S352 - Congressional hearing on UAPS (UFOS) - Continued

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You do a full sen does somebody
go that was fully sent? They should?

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And who receives you know, who
receives it? Right? Welcome back

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as to your Kentucky x Files.
Oh who oh that was a gentle owl.

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It was trying to grow easy today. Yeah, well we're back.

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We're back this Sunday morning, early
after being fucking roasted alive for the last

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five days. Yeah, that shit, it's rough man rough. That is

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rough rough rough. Josh has got
something going on there. Ship's moving around

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in the studio on its own.
Yeah. Like you can't make this up,

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I swear. Let what we seeing
the cord that TI uses to plug

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his base into, you know how
it's looped up on the the mic stand

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here. Yeah, we just started
falling down very slowly. I'm gonna call

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my attention because it's something something fucking
moving and yeah it shouldn't be moving,

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Okay. Spookiness, yeah, spookiness
in the studio yeah, oh man.

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So yeah, I'll say before we
hit record, I got a little bit

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more information about the congressional hearing on
the UAP phenomena, and uh, like

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I was asking these guys before was
I didn't know if I kept accidentally calling

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it disclosure or not, But it's
not. The disclosure was an absolute joke.

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This congressional hearing is kind of a
kind of addressing that. Yeah.

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Yeah, they did in the first
one they were We had watched part of

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it where he was like, um, you know, even though this stuff

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is public, it seems like sometimes
it's very difficult for the public to get

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this. Yeah. Yeah, it's
like we we there and looked at it

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on the show and it was like
black line, black line, black line,

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black line. If that's a one. Yeah, you know, you

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know what I mean, Like I
searched for days trying to find this disclosure

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documents and I don't even think I
found the right ones. I have no

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idea, you know, you know
what I mean, Like it's it was

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for something that was supposed to be
public knowledge, it was near impossible to

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get. Yeah, and I hate
that. Man. It's like, if

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you're going to disclose it, maybe
easy, you know, yeah, like

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disclose it yeah, yeah, yeah, Like you know, it's like I

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say it, like, uh,
I'm gonna say you this information, Yeah,

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did you see it? Right?
It's here, right, you know,

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it'll be quick. We are in
the age of information. But the

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problem is is that all of our
information is an easter egg hunt. Yeah

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you know what I mean, Like
we absolutely it's with everything these days,

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like actual information, getting the true
information is near impossible. You have to

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work way too hard. And I
don't I don't agree with that. I

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don't think it should be like that, right, And like, let's talk

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about Easter Like who thought of that? I was pissed when I was a

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kid. And I'm like, you're
making me run around out here trying to

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find this tiny piece of candy.
Just give me the candy. Gah,

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come on. Yeah, Santa Claus
puts it on an easy location. I

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think he's an alien. I see
that. Yeah, I did notice that.

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Could Santa Claus be an alien?
Possibly? Yeah? I know.

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The other night when we were jamming, I brought up that there is a

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there is a theory out there that
even places God as an alien, like

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the all creative Force possibly could have
been an alien, may not have survived

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the creation though, Yeah, you
got you gotta cause a bunch of hell

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that make physics happen in a dead
universe, you know. Yeah, chances

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of survival is very, very slim. I don't know. We'll say that

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for some some other time though.
Holy crap, that's that's it's a mind

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Uh wow, it's a mind something
I definitely would love to get into it

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because we had somewhat of a decent
conversation with each other. Well, I

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mean we could. We could make
three episodes out of it. It would

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be Denny explaining the theory, and
then us on the second episode trying to

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get him to explain it again so
we understand it. Yeah, so I

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was getting can you repeat that all
assuming that I ain't even understood what I

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was trying to explain, right,
And then the third episode we could actually

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discuss the content of the first two
episodes. Yeah, we could react.

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Yeah. Yeah, anybody out there
that if you're interested in that, check

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out the Fine Tune Fine Tuning theory
and check out the I think it's like

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the dead multiverse theory or I don't
know, but the two are pretty closely

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linked. Mind blowing stuff. A
lot of people who are devoutly religious are

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definitely gonna love these theories because they
they sort of do kind of make room

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for something kicking off everything. The
only downside is that that's pretty much the

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end of where they play along,
right, They don't really they don't really

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support an ongoing creator. It supports
that somebody way back then may have kicked

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it off, but the chances of
them making it through it are very slim's.

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It's wild, though, It's really
wild, and I'm probably getting it

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wrong. So go read it for
yourself and comment. Let us know if

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you find something like good reading on
it or something, because I'm I'm very

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very interested in that subject. Yeah, oh, should we talk? Should

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we tell them about little Lexington?
Should we tell them about that? He?

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Should we tell him about it?
I mean, I like, we

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haven't got confirmation. But they they
took well, they took her money,

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Okay, so what Well, let's
see, as of right now, there

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is a solid fifty fifty chance that
you can come to Lexington and hang out

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with us. What's the date on
it? Do you know, give me

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one second, I'll get that.
It's it's in November, November something,

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the whole month of November. Yeah, the whole month, not the whole

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month of November. No, all
the days in the month eighteen to the

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nineteenth of November are hold on,
this is twenty two, so we're going

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back in time. Going back in
time checks out. I'm I guess I'm

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just assuming that that's what the same
date, because they don't have the dates

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currently up. Okay, well,
no, no, there it is.

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They just didn't, uh ed did
the main page. But it does say

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the eighteenth and the nineteenth of the
twenty twenty three, November eighteenth and nineteen,

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And I think they really need to
know what they're going to in Lexington

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on these days. Yeah, we're
just going to Lexington. Yeah you once

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you get there, you gotta find
us. Yeah. We might be where

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is Waldo. We might be a
Bucky's, we might be as Chicken.

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Yeah, totally stop. Yeah,
I love it. I love the beaver

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nuggets. I'm not gonna touch that. I'm not gonna touch it. Never

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had Bucky's bab nuggets. I just
like hearing you say it. Yeah,

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just I guess they're just gonna be
uh, I'm sure on the subside the

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cryptocon apparently the cryptocon so we might
go hang out and I know we got

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some new stickers, we got some
stuff. I'm gonna try to, like

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see if I can wrangle up a
few T shirts to take with and if

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you find us, can't miss us, come up to us. Noah,

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give me some free ship, Give
you some free ship, give you a

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little smack on the butt, send
you on your way until it runs out.

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It runs out. We'll say this. We don't have a booth.

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I was I wanted us to try
to get a booth this year this year,

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but expensive A shit, yeah it
is expensive, but still um it,

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that's something for next year. Say
that when next year, when they're

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starting to take vendors and boot like
people at the Boots, I think we

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should definitely try to go for that. But hopefully we were able to because

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we we went ahead and we're sponsoring
the actual Cryptocon, Like there's certain levels

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that you can sponsor and it to
kind of help us promote our show and

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stuff of that nature. And plus
I've heard so many good things about this,

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so I actually heard a lot of
good things about the cryptocon Yeah,

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surprisingly didn't expect all. They some
crazy good names on uh like speakers and

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like, yeah, guests here,
they're coming for this year. We got

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doctor Jeff Meldrum, it's coming.
David Politis is going to be there.

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Holy crap. Yeah, so they're
gonna So they're gonna have some decent amount.

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And I like this one, like
like we said before, like for

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it, like the uh, the
Smoking Mountain Bigfoot conference was it was awesome,

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but I like it. It was
cool to see it. But I

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like this one because there's multiple there's
not they're not just focusing on one thing.

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They're not just focusing on the big
guy or the big woman, like

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I like, I don't think we're
allowed to see female. No, not

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that I was just saying. It's
like I don't like, I don't mind

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just black out the screen. Yeah, put a black line over my mouth.

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But yeah, this one, I
have a lot more stuff involved,

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Like you're people probably gonna talk about
a big foot and ends the wind to

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go like just like all that stuff. Man, So like I love that,

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like because nationally or Champie. Yeah, so I can't redact what I

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said real quick that should that should
take care of it. I mean,

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the redact, the entire show.
I was I couldn't find one, you

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know, small enough, you know, right, It's like I'm about to

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tell you some mind blowing shit about
some stuff. How's that? Huh?

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I agree with the big Foot convention
is fine, but it does seem a

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little weird for our show, because
we're kind of all over the place.

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Yeah, and just talk about the
mysteries of the world, not just one.

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Yeah, that's just because that's like, that's one big piece of the

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mysteries of this world. Well you
know maybe Yeah. It's like like I

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was saying in after a ram practice, you know, the Bigfoot stuff is

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it's more religion now than anything,
you know it. I feel like this,

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but I get that too, But
I feel like to lend handed people

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because they're they're definitely seeing something.
No one is gonna like base their life

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around something like this for decades if
they didn't feel it was something was out

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there or profitable. I get the
whole profit, but I'm talking about people

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that literally have seen something, but
they're not making anything off of what they

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write what they've seen. And I've
said it a hundred times in the show.

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I believe that some of these people
are actually seeing shit in the woods.

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I want to know what it is
they're seeing. Yeah, you know,

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because it could be something way different
than what we're expecting it to be.

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Everybody wants to join on the bandwagon
and say, like, oh,

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you heard this, it has to
be Bigfoot. Oh it's bigfoot, it's

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big foot. Let's let's like,
let's comment down their scooter, let's take

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all the information in and then make
the assumption. Yeah, that's just like

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this big foot, right, But
you know, the bigfoot stuff. As

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with religion, all miracles stopped with
the advent of a camera. As soon

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as we started getting cameras in our
pockets, all of these fascinating events.

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Yeah, suddenly or just word of
mouth, I would I would love to

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dive into the AI Bigfoot armageddon that's
happening as we speak. Yeah, but

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I feel like it's self it's self
evident now. I mean, yeah,

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AI is here, and I'm sorry, but everything from Kryptos the UFOs from

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this point forward is going to be
much more difficult. Yeah. Yeah,

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um. I wanted to add this
though. My kids are trying their hardest

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to get me to take them to
Point Pleasant for the Moth Being Festival,

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and I don't know if I'm gonna
be able to pull it off. But

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if for some reason a miracle happens
and I can take them to it,

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um, I don't. I don't
know what your guy's availability is. So

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I didn't want to speak for you
on this. But if it comes down

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where I do go, I will
be representing the KYXF and I'll have stuff

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with me to to talk to people, you know what I mean. So

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we'll see. As it gets closer, I'll I'll definitely bring it up again.

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But yeah, I want a UFO
convention. Yeah, but those are

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expensive expensive, Holy shit, they're
expensive, crazy expensive. I want to

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believe it's because they, Like I
had to talk with someone down and down

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at the Bigfoot Show. It was
like, man, you know you guys,

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you gotta you gotta hand it to
the UFO guys though, like nothing

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against nothing against anybody. You know, if if you get out there and

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you research and you're interested in the
subject, dude, do it because you

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never know. You could find something
that blows everybody's mind in regards to to

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the Sasquatch. That'd be great.
But I had to admit when you you

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know, like ninety percent of the
time when you talk to people about the

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subject that's subject in particular, you're
like, hey, they're like, oh,

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I've seen this, and I've seen
this, and you're like, oh,

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man, did you get you get
any video of that or whatever?

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No, I didn't get it.
The UFO guys start with that, dude,

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look at this thing I filmed.
Dude, look at that. They're

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like holding it up to you,
like look, yeah, you see that.

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Crazy shit, look at that.
And then you're like, and it

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has to be a drone or something, right, right, but you're not

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sure. You're like, oh,
Jesus, I don't know if it isn't.

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I watched an episode of Unsolved Mysteries
last night before bed and it was

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an old episode, ye old Robert
Stack episode if that tells you like we're

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going way back. And the episode
was about a woman who had lights in

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the sky happening behind her place and
she had eight millimeter film of it,

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you know what I mean. Like
that's yeah, dude, there you go,

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I mean, yeah, there,
yeah, And you can't That's the

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thing, though, is like you
can't say what it is. But at

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least there's something. Yeah, you
know, it's not something. It's not

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in the woods. It's not you
know, it's not a red circle in

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the tree line. It's lights freaking
moving in the sky that are moving in

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a way that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, and it's night after night

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after night, you know, all
right. I know last episode we started

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looking at this congressional hearing. I
want to get back into that and watch

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a little bit more of it with
you guys, definitely. And so the

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one big thing I was saying earlier
that I heard was, Um, the

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over like, the overlying issue with
with the hearing is not disclosure. It

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has more to do with providing a
way for professional pilots and military pilots or

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I don't know why we distinguished.
I mean, in my opinion, they're

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all professional pilots at that point.
Um, I guess you'd say military and

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commercial. Yeah, Um, if
they want to provide a way for those

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people to be able to log their
reports of these things they're seeing, right,

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And it's literally it's going towards something
that I've said for a while is

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you got to like log this shit
because if you can't figure out a pattern

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to it, you can't make a
science of it, and that's what they're

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trying to do. They want to
make a science of this to start understanding.

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So I'm all for this. Yeah, I'm not like, I'm not

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I'm definitely not going against what Tyler
was saying on the last one about the

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idea of using it as as a
method of control, because I think that

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there's valid points to be made there. I just there's there's a part of

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it where it's like you could use
it for that, And I know there's

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a lot of people out there who
are really behind that, and they call

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it the big ugly And I do
find it odd that they call the theory

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the big ugly, and then the
congressional hearing happens right after it they said

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that, oh, there's gonna be
a big alien thing and they're gonna use

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this as a way to like implement
fear. The thing is, though,

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is that it having the opposite effect. I don't know if that's a backfire

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or what. But most people aren't
getting afraid, they're getting interested. Most

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and a lot of people who've seen
this weird shit are going so they're finally

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talking about it, right, Well, hot damn they're finally talk about it,

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you know, And I think I
think that the the idea behind this

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is at least for the people at
the hearing, at the Congressional hearing,

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the the officials there, it really
does seem to me like the heart might

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be in the right place on this, because they're they seem to be as

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frustrated as most of us. You
know, some of the some of the

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quotes I've heard, some of the
things I've said or I've heard them say

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where they're literally like, you know
what, one of one guys say,

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like, how come we have all
this, you know, billions of dollars

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missing from the Defense Department. He
goes, if I sell six hundred dollars

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worth of stuff on eBay, the
i RS calls me that day. He's

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like, right, but there's you
know, all these billions of dollars missing

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and there's nowhere to show for it. So I'm like, dude, not

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only is he like kind of showing
you his colors, Dude, he's he's

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going after the biggest nasty is bear
there is. Yeah, right off the

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bat, I guess it's trying to
show you, like, dude, I'm

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gonna I'm not pulling punches today and
I like that, and I, you

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know, honestly feel like, other
than like the guys that are working on

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like human trafficking and stuff, I
do feel like this is an important issue

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to be working towards. Yeah,
because we've got fucking lights and the guys

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that are flying around in ways that
we currently don't understand and are absolute most

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high tech equipment and keep up.
Not only lights, we also have objects

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objects. Yeah, some of this
stuff is seen in broad daylight. You

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know, like, um, the
pilot David uh fuck I Camember his last

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name starts an from the nimits.
Yeah, that whole incident was in broad

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daylight. Yeah, you know,
like he said, they of course they

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release the most grainy video they have. They didn't release the radar, you

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know, yeah, they wouldn't release
that, but they really see the grainy,

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hard to look at media. Yeah. And that was the whole thing

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where said, like, why why
if we have all this evidence, why

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are you only releasing you know what
I mean? Why why hold back?

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Right? You know, what's the
what's the point? Is it just that

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you want to get you know,
get ahead a little bit on the information.

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Maybe I don't know but I got
I got the hearing up right right

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where we left off. You guys
want to look at a little bit more

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of it and see some of these
guys have to say, all right,

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here we go and let's max out
this. Hopefully we don't got no ads.

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Thank you um again, thank you
all for your service and for testifying

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today. I want to just talk
about the uapieces relates to what we're seeing

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in the pilots interaction with UAPs,
particularly mister Grays. One of that think

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concerns that for members of this committee
is this idea that pilots there's no system

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to actually report UAPs and the stigma
around pilots and so can you can you

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just briefly you mentioned that they're you
working with thirty pilots right now that have

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had encounters with UAPs, but you've
also, I believe I'm discussed and know

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of many more pilots. This is
just those that you're currently working with.

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Is that correct? Can you expand
on that? Certainly? I'll break that

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down in two ways. First,
when we were first experiencing these objects off

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the Eastern Cboard in the twenty fourteen
to twenty fifteen time period, anyone that

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had upgraded their radar systems, we're
seeing these objects. So there was a

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large number of my colleagues that were
detecting these objects off the Eastern Seaboard.

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They were further correlating that information with
the other onboard centers, and many of

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them also had their own eye sightings
as well of these objects. Now,

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that was our personal, firsthand experience
at the time. Since then, as

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I've engaged this topic, others have
reached out to me that shared their experiences,

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both on the military side as well
as a commercial aviation side. On

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the military aviation side, veterans that
have recently got out have shared their stories

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and have expressed how the objects we
were seeing in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen continued

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all the way to twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty and beyond, and so it

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became a generational issue for naval aviators
on the Eastern Seaboard. This was something

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we were briefing to new students.
This is something that was included in the

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notice to airmen to ensure that there
was no accidents. And now with commercial

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aviators, they are reaching out because
they're having somewhat similar experiences as our military

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brothers and sisters, but they do
not have any reporting system that they can

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send this to. And let me
just add to and both to um,

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mister Fraber as well as mister Grays
not having the system for for reporting,

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UM, would you both agree that
is harmful to not just our national security

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interests, but to understand this phenomenon
of what's happening with UAPs. I think

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it's it's a it's a it's actually
it's a travesty that we don't have a

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system to correlate this and actually investigate. You know, So if you took

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the East Coast, you know,
there's there's there's cocial radars out there that

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monitor our air defense identification zone,
so about to two hundred miles they contract

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these, you know, so when
you see him, they could actually go

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and pull that data and get maneuvering. And instead of just having the airplanes,

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there's other data sources out there.
And I've talked to other government officials

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on this. So you need a
centrally located repository that these reports go to.

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So if you just stuck it in
DD, you wouldn't get anything out

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of the Intelligence Committee because they have
a tendency to not to talk, but

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if you had a central location with
these reports come in not just military but

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also commercial aviation, because there's a
lot of that going on. Especially if

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you talk to anyone that flies from
here to Hawaii over the Pacific, they

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see odd lights. So I think
you need to develop something that allows you

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a central point to collect the data
in order to investigate. Mister Graves,

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I would concur with everything mister Fraber
said. I'll continue to say that the

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commercial pilots that have reached out to
me through Americans for Safe Aerospace are doing

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so because they don't feel there's another
way for them to report the safety issue.

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And I think one of the clear
outcomes of this hearing already is that

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there has to be a safe and
transparent reporting process for pilots, both on

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the commercial side and the military side, to be able to report UAPs in

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a way that's also transparent but also
understands the scope of our natural security interests

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and what may be classified or not. But I think there has to be

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some sort of system, and so
that's something that's what he just said that

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that's essentially the point of the whole
thing is to come up with a way

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for these guys to safely report this
stuff. And I sent you guys,

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ever, the uh the PDF of
the Preliminary Assessment of an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon

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from June twenty five, twenty one. It's the same document that he's talking

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about earlier. You've had this for
over two years. Yeah, this dude,

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he's been trying to work on this
for years now, and it's just

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been which one the was it the
first whistleblower or the other two? It's

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uh, let me back up,
mister Graves. Yeah, oh he's the

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one that did it. Oh okay, Yeah, he's he's been primarily trying

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to establish away for these pilots to
come forward. M and in doing that,

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he's he's basically showing what I sent
to you guys is this is an

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official notice that goes out, you
know what I mean, like like,

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hey, you're you're going to see
this stuff, and this is what we

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know so far. So that whole
assessment is there. Yeah, he says

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that they even debrief the new students. Yeah on it. You know,

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that's that says a lot. Now. I tried to get that document,

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the notice too, Airman document,
and the whole website was down. Of

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course, I don't know if I
mean, I don't know what's going on

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with that, but hopefully apparently you
could you could get it. I mean

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I don't know. But what I
like the most, like most of like

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like so like in a way,
I kind of like like this is that

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Graves He literally did establish like he
doesn't know what it is and he's not

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going to expeculate like what it might
like. He only will say is like,

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if it's something that's not human,
we need to know about it.

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If it's a foreign country and we
don't know about it, we need to

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know about it. And like that's
kind of like what he is. He

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has the one guy next to him, God, dang it, what's his

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name? That guy that had that
top Clarence shit. And he even says

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he was the first big whistleblower in
the last couple of months about this,

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and he says that we have you've
seen spacecrafts that we've had that are not

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of human origin. He's not,
like Graves is not just jumping on his

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bandwagon. He just knows that there's
a there could be a link between these

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two, but he's wanting the least
say if it is excuse me if it

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is like non human origin, Like
they're like, yeah, there's definitely a

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link in some way. So I
like, I that's kind of like they're

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not just doing like what like what
a lot of these people in these unexplained

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phenomenon like they'll just like oh yeah, like they'll oh, okay, he's

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seen that. To my my experience
means it's part of his and we're just

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going to get together, right yeah. I I that's I hate that.

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It's like, no, just let's
take it one step at a time.

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And I mean for those that aren't
caught up. The man David Brush,

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Uh, he was. He was
a previous member of I mean he was

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an intelligence member of of what do
you call it? The Pentagon? So

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I mean the dude, the dude
was privy to a lot of stuff which

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he does he does get into and
um, let's see the other guys.

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I mean that's the one thing.
It's like you've you've had people come forward

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for years, but never of this
caliber. You know. Uh, David

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Brush retired Air Force. You know, Uh, what have we got here?

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Ryan Graves uh and he was a
former I don't know. Ryan Graves

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is executive director of Americans for Safe
Aerospace. Uh. The other one is

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former commanding Navy officer David Friver Fraver, I'm probably saying that wrong. Yeah,

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so it's yeah, you got some
high caliber guys coming forward. So

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I just I feel like they like, why would these guys, right,

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Like, why would they do it? If they didn't, if they weren't

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passionate about it, why why would
they bother? You know, let's let's

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get back into it a sorry ahead. Oh no, It's kind of like

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when we talked about that one.
Uh, I guess you would say he's

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a whistleblower, but he was a
commanding officer in a military like base where

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it had nuclear weapons, a nuclear
basse. And then they said they sold

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something flying over the area, but
it never like I don't think it ever

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came into their perimeter. And that's
what they said, like if it comes

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into our airspace, basically light it
up. Like that's like I feel like

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that's the thing when it comes to
military things, that's when I start to

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like get like my interest gets peaked
because think about the like just the harm

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bike just calling nine one one and
pranking them right, like you'll get some

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serious shit just as a civilian.
But if you're in the military and you

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pull a prank, you will get
like, oh my god, I don't

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even want to like think about what
is going to happen to you because of

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that. That is like, so
like when I hear somebody's like, okay,

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I need to dig into this because
there is a chance, like if

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they're talking saying that this is not
a prank, it's like, come on,

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like yeah, like it's not.
It's not like how we we dive

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into like the Bigfoot and everybody says
it's a suit. Somebody's wearing a suit.

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Okay, I can, I can, I can bite, But okay,

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this is military, man. You
can't play pranks in the military.

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They don't take jokes very lightly.
Yeah. And meanwhile, the whole time

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this is going on, bab blazars
looking at you as if to say that

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fucking told you so. I was
just about to ask that, like when

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you were saying it's been like this
in a while. This is the first

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time we've had like this kind of
a caliper of people, like their credentials

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are through the roof. It's like, like, what about bab Blazar.

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I've never understood what was his like
position in all of this? Was he

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just a scientist? That was like
say, I don't know if you said

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it was eighty fifty one or wherever
this maybe like that's I never knew what

406
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:17.719
his whole like full title was,
Like why what gave him access to all

407
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:29.800
this stuff? That? Interestingly enough, Bob Blizar has not, as far

408
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:37.199
as I know, has not publicly
responded to any of this. I know

409
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.239
that I know that there's supposed to
be plans in the work where he's going

410
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:45.360
to he's eventually going to speak to
these officials. I don't know what's going

411
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:52.760
on there, but I really feel
like that's a what do you call it?

412
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:59.599
A delicate subject for all involved,
because although he has, you know,

413
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:06.760
some pretty substantiated claims about UFOs and
about extraterrestrials all that stuff, there's

414
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.320
a whole other side of his story
that is also intertwined in that, which

415
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:17.719
is he basically claims that because of
everything that happened, he was deleted,

416
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.159
his life was ruined, his finances
were drained, his credentials were stripped of

417
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:31.119
him all the way down to his
education everything. So I feel like that's

418
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:37.079
that's going to be a touchy subject
because if if everything bibble Blazar says is

419
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:43.079
true, somebody of high has a
lot of explaining to do, like,

420
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.719
hey, you know, why did
we why did we decide to ruin this

421
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:51.679
dude's life again? If you're admitting
all this shit now, you know what

422
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:59.039
I mean? Because some of what
bibble Blazar said, one of these guys

423
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:06.880
that's in this here, their story
goes along with it, which is interesting.

424
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.119
So I'm interested in seeing how that
plays out over the next couple of

425
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.960
years. You know, how are
they going to dance around that subject?

426
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.840
You know, they better be cutting
Bob some big checks. That's all I

427
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:22.840
can say. If they did that
nasty ship to him, deleted him,

428
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.360
you know what I mean, stripped
dist credentials, basically made him you know

429
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.119
whatever, you know what I mean, then he's about to be a martyr,

430
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.320
so they better get cut him some
big checks. Like here, you

431
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.679
know, we're sorry we screwed you
over. Here's you know, several hundred

432
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:44.039
million dollars. Go enjoy your life, do don't worry about UFOs anymore.

433
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.480
It's kind of like what I'm trying
to look up his name, but there's

434
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:58.880
a professor. Was it Harvard or
somewhere that was talking about the meteor.

435
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:10.880
The Jason comment, Yeah, uh, he's he's trying to like, uh

436
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.199
like say that it was a it
could have been a spacecraft and stuff like

437
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:24.639
and people with like this is like
suicide in all these people's fields to say

438
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.119
this stuff. Oh yeah, why
would you wait? Like I'm sorry,

439
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.159
like you can't, like you can't
tell me. Okay, when you're a

440
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:44.760
professor at a very high end college
and or like a government official, you're

441
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:50.880
making shitload of money, most people
would just turn the other cheek and just

442
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.440
like, Okay, I'm getting paid. It's not screwing my money. I'm

443
00:37:53.559 --> 00:38:00.719
leaving, right. But if you're
literally going to literally commit career suicide,

444
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:09.599
right, like you have to be
certain, at least in the nineties because

445
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:15.800
like like shit, like I love
like like not saying like this is like

446
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:22.920
like has anything like substantial. I
love this show, but I can't say

447
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.880
that I'm going to quit my job
for it right now because it's not making

448
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.960
me money. It's like it's like
it's those things like you're literally just going

449
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:36.400
to shoot yourself on the foot.
Yeah, because of that, Like,

450
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.000
but I get it, Like when
you're passionate about something. You will try

451
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.400
to make people understand at least hear
your side of the story. Hell yeah,

452
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.800
I get it. Yeah, all
right, let's let's dig in a

453
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.159
little bit more. Let's hear what's
this guys to say, mister Graves,

454
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.800
mister Fraber. Yes, the objects
that are being seen by commercial pilots are

455
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.760
performing maneuvers that are unexplainable to due
to our current understanding of our technology and

456
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.079
our capabilities as a country. And
that applies for the military as well.

457
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.920
Yeah, I concur with that we
have nothing that can stop in midair and

458
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.920
go the other direction, nor do
we have anything that can, like in

459
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:15.719
our situation, come down from space, hang out for three hours and go

460
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.920
back up. Thank you my last
question, and sometimes I know that you

461
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.880
have also said some of these answers
in the past. We're trying to get

462
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.679
them on the public record as well, which is really important. Mister gress.

463
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.320
Finally, do you believe that our
government is in possession of UAPs?

464
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:35.920
Absolutely, based on interviewing over forty
witnesses over four years and where I know

465
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.960
the exact locations, and those locations
were provided to the Inspector General and some

466
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.679
of which to the intelligence committees.
I actually had the people with the firsthand

467
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.440
knowledge provide a protective disclosure to the
Inspector General. Thank you, and mister

468
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.559
Chairman. I would just say that
I think that these questions are important questions

469
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.760
and I look forward to being involved
in the process to get those answered.

470
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.639
I know there'll be a lot of
questions from the committee members, so you

471
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.599
know if you guys paid attention to
but that might have been one of the

472
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:06.360
most important parts of this hearing.
Not only does he believe that yes,

473
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.400
they're there, but he has the
exact locations of where those UAPs are being

474
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:16.440
held. And the follow up just
like meeting that they're gonna have I forget

475
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:22.840
what they called it, a skiff, I don't know, um is where

476
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:30.480
they're going to disclose that to Congress
And they were given protective protective disclosures for

477
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.199
that information. Oh okay, so
they wasn't going to do that for publication.

478
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:40.639
They can't do that in the public
forum because the locations themselves are top

479
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:46.079
secret, but they can they can
do a meeting where they turn over that

480
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.480
information and then I don't know what
the Congress is going to do from there,

481
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.079
but I'm excited to find out.
Thank you, mister Chairman. Thank

482
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:58.800
you mister Garcia. I would like
to have you on my legislation to do

483
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.480
just that on the on the reporting
um and we'll get together on that.

484
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:06.800
Maybe you can be my post sponsor
on that. Mister mister burchet Man,

485
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:14.079
he's a firecrackans Um. Mister Graves, again, i'd like to know,

486
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:19.519
how do you know that these were
not our aircraft? Some of the behaviors

487
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.719
that we saw in a working area, we would see these objects, didn't.

488
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:29.400
They just explain that ye zero air
speed over certain pieces of the ground.

489
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.280
So what that means? Just like
a river, if you throw a

490
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.320
bobber in, it's going to float
downstream, these objects were staying completely stationary

491
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:39.239
and category four hurricane wins. The
same objects would then accelerate to the supersonic

492
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:43.880
speeds one point one one point two
mok. And they would do so in

493
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:46.679
very erratic and quick behaviors that we
don't I don't have an explanation for.

494
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.960
Okay, have you spoken to commercial
and military pilots They have seen these off

495
00:41:52.960 --> 00:42:02.360
of our east coast. Okay,
umster favor, I noticed that um Um

496
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.559
in the tik Tak video, Uh
it's tik tak like the candy, not

497
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:17.199
TikTok like the Chinese communist. Because
my daughter corrected me on that and called

498
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.920
me a boomer and say boomer,
and I said, no, baby,

499
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.880
it's tick to just look it up. And I like So, I like

500
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.880
to say today is a day of
many First, it's a miracle that we're

501
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:34.159
having this this meeting, and it's
also a miracle that my wife has put

502
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.239
up with me for nine years.
Today today as my anniversary, So I

503
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.119
want to tell my wife happy anniversary
and that I love her very much.

504
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:44.480
Um, as she likes to say
this, nine years have been the best

505
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:49.880
two years of her life. So
thank you, um, mister Favor.

506
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.800
What what astonished you the most about
the flight capabilities of these tik tak Very

507
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:02.119
briefly, the performance, absolute performance. It was. And you're not aware

508
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.440
of any other objects that anybody in
the world has in this world that has

509
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.800
those capabilities. No, I think
it's far beyond actually our material science that

510
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:16.519
we currently possess. Are you aware
of any other reconnaissance platforms that attract or

511
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:20.840
record of the tic TACs andovers,
maybe the Nora AD system or any of

512
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.000
the others. I am not okay, mister Grush, Thank you for being

513
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.679
here, brother, Thank you all
very much. Have you faced any retaliation

514
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.159
or reprivals for any of your testimony
or anything on these lines. Yeah.

515
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.280
I have to be careful what I
say in detail because there is an open

516
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.800
whistle blow or reprisal investigation on my
behalf, and I don't want to compromise

517
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:52.079
that investigation by providing anything that may
help provide somebody information. But it was

518
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:58.119
very brutal and very unfortunate some of
the tactics they used to hurt me,

519
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.079
both professionally in person. Going to
be quite frank, Yeah, it's very

520
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.880
unfortunate. As they say, when
you're open the target, that's when they

521
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.000
do the most by fire and at
you. Do you have any personal knowledge

522
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.039
that people have been harmed or injured
in efforts to cover up or conceal these

523
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:21.000
extraterrestrial technology? Yes, personally,
have you heard anyone been murdered that you

524
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.960
would think that you know of or
have heard of? I guess I have

525
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.719
to be careful asking that question.
I directed people with that knowledge to the

526
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.800
appropriate authorities, maybe in a if
we could get it get in a confidential

527
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:38.159
area of skiff. We could talk
about that, but unfortunately we were denied

528
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:45.480
access to the skiff, and that's
very unfortunate in this scenario. Um,

529
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:52.519
mister Favor, you believe that you
witness an additional object under the water in

530
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:57.719
relation to your encounter, I will
say we did not see an object.

531
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.639
There were something near to cause the
white water and we turned around. It

532
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.039
was gun so there was something there
that obviously moved. Okay, it was.

533
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.159
It was not the same object though
that you were you were looking at.

534
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.239
Correct. No, we actually joked
that the tik tak was communicating with

535
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:15.639
something. When we came back and
cold because of whitewater disappeared. We were

536
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:22.159
in another instance. We're told about
the capabilities of a jamming during viewing and

537
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.199
when there were some people chasing some
of these objects. Did you were experience

538
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.239
any of that jamming or interrupting your
radar or weapons system. My crew that

539
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.440
launch after we landed, experienced significant
jamming to the APG seventy three radar,

540
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.840
which was what we had on board, which is a mechanically scan very high

541
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.000
end system prior to the APG seventy
nine. And yes, it did pretty

542
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.400
much everything you could do, range, velocity, aspect and then it hit

543
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.000
the lock and the targeting pot has
passive. That's what we're able to get

544
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.039
the video on. I'm about to
run out of time, but are you

545
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.480
aware of any of our enemies that
have that capability? This brand new swing

546
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.920
trains to becoming the most popular gift
of twenty twenty three. It eliminates the

547
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:07.400
hassle of up okay. I definitely
like note for the record that UM,

548
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.840
like George Knapp breaking area fifty one, He's the reason I knew about that,

549
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.360
and the reason I know about the
tic TACs is UH is Leslie Kane

550
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.159
UM from New York Times article,
and I wouldcourage everybody to read that.

551
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.639
George, mister chairman, you back
no time. Very good, mister Raskin,

552
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.480
thank you, mister chairman. UM, mister Graves, UM, you

553
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:37.079
reported UAP encounters UM during training flights. I think and have since come forward

554
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:43.159
to warn the Pentagon that UH,
these encounters may be putting pilots at risk.

555
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.320
UM. Did he just get off
on motorcycle? The first question is

556
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:51.079
I don't know. UM. You've
identified these as taking place on the East

557
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:59.360
coast. Is it just on the
East coast? Toward these events initially occurred.

558
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.440
I've learned that the objects have been
detected essentially where all operations, Navy

559
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:09.280
operations are being conducted across the world, and that's from the Ultimate Anomaly Resolutions

560
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.519
Office reporting. Can you describe your
experience after you decided to come forward and

561
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:22.920
UM, go public with your experience, he is going diation and chemotherapy Times

562
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.440
article come out. Imagine that For
me, it was it was special because

563
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.880
I recognized the voices on the video. I recognized feel like I'm a video

564
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.119
itself. I had seen when it
was taken. I see it, and

565
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.159
so that was kind of shook me
because I realized that this problem was still

566
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.599
ongoing, and so I reached out
the colleagues back on the East Coast and

567
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.280
realized that this was still a safety
risk that they were dealing with, that

568
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.800
they had essentially hit a wall with
how they could move forward on this conversation.

569
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.920
It was at that point when I
decided to try to move the conversation

570
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:59.039
forward myself. UM, are there
common characteristics to the UAPs that have been

571
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:04.199
cited by different pilots and can you
describe what the convergence of descriptions is.

572
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:08.519
Certainly we were primarily seeing dark gray
or black cubes inside of a clear sphere.

573
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.440
I'm sorry, dark gray were black
cubes, yes, inside of a

574
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.239
clear sphere where the apex or tips
of the cube we're touching the inside of

575
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.800
that sphere. And that was primarily
what was being reported when we were able

576
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.920
to gain a visual tality of these
objects that occurred over almost eight years,

577
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.280
and as far as I know,
is still occurred. That was actually in

578
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:34.400
the missing So I take it that
you're arguing what we need is real transparency

579
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.960
and a reporting system so we can
get some clarity on what's going on out

580
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:44.320
there, because there are many pilots
in your situation, but we should have

581
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:49.519
a way of developing a systematic inventory
of all of such encounters. Is that

582
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.639
right? Yes, and I think
we need both transparency and the reporting.

583
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.280
We have the reporting, but we
need to make sure that information could be

584
00:48:54.280 --> 00:49:00.280
promulgated to commercial aviation as well as
the rest of the populace. Mister Rush,

585
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.280
what about you? What was your
experience after you came forward. Well,

586
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.280
it's only been in about two months
or so, so I guess my

587
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:12.960
experience has been overwhelming support from former
colleagues of mine that have, you know,

588
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:17.119
privately messaged me, and I do
appreciate that, but I do have

589
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:23.320
knowledge of active, planned reprisal activity
against myself and other colleagues, and it's

590
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:30.920
very very upsetting to me coming from
where certain senior leadership, that's a previous

591
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.960
agent by the best picture that was
taken by news publicly. But I can

592
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.880
provide details in the closure Los Angeles. Well, I hope you understand that,

593
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.519
um, there would be BI partnersh