah,
I mean this would be like, you

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know, taking taking a three D
printer and an iPhone and missile guidance systems

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back to Vikings, you know,
I could imagine, right, Like,

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I mean, you know, they
didn't even have gunpowder. Yeah, they

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were just really good at steel,
you know. Yeah, you know,

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it's you know to think of you
know, the Ming dynasty China. They

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had bottle rockets. Basically you know, yeah, and it was fun and

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it made colors out of it by
using oars, you know, and then

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show them an airplane, right,
show them the stealth bomber. I wonder

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too. I mean from the point
of view of the I mean, it's

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hard for me to say visitor or
alien or whatever, because we just don't

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know, you know, I still
stand behind. I think it's just drones,

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drones from somewhere else, just taking
information, you know, logging info.

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If they're that far ahead, why
would they Why would they give two

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ships? Right? And if they
do give that much of a shit about

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this planet, that does not bode
well for everybody involved. If they really

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cared that much about life on this
planet, that's that's scary because that means

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there isn't that much life out there. So my thought is is that if

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they are existing on some higher form
or higher plane of whatever, do they

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have difficulties with us too? Like
I know, they say, well,

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a higher dimension should be able to
perceive a lower dimension just the same way

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that we can perceive two D and
one D. But how do we communicate

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with two D or one D?
Right? We don't know of anything living

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in the two dimensional or the one
dimensional. We don't have any kind of

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confirmation of that, so we can't
communicate with these things. So are we

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just kind of in this endless stalemate
where we're going to see lights in this

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00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:07.719
guy? And that's that? I
mean, that's that's a great question.

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Yeah, we need a goddamn physicist
on the show. We do, we

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do somebody that can square us up
and see if see if we're completely off

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base or are making any sense.
We need an extremely patient physicist. Yeah,

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somebody that's not going to be like, why would I waste two hundred

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thousand dollars of schooling to talk to
these fools? Yeah, that's what we

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need. We need Neil. We
need Neil because we need to ask the

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questions that everybody else is scared to
ask. That's my daughter. Oh man,

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guys, I am feeling shitty or
shittier as I go here, So

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I don't know if I understood what
I mean we I mean, hell,

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00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:05.840
we have almost got forty five minutes
of this and it's good. Yeah.

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I started out okay, and I
woke up okay, and it's just I

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00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.599
start getting the headache, man,
And like I said, I'm sure I'll

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00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:19.480
be better. Just enough time to
go back to work. M awesome yep,

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but uh, unless you guys have
more to add, man, I'm

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probably gonna tap out. Okay,
Okay, you're pretty good. Yeah,

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well you're all out there. Take
care of each other. Sorry, I

468
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.039
got some kind of head cold thing
going on. I don't know what it

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is, but uh, see you
all the next one, take each other,

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00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.719
see you. Oh you know what, Tyler, you have to give

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00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.119
them one more because you missed last
week. Yeah. Yeah, your your

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00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:59.119
computerlit my computer glitch up. There
you go, see all caught up.

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That wasn't so bad, right,
It was easy. I guess I'll see