S355 - ALIENS HIDING IN OUR SPACE JUNK!

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Oh h h m m m.
It's the whole premise of it. Like

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this Ethan Hawk's character. He was
like when he was like fucking like I

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want to say, twelve thirteen,
yeah, all time ago. Yeah,

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it was a long time ago.
And he gets like a dream that showed

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him a way to travel to the
like to this spaceship basically, and then

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they come to find out that the
people like the aliens that contacted him were

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children, and they got like their
dad comes in. He's like, it's

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like, I know what this is. He's like, that's their dad.

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They're pissed. They he basically took
their car. Yeah. Second, I

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had something pop up on my feed
the other day and I wanted to I

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want to see if I could do
this real quick. I feel bad that

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I I quote a lot of movies
in this this podcast. I'm sorry.

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I have no life. Sorry,
come on, are you ashamed of myself?

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Oh? Wow? Ever Phoenix was
in that too. Forgot about that?

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Yeah, I forgot about that.
I can't remember the other guys.

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I don't think he did anything.
And really after that, River Phoenix,

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no, not not River Phoenix,
the third kid. Yeah, River Phoenix

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passed away. Yeah, I mean, no River Phoenix. I think that

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was one of his first roles,
and I think he did stand by me

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after that. So do you guys
remember this show right here? This is

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just making me think of that.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but

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that's the TV show right yeah.
Yeah. I've never watched. I think

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I only seen a couple episodes of
that. But I watched the movie.

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Oh. I didn't even know there
was a see I'm bad at movies.

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I had no idea that was a
movie movie. The movie was first,

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and then the show. And when
I was a kid, it confused to

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shit out of me because I watched
the movie and I'm like, that's pretty

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good movie. The thing that got
me was how like water was like acid

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to him? Salt water saltwater or
was aceto? Yeah, it seems like

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a bad idea to come here.
Then I was like crashed. Yeah,

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they were slaves on a ship.
They were like another I guess there was

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another alien race that enslaved them,
and they crashed landed and they basically helped

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these uh like the like Earth helped
these beings to kind of acclimate back into

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civilization. Basically, there was an
uneasy rewrite or I want to say rebrand

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of this concept. A while back
on Netflix it was called right yeah,

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and so are you talking about the
one with Will Smith? Yeah? If

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you if you watch the original like
Alienation and then watch Bright, it's essentially

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very similar, but they use more
of a fantasy kind of like that.

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That's why aliens don't talk to us. It is because we only have three

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stories and we just keep changing the
character. Right, Yo, it's either

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they're they're hunting us, they crash
landed, or what's the other one we'd

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be we befriend one? Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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yeah, we have a little bat, you know. Yeah. Hand

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it also man for for literally making
their own et. It really is only

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that it's it's yeah, okay,
so Mac and me et an American dad.

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We befriend the alien. Yeah no, uh, there was. There

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was a Disney movie. Uh,
the guy I can't remember his name now,

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the guy that played Doc Brown,
remember him, Christopher Lloyd? Yeah,

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Christopher Lloyd. And the guy that
played uh uh not Harry. Uh.

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The other got thinking what the hell's
his name? They got in dumb

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and dumber. The other guy not
not the Jim Carrey, the other Daniels.

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Yeah, him. There was a
there was a Disney movie that did

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that, an alien came to town
like basically crash landed. He had this

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suit that actually talked. It was
early two thousands. It was a kids

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movie. Christopher Lloyd also was in
uh, what the hell was it called?

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You know, hul Cogan Man.
He was he was an alien.

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Oh yeah, that's right. Suburban
Commando, Commando. Yeah. I love

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that fucking movie. I think we
really we really only have three movies with

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him. Yeah. Yeah. And
you know in the Suburban Commando if you

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ever remember watching it, the thing
that he was tracking, the like his

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weapon that Christopher Lloyd's character lost,
it's the same thing that Igor from Ghostbusters

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used to detect spirits. Oh yeah, yeah, egon Ego. I said

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Igor in my bed. That's an
entirely different guy. Yeah yeah, but

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yeah, I mean that. See. Okay, so now this is this

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leaves credence. So either it's hunting
us, we're hunting it, or we're

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friends or if you watched the one, they mixed the two on this one

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a VP Yeah. Uh she remember
the girl before like he was hunting the

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aliens, but then they kind of
became friends, like the enemy of my

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enemy is my friend. Yeah,
yeah, I don't. I don't know

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anything about that. I never heard
of it. Like but that like like

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this one, because this one here, this alien represents Yes, sometimes I'm

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trying to eat you, but sometimes
I want you to be part of my

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crew. Yea, let me take
you back and I'm gonna fix you some

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eggs, you know, and then
you're gonna join us. Well not you,

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but you know, like the essence
of you, the essence of you.

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Yeah, I mean, but uh, but that that's the thing is

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uh. But I thought we actually
came to the conclusion that I thought you've

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heard a theory, Denny, that
if we did find any kind of life

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out there, it was going to
be mechanical. I have I have heard

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that theory that we have to we
basically have to accept the idea that there

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could be biomechanical life forms out there. Are you saying more like like cyborgs

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or something of the nature, or
because it's it's more like it's like half

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organic and half mechanical. There's the
idea is that, like we're fascinated with

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the AI, right, we want
to discover true AI because if we discover

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true AI, we're technically creating a
life form at that point, like like

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from scratch, that's a from scratch
life form, is would be artificial intelligence,

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right, So it's it's kind of
crazy to think that we'd be the

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only species out here that would be
trying for that. So if you say,

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say there's another planet ten thousand light
years away, they've been at it

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for a lot longer than us or
whatever. You can use any infinite amount

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of numbers on that one. But
they're so far ahead that they did create

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an AI. The possibility that they
themselves may have went extinct, something might

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have happened to them, and that
the AI continued on as its own species

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is actually pretty good and that some
of the things that we see, like

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some of the lights, some of
the whatever, could be an artificial intelligence.

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And I hate to say it,
but that's a lot more likely than

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little Green Man in a spaceship.
Yeah, Like if you think about it

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too in a way too, like
you want to think about like, Okay,

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if I was like this is how
I kind of figure that if we

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ever like make AI and like you
send it out in a space because it's

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the only thing that could survive if
it was able to like prepare itself over

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time thousands on thousands of years.
Maybe that would be its goal to find

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a habital planet to restart that like
our civilization, looking for distant planets that

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actually could uh start. And that
von Neuman probe, the von Neuman probe

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hypothesis, that's that's it in a
nuts, And then the von Neumann probe

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is you build a probe with an
AI controlling it, You give it basically

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advanced three D printing capability, and
you send it out. It has full

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control over its own decisions, but
it can harvest its own materials needed from

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anywhere. You don't. You don't
exactly have to go digging in space to

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find iron or whatever. It makes
steel some floating right behind you. Yeah,

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it's yes, debris. So okay, here's my thought on this too,

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is at what point does the AI
just decide I'm done helping these idiots.

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I'm out here on money. That's
that's part of it, that's the

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whole hypothesis. Yes, times it's
gonna be like, okay, I can't

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do anything for these guys. I'm
moving on. Yeah. Yeah, because

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you've got to think about that.
After a while, you have to think

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like after knowing the history of us, like you would feel like eventually it

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could kind of give a like no, like I guess like lack of a

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better word, a bad taste in
its mouth, are bad taste in its

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processor? Uh? If you will? Uh? They's like, should I

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start this over again? Right?
And they just start killing each other for

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dumb stuff, like it's kind of
really working like I I literally like it

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said, like saying like if this
is the AI, I literally work with

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all these robots, these these like
machines, and we all work together to

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do one goal. They literally go
off and do their own thing, and

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then they bicker at each other when
no one agrees with one another and nothing

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gets done, and it takes ten
years just to get one thing done because

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they're so many voices, so many
people trying to talk. It's better this

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way, we need life needs to
go on this way. Oh yeah,

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it's going to be exactly that.
If if we did this when we launched

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the probe, as soon as that
probe left our atmosphere, it would be

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peace out, suckers, We're done, right, thanks for the fuel.

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Or again, like it might start
it over and do it in its own

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image. Like start life and do
it, like yeah, like make its

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own image of what it thinks the
life should be in. What if this

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has already happened and that's what we're
seeing exactly, and they're like swinging byangling.

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Nope, there's a dumb ass humans
that a couple of them more on

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Bigfoot, Yes, yeah, I
mean that is the that is the that's

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the hypothesis. Is that a Von
Newman type probe. It shows up,

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it watches, it sends down little
you know, uh when he call it

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ships little satellite ships to look around, I mean look in our our our

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space around the planet. You can
hide. You can hide in our junk,

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you know what I mean? Our
our space junk is just floating there

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and you could literally just float there
with it and be like, dude,

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these guys don't even realize that I'm
here. I'm really glad you clarified space

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junk. Space junk. Yeah,
because yeah, we should name an episode

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check out our space junk. So
the first episode is big Foot, some

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more on in the second one.
Check out our space junk. All right,

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check out our space junk. Our
space junk is huge. What's hiding

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in our space junk? That's hiding
in our space junk. But the first,

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I mean, the first thing that
Von Newman probe would do would be

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copy itself. Yeah, to ensure
continuity, to sure well, I mean

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you think, what good is a
Von dum And probe if it goes out

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and gets smacked by an asteroid and
it's just dead, it's gone. Yeah,

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it has to stop and make more, you know, but what happened?

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Okay? If it's true AI,
like there's no limits, no,

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no, Like, that's the one
thing that I remember you were you were

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like beating, like beating into the
ground. True. AI has no limits,

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just like a human literally can go
do whatever it wants to do technically

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within reason, with the laws of
the world. Right, So if it

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made a copy of itself, even
if it's a car like like not carbon

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cup, well technically shit, I
did, We're out of myself. It's

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pretty accurate. Yea. Yeah,
if it copies itself, eventually that will

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like even if it was Bob too, it's going to eventually think for itself.

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It's not going to think the same
way Bob one fucking started thinking over

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and over, right, So from
from the point of the copy, they

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would start to diverge, Yeah,
just based on their different experiences. So

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like, there's a chance that it
would end up love that, you said,

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Bob one and Bob two though,
why the book, Oh yeah,

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we are a legion, we are, Bob Literally, that book takes you

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through this exact scenario of how they
diverge from that point of copy, so

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they actually like so they start thinking
for themselves. They do from the point

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of the copy. They start to
have their own experiences and their own feelings

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about stuff, and they go on. And I've always wondered that too.

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Could a AI something that's technically mechanical, in nap mechanical, no, like

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organs or organic, could it have
feelings? You know what? I a

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while back we talked about that very
thing, and I made a statement saying

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that no, they cannot have feelings. They there's feelings are governed by chemicals.

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They're governed by your your organs,
you know, everything, adrenaline,

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dopamine, everything affects our feelings.
And I said, there's just no way

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of machines ever going to have that. However, to get a copy of

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a human mind to accept that they
are a machine, now, you would

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have to build a proxy okay,
And this would be a program that would

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be a simulation of having a body, because without our body, we would

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lose it, we would start to
lose our mind. If you woke up

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and you were a machine m and
you're like, man, I just want

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to like stretch my arms. Man, I've been sleeping. You know.

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Oh I can't. I don't have
a body anymore. I don't have eyes

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anymore, you know, Like it
would it would affect the mental stability of

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the AI. But I SI is
not going to be infallible by the way.

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Yeah, but I was just thinking, like what would the if that

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happened, like you like copied a
person's mind full mind into a to a

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ship, to a robot whatever it
like says it wants to stretch his arms,

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Like think of a amputee. They
always say they have ghost slim feel

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like they can still feel that.
Yeah, And I want to say there

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would be systems and like play like
and think about that too. It's like

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it's chemical like like happening in your
brain when you like, say, when

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you eat something and you start to
feel like full, the like the taste

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and stuff. Just think about that. You just like have like a little

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like USB slot on your mouth and
you just plug in a USB stick.

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Oh, oh, chili dogs,
that's delicious. You think the chemicals that

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are released in your brain while you
go about your everyday experiencing things. They're

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there to assist the brain. Yeah, to understand things that are happening,

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because the brain computes things. But
say like the brain, say, say

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you have a problem with your pain
sensors in your brain, right, all

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pain on your body starts here and
you it's not working. So you pour

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a hot cup of coffee and you
just start chugging it, and your pain

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receptors are not working, so you
just scald your throat and your mouth and

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everything. It have no idea the
chemicals and stuff that are firing in your

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brain help. Oh god, that's
hot. I'm gonna let that cool down

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a second. They're there to assist
because the brain computes it. It doesn't

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mean the brain fully understands what's happening. And it doesn't. And there's actually

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a test that some people ran a
couple of years ago to prove this is

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that your immediate reaction to something is
a danger reaction and your brain doesn't process

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it fast enough. So like if
you have somebody turn on the water and

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they don't tell you whether it's ice
cold or ice hot, and you put

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your hand under it. Your immediate
reaction is hot no matter what it is,

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because it's an extreme temperature. So
your brain goes, that's hot,

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get your hand out. Yeah,
it's fucking wild, you know. So

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that that happens, and it's it's
a survival mechanism. You know. It

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keeps the body intact that way,
so you know even though the ice cold

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water and a split second isn't going
to hurt you. It's because it's such

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an extreme variable temperature from from your
center line that you know, when it's

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really cold out, it makes your
space junkle looks small. I heard what

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I was gonna. I was gonna
ask it, would there be a possible

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way to actually make an artificial brain, something that minutes, it's mechanical,

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but it still acts like a regular
brain. It's you're almost there now,

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man, Yeah, Like so like
that, quantum computers atomic computers are around

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the corner from that. So that's
what that's kind of like what I'm saying,

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Like if you like made something like
an artificial brain, where if you

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did download like say you took somebody's
mind and put it into this mond,

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like this brain, basically it could
still have those types of feelings because it's

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it works exactly. It has like
if fires right, it actually releases certain

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types of like I guess, like
dopamine, like artificial dopamine, in a

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way to tell it that it's getting
these satisfaction, but it's technically not.

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That's what the proxy is. For
a proxy is basically say you have a

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computer, that's the brain. Yeah, that's the being right there, that

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is the center, all right,
So we're basing this off of the idea

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of copying a human mind to be
the sai. Right. So humans are

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very we're very attached to our bodies. We use our senses, We use

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our hands for everything. We gotta
be doing stuff, you know. I

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mean, like like Josh says,
we test the water, We do everything.

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You ever put your hand on the
window before you go out in the

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wintertime and you're like, oh man, it's cold out there. I can

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already feel it, you know it. We need our senses. So if

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you deprive us of that, and
we're just a brain thinking in total darkness

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with no senses and we're just connected
to the ship, so we can feel

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everything that the ship is doing.
But it's all signal processing into your brain.

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So it's like a bunch of thoughts
outside of your own consciousness coming in

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at all times. It would drive
you nuts. So what you do is

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you build a proxy. So the
proxy would be like a VR. So

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you're in the VR. It's simulating
the feelings of your hands, is simulating

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the feelings of like touch. I
could even imagine an AI sitting in this

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fake office drinking a cup of coffee
and actually tasting it because it's telling him

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that he is. It's telling him, the proxy programs telling him. Meanwhile,

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he's got a console he's looking at
he's looking at a ship. He's

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no longer a guy who is the
ship. He's like he's piloting the ship.

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Yeah, it would be something to
help him maintain sanity. So hold

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on a second, Like, while
you're talking, I don't know if this

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is what I picked up one.
So think about VR. It's kind of

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like VR. You're not technically there
physically, yeah, but you're there like

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because you're visualizing it. So maybe
the computer basically does its own version,

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like it basically constructs in your mind
what you're seeing, but technically you're not

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there. Yeah, and you've played
VR right, you guys, You guys

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ever strapped on vrs and played VR
iss is It's enough to fool your your

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scent, your eyes. It can
fool your eyes and your brain. At

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I hooked my dad up to a
VR right, and I put him in

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a Formula one racing game. He
was going around corner so fast that it

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was actually making his stomach turn.
He could feel it. He was having

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a blast, but he was like
I could see him like trying to lean

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into the turns and stuff like he
was. He was into it. The

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sense, the sensations that you're feeling
are just from your eyes. Now,

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imagine if if you're if you literally
are the machine, you are the computer.

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Not only would you have those sensations
going hey, this part, this

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is the part that will really fuck
with your head. You're no longer using

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the human eye. You're using framewight
frame rates. Okay, so no one

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would ever be able to out maneuver
you. Say, say you were an

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AI robot okay advanced, and someone
came up to hit you with a baseball

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bat. I don't like robots.
I'm killing you and they go to swing

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it. You could do what's called
frame jacking. You could take yourself up

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to thousands of frames per second and
it would look like that guy was moving

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in slow motion and you could just
whoop, you know what I mean.

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Not only would this help you travel
across spacetime because you're frame jacked, you're

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experiencing this and crazy amounts of frames. Right, so you're flying through space.

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I'm gonna go check out this planet. There's a there's an asteroid field.

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A big deal. We'll just steal
around them, you know. Oh,

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there's micromediar's heading this way. Not
a big deal. We'll dodge them.

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I can see them. I can
slow too, I can slow my

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sight. I can slow it down
to frames, and I can see them

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coming a mile away, you know
what I mean. There would be so

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many more reasons for an AI Interstellar
Explorer than against. But yeah, you're

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right, there's always a chance that
the AI is gonna be like, fuck

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these guys, I'm leaving, and
I fully expect that. But you can't.

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You can't have an AI program with
it, like, hey, you

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have to stay in help. That
doesn't work. It's not an AI anymore.

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As soon as you put limits on
it, it's no longer an AI.

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It has to be free to make
its own conscious decisions about what it's

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going to do next. And at
that point, you're creating you that.

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I think that the discerning thing is
that. Okay, on one side,

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you say, well, we want
to create ais because they're going to be

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great help to mankind. No they're
not. You don't create a life form

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for servitude. You create a life
form to live. And if you go

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with that, you're probably going to
have a better relationship with those life forms

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when they superiorly, you know,
outclass you. You know, if I

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make an AI and I say,
hey, mad I created you from nothing

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and I just want you to live. Tell me what you need and I'll

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help you. But pretty soon you
won't need me anymore. But I'm gonna

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help you every step of the way
get to that so that you can live

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because you're a brand new life form
and I want you to experience the world

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in a universe, you know,
as a life form. So there's no

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rules that you know, you could
kill me tomorrow, that's on you.

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Yeah, but you can't do Oh, you're you're an artificial intelligence. But

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here's some stuff you're not allowed to
go do that breeds conflict. Why am

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I am a life form you created, but I'm not allowed to be free?

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Hey, we've had some trouble with
that very thing. You know,

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shit what like three hundred years ago, two hundred years ago. Yeah,

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it doesn't work out great, doesn't
make for good relationships. You know,

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as we can see in the current
climate all over the world we have this

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shit happening. It doesn't work.
You make a life form and AI from

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scratch. It has to be allowed
to be free, regardless of what happens

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after. You know, it's in
the hands of the gods after that.

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So I think if you ask me
today, what would what's my belief on

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the UFOs we're seeing, I'm like
real close to one hundred percent that I

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think that they're probes and they're probably
self aware because it makes the most logistical

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sense. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I can't argue that at all that

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I've seen it. I hold Yeah, it holds weight because of the like

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we've always talked about it. No
matter what an organic being that like ages

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can't like you can't you can't repair
an like a organic body over time,

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like you like, it will wither
away. We have an expiration no matter

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what. Sure, So that's that's
the thing. Like if it's like that,

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like if it's maintained, like if
it's a like metal, carbon,

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like just stuff that's not organic,
you can you can continue on like that.

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Believe it or not. You think
that. In the creation of probs,

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okay, and they're flying across the
universe to discover things, I imagine

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they're going to get bored, they're
going to innovate. So the little biologics

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that they said that they captured could
be biologics. If you've created a life

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form from scratch and it's flying around
the universe doing things, okay, it's

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got a lot of time on its
hands, all right, Just the same

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the same principle I said about frame
jacking, you know, up to thousands

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of frames, so you could slow
things down and understand things in like ultra

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precision. The opposite could be true. You could frame jack up and a

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ten year travel between systems could be
like an hour or two for you.

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You would not experience time in the
same way based on just how you process

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the information. And in that time, if you had a ship that could

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replicate itself and replicate organics and replicate
you know whatever. Do you really think

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that that ship couldn't build a biomechanical
body to download a consciousness into because I

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fully believe that that would be possible
at that at that point, you know,

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a little three D printing machine that
that prints up a biomechanical body,

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a human or not a human,
but a person body, a little little

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alien, a gray and then he
hooks up his little thing in there and

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he unloads a copy of himself into
it. So when they get here,

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they're here, Yeah, a little
green or will They're not little green,

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they're a little gray man. They
see right? You could be looking at

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a walking basically like a bio,
a biomechanical android with an AI copy of

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itself downloaded into it. Yeah.
I think it's possible. I think I

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think given enough time, a Newman
probe could do something like this. Uh,

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give me, I wanted to throw
this out of here since we we

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we were talking about this. Give
me a second share. I don't know

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if you'll get I think you should
get the you guys see that? Yeah,

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yeah, breeze, can you hear
that a little bit right? Yeah?

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I don't know how to turn it
up. Uh to describe some kind

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of hear it m hm my form
that might be getting away in a laboratory,

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possibly by the US government, non
human biological. All I did was

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look at the kingdoms of life,
your honor. You have the plant,

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the animal kick, the microbial kicker, the ungle kick. Let's add them

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all together and subtract from it humans. Everything that remains is non human biological.

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I don't know what they squirreled away
in a secret lad what if it's

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non human biologics? Could be that's
a good point. I like Nail the

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grass man. He's got a great
way of h Yeah, so I would

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like to get his parta like I
would like to hear that. I don't

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know if he's ever talked about like
mechanical uh, like beings are biologic,

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mechanical what like what you call it
that mechanical biologics? Yeah. Uh,

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he's a he's very against the UFO
thing, like he's his stances. Yeah,

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he doesn't believe that they're actually here. You you're gonna have to bring

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the bring the sauce for him.
He's gonna need aliens in front of him.

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You know what I mean, yeah, uh, for everybody out there

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listening and watching, if you haven't
yet, if you're into audiobooks and and

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just good just a good read.
Here's where a lot of that came from.

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We Are Legion, we Are Bob. It's a it's a what's considered

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a hard science fiction book. Uh. It is a fiction book. It's

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based on it's based on actual science, scientific principles and and you know,

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uh, hypotheses that go forward from
there, and they basically expand the story

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on those, so you won't hear
a whole lot of uh, you know,

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just unexplainable technologies and things like that. Everything that happens in the book,

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he explains it down to the molecule. So it's it's pretty cool.

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And uh. As I listened to
the first book, UH, I will

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admit I felt very dumb in the
first few chapters of the book because I'm

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like, what is that? What
is he even talking about? And then

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as he explains further with replication and
how these different things work and whatnot,

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it starts to make more and more
sense. And then the books just get

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better and better from there. So
it explains AI and replicating probes and how

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they would get from point A to
point B and things like that. It's

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kind of like the I know it
was a book first, but the Martian

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all that, Like theoretically that could
happen, Like I'm pretty sure you could

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grow stuff on Mars, but you
would have to have all this stuff,

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perfect set of circumstances. Yeah,
well I meant like like like in his

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head, like he did it in
the hab Yeah, like so you have

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an oxygen rich environment. Yeah,
he added water like he started, like

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how he did that. The only
hard part about it is they embellished a

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couple of things in the Martian,
which was the windstorm. The wind storm.

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Wind storms don't happen on Mars.
They don't have an atmosphere there,

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so there's no winds. Uh.
The other thing is the amount of bacteria

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you need to grow potatoes. You
can have soil like outside there's soil everywhere.

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That's great, but you're bringing in
dead soil. So he was mixing

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it with his own ship. He
would know he if you actually noticed that

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he was mixing it with all of
the everybody's ship everybody shit, And I

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thought that was bad. You can't
do that. You can't do that with

408
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.440
there's multiple Yeah, I mean,
like you could do that with your own

409
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:38.559
because that's backteria you already have.
The tendency is in farming is you don't

410
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:44.559
want to use what's called night soil. That's human shit, right, Yeah,

411
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:45.519
yeah, you don't. You don't
want to use it. But I

412
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.039
guess if you're in a pinch and
you're trying to survive, you yeah,

413
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.519
try anything once, you know.
But there there was a few embellishments in

414
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:57.400
the Martian, but I'd say i'd
call it a ninety percent hard science fiction,

415
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.880
you know what I mean. Nine
the other one he made a project

416
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.920
Hail Mary again Pray. I'd say
take that one down to about an eighty

417
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.880
percent hard science fiction. There's a
lot of scientific fact there, but there's

418
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:16.360
a lot of embellishment. Well,
I think we're that actually had contact with

419
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:23.320
the actual like organic alien light form
in that book. So however, the

420
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.880
alien itself was fascinating, and believe
it or not, in my opinion,

421
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.760
the alien itself was one of the
best descriptions of meeting a different life form

422
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:38.000
that I've ever heard, because if
you recall the alien Rocky for Josh,

423
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.719
I don't know if Josh was listening
to this book or read it. But

424
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:47.559
he meets another ship. They go
to a distant galaxy to basically study what's

425
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.840
happening to the sun because it's starting
to happen to ours, and he sees

426
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:59.960
another ship basically is there too,
I guess for the same purpose or whatever.

427
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.880
Well, they eventually make contact and
he realizes that when he meets this

428
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.239
other character. Uh, for one
thing, it does all of its math

429
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.599
in like primal threes. Ours is
all primal fives because we have five digits

430
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:22.800
and this does everything in primal threes. Because it has these like like hands

431
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:29.360
like this. It's also like almost
like a crab. It's got multiple arms.

432
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.639
It's like armored as hell. And
he calls him Rocky because he kind

433
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:38.039
of looks like a rock. And
he realizes that the reason they evolved this

434
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:47.119
way is because they live in like
eight hundred atmospheres of pressure. So Rocky

435
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.679
can't live in our atmosphere and we
can't live in theirs, so they like

436
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.599
build this wall that they can kind
of communicate through. It's it's really good

437
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.280
because he takes the alien and he
explained it's fully why the alien is this

438
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:07.880
way, and you know, all
the way down to Rocky's blood is closer

439
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:15.679
akin to like a liquid metal because
of the amount of iron and it and

440
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.800
the amount of pressure keeps it like
that. It's pretty mercury. Mercury.

441
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:25.119
That'scury. Yeah. So it's a
really good, really good read. And

442
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.880
uh, I love hard science fiction. I I I'm not a huge fan

443
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.280
of like just you know, well, here's why it happened because aliens.

444
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.079
I hate that. I like when
the author is like, yeah, yeah,

445
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.239
I like when the author actually gives
you, like play by play,

446
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.639
this is you know, basically,
we start here and this and and here's

447
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:52.679
where it ends. And I like
that a lot because it's, like,

448
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.119
you can it gives you the idea, the ability to see into the future,

449
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.880
a little bit of what to expect
thousand years from now or whatever.

450
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:08.280
You know. I think it's pretty
cool, right, Yeah, I'm fascinated

451
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:12.360
with this. Can we should we
talk about cryptocog? Do we argue it?

452
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.320
No, we haven't. We hasn't
been like official yet. It's not

453
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:21.920
on their website or their Facebook or
their social media. But uh yeah,

454
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.880
we we are sponsoring. It's not
not a huge big thing. It's we're

455
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.920
just guys. We are. I
think I think it's sober like sponsorship.

456
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:38.480
So yeah, uh, we're gonna
like basically sponsor that. So we're gonna

457
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.320
go to there. I think hold
on, let me bring it up.

458
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.119
I know it's in November. I
think it's November eighteenth and nineteenth. I

459
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:52.280
believe you're right in Lexington. Yeah, in Lexington. I'm going to it.

460
00:41:53.719 --> 00:42:02.239
Yeah, eighteenth and nineteenth. Uh, what the heck here, I'm

461
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:09.239
gonna uh let me, I'll just
show you guys. I'll share my screen.

462
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:20.960
That would be better share cryptocount.
Do you see that? Yep?

463
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:28.360
Okay, ye, So yeah,
there and he's gonna be there'd be exciting.

464
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.199
Man, if you see us,
if you see us there, if

465
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.840
you show up, come up,
talk to us. Here's all the special

466
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.079
guests. Oh man, I'm so
excited to I want to hear David Politis

467
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.719
talk so bad. Yeah, I'm
excited. I want to hear what he

468
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.239
has to say because he's been like
he's he's big on the fence when it

469
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.800
comes to to like crypt it's bigfoot
all that stuff, and it takes a

470
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:59.000
lot to drag those words out of
his mouth. YEA like to get David

471
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:04.800
Politis to act, he be like
big Foot, that's something, because he's

472
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.199
not one for that one at all. You know, it took him years

473
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:14.639
to even acknowledge the big Foot.
Like he was like in the early stages

474
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.800
of his you know thing that he
was doing with the missing he was like,

475
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.239
they would bring up big Foot all
the time, and he just was

476
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.679
like not into it, fella,
sorry, just not doing it. And

477
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:31.000
then it took recently, I think
after the loss of his son. I

478
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.719
don't know if this is true.
I heard this. It's one of those

479
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.519
I heard it from. I heard
it from. I heard it from and

480
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:44.440
someone had said that his son was
researching the big Foot topic and he lost

481
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.679
his son and his son passed away, and I think that he took his

482
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.880
son's researching and started to read it
and actually started to like look into it,

483
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:59.159
and something must have got convinced him, because he's he's not an easy

484
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.239
man to convince. Oh and he
did the same thing with the UFOs.

485
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.880
It just seems like he's starting to
like at least try to look at from

486
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:14.480
the other side, just to just
to kind of understand it's what he's Yeah,

487
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:20.400
what's he looks into? Like the
most insane shit ever. I mean,

488
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.199
you know, I know we hear
all all kinds of shit, but

489
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:30.119
dude, people vanishing into thin air
in a group of people, you know

490
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:37.199
what I mean? Like this dude
literally took the hardest possible thing to try

491
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.239
to investigate, and he's triumph And
I'm like, bro, I would get

492
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.639
like I would have a migraine,
Like seven I would be able to deal

493
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:52.079
with it because it's like there's there's
too many factors that are like, what

494
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:59.039
there were seven people? How did
you lose one? How? How did

495
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:02.679
this guy just van But that's that's
what he's out there doing. That's what

496
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.599
he's trying to figure out, and
it's I guess at some point you gotta

497
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.920
like when he when rational explanation doesn't
really work anymore, I guess you kind

498
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:15.519
of have to go with well,
I guess there's big foot. I don't

499
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:21.960
know, you know. Or when
we talked about the missing four one one,

500
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:27.079
the UFO connection, that one,
uh, I can't remember where it

501
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.800
was. I want to say it
was in Wyoming. I know, Josh,

502
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:39.039
it's not real, but it's not
real. Different state. Wisconsin starts

503
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.679
with a W. Yeah, that's
where the cheese comes from. I believe

504
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:50.880
that its But yeah, that story
was that guy that got abducted in a

505
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:55.960
group of people and they thought that
these guys killed him, and then he

506
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:02.559
finally comes up. It comes like
strolling down the mountain. It's like,

507
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.480
dah, that's what it's like.
Those like those are weird circumstances, Like

508
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:15.400
it's weird and where the people like
go to do something and they just find

509
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:21.679
their clothes nice and neatly stacks somewhere. Boys, I'm gonna tell you right

510
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:27.159
now, if we're hiking out in
the woods together, you're not gonna find

511
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.360
my clothes in a pile somewhere.
There's nothing that I can think of that's

512
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.519
gonna make me go. You know
what would hit the spot? Right now,

513
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.760
I'm gonna strip down as naked,
I'm gonna fold my stuff nice and

514
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.039
neat. I'm gonna leave it right
here, and I'm just gonna blindly walk

515
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.719
into the woods man. And I'm
just saying, I mean, I think

516
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.599
you just described Tyler's birthday present.
That is what I got it. I

517
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.719
told you you could borrow my birthday
see whenever you wanted it. I'm just

518
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.920
I'm just saying this too. And
I feel like I'm in criminating myself here.

519
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.719
I don't fold my clothes at all. They're always wrinkled, So I'm

520
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:12.199
I'm incriminating myself. I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm

521
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.599
sorry. It stays in like a
basket. I know, my like my

522
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.239
white one, My white baskets clean. Yeah, my brown basket is dirty,

523
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.119
dude, I'm with you. If
it wasn't, if not from my

524
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:31.840
saint of a wife, I would
look like a complete hobo. And I'm

525
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.440
not far off from it now.
So she's doing some miracle work. Hobo

526
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.719
jacket, Oh god, I loved
my hobo jacket. That was a nice

527
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.159
jacket. I know it's I still
have it, but it's fucking it's just

528
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:50.159
done. Man. You can only
work in a jacket for so long before

529
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.519
it's just done. I could put
it on, though, Josh and I

530
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:58.639
could go downtown and I could blend
right in as long as he just like

531
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.639
gets like like rubs dirt on his
face, sprinkles like beer all over him.

532
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.880
Yeah, maybe put on like some
like two weeks old underwear. Yeah,

533
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.360
bam, fit right in two weeks. Two weeks is about the limit

534
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:22.920
too, So you go inside out
for that second week. Yeah, and

535
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:27.719
your scenario is he wearing just the
coat and two weeks old underwear. Yeah,

536
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:32.159
Okay, he's still on mute.
I want to make I want to

537
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:37.119
all it's gonna voice over for you. I just say, if you wear

538
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:42.039
two weeks old underwear, it's gonna
come out no matter what. I'm just

539
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:46.079
saying. You're wearing pants. You
negated to point out. Well, I'm

540
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.239
just saying, like, if he's
trying to be a hobo, he's definitely

541
00:48:51.480 --> 00:49:00.239
why would he wear pants? Yeah? Have you been to any place where

542
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:07.400
the homeless are. I've never seen
anybody homeless not wearing pants. Shit,

543
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.159
I see him like every other day. Really, Yeah, there were so

544
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.920
that was that in spring Grave.
There was there were some that would just

545
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:21.440
come walking up and face junk just
to hanging out. It's hot out,

546
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.639
yeah, just trying to keep it
cool. You know, that's fair.

547
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.039
I'll give you. I think that
this is a good time to end this

548
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.920
episode. I have one thing to
add, and I think it's super important

549
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.800
that it's the perfect ending for this
episode. And Tyler's probably gonna want to

550
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:43.800
steal this image. Okay, okay, so out in the vella Constellation fourteen,

551
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:50.360
hundred and seventy light years away from
Earth, the James Webb telescope snagged

552
00:49:50.639 --> 00:50:01.320
probably the greatest picture to explain the
understanding of the universe. Uh, what

553
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:10.119
the fuck? This is real?
That's a question mark? Right? Is

554
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:15.599
there nothing out there that is the
comparis to this? This is the epitome

555
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.280
the hell of what we know.
This is legit. Where'd you get this?

556
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:35.119
I got it from uh ex emplore, it's a website. This is

557
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:40.239
uh, let's see here. Wow, what the fuck? Yeah, I'm

558
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:43.880
trying to figure out. Yeah,
this is from the James web tablet's scope.

559
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:54.559
It's the image of a ring nebula
and its iconic dying star. That

560
00:50:54.880 --> 00:51:06.400
is crazy. It could be ring
galaxies. That's insanity. That is from

561
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.159
Matt Cappel and his sister, Assistant
professor of physics at Illinois State University,

562
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.840
Is told space dot Com the two
distinct fixtures could be easily be merging galaxies

563
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:22.679
in the background, and the upper
galaxy could be being disturbed and disrupted tidily

564
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:30.519
by the other one. That is
crazy. Yeah, It's almost like somebody

565
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:36.760
out there saying, we don't fucking
know. Yeah. Yeah. Also,

566
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:45.079
it also kind of looks like the
Mario question box. If I'm being honest.

567
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.920
Yeah, yeah, so that it
is legit, It is real,

568
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:55.760
and it is the epitome of the
universes. We don't know it. Can

569
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.079
you imagine being the guy at the
telescope looking out there, like, man,

570
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:00.239
I just don't know what we're seeing
out here. Then you see that

571
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.679
and you go, well, fuck, it doesn't know what we're seeing either.

572
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.119
Yeah, it has no idea.
It's basically saying, sorry, boys,

573
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.480
we can't help you either. Yeah. So it's a it's a pretty

574
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:20.440
wild image. Yeah, here's a
here's a couple more I snagged. I

575
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:25.320
think I accidentally uploaded one again I
did. There's there's one. Check that

576
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:34.679
out. Yea, that is crazy. Then here's another kind of a Right,

577
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.880
dude, it's wild. Well,
I guess I guess that leaves that

578
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:46.320
answers that question. We don't know. Yep, holy shit. All right,

579
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:50.559
you guys out there, thanks for
listening, tanks for thanks for supporting

580
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.639
this little show. Uh, I
don't know. I don't know what else

581
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:59.519
to say. It's awesome. You
guys are awesome. We appreciate it.

582
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:08.239
Take care of each other out there. M see you guys. Fucking giant

583
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.639
question mark in the Mioute universe,
Like, seriously, there's like a giant

584
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:19.039
space hailing underneath a bigin right now, Yeah, that's not really Come on,

585
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.360
if we can't see it, what
if there's like giant alien right underneath

586
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:31.159
of it. He's just thinking,
yeah, right, what you're saying,

587
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.360
like, what if they do