S351: KYXF 3k - The congressional UFO HEARING 7/26/23

0:01 You are listening to The Kentucky X Files Season three with your hosts Dennis Mays, Tyler Stewarts, and Josh Gibbs. Don't forget to subscribe to us on your YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also visit us at www dot k y x files dot com. Oh yeah, and now it's like, what's that done? Continuity or what? Right? I don't know that there's one that's funny, but yeah, you're You're definitely the white guy in the jumpsuit. I've got the gold ear things. So it makes me crow the only one who uts ties east Tom Servo tod servo, which is greats to comp servos great too. This h this hearing happened today? Oh so this is fresh? Here? Does this take really fresh?

0:55 Now? Are you going to give us little shadow guys at the bottom of the screen here? God? I would, I wish I could. I'm not gonna. I definitely want to have time to do all that. Yeah, this is probably gonna be like a cut in half and send it. You know. I'm ready to go whenever you are. Yep, welcome back, guys to your Kentucky x Files. Did that come through the noise gate. Cut at you sound like a cat melling. Oh, it's good to be back and comfort of home home. We uh, we went down to the big Foot the Big Foods Convention. What was it? It's it was a conference, yeah right, not a convention. I wonder what the difference is. What's the difference between a big Foot convey in a conference?

2:02 You know what I mean? Is there a difference? I would assume that a conference would involve conferencing and the convention would just be everybody together conveniently. M I can live at that. I'm going to ye yep, I mean I'm gonna throw in with that. Yeah, I'm totally pulling this ship right up my ass. Yeah. But well I'm I'm reaching in there with you. Yeah. We're right in there, all right, just deep right in there, just so deep. We're just waiting. We're just like this, we're underneath cool, waiting for it. Yeah. No, I love it.

2:49 Not where I thought I was going to turn. But all right, so yeah we're back. You guys saw the last one. Um, everything you saw on that was literally the product of like like very very real sleep deprivision, and it I watched the whole thing because I was making sure we didn't say anything. Um you know too, what's the word crass to crass? You know, I mean like two before you edit? Okay, yeah, yeah, uh there was Uh, there was one thing me and Tyler were sitting on that we wanted to kind of reveal on the show. The fans out there refer to Josh as the older one. That's hilarious. I remember that. That was They said, where's the older one at and we're like, oh, Josh, yeah, you know, he's got backpads, pills, music, mental musical. There was a couple we're back now we're backing in our you know. So now that's hilarious because you're the old one.

4:02 I know. Yeah, he said that. We were outside smoking. He's like, I'm actually the older one, old one, I think, But you know what, for the sake of the conference, Josh is the old one. I mean, that's fair, but you aren't there to defend yourself on this. So I had a field day with it. I've also had fun with people mistaking Tyler for Wayne from Paranormal Odyssey, and I agreed with them. I couldn't help myself. I'm sorry, Wayne, I'm sorry. Tyler. I it's I'm I'm a fucking agent of chaos, dude.

4:42 You know this about me? Like I couldn't help it. They're like, oh my god, waving at him. But I'm like, that's Wayne. It's Wayne right there, it's Wayne. You should talk to him, but get his autograps. Wayne Tyler's like, shut the fuck up, dude. They think I'm Wayne. That's amazing. And it was funny too when we told Wayne what was going on, like the dawning of it, watching Wayne like realize like, oh my god, we do look like was fucking priceless. Everything about it was worth the whole thing, The whole trip was worth it for Wayne to realize that on or like right there, and that was awesome hanging out with him, guys, was was pretty pretty goddamn fun I'm gonna I'm gonna have to admit that was That was a good time. That was actually a good to see, Uh finally see Brian never never met the guy talked about so many times. Are you like fighting it an invisible ninja or something? Right now, there's a fly and I don't have a fly swatter, and I'm like, he's over here. Bruce Lee and like, no, I thought he was attacking us. It's like, h like block, you know, right, I saved me, Denny, I'm too old to save myself. Don't you pick out Josh. He's a senior says senior sin and sin and senior sins and god damn it, that shit was great though, that this like truly truly sweet lady goes, Oh my god,

6:13 I listen to you guys, and I'm like, me and Tyler both said the same day. We're like, I'm so sorry that you that that happens to you. I'm sorry that you listen to us. And she's like, what how did she say? Tyler was so oh my god, we were dying. She's like, you guys are fucking hilarious, but sometimes y'all lose me go off on your tangents and you drink too much, and you drink too much. I don't know what she was talking about, though, honestly, I mean, I mean really feel like that's unfair. I'm obviously you know, in my twenties and young and sprye. These people aren't paying attention.

6:55 That's what happens. They're on the they're always gonna yell at us. To get off his lawns. I had so much fun with this, Josh, I'm sorry it was crazy on this too, Like we've been purposefully like don't what're not gonna say? Yeah, I knew there had to be something that happened that you were waiting to reveal on the show. I just had to stop feeling. I'm like, you know, yeah, that was so funny, dude. Yeah, she said she liked, let's do us, but she's like, you know, do you guys do you guys have to drink quite so much? Like, well, we don't. I mean, we don't have to, but that's whatever I mean kind of kind of do I mean, I don't know. I mean, look up the ship we talked about, I mean, do you kind of have to drink that?

7:45 And have you been to Kentucky? Right? We don't have a whole lot to do here except for drink. I'm sucking too old ride horses, so you know, right, dude, I could When she said that, I fucking like my soul left my body. My soul literally came out, and I was like looking down at the road, like did I just die? Where's the old one? She goes, where's the older one? And we're like, Josh, he's old. She's so old. Like children were like, yeah, it was terrible. That's good. I like it that it's funny. I was thought of so oh yeah, you know what I mean, we got it. You got asked about, you were asked about.

8:39 Your presence was missed. Put it that way, like there were some disappointed fans. There were some you know, there was disappointed people. That is ah, that's not not uh what do you call it? Inaccurate? Bigfoot said he wasn't showing up though, because Josh wasn't there, so which him and I were in Indiana? Yeah, are you saying Davis Bigfoot? I mean there's much of these dudes that are like looking for him. Have you ever seen a clear picture of him. I've never seen Bigfoot and Dave in the same area at the same time. It's true cool incidence, I think not. I don't know, you know, on the video at the at the end, we're all tired and we're like talking to the camera on the way home or whatever. And I said some things about the conference, and today a lot of people were asking me about it. They're like, well, how was your Bigfoot show? And I'm like, well, to meet the fans, to meet you guys out there. It was fucking awesome.

9:50 That was so surreal, honestly, But the actual conference itself, um, I was expecting to see some like absolutely mind blowing shit. I wanted to see like tables where people had pictures they took and footcast and and you know, evidence and shit like that. And although the wares were fucking cool, it was a lot of merchandise sales, and I was like, well, it's cool, but I was hoping for like more of a I guess, like kind of the UFO conferences kind of deal, you know how like the it seems like the UFO conferences are more about like showing you pictures, videos, things like that. You know. I was hoping for that, But I've heard one lady told me that if I was looking for that, she said the cryptocon. I guess Lexington's got this cryptocon thing, and I looked it up today. I don't know if I sent you guys that one or not. I might have. I sent you guys like four or five of them. And I know, Tyler, I know you've brought it up before.

11:03 Is it's the same one? Yeah, Okay, Yeah, that's the tyler. Why don't you fucking listen to me face? I know he brought up one. I just don't know. Is it like if if the cryptocon if that's the only one there is, do you know what I mean? I think it is. I think it's literally the only one. Okay, So this one lady told me that the cryptocon is where you find more of that, like people actually present, like, hey, here's pictures I took. You know, if you want to take a look, tell me what you think. You know, stuff like that, And that's what I want. That's what I want to see. I want to take the camera out and I want to do that, you know. Yeah, so I don't know. Then there's a UFO conference coming uh and it is expensive as shit.

11:52 Yeah, I've seen that. I'm like, why why is this? What's the prices that you were showing? Was that that? Yeah, that's for the day. You should get a ride on a UFO for that. Yeah. And the reason is is because it's like, Okay, I don't know if you guys heard the big news about the big UFO thing today in Washington or not, but these guys that are coming to talk, I mean, no offense to the other conferences out there, but these motherfuckers are bringing the thunder like they're like, Okay, check this video out, you know what I mean. Here's this video from a fighter pilot, you know, here's this video that was filmed here, here's this video here, look at this. We zoomed in on this once you could get a better look at the object, you know, evidence, you know what I mean. So, from what I understand, they charged quite a bit more. And then the saint of a man, David Politis is going to be there to speak, and I guess that probably that probably dragged the number up quite a bit on the on the ticket. If you guys out there want to see us at that, here's what you gotta do. We need one hundred and eighty nine dollars times three. Send that over and we'll go and film it and

13:24 we'll get into some trouble at that conference. And I mean, where where's this conference at? It's in Covington? What, Yeah, David Politis is coming to Covington. Yeah, Or if you guys could just send us a couple of bucks, we'll try to stay outside and then we'll just people on the way out. We'll just kidnap them, do that. We won't do that, So we're gonna edit that out. Yeah, so we can get into something in the future that would be nice. Joe, calm it down, Calm down YouTube, he's the missing for one one. You don't grab the Missing for one one guy. Yeah, he probably like the worst guy karate move and like knock me on my ass. That would be great for our show, Like Tyler got his ass kick. But if it polite is, yeah, he probably like swallows those little apple uh what are the air tags before every show, trying to take me Tyler? Right, yeah, I bet well you know what would happen if if you did anything to David Politis Tyler, Like, seriously, what you would have? David Polis and you're just hugging him to you and you're like, all right, David, I'm sorry, but I'm taking you home to my house and I'm gonna talk to you and i'm gonna film it, and all of a sudden, your phone's gonna ring and Liam Neeson's gonna be on the other end, and it's gonna be like, I don't know where you are, but I have a

14:56 particular set of skills. Last fucking you don't tell him. Jesus, he's got an hour thirty minutes to find you and kill you. You know what I mean. You gotta Hi Neeson. I want to talk to him too. Yeah. Would you trade David Politis for Liam Neeson? It'd be tough, but I might. It depends on the timeframe. Hey, rob Roy. Rob Roy was a great movie. Like, I just love him to talk to me, like, just tell me his life story in his monotoon voice. Yeah, like over like a glass of scotch was like one ice cube, just rattling around. Yeah. And I don't feel like i'd have any good questions. It would just be like, do you remember when you were in Rob Roy? You remember when you were in Into the Gray?

15:43 It was awesome. That was awesome. Remember when you were in One Thousand Ways to Die in the West, It was awesome. He made a Scottish cowboy, makes sense? Or Irish cowboy? I'm sorry, hate Yeah, that's a great man. Maybe I don't know, Tyler, Maybe maybe this plan is a good one. I don't know. Now, would you would you trade Liam Neeson for Rob Lowe? Right? So you get you get celebrity, you know, you get you get an outsider, but you also get a guy that does cryptid stuff steak Golden pony boy. I don't know.

16:23 I would like to hear Liam Neeson's take on all of this. I feel like he'd be like, it's a bunch of bullshit, you know what I mean. He's just gonna be like in a real heavy Fisherman sweater and be like, is it true that these tricks act only for children? I won't be bothered back to my house. Huh. AnyWho you want to send us to? I mean, are you sure you want to send us to this? I mean, think about it us at the UFO convention. If you said a thousand dollars each, we'll go to like five different places.

17:10 Dude, we'll actually release the doves out of the fucking limo like Tyler wants to do. Well. I mean, thank If we've got a thousand dollars each, we could we could take a couple of days off work and we could go like Mothman Festival. We could do the one in Covington with David Politis. You know, if they want to send ten grand each, we could go look for Nessie. I'm down for Nessy, that's all. He cared about. Is he just wants to release doves from the thing when we get out. That's that's it. We talked about this too, Like I thought, or like when he said it for the first time, I thought he said that he wanted the Patreons to send doves. I didn't. I misheard him. So I'm like, really, you want him to actually send the bird and we have to save them all and then you gotta feed him.

17:57 Howsamina, If they're gonna send doves, they should send the chocolate or the soap freaking one's delicious ones useful like we get so we don't lose them. We can put leashes on them and we just tie them to our belts. The doves, yeah, just walking around these these tired birds trying to stay afloat above us. They have to land every now and then we'll just I'll like, we'll get a backpack and put like a little rail that sticks up the perch. Oh, I see it, This dove shit everywhere. Yeah, Tyler, you're gonna be covered and shit. Well, if you guys out there aren't convinced yet to send us, how much are we going for here? I was just saying one hundred and eighty nine eight, So we could get he's already up to ted grand. Let's let's go for broke.

18:51 Yeah, if he's got us like going to fucking Scotland and ship. But I'm down if we get fifty grand. We could do Scotland. We could go see Champie, We could go you know, you could go to Australian see the the yippie awe they awe? Is it? Yeah? Is it? What is it? The awe? We could go up the fucking Todd Standings and have a sasquatch encounter with him out in the woods. Oh, I don't think he experience. Yeah, I don't think he can say, you know, encounter because that yeah, okay, yeah, false advertisement. It's all about it's all about the word play there on that way. It's the experience. It's just like when you're a musician, you're gigging out, you're doing it for experience. Yeah, Brian, Okay, Brian hasn't said anything, He never made a comment about this, but he's going.

19:45 He's going up there to do that. And I'm like, man, I don't want to, like, I don't want to make a substance here, but I feel like I know why Brian's going, because I seriously think that he's thinking something real similar to us about this. He's like, Okay, yeah, but let's go have an experience, you know what I mean. But I don't want to put words into his mouth. I don't know. Maybe he's like, maybe he's going up there for a profound thing. I don't know, but I feel like he's I feel like he's gonna have his his his what he called his thinking cap on his police force cap. I don't know. I don't got a better word for it. One hundred and eighty nine dollars each, and you could send this to the UFO convention.

20:33 It's like two fifty each for to get us in the room with David Politis. Oh let's see, that's that sounds a lot better than fifty grand. I'm just saying that you're saving all kinds of bargains, bargains. I'm actually saving the money right now. And I mean worst case scenario, if only one person sends one hundred and some dollars, then we'll just get beer. Oh yes, we need to calm down or drinking well, be perfectly honest, we don't like chairs. We have it just has been well, I feel like tonight's a rare night because yeah, so go ahead, I've got something I just thought of. It just popped in my head out of nowhere.

21:18 I'm sorry. I didn't mean interrupt, Tyler. Oh, I was just saying, like, this is a rare night because we're recording the night oh Thursday, so we normally have our episode already done and we do it early on Sunday mornings. So I was a fucking corpse on Sunday morning. There was no there was no way. I don't even think I woke up that day. I don't even think I'm woke up now. Is this what I was gonna say? Was so when I made the comment in our private chat today when you were sending all of those links to all of those different shows, and I made the comment of antique road show with special guest a millennial, Yeah, I had no idea that how accurate it was. Considering what you said. That'll be great, man, if we go to the UFO thing and we meet any fans, you can give him a shiny nickel.

22:27 I'm gonna keep a pack of Worthers on me, Tyler. Tyler will mix up some fucking uht a musel every now to fairy Josh Drick Death, who's pushing my wheelchair? Did we forget? Did we forget his wheelchair again? We gave you like a little Askell Come on, Grandpa. So, um, you guys want to check out I know this is this is this is extremely long, Okay, but I didn't watch the whole thing because I'm like, dude, I want to watch this with the dudes. Yeah, I have. I got the stream of the congressional hearing that was that happened today. This it actually happened this morning. Um, at the same time they were hearing the thing about Hunter Biden, which is weird but uh interesting.

23:38 You guys, you guys want to check out some of this. Like I said, I know it's long, but I thought that we could maybe we could, you know, commentate, we could pause if you know what I mean, if something interesting or whatever, I'm down, but we got to make sure that we wherever the sources we gotta say because we're we'll get our honey spink by YouTube. Okay, okay, this is from the Associated Press and this is also on YouTube. Incidentally enough, YouTube is the same ones that demonetize us on a regular basis. You should be familiar with them by now. All right, here we go, check us out. Let's let's see what they have to say. Come to order, Welcome everyone, without objection. The Chair may declare a recess at any time. Additionally, without objection, the following members are waved onto the subcommittee for the purpose of participating in the day's hearing. Mister Burchand of Tennessee, Miss Luna Florida, Mister Gets to Florida, Mister Burlison of Missouri, missus Ocazio Cortes in New York, and mister Oglis of Tennessee. Without objections, So ordered for today's subcommittee hearing, both the Chair and ranking member will have ten minutes for opening remarks. We may both be giving some of those minutes to other members.

25:00 Was our party. I'm now going to recognize myself for ten minutes, shameless plug about four, and then we'll give it to some of my friends over here. Good morning, and welcome to the mostly exciting, the most exciting subcommittee in Congress this week, the Subcommittee on National Security of the Boarder in Foreign Affairs for discussion of Unidentified Anomalous phenomenon a balloon on his head before he got a birth now such as such as the witnesses on the panel today for sharing their stories on how they've been. He didn't really sell it when he said he was this was like super exciting curiosity and speculation from all walks of life. It would have been generated interest in studying what UAP I am about to ship and what threat they may pose. I will say that when I was younger in school, I read a book, a nineteen sixty six book called Flying Saucers Serious Business, And for a while, when I was a little bit younger, I thought it was the most important issue out there, the lack of transparency regarding UAPs, which was one of the themes of that book. Um um Oh lost his place suffering it's interest in studying what UAPs are and frets they poles um The lack of transparency regarding UAPs is field wild speculation and debate for decades, eroding public trust in the very institutions that are meant to serve and protect them. As his evidence, by the large number of people we have here, what do you think the pump over the right?

26:33 Sixty six President Gerald Ford in the UFO in in nineteen sixty nine. I want to say maple Sarah, Jimmy Carter claimed, because you can't see it because of the thing. You know, the sub would barrier. But they're all having pancakes. National Authorization Act of twenty twenty two established the can't see the guy to the left a little bit. He's actually it's kind of got pancakes. He looks the Department Agencies to identify and investigate UAPs. However, a roro's budget remains classified prohibiting, meaning okay, that's to pause for a second. Do you guys notice how much these these guys love their intros.

27:17 Yeah, Like they find like seventeen different ways to say the same shit I want. It is. Does somebody like come up and tell them, like, hey, you got fifteen minutes to Phil, can you intro that long? And he's like, oh fuck, yeah, dude, I can intro all the fucking day. Yeah. Like I get this like like skin rash that I can talk about for fifteen minutes. Let's see what this dude has to say. Because this guy he's in trowing, I feel like he's I really wish they would like pass like baton or something like that. Great a tackle each thank everybody for that would be awesome. Like you throw says how bad is party politics? I think the chairs for the press up goes a lot than that. They're sitting on the floor ala elementary school kids side me here, they have like they can't they're not allowed to stand up because they would block the vision mind and of both like people that are talking to that dude behind him has humongous pupils here, but Matt, yeah, yeah, he is trying not to show airports. That's the one. And the one that's got an incredible as like the city beard or the one that literally looks like he's about the fart that dud okay, yeah, the fartnesses.

28:38 But they's granted some statements on this subject and unanimous consent to enter those statements into the record. Mister Chairman, without objection, also would like to enter in I understand now that this is unclassified. It's public record, but as we all know, that's sometimes difficult for the public to get a hold of a report. Defense Intelligence reference documents, Advanced space propulsion based on vacuum spacetime metric engineering. Some light reading for some of our members, without objection, thank you, um you know mister Knapp wrote, since nineteen sixty nine, the position our military has been that UFOs posed no threat to national security and are not worthy of further study. I'd say that's the biggest understatement of the decade. He also goes on to talk about the dismissive attitude. I mean, just pausing real quick here for saying this is happening in our time.

29:33 You know what I mean? This is I mean, okay, I'm not trying to make light of it. I know we make we make some jokes while we watch it, But if you think about it for a second, this isn't just a punch of assholes hanging out, you know, talking about UFO stuff in whatever, like these are all fucking government leaders getting together like okay, here, let's put our cards on the table here, let's see what we actually have. I like the fact that this is happening in our time just blows my mind. Like I don't know why, I just think that's it's nuts. All right, Let's uh, let's keep on. You guys want to kind of skip there a little bit, just see what some of these guys have to say or what Yeah, because most of it's just introducing themselves. Yeah. See, okay, once we get to this, it's the actual test, like you know, yeah, oh we got a commercial. Well you're going to edit this out because if not, we're gonna be getting somebody else's commercial. Let me fix that. Yeah, the first twenty minutes of that was absolutely them talking about talking about it. Yeah, okay, here we go. The button on the microphone in front of you so that it's on and the members can hear you. When you begin to speak, the light in front of you will turn green. After four minutes, it'll turn yellow in the red light. When that comes out tells you your five minutes have expired. I'll now recognize mister Graves, and you got

31:07 to do the quarter mile as fast as you can consistently. Chairman Grothman, Ranking Member Garcia, Distinguished Members of the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, Representative Burchett and Luna. My name is Ryan Fob's Graves, and I'm a former FA Team pilot with a decative service in the US Navy, including two deployments in Operation and During Freedom and Operation Inherent Resolve. I have experienced advanced UAP firsthand, and I'm here to voice the concerns of more than thirty commercial aircrew and military veterans who have confided their similar encounters with me. Today, I would like to highlight three critical issues that demand our action as we convene here. UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly underreported. These sightings are not rare or isolated. They are routine. Military aircrew and commercial pilots. Trained observers who've b LIB depend on accurate identification of frequently witnessing these phenomenons. This sigma attached to UAP is real and powerful and challenges national security.

32:04 It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions, discourages witnesses. It is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the credibility of eyewitness testimony. Parts of our government are aware of more about UAP than they led on excessive classification practices keep crucial information hidden. Since twenty twenty one, all UAP videos are classified as secret or above. This level of secrecy not only impedes our understanding, but fuel speculation and mistrust. In twenty fourteen, I was an F eighteen Fox Shop pilot in the Navy Fighter Attack Squadron eleven. The red rippers and I was stationed to nas Oceania in Virginia Beach. After upgrades were made to our jets radar systems, we began detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace.

32:49 At first we assume they were rad our errors, but soon we began to correlate the radar tracks with multiple onboard sensors, including infrared systems, eventually through visual ID. During a training mission in Mourning Area at Whisky seventy two, ten miles off the coast of Virginia Beach, two f eighteen Super Hornets were split by UAP. The object, described as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within fifty feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be five to fifteen feet in diameter. The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned base. Our squadrons submitted a safety port, but there was no official acknowledgment of the incident and no further mechanism to report the sightings. Soon, these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discussed the risk of UAP as part of their regular pre flight briefs, recognizing the need for action and answers. I founded Americans for Safe Aerospace. The organization has since become a habit for UAP witnesses who were previously unspoken due to the absence of a safe intake process. More than thirty witnesses have come forward in almost five thousand Americans have joined us in the fight for a transparency at Safe Aerospace dot org. The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at majority major airlines.

34:00 Often they are veterans with decades of flying experience. Pilots are reporting up at altitudes that appear above them at forty thousand feet, potentially in low earth orbit or in the gray zone blow the carbon line, making inexplainable maneuvers like right hand turns and retrograde orbits or jay hooks. Sometimes these reports are reoccurring, with numerous recent sightings north of Way and in the North of Atlantic. Other veterans are also coming forward to us regarding UAP encounters in our airspace and oceans. The most compelling involved observations of UAP by multiple witnesses and sensor systems. I believe these accounts are only scratching the surface, and more will share their experiences once it is safe to do so. In closing, I recognize the skepticism surrounding this topic. If everyone can see the censor and video data eyewitness, our national conversation would change. I urge us to put a size stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents. If up a foreign drones is an urgent national security problem, if it is something else is an issue science in either case, and identified objects are concerned for flight safety, the American people deserve to know what is happening in our skies is long overdue.

35:08 Thank you. I had, I had a I had a weird thing. Okay, I'm gonna throw a conspiracy out here. Yeah. And I feel like people's probably said this, Okay, what's the best Like I've always heard that, Like you've always heard this term the best way to hide is in plain sight. So do you feel like all these whistleblowers that are popping up and start the like push the agenda of UAPs or UFOs aliens because of how much like like fuel it's got. Do you feel like these are government plants that they are going in front like Congress, like what like this whole thing is real under real, Like they actually go in front of our actual Congress and talk about these things, but other parts of our government are pulling the strings of these people to kind of pushcause yeah, kind of like in a way both to show that that there's people out there that no more information, because I feel like that's the best way. Let's give a little bit, a little bit by a little bit, and then we'll stop because we

36:40 perfectly honest, Like, come on, I'm in a show that talks about weird shit and I haven't really heard really much of this until today, right, Like, so what like, I feel like you get your fill because most of the American people, most of your Joe schmoo, just average person doesn't care like they like I have to go to fucking work tomorrow, and most people feel that way, but they have this in the back of their mind. So granted, if the government does know does have space like alien spacecrafts and and or have aliens like corpses or living aliens, you believe that they would never disclose that information. There's no fucking way that's actually uh that what you just said is a big part of this. Today. Um, I was driving home and on the radio they played a clip of them talking about captured biologics. But that's but I feel like that's another thing too.

37:53 It's like they'll give you somewhat of it's in pieces, but no one ever is I want to believe you. It's kind of like this whole, like the whole Bigfoot thing. It's like, even if the government knew or people have seen something, there's so much shit that's on the internet that will make you not believe it. So you just pass it off. You always sit there and wonder is it true? Is it fake? That's why every time you get a call like is this a is this a scammer or what like, you can't just go out and just listen to somebody and say this is the truth. Somebody's always trying to pull the wool over your eyes. It doesn't matter if it's a friend, a co worker, a fucking boss, the guy at the fucking seven eleven, which fuck him, he was a dick today. Those beside the point. I digress, like more beneath the surface here that it may have happened. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I personally think that I know, I've I've said this before.

39:05 I'm kind of maintaining this is uh. People give the government a lot of credit. And I definitely think that they they hide shit when it directly involves their their pocket money. If it involves they're walking around money, Yeah, they're folding money. Yeah they're like, oh no, let's not talk about that, or you kind of can say it like this, like some of their folding money, like your folding moneys came unstowed back here, and like that's the whistleblowers just go to stuff it back in there. But yeah, but like you think, like if UFOs get like definitively proven today, I doubt that some oil tycoon is sitting there like fuck, he's probably like okay, yeah, you know what I mean, like does he care, Like he's not gonna go a ship. There's pharmaceutical companies are gonna be like, oh my god, your phos today proven. Oh this is gonna be bad. This is gonna be so bad. No anything, You're gonna sell more drugs. Yeah, I was just about to say it, Oh I wonder what new diseases that they'll have. Yeah, they get out. It's gonna be sell so many drugs to keep you keep aliens away. Yeah, I might use the V word, don't you nobody's ever going to hear this episode. You use the V words, so please don't Volkswagen Ultron Vultron.

40:43 Does it have to do with something fast? It's like a like a cylinder with a very tiny point that it's like, hey, yeah, okay, yeah, that's yeah, Darth Vader, Darth Vader. Shit, we're demonetized. Uh, you can't bring up Darth Vader. No, didn't Disney own them now, so we've got to be really careful. Oh god, yeah, Disney snipers will be all over us. Yeah, let's see what an excellent says. Yeah, here we go. No, fuck, he's back. Thank you. Okay. I want to first thank you for the invitation to speak to the committee on the UAP topic that has been in the news for the past six years and seems to be continuing to game momentum. What a Cdr. Standford do you know? My name is David Faber. I'm retired commander in the United States Navy. In ten thousand and four, I was a commanding author of Strike Fighter Squadron forty one, the world famous This is the Limits on board US has limits and it begun a two month work up cycle off the cool California. He's the one that was on the fire farther Chasetown two Air training with the USS Princeton is our control. I thought they said that was a joining up. You were told this is the firling tic tach that goes into the proceedings. Yeah, this is the USS Nemets Fighter project. We proceeded to the west. The air controller was counting down the range to an object that we were going to, and we're unaware of what we're going to see. When we arrived there, the controller told us

42:15 that these objects had been observed for over two weeks, coming down from over eighty thousand feet, rapidly descending to twenty thousand feet, hanging out for hours, and then going straight back up. For those don't realize, above eighty thousand feet is space. We arrived at the location of the feet and the controller called merge plot, which means that our radar the same resolution cell as the contact. Sorry. As we looked around, we noticed that we saw some whitewater off our right side. It's important to note that the weather on this day was as close to perfect as you could ask for. Off the coast of San Diego, clear skies, light winds, calm seas, no white caps from waves, so the white water stood out in a large blue ocean. All four of us because we were in f eighteen s so we had pilots and Whizzle in the back seat, looked down a small, saw white tic tac object with a longitudinal access pointing north south and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping pong ball. There were no roadors, no roador wash or any sign of visible control surfaces like wings. As we started clockwise towards the object, my Whizzer and I decided to go down and take a closer look at the other aircraft, staying and high covered to observe both us and the tic tac. We proceeded around the circle about ninety degrees in the start of our descent, and the objects suddenly shifted its longitudinal axis, aligned it with my aircraft, and began to climb. We continued down another two hundred and seventy degrees nose low where the tik Tak we can su two hundred and seventy degrees to, and we went nose load to where the tik Tak would have been. Our altitude at this point was about fifteen thousand feet in the tik Tak was about twelve thousand. As we pulled nose onto the object within about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerated in front of

43:47 us and disappeared. Our wingmen roughly eight thousand feet above us lost contact. Also. We immediately turned back to see where the white water was at and it was gone also, So as you started to turn back towards the east, the controller came up and said, you're not going to believe this, but that thing is at your catpoint roughly sixty miles away in less than a minute. You can calculate the speed. We returned to Emmits. We were taking off our gear. We were talking to one of my crews. It was getting ready launched. We mentioned it to him and they went out and luckily he got the video that you see that ninety second video. What you don't see is the radar taped. It was never released and we don't know where it's at the act of jamming that the object put on an ATG seventy three radar, and I can get into modes later if you're interested in. What is shocking to us is that the incident was never investigated. None of my crew were ever questioned, tapes were never taken, and after a couple of days of turned into great story with friends. It wasn't until two thousand and nine to Stratton had contacted me to investigate. Unbeknown Stall, he was part of the eight Tip program in the Pentagon led by Lua Losando, and there was an unofficial official report that came out that's now on the internet.

44:45 Years later, I was contacted by the other pilot, Alex Tetrick, and asked if I'd been contact and I said no, but I'm willing to talk. I was contacted by mister Elizondo and we talked for a short period of time and he said we'd be in contact. Few weeks after that, I was made aware that lew had left the Pentagon in protest and joined forces with Tom DeLong, Chris Mell and Steve Justice and others to form Two Stars Academy, an organization that pressed the issue with leading industry experts and US government officials. They worked with Leslie Keene, who was present today, Rob Blumenthal, and Helen and Cooper to publish the articles in The New York Times twenty seventeen New York Times and It removed a stigma on the topic of UFOs, which is why we're here today. Those articles opened the door for the government and public that cannot be closed. It has led to an interest from our elected officials who are not focused on little green men, but figuring out where these craft are, where they from, the technology they possess, how do they operate. It also led to the Whistleblower of Protection Act in the NDAA.

45:40 There are multi witnesses coming forward to say that have firsthand knowledge, and mister Grush has covered that. What concerns me is that there's no oversight from our elected officials on anything associated with our government processing or working on craft. Believe it not from this world. This issue is not a full public disclosure that can undermine national security, but it is ensuring that our system of checks and balances works across all work done in the government using the taxpayer of funds. Relative to government programs, even unacknowledged wave programs, have some level of oversight by the appropriate committee members in the House and Senate, and this work that is said to be occurring from whistable or testimonies should not be exempt. In closing, I would like to say that the TikTok object we engaged in two thousand and four was far superior to anything that we had on time half today we're looking to develop in the next ten years if we in fact have programs that possessed this technology and used to have oversight from those people that the citizens of this great country elected an office to represent what is best of the United States and best of the citizens. I thank you for your time. Thank you very much, Thank you very much. I know it's very difficult.

46:43 Yeah, when he like, like said thank you very much, I just felt like you didn't mean it that much, right, thank you very much. But the one thing is is they like I was confused about is okay you assume they if you, well, something like that. That's unexplained when you think that they would, uh especially just same things right now. Yeah, my bad. Today's climate. It's very hot out. It's not as fun. But you would think that they would like, hey, you say nothing, not a thing, You shut your mouth. Okay, they said it like that to me. I feel like he did for years. Okay, So I've I've seen the interview with Fraer and the other pilot that was with him. Yeah, I think there was actually four planes, but that they first started it the whole thing. The radar guy was the one that kind of blew the whistle on the Nimits video. The I believe that's part of it. But they were in a training seminar or a training mission, right, and the cat Point was where they were supposed to end up.

47:58 It was pre programmed into the training mission. The cat point is sixty miles away that it goes from the Nimits to the cat pointing back right, So they're in the middle of the training, they take off and then immediately are scrambled to this tik tak location to figure out what the heck's going on. And that's why it's so insane that it was at the cat point, because this tik tak not only knew that it was close to the Nimits to begin with, but went to the designated area that the training was supposed to end in before it returned back to the Nimits. They went to the exact location of where the training was supposed to be held. Well, and he did say that, like he didn't get into that, but he didn't mention that there was some interference that it was causing. Yeah, yeah, jamming to their yeah the right, yeah radar. Yeah. And his story was corroborated by another person that was flying that day. And I believe the first interview I saw, she was actually in shadow was talking about it because she didn't want to be known. And this is years after this happened. They were kept in silence, you know, for some time about this, and then finally they did another interview where it's him and her and they're talking about it, and they even talk about how they were told to keep quiet and things like that, and how everybody was making fun of them, you know, little green men on their desks or whatever, you know, that kind of

49:29 stuff, you know, like hazy, I've always are they I remember hearing about that. Yeah, they kept they kept finding like paper plates made into saucers. That was the Night of the Great Lakes. Ut a fucking dicks. Yeah, what the fuck? I'm gonna borrow one out of Tyler's book for a second and proposed to you guys an alternate conspiracy theory. Don't read my book. What if, Okay, some third party knew a way to hack the planes and make them think they're seeing this. I thought they actually saw it outside the like they cock the physically. That's how they like they were. They said they were only about a fount, like what was it three thousand feet away from each other at one point, and I thought they actually came up to it. So they said that they didn't see anything coming off of it, and like no, no, like the like the thrusters or anything, nothing really tangible to say that it was a aircraft of something that we made. What he didn't talk about in that little clip that he talks about in the other interviews is that when they go out to intercept and you know, he's flying way up here, you know in the tic TACs

51:00 way down here. It's it's hanging out at the water level. When they start to make their turn, you know, they've got to do a spiral down. It's a wide ninety degree spiral coming down. As soon as he initiated the downward spiral, the tic tech started spiraling back up to him, like it reacted to him and it was coming to him. And when they were within three thousand feet of each other, that's when it and it shot off to where he was supposed to go anyways, which is you know what I mean, Like yeah, like how would it know right? That fucking u simulation theory is just looking worse and worse by the day, you know what I mean? It's anything. How many top scientists are like literally like well, yeah, when you talk about this, the whole simulation theory, they're like, well, let's it's not looking great, but that way it's not looking right. Yeah. I'm just uh, I want to ask you, guys and potentially the listeners, like that's you, guys, yep, what do you feel like to answer his question? What? One hundred eighty nine dollars each to answer your question? Yeah? To answer your question?

52:23 No? Um? Like what what's the end goal? Like, what's the point if this was true that they're hiding this from us? Do you guys just want to know? Or is this like going to change your life drastically if this is true, like there are visitors from other worlds on this planet? Like will this change your like literally in your soul? You feel? Will this change everything you? You won't even look at anything the same anymore.

53:05 That's the wrong one. I'm really not good at this. Okay, I'm stopping. I'm sorry. What are you trying to do? I thought I made one I don't see it, like the last one is the insider trading one. Yeah, I'm sorry. What's the end game? He said? Yeah? What's the end game for you? Guys? Like, especially you, you and the listeners, Like what do you guys? Like, what's the end game for yourself? Like? Is this going to change everything for you? Or you're literally just going to get it back of your day to day shit? Are you going to make changes because of the Personally? I'm with the first speaker, Okay, he said, it's it's either a foreign country doing it, which is a national security problem, or it's it's some other entity doing it, which is a science problem. I'm for that.

54:06 I'm like, either one of those, we need to know. Yeah, in my opinion, we need to know. And either way, it's it's information that we should have. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, do you feel that we need to know that? Do we do we really need to know that? Yes? I feel like it's a good idea too. Yeah, because American people like why, like what, I'm a I'm American, I'm an American citizen. I feel that, yes, we do need to know that. It's because the more aware you are what you know, for forewarned is forearmed? Right? Is that the right right way to say? Do I say it right? I don't know, but literally it's like why wouldn't you want to know that? Yeah? I get that part, you know, But what I'm getting at is like, what can I do no matter what, like the outcome of this, even if it is a like foreign uh it's a foreign country that's screwing with us or yeah, they're trying to infiltrate just kind of like in a way that they think that we just a bunch of roles because stupid Americans that they could just do it this way. They're like, oh, they'll just think it's a UFO.

55:20 Okay. So if if say it was a foreign country and they figured out a way to fuck with our pilots, state of the art birds up there, right, Yeah, like top of the line technology being used and they're just fucking with them. Do you really think they're not gonna fuck with you? That's hard to do, We're easy. The next thing you do is you you go to get in your car and you go to stop to get gas and your bank account has been drained. Yeah, yeah, I totally get that. The I feel like the hard look at this is no matter if that's true. I feel like that it's screwed either way because like this, like the government has, like we spend so much money on military and advancement of everything military. If they're screwing with them my fucking thousand dollars computer and like barely like the weapons I have, it's not going to protect me in any way. I get we're from it's like this, at least I'm aware of it. I'm aware of the threat that it's all lurking around.

56:45 That at least keeps me on my toes. Uh. But like and especially like, but what scares me the most about the whole thing is if it is aliens, and like what like what do I do? Like if they're not willing to come out and actually try to communicate with us in any ways they could like they like there's no way of defending against that, Like they're like, what can we do? What can I do? I think that there's me theost idea is to get the government get the ball rolling on figuring out better ways to study and analyze you know, we we are Like there's a big argument now where it's like, well they if they if they're here studying and they're looking at us and all this, why aren't they communicating?

57:38 They might not be able to communicate with us. We use essentially, we use gestures and language and noise that makes sense to us. They might not be able to. They might actually speak using their mind, which is something that we are not able to do. Our brain wasn't developed that way because in an evolutionary way, there's no benefit for it for us. You know, we don't even use pheromones to communicate. They could use pheromones. I mean, there might be a lot of different Look at the way that animals communicate on Earth to each other, and there's no way that we can.

58:23 I mean, yeah, certain animals we can, you know, train dogs, you know, and things like that. But you know, if you're out anywhere, you're not going to be able to you know, you're not going to walk through the woods and make a noise and let all the other deer know they need to look out because there's a bear over there. Yeah, they're not going to react to your noise in an educated ways, right, That's it could very well be the exact same thing. Yeah, also too, is this these could be drones. They could be drones from a long ass way away, so they might they might not even be in there to communicate with us. The fact is is that we need to know if this is one of us or something, or it's not. If it's not one of us, then we need to try to understand, you know, like like okay, hey, look they they don't move like us, they don't do this like us. They're using this for propulsion. We need better sensors, we need better things to understand how they're maneuvering. We need to start developing these technologies. You know, if you get definitive proof that these are not from here. Oh, I promise you, every scientist in the world is going to be interested all of a sudden. Yeah, Like I feel like any more of a curiosity mindset. I want to know.

59:57 I want to believe, Like I want to know what's out there. If it is out there, even if it is drones from somewhere far far away, not it's not of human origin. I would like to know. It would be fascinating to me. But still I don't understand why they would want us to tell us. Why would they want the government would want to say anything? Because no matter what, a lot of this would change in people's eyes. And then next you know, the whole kind of work, spend money, work, spend money, work more. It spend more money, work, work, works money. It could it could tip the scales in in a certain way. A lot of this way of this economy would try like would topple in on itself because people are wondering what is next, just because yeah, I can understand that we've been seeing these things. People have been seeing these things for years, for decades. If they were like going to harm us, they probably would have done it by now, and or there could have been a multiple types of civilizations that are visiting us, like because we're we're really primitive, like every every aspect of the way. So what I'm kind of like saying is is that it's like, like, what

1:01:30 are we going to do? And I feel like that's the reason why I don't think they'll ever give us full information about the whole thing, even though that I really do want to know, giving them the benefit of the doubt, it seems like they're trying to get the public behind us, because a lot of this ship doesn't really take off without the public backing it. Well, and that scares me the most too, is like like how I was going back to my conspiracy theory. If these are plants, then this gives us the government trying to win us over in a way to give them either more support, more money to just basically do what they want with it.

1:02:15 And that's why and I think the government looks to us for support for that. They don't give a shit what we think what they spend. Well, no matter was like it get like, well that's the thing, Like, Uh, what I hate the most is that everybody keeps talking about uh like giving like defund the police, this, that and the other thing, or we don't need the Second Amendment. Like I'm not saying I'm not trying to give my life to like to somebody I don't know. I like, I get it. I love this country for what it is. I love the people that are in it. But I feel like giving so much power to a certain certain group tends to end badly, Like it always ends badly for everybody that's like literally breaks her back day in and day out to provide for their families. And that's what scares me the most, is that why I That's why I never can take anything that is said online at face value.

1:03:22 It scares me the most because I can't trust anybody out there with these like with these words, and I don't want to like freak anybody out. But this is how I see the world, because it's how the world is to me. Okay, sorry, man, I mean I get it. I'm just I'm kind of I got a little lost in the translation there as all. I'm like, where are we at with that? Like what if that directly like affects this what we're talking about here, Like what's like what's the fear that it's just like a ruse or something like it's just trying to get everybody to what, yeah, to to kind of submit to everything, like to kind of like destroy the weight we kind of keep things in balance and for the most part, because you know, for a fact, if we give away half of our our rights and stuff and say like, okay, government, you take care of us, it's it. I feel like it will fall down on us. So I mean, is that what you're saying Like that They're like, Okay, it's aliens, so we're gonna need you to turn in your guns. Well, yeah, like to basically, like I wouldn't say they did, just turn like you do it just you know what I mean. I'm trying to understand. I'm trying to see point A two point b here, Like how do they use it to control the public,

1:04:56 because that's like that, That's the whole step where I'm getting lost is like you release information about UFOs, You come out and you say, hey, we don't fucking know, we're trying to figure it out. You release that out. How do you get from that to population like control? That's where I'm lost, Like how does that happen? I guess I don't know. I guess I just you know what I mean, though, like see, yeah, you're right, I will. I'll leave it at that. I don't. I think I think myself a whole years. I think Tyler's onto something. Yeah, but I think it's the opposite of what he's thinking.

1:05:38 If that makes sense? What do you mean? So? Okay, if say, for an example, like right now, we're we're teetering on the edge of like a World War three thing going on, right, Okay, So what if some of these other countries beat us to the punch and release information, definitive information as a matter of fact, information regarding to this subject that is immediately going to put so much distrust in the American people to its government, because there's a lot of people that just blindly trust the government. You know, There's people like us that are like, well, they can fuck up a gas can, why would I believe anything they say. But there's a lot of people that are just like, you know, they know what they're doing, They're doing the right thing or whatever. You know, So what if this is a beating it to the punch situation. So it is a manner of control, but not in the sense that they're going to use the information itself to control us. It's the release of the information to control us. Okay, is that where somewhat? What does that put the actual information? Is it just false? I mean, honestly, at this point it could go either way. It's kind of propaganda. I guess I would say, with my with my theory, what I'm what I was taken from it, the way I was seeing it is it doesn't matter what the information is is if it is true and it hasn't been told to us

1:07:11 that it's true, And say the Russian government releases information, evidence and proof that this is true and then releases the fact that our government also knew it was true, you know what I mean. Then it's like, you have this serious distrust. It could be about anything. You could have it about the JFK assassination. If some of the country tells us, hey, your guys' own country knew about this shit. Okay, they've been lying to you the entire time. That's kind of where I was getting lost. It's like, how do you go from from this to civil distrusts? Right? And that makes that makes sense to me, Like, Okay, you release it, you beat somebody else to the punch, and then it makes their people have civil distrusts. Right. It's kind of like the old sitcom thing, all right, you know, like, so this has happened. It's a sitcon trope. You know. So you've got X group of people here and this person and this person are dating, right, then then you've got this person who messes around on this person with this person. Well, this person knows about it, and it is trying to beat this person back to the group. Whoever tells it first is going to look like the honest person.

1:08:25 Okay, means trust you know, so if if you know Julie and I can't think of a guy's name that is on the show. Todd. All right, so Julie and Todd are dating. Todd steps out on Julie and is with Catherine. Catherine's friend Paul knows about this, but also knows Julie if Todd is the second person, if Todd is the second person to tell Julie, yeah, I think there's no reason to trust Todd ever again, Yeah, fu Todd. I mean, there's no reason to trust him because he stepped out on his old lady. But there's even less reason because then it's not being honest and coming clean, it's admitting to being caught. Yeah.

1:09:13 I mean, I know I'm making like extreme stretches here, like the corn syrup is going to come out of mister Armstrong any second. Now. I've got it stretched way out. But that's that's where I was. I don't know. I was in a sun for eight fucking hours. So yeah, maybe that's what's going on. Where we all baked, like where we literally like we were, we were we were microwave today. I mean, look at me compared to you guys. I'm not even the same color as you guys. Oh yeah, dude, I have bright white lights on me right now to tell you can see me. I don't tan. I burn like my forehead is almost read as an apple. Does that help. I'm over here being racially ambiguous. I've got the bright white light too. I'm really cooked. I think though, we should pause on this, and I'm gonna say this, and I think we should pick up on this on the next episode and keep going because I'm regardless of what happens with it, I want to hear the rest of it. And I know it's already we've already got like an hour or something going here. Do you guys, do you guys go with that? Like sounds great? All right, well come back on the next one and well we'll dig into this a little bit more.

1:10:30 It's just fascinating regardless, you know, roll tape, roll tape one hundred and eighty nine dollars a piece, and we get we'll go there after my tangent. I don't think they won't need to go. Oh yeah, you need Tyler in there asking these these things. I feel like I had you on the rebound there, buddy. Yeah, you know, you may just don't don't like shit on it, because I didn't fucking get it. That's not fair. I just didn't get it. I've obviously been drinking. There's all kinds of shit I don't Jude, I didn't understand half of the ship. The guy on the video was saying, But I'm sitting there like you a foos you know. Wow. Yeah, anyway you can get out there.

1:11:16 This all could also be, you know, a nice little distraction from the fact that Uter Biden, Tony Montana's you know, hanging out in the White House. Sad ah h enjoy a refreshing coke. Mhmm, yeah, have a coke and a smile, right, yeah, yeah, it's all about reading between the white lines. Nice all right, So unless our show gets just you take him off there completely. We'll see you on the next but take care of each other. See you, guys. We yet, when did you change the vault your approa