July 27, 2023

S351: KYXF 3k - The congressional UFO HEARING 7/26/23

S351: KYXF 3k - The congressional UFO HEARING 7/26/23

We start to watch the congressional UFO hearing from 7/26/23. We dive into the possibilities, and maybe even a greater conspiracy at work?

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We start to watch the congressional UFO hearing from 7/26/23. We dive into the possibilities, and maybe even a greater conspiracy at work?
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You are listening to The Kentucky X
Files Season three with your hosts Dennis Mays,

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Tyler Stewarts, and Josh Gibbs.
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x files dot com. Oh yeah,

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and now it's like, what's that
done? Continuity or what? Right?

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I don't know that there's one that's
funny, but yeah, you're You're definitely

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the white guy in the jumpsuit.
I've got the gold ear things. So

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it makes me crow the only one
who uts ties east Tom Servo tod servo,

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which is greats to comp servos great
too. This h this hearing happened

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today? Oh so this is fresh? Here? Does this take really fresh?

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Now? Are you going to give
us little shadow guys at the bottom

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of the screen here? God?
I would, I wish I could.

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I'm not gonna. I definitely want
to have time to do all that.

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Yeah, this is probably gonna be
like a cut in half and send it.

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You know. I'm ready to go
whenever you are. Yep, welcome

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back, guys to your Kentucky x
Files. Did that come through the noise

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gate. Cut at you sound like
a cat melling. Oh, it's good

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to be back and comfort of home
home. We uh, we went down

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to the big Foot the Big Foods
Convention. What was it? It's it

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was a conference, yeah right,
not a convention. I wonder what the

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difference is. What's the difference between
a big Foot convey in a conference?

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You know what I mean? Is
there a difference? I would assume that

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a conference would involve conferencing and the
convention would just be everybody together conveniently.

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M I can live at that.
I'm going to ye yep, I mean

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I'm gonna throw in with that.
Yeah, I'm totally pulling this ship right

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up my ass. Yeah. But
well I'm I'm reaching in there with you.

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Yeah. We're right in there,
all right, just deep right in

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there, just so deep. We're
just waiting. We're just like this,

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we're underneath cool, waiting for it. Yeah. No, I love it.

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Not where I thought I was going
to turn. But all right,

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so yeah we're back. You guys
saw the last one. Um, everything

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you saw on that was literally the
product of like like very very real sleep

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deprivision, and it I watched the
whole thing because I was making sure we

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didn't say anything. Um you know
too, what's the word crass to crass?

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You know, I mean like two
before you edit? Okay, yeah,

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yeah, uh there was Uh,
there was one thing me and Tyler

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were sitting on that we wanted to
kind of reveal on the show. The

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fans out there refer to Josh as
the older one. That's hilarious. I

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remember that. That was They said, where's the older one at and we're

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like, oh, Josh, yeah, you know, he's got backpads,

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pills, music, mental musical.
There was a couple we're back now we're

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backing in our you know. So
now that's hilarious because you're the old one.

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I know. Yeah, he said
that. We were outside smoking.

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He's like, I'm actually the older
one, old one, I think,

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But you know what, for the
sake of the conference, Josh is the

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old one. I mean, that's
fair, but you aren't there to defend

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yourself on this. So I had
a field day with it. I've also

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had fun with people mistaking Tyler for
Wayne from Paranormal Odyssey, and I agreed

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with them. I couldn't help myself. I'm sorry, Wayne, I'm sorry.

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Tyler. I it's I'm I'm a
fucking agent of chaos, dude.

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You know this about me? Like
I couldn't help it. They're like,

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oh my god, waving at him. But I'm like, that's Wayne.

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It's Wayne right there, it's Wayne. You should talk to him, but

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get his autograps. Wayne Tyler's like, shut the fuck up, dude.

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They think I'm Wayne. That's amazing. And it was funny too when we

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told Wayne what was going on,
like the dawning of it, watching Wayne

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like realize like, oh my god, we do look like was fucking priceless.

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Everything about it was worth the whole
thing, The whole trip was worth

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it for Wayne to realize that on
or like right there, and that was

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awesome hanging out with him, guys, was was pretty pretty goddamn fun I'm

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gonna I'm gonna have to admit that
was That was a good time. That

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was actually a good to see,
Uh finally see Brian never never met the

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guy talked about so many times.
Are you like fighting it an invisible ninja

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or something? Right now, there's
a fly and I don't have a fly

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swatter, and I'm like, he's
over here. Bruce Lee and like,

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no, I thought he was attacking
us. It's like, h like block,

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you know, right, I saved
me, Denny, I'm too old

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to save myself. Don't you pick
out Josh. He's a senior says senior

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sin and sin and senior sins and
god damn it, that shit was great

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though, that this like truly truly
sweet lady goes, Oh my god,

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I listen to you guys, and
I'm like, me and Tyler both said

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the same day. We're like,
I'm so sorry that you that that happens

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to you. I'm sorry that you
listen to us. And she's like,

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what how did she say? Tyler
was so oh my god, we were

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dying. She's like, you guys
are fucking hilarious, but sometimes y'all lose

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me go off on your tangents and
you drink too much, and you drink

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too much. I don't know what
she was talking about, though, honestly,

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I mean, I mean really feel
like that's unfair. I'm obviously you

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know, in my twenties and young
and sprye. These people aren't paying attention.

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That's what happens. They're on the
they're always gonna yell at us.

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To get off his lawns. I
had so much fun with this, Josh,

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I'm sorry it was crazy on this
too, Like we've been purposefully like

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don't what're not gonna say? Yeah, I knew there had to be something

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that happened that you were waiting to
reveal on the show. I just had

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to stop feeling. I'm like,
you know, yeah, that was so

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funny, dude. Yeah, she
said she liked, let's do us,

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but she's like, you know,
do you guys do you guys have to

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drink quite so much? Like,
well, we don't. I mean,

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we don't have to, but that's
whatever I mean kind of kind of do

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I mean, I don't know.
I mean, look up the ship we

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talked about, I mean, do
you kind of have to drink that?

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And have you been to Kentucky?
Right? We don't have a whole lot

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to do here except for drink.
I'm sucking too old ride horses, so

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you know, right, dude,
I could When she said that, I

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fucking like my soul left my body. My soul literally came out, and

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I was like looking down at the
road, like did I just die?

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Where's the old one? She goes, where's the older one? And we're

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like, Josh, he's old.
She's so old. Like children were like,

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yeah, it was terrible. That's
good. I like it that it's

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funny. I was thought of so
oh yeah, you know what I mean,

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we got it. You got asked
about, you were asked about.

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Your presence was missed. Put it
that way, like there were some disappointed

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fans. There were some you know, there was disappointed people. That is

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ah, that's not not uh what
do you call it? Inaccurate? Bigfoot

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said he wasn't showing up though,
because Josh wasn't there, so which him

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and I were in Indiana? Yeah, are you saying Davis Bigfoot? I

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mean there's much of these dudes that
are like looking for him. Have you

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ever seen a clear picture of him. I've never seen Bigfoot and Dave in

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the same area at the same time. It's true cool incidence, I think

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not. I don't know, you
know, on the video at the at

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the end, we're all tired and
we're like talking to the camera on the

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way home or whatever. And I
said some things about the conference, and

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today a lot of people were asking
me about it. They're like, well,

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how was your Bigfoot show? And
I'm like, well, to meet

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the fans, to meet you guys
out there. It was fucking awesome.

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That was so surreal, honestly,
But the actual conference itself, um,

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I was expecting to see some like
absolutely mind blowing shit. I wanted to

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see like tables where people had pictures
they took and footcast and and you know,

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evidence and shit like that. And
although the wares were fucking cool,

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it was a lot of merchandise sales, and I was like, well,

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it's cool, but I was hoping
for like more of a I guess,

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like kind of the UFO conferences kind
of deal, you know how like the

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it seems like the UFO conferences are
more about like showing you pictures, videos,

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things like that. You know.
I was hoping for that, But

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I've heard one lady told me that
if I was looking for that, she

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said the cryptocon. I guess Lexington's
got this cryptocon thing, and I looked

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it up today. I don't know
if I sent you guys that one or

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not. I might have. I
sent you guys like four or five of

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them. And I know, Tyler, I know you've brought it up before.

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Is it's the same one? Yeah, Okay, Yeah, that's the

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tyler. Why don't you fucking listen
to me face? I know he brought

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up one. I just don't know. Is it like if if the cryptocon

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if that's the only one there is, do you know what I mean?

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I think it is. I think
it's literally the only one. Okay,

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So this one lady told me that
the cryptocon is where you find more of

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that, like people actually present,
like, hey, here's pictures I took.

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You know, if you want to
take a look, tell me what

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you think. You know, stuff
like that, And that's what I want.

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That's what I want to see.
I want to take the camera out

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and I want to do that,
you know. Yeah, so I don't

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know. Then there's a UFO conference
coming uh and it is expensive as shit.

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Yeah, I've seen that. I'm
like, why why is this?

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What's the prices that you were showing? Was that that? Yeah, that's

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for the day. You should get
a ride on a UFO for that.

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Yeah. And the reason is is
because it's like, Okay, I don't

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know if you guys heard the big
news about the big UFO thing today in

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Washington or not, but these guys
that are coming to talk, I mean,

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no offense to the other conferences out
there, but these motherfuckers are bringing

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the thunder like they're like, Okay, check this video out, you know

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what I mean. Here's this video
from a fighter pilot, you know,

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here's this video that was filmed here, here's this video here, look at

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this. We zoomed in on this
once you could get a better look at

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the object, you know, evidence, you know what I mean. So,

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from what I understand, they charged
quite a bit more. And then

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the saint of a man, David
Politis is going to be there to speak,

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and I guess that probably that probably
dragged the number up quite a bit

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on the on the ticket. If
you guys out there want to see us

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at that, here's what you gotta
do. We need one hundred and eighty

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nine dollars times three. Send that
over and we'll go and film it and

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we'll get into some trouble at that
conference. And I mean, where where's

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this conference at? It's in Covington? What, Yeah, David Politis is

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coming to Covington. Yeah, Or
if you guys could just send us a

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couple of bucks, we'll try to
stay outside and then we'll just people on

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the way out. We'll just kidnap
them, do that. We won't do

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that, So we're gonna edit that
out. Yeah, so we can get

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into something in the future that would
be nice. Joe, calm it down,

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Calm down YouTube, he's the missing
for one one. You don't grab

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the Missing for one one guy.
Yeah, he probably like the worst guy

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karate move and like knock me on
my ass. That would be great for

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our show, Like Tyler got his
ass kick. But if it polite is,

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yeah, he probably like swallows those
little apple uh what are the air

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tags before every show, trying to
take me Tyler? Right, yeah,

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I bet well you know what would
happen if if you did anything to David

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Politis Tyler, Like, seriously,
what you would have? David Polis and

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you're just hugging him to you and
you're like, all right, David,

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I'm sorry, but I'm taking you
home to my house and I'm gonna talk

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to you and i'm gonna film it, and all of a sudden, your

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phone's gonna ring and Liam Neeson's gonna
be on the other end, and it's

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gonna be like, I don't know
where you are, but I have a

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particular set of skills. Last fucking
you don't tell him. Jesus, he's

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got an hour thirty minutes to find
you and kill you. You know what

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I mean. You gotta Hi Neeson. I want to talk to him too.

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Yeah. Would you trade David Politis
for Liam Neeson? It'd be tough,

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but I might. It depends on
the timeframe. Hey, rob Roy.

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Rob Roy was a great movie.
Like, I just love him to

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talk to me, like, just
tell me his life story in his monotoon

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voice. Yeah, like over like
a glass of scotch was like one ice

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cube, just rattling around. Yeah. And I don't feel like i'd have

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any good questions. It would just
be like, do you remember when you

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were in Rob Roy? You remember
when you were in Into the Gray?

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It was awesome. That was awesome. Remember when you were in One Thousand

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Ways to Die in the West,
It was awesome. He made a Scottish

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cowboy, makes sense? Or Irish
cowboy? I'm sorry, hate Yeah,

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that's a great man. Maybe I
don't know, Tyler, Maybe maybe this

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plan is a good one. I
don't know. Now, would you would

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you trade Liam Neeson for Rob Lowe? Right? So you get you get

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celebrity, you know, you get
you get an outsider, but you also

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get a guy that does cryptid stuff
steak Golden pony boy. I don't know.

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I would like to hear Liam Neeson's
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feel like he'd be like, it's
a bunch of bullshit, you know what

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I mean. He's just gonna be
like in a real heavy Fisherman sweater and

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be like, is it true that
these tricks act only for children? I

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won't be bothered back to my house. Huh. AnyWho you want to send

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us to? I mean, are
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this? I mean, think about
it us at the UFO convention. If

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you said a thousand dollars each,
we'll go to like five different places.

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Dude, we'll actually release the doves
out of the fucking limo like Tyler wants

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to do. Well. I mean, thank If we've got a thousand dollars

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each, we could we could take
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could go like Mothman Festival. We
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Politis. You know, if they
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could go look for Nessie. I'm
down for Nessy, that's all. He

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cared about. Is he just wants
to release doves from the thing when we

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get out. That's that's it.
We talked about this too, Like I

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thought, or like when he said
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he said that he wanted the Patreons
to send doves. I didn't. I

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misheard him. So I'm like,
really, you want him to actually send

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the bird and we have to save
them all and then you gotta feed him.

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Howsamina, If they're gonna send doves, they should send the chocolate or

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the soap freaking one's delicious ones useful
like we get so we don't lose them.

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We can put leashes on them and
we just tie them to our belts.

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The doves, yeah, just walking
around these these tired birds trying to

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stay afloat above us. They have
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I'll like, we'll get a backpack
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up the perch. Oh, I
see it, This dove shit everywhere.

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Yeah, Tyler, you're gonna be
covered and shit. Well, if you

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guys out there aren't convinced yet to
send us, how much are we going

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for here? I was just saying
one hundred and eighty nine eight, So

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we could get he's already up to
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Yeah, if he's got us like
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But I'm down if we get fifty
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could go see Champie, We could
go you know, you could go to

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Australian see the the yippie awe they
awe? Is it? Yeah? Is

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it? What is it? The
awe? We could go up the fucking

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Todd Standings and have a sasquatch encounter
with him out in the woods. Oh,

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I don't think he experience. Yeah, I don't think he can say,

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you know, encounter because that yeah, okay, yeah, false advertisement.

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It's all about it's all about the
word play there on that way.

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It's the experience. It's just like
when you're a musician, you're gigging out,

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you're doing it for experience. Yeah, Brian, Okay, Brian hasn't

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said anything, He never made a
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He's going up there to do that. And I'm like, man, I

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don't want to, like, I
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but I feel like I know why
Brian's going, because I seriously think that

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he's thinking something real similar to us
about this. He's like, Okay,

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yeah, but let's go have an
experience, you know what I mean.

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But I don't want to put words
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Maybe he's like, maybe he's going
up there for a profound thing. I

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don't know, but I feel like
he's I feel like he's gonna have his

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his his what he called his thinking
cap on his police force cap. I

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don't know. I don't got a
better word for it. One hundred and

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eighty nine dollars each, and you
could send this to the UFO convention.

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It's like two fifty each for to
get us in the room with David Politis.

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Oh let's see, that's that sounds
a lot better than fifty grand.

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I'm just saying that you're saving all
kinds of bargains, bargains. I'm actually

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saving the money right now. And
I mean worst case scenario, if only

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one person sends one hundred and some
dollars, then we'll just get beer.

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Oh yes, we need to calm
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we don't like chairs. We have
it just has been well, I

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feel like tonight's a rare night because
yeah, so go ahead, I've got

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something I just thought of. It
just popped in my head out of nowhere.

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I'm sorry. I didn't mean interrupt, Tyler. Oh, I was

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just saying, like, this is
a rare night because we're recording the night

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oh Thursday, so we normally have
our episode already done and we do it

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early on Sunday mornings. So I
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There was no there was no way. I don't even think I woke up

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that day. I don't even think
I'm woke up now. Is this what

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I was gonna say? Was so
when I made the comment in our private

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chat today when you were sending all
of those links to all of those different

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shows, and I made the comment
of antique road show with special guest a

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millennial, Yeah, I had no
idea that how accurate it was. Considering

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what you said. That'll be great, man, if we go to the

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UFO thing and we meet any fans, you can give him a shiny nickel.

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I'm gonna keep a pack of Worthers
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mix up some fucking uht a musel
every now to fairy Josh Drick Death,

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who's pushing my wheelchair? Did we
forget? Did we forget his wheelchair again?

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We gave you like a little Askell
Come on, Grandpa. So,

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um, you guys want to check
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is extremely long, Okay, but
I didn't watch the whole thing because I'm

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like, dude, I want to
watch this with the dudes. Yeah,

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I have. I got the stream
of the congressional hearing that was that happened

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today. This it actually happened this
morning. Um, at the same time

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they were hearing the thing about Hunter
Biden, which is weird but uh interesting.

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check out some of this. Like

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I said, I know it's long, but I thought that we could maybe

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we could, you know, commentate, we could pause if you know what

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I mean, if something interesting or
whatever, I'm down, but we got

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to make sure that we wherever the
sources we gotta say because we're we'll get

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our honey spink by YouTube. Okay, okay, this is from the Associated

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Press and this is also on YouTube. Incidentally enough, YouTube is the same

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ones that demonetize us on a regular
basis. You should be familiar with them

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by now. All right, here
we go, check us out. Let's

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let's see what they have to say. Come to order, Welcome everyone,

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without objection. The Chair may declare
a recess at any time. Additionally,

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without objection, the following members are
waved onto the subcommittee for the purpose of

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participating in the day's hearing. Mister
Burchand of Tennessee, Miss Luna Florida,

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Mister Gets to Florida, Mister Burlison
of Missouri, missus Ocazio Cortes in New

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York, and mister Oglis of Tennessee. Without objections, So ordered for today's

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subcommittee hearing, both the Chair and
ranking member will have ten minutes for opening

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remarks. We may both be giving
some of those minutes to other members.

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Was our party. I'm now going
to recognize myself for ten minutes, shameless

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plug about four, and then we'll
give it to some of my friends over

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here. Good morning, and welcome
to the mostly exciting, the most exciting

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subcommittee in Congress this week, the
Subcommittee on National Security of the Boarder in

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Foreign Affairs for discussion of Unidentified Anomalous
phenomenon a balloon on his head before he

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got a birth now such as such
as the witnesses on the panel today for

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sharing their stories on how they've been. He didn't really sell it when he

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said he was this was like super
exciting curiosity and speculation from all walks of

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life. It would have been generated
interest in studying what UAP I am about

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to ship and what threat they may
pose. I will say that when I

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was younger in school, I read
a book, a nineteen sixty six book

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called Flying Saucers Serious Business, And
for a while, when I was a

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little bit younger, I thought it
was the most important issue out there,

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the lack of transparency regarding UAPs,
which was one of the themes of that

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book. Um um Oh lost his
place suffering it's interest in studying what UAPs

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are and frets they poles um The
lack of transparency regarding UAPs is field wild

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speculation and debate for decades, eroding
public trust in the very institutions that are

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meant to serve and protect them.
As his evidence, by the large number

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of people we have here, what
do you think the pump over the right?

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Sixty six President Gerald Ford in the
UFO in in nineteen sixty nine.

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I want to say maple Sarah,
Jimmy Carter claimed, because you can't see

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it because of the thing. You
know, the sub would barrier. But

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they're all having pancakes. National Authorization
Act of twenty twenty two established the can't

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see the guy to the left a
little bit. He's actually it's kind of

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got pancakes. He looks the Department
Agencies to identify and investigate UAPs. However,

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a roro's budget remains classified prohibiting,
meaning okay, that's to pause for

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a second. Do you guys notice
how much these these guys love their intros.

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Yeah, Like they find like seventeen
different ways to say the same shit

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I want. It is. Does
somebody like come up and tell them,

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like, hey, you got fifteen
minutes to Phil, can you intro that

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long? And he's like, oh
fuck, yeah, dude, I can

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intro all the fucking day. Yeah. Like I get this like like skin

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rash that I can talk about for
fifteen minutes. Let's see what this dude

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has to say. Because this guy
he's in trowing, I feel like he's

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I really wish they would like pass
like baton or something like that. Great

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a tackle each thank everybody for that
would be awesome. Like you throw says

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how bad is party politics? I
think the chairs for the press up goes

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a lot than that. They're sitting
on the floor ala elementary school kids side

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me here, they have like they
can't they're not allowed to stand up because

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they would block the vision mind and
of both like people that are talking to

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that dude behind him has humongous pupils
here, but Matt, yeah, yeah,

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he is trying not to show airports. That's the one. And the

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one that's got an incredible as like
the city beard or the one that literally

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looks like he's about the fart that
dud okay, yeah, the fartnesses.

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But they's granted some statements on this
subject and unanimous consent to enter those statements

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into the record. Mister Chairman,
without objection, also would like to enter

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in I understand now that this is
unclassified. It's public record, but as

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we all know, that's sometimes difficult
for the public to get a hold of

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a report. Defense Intelligence reference documents, Advanced space propulsion based on vacuum spacetime

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metric engineering. Some light reading for
some of our members, without objection,

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thank you, um you know mister
Knapp wrote, since nineteen sixty nine,

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the position our military has been that
UFOs posed no threat to national security and

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are not worthy of further study.
I'd say that's the biggest understatement of the

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decade. He also goes on to
talk about the dismissive attitude. I mean,

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just pausing real quick here for saying
this is happening in our time.

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You know what I mean? This
is I mean, okay, I'm not

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trying to make light of it.
I know we make we make some jokes

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while we watch it, But if
you think about it for a second,

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this isn't just a punch of assholes
hanging out, you know, talking about

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UFO stuff in whatever, like these
are all fucking government leaders getting together like

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okay, here, let's put our
cards on the table here, let's see

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what we actually have. I like
the fact that this is happening in our

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time just blows my mind. Like
I don't know why, I just think

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that's it's nuts. All right,
Let's uh, let's keep on. You

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guys want to kind of skip there
a little bit, just see what some

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of these guys have to say or
what Yeah, because most of it's just

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introducing themselves. Yeah. See,
okay, once we get to this,

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it's the actual test, like you
know, yeah, oh we got a

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commercial. Well you're going to edit
this out because if not, we're gonna

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be getting somebody else's commercial. Let
me fix that. Yeah, the first

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twenty minutes of that was absolutely them
talking about talking about it. Yeah,

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okay, here we go. The
button on the microphone in front of you

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so that it's on and the members
can hear you. When you begin to

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speak, the light in front of
you will turn green. After four minutes,

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it'll turn yellow in the red light. When that comes out tells you

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your five minutes have expired. I'll
now recognize mister Graves, and you got

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to do the quarter mile as fast
as you can consistently. Chairman Grothman,

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Ranking Member Garcia, Distinguished Members of
the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security,

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Representative Burchett and Luna. My name
is Ryan Fob's Graves, and I'm a

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former FA Team pilot with a decative
service in the US Navy, including two

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deployments in Operation and During Freedom and
Operation Inherent Resolve. I have experienced advanced

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UAP firsthand, and I'm here to
voice the concerns of more than thirty commercial

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aircrew and military veterans who have confided
their similar encounters with me. Today,

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I would like to highlight three critical
issues that demand our action as we convene

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here. UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly underreported. These

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sightings are not rare or isolated.
They are routine. Military aircrew and commercial

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pilots. Trained observers who've b LIB
depend on accurate identification of frequently witnessing these

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phenomenons. This sigma attached to UAP
is real and powerful and challenges national security.

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It silences commercial pilots who fear professional
repercussions, discourages witnesses. It is

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only compounded by recent government claims questioning
the credibility of eyewitness testimony. Parts of

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our government are aware of more about
UAP than they led on excessive classification practices

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keep crucial information hidden. Since twenty
twenty one, all UAP videos are classified

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as secret or above. This level
of secrecy not only impedes our understanding,

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but fuel speculation and mistrust. In
twenty fourteen, I was an F eighteen

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Fox Shop pilot in the Navy Fighter
Attack Squadron eleven. The red rippers and

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I was stationed to nas Oceania in
Virginia Beach. After upgrades were made to

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our jets radar systems, we began
detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace.

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At first we assume they were rad
our errors, but soon we began to

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00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.240
correlate the radar tracks with multiple onboard
sensors, including infrared systems, eventually through

400
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:01.440
visual ID. During a training mission
in Mourning Area at Whisky seventy two,

401
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.160
ten miles off the coast of Virginia
Beach, two f eighteen Super Hornets were

402
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.279
split by UAP. The object,
described as a dark gray or a black

403
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:14.079
cube inside of a clear sphere,
came within fifty feet of the lead aircraft

404
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.119
and was estimated to be five to
fifteen feet in diameter. The mission commander

405
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.640
terminated the flight immediately and returned base. Our squadrons submitted a safety port,

406
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.359
but there was no official acknowledgment of
the incident and no further mechanism to report

407
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.119
the sightings. Soon, these encounters
became so frequent that aircrew would discussed the

408
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:37.279
risk of UAP as part of their
regular pre flight briefs, recognizing the need

409
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:42.559
for action and answers. I founded
Americans for Safe Aerospace. The organization has

410
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.480
since become a habit for UAP witnesses
who were previously unspoken due to the absence

411
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.440
of a safe intake process. More
than thirty witnesses have come forward in almost

412
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.480
five thousand Americans have joined us in
the fight for a transparency at Safe Aerospace

413
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:59.559
dot org. The majority of witnesses
are commercial pilots at majority major airlines.

414
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:04.559
Often they are veterans with decades of
flying experience. Pilots are reporting up at

415
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.960
altitudes that appear above them at forty
thousand feet, potentially in low earth orbit

416
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.800
or in the gray zone blow the
carbon line, making inexplainable maneuvers like right

417
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.840
hand turns and retrograde orbits or jay
hooks. Sometimes these reports are reoccurring,

418
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.800
with numerous recent sightings north of Way
and in the North of Atlantic. Other

419
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:29.320
veterans are also coming forward to us
regarding UAP encounters in our airspace and oceans.

420
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.880
The most compelling involved observations of UAP
by multiple witnesses and sensor systems.

421
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.400
I believe these accounts are only scratching
the surface, and more will share their

422
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.960
experiences once it is safe to do
so. In closing, I recognize the

423
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.920
skepticism surrounding this topic. If everyone
can see the censor and video data eyewitness,

424
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.039
our national conversation would change. I
urge us to put a size stigma

425
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.199
and address the security and safety issue
this topic represents. If up a foreign

426
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:59.639
drones is an urgent national security problem, if it is something else is an

427
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.679
issue science in either case, and
identified objects are concerned for flight safety,

428
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.320
the American people deserve to know what
is happening in our skies is long overdue.

429
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:19.119
Thank you. I had, I
had a I had a weird thing.

430
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.960
Okay, I'm gonna throw a conspiracy
out here. Yeah. And I

431
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:30.920
feel like people's probably said this,
Okay, what's the best Like I've always

432
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.679
heard that, Like you've always heard
this term the best way to hide is

433
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:40.800
in plain sight. So do you
feel like all these whistleblowers that are popping

434
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:52.039
up and start the like push the
agenda of UAPs or UFOs aliens because of

435
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:58.679
how much like like fuel it's got. Do you feel like these are government

436
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:04.320
plants that they are going in front
like Congress, like what like this whole

437
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:09.920
thing is real under real, Like
they actually go in front of our actual

438
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:16.119
Congress and talk about these things,
but other parts of our government are pulling

439
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:27.360
the strings of these people to kind
of pushcause yeah, kind of like in

440
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:34.000
a way both to show that that
there's people out there that no more information,

441
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.239
because I feel like that's the best
way. Let's give a little bit,

442
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.119
a little bit by a little bit, and then we'll stop because we

443
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:45.800
perfectly honest, Like, come on, I'm in a show that talks about

444
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.519
weird shit and I haven't really heard
really much of this until today, right,

445
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.719
Like, so what like, I
feel like you get your fill because

446
00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:00.239
most of the American people, most
of your Joe schmoo, just average person

447
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.599
doesn't care like they like I have
to go to fucking work tomorrow, and

448
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.480
most people feel that way, but
they have this in the back of their

449
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:16.320
mind. So granted, if the
government does know does have space like alien

450
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:30.199
spacecrafts and and or have aliens like
corpses or living aliens, you believe that

451
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:36.960
they would never disclose that information.
There's no fucking way that's actually uh that

452
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.480
what you just said is a big
part of this. Today. Um,

453
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.320
I was driving home and on the
radio they played a clip of them talking

454
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:53.599
about captured biologics. But that's but
I feel like that's another thing too.

455
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:59.719
It's like they'll give you somewhat of
it's in pieces, but no one ever

456
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.480
is I want to believe you.
It's kind of like this whole, like

457
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:07.079
the whole Bigfoot thing. It's like, even if the government knew or people

458
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:13.320
have seen something, there's so much
shit that's on the internet that will make

459
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.239
you not believe it. So you
just pass it off. You always sit

460
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.400
there and wonder is it true?
Is it fake? That's why every time

461
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.599
you get a call like is this
a is this a scammer or what like,

462
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.519
you can't just go out and just
listen to somebody and say this is

463
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.039
the truth. Somebody's always trying to
pull the wool over your eyes. It

464
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.960
doesn't matter if it's a friend,
a co worker, a fucking boss,

465
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.199
the guy at the fucking seven eleven, which fuck him, he was a

466
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:54.639
dick today. Those beside the point. I digress, like more beneath the

467
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:00.320
surface here that it may have happened. I don't know. Yeah, I

468
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.400
don't know. I personally think that
I know, I've I've said this before.

469
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.039
I'm kind of maintaining this is uh. People give the government a lot

470
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:16.800
of credit. And I definitely think
that they they hide shit when it directly

471
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:22.280
involves their their pocket money. If
it involves they're walking around money, Yeah,

472
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.159
they're folding money. Yeah they're like, oh no, let's not talk

473
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.239
about that, or you kind of
can say it like this, like some

474
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.119
of their folding money, like your
folding moneys came unstowed back here, and

475
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.719
like that's the whistleblowers just go to
stuff it back in there. But yeah,

476
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:45.679
but like you think, like if
UFOs get like definitively proven today,

477
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:54.000
I doubt that some oil tycoon is
sitting there like fuck, he's probably like

478
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.559
okay, yeah, you know what
I mean, like does he care,

479
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.199
Like he's not gonna go a ship. There's pharmaceutical companies are gonna be like,

480
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.760
oh my god, your phos today
proven. Oh this is gonna be

481
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.079
bad. This is gonna be so
bad. No anything, You're gonna sell

482
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.039
more drugs. Yeah, I was
just about to say it, Oh I

483
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:20.280
wonder what new diseases that they'll have. Yeah, they get out. It's

484
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.880
gonna be sell so many drugs to
keep you keep aliens away. Yeah,

485
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.360
I might use the V word,
don't you nobody's ever going to hear this

486
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:40.199
episode. You use the V words, so please don't Volkswagen Ultron Vultron.

487
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.480
Does it have to do with something
fast? It's like a like a cylinder

488
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:54.039
with a very tiny point that it's
like, hey, yeah, okay,

489
00:40:54.320 --> 00:41:01.840
yeah, that's yeah, Darth Vader, Darth Vader. Shit, we're demonetized.

490
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.199
Uh, you can't bring up Darth
Vader. No, didn't Disney own

491
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.480
them now, so we've got to
be really careful. Oh god, yeah,

492
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:12.639
Disney snipers will be all over us. Yeah, let's see what an

493
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:19.480
excellent says. Yeah, here we
go. No, fuck, he's back.

494
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:25.400
Thank you. Okay. I want
to first thank you for the invitation

495
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.920
to speak to the committee on the
UAP topic that has been in the news

496
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:30.679
for the past six years and seems
to be continuing to game momentum. What

497
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.239
a Cdr. Standford do you know? My name is David Faber. I'm

498
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.199
retired commander in the United States Navy. In ten thousand and four, I

499
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.639
was a commanding author of Strike Fighter
Squadron forty one, the world famous This

500
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.679
is the Limits on board US has
limits and it begun a two month work

501
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.280
up cycle off the cool California.
He's the one that was on the fire

502
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.559
farther Chasetown two Air training with the
USS Princeton is our control. I thought

503
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:58.800
they said that was a joining up. You were told this is the firling

504
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.400
tic tach that goes into the proceedings. Yeah, this is the USS Nemets

505
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.079
Fighter project. We proceeded to the
west. The air controller was counting down

506
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:07.559
the range to an object that we
were going to, and we're unaware of

507
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:14.960
what we're going to see. When
we arrived there, the controller told us

508
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.639
that these objects had been observed for
over two weeks, coming down from over

509
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.280
eighty thousand feet, rapidly descending to
twenty thousand feet, hanging out for hours,

510
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.880
and then going straight back up.
For those don't realize, above eighty

511
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:30.079
thousand feet is space. We arrived
at the location of the feet and the

512
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:35.239
controller called merge plot, which means
that our radar the same resolution cell as

513
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.239
the contact. Sorry. As we
looked around, we noticed that we saw

514
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.280
some whitewater off our right side.
It's important to note that the weather on

515
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:44.119
this day was as close to perfect
as you could ask for. Off the

516
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.960
coast of San Diego, clear skies, light winds, calm seas, no

517
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.239
white caps from waves, so the
white water stood out in a large blue

518
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.480
ocean. All four of us because
we were in f eighteen s so we

519
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.480
had pilots and Whizzle in the back
seat, looked down a small, saw

520
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.239
white tic tac object with a longitudinal
access pointing north south and moving very abruptly

521
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.039
over the water like a ping pong
ball. There were no roadors, no

522
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.920
roador wash or any sign of visible
control surfaces like wings. As we started

523
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.840
clockwise towards the object, my Whizzer
and I decided to go down and take

524
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.760
a closer look at the other aircraft, staying and high covered to observe both

525
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.360
us and the tic tac. We
proceeded around the circle about ninety degrees in

526
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:24.679
the start of our descent, and
the objects suddenly shifted its longitudinal axis,

527
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.960
aligned it with my aircraft, and
began to climb. We continued down another

528
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.360
two hundred and seventy degrees nose low
where the tik Tak we can su two

529
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.440
hundred and seventy degrees to, and
we went nose load to where the tik

530
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.760
Tak would have been. Our altitude
at this point was about fifteen thousand feet

531
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.559
in the tik Tak was about twelve
thousand. As we pulled nose onto the

532
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.960
object within about a half mile of
it, it rapidly accelerated in front of

533
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.840
us and disappeared. Our wingmen roughly
eight thousand feet above us lost contact.

534
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.159
Also. We immediately turned back to
see where the white water was at and

535
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.719
it was gone also, So as
you started to turn back towards the east,

536
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:00.880
the controller came up and said,
you're not going to believe this,

537
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.679
but that thing is at your catpoint
roughly sixty miles away in less than a

538
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:07.800
minute. You can calculate the speed. We returned to Emmits. We were

539
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.920
taking off our gear. We were
talking to one of my crews. It

540
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.679
was getting ready launched. We mentioned
it to him and they went out and

541
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.000
luckily he got the video that you
see that ninety second video. What you

542
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.519
don't see is the radar taped.
It was never released and we don't know

543
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:22.119
where it's at the act of jamming
that the object put on an ATG seventy

544
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.840
three radar, and I can get
into modes later if you're interested in.

545
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.840
What is shocking to us is that
the incident was never investigated. None of

546
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.320
my crew were ever questioned, tapes
were never taken, and after a couple

547
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.800
of days of turned into great story
with friends. It wasn't until two thousand

548
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.840
and nine to Stratton had contacted me
to investigate. Unbeknown Stall, he was

549
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:43.480
part of the eight Tip program in
the Pentagon led by Lua Losando, and

550
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.400
there was an unofficial official report that
came out that's now on the internet.

551
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.639
Years later, I was contacted by
the other pilot, Alex Tetrick, and

552
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.519
asked if I'd been contact and I
said no, but I'm willing to talk.

553
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.679
I was contacted by mister Elizondo and
we talked for a short period of

554
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.840
time and he said we'd be in
contact. Few weeks after that, I

555
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.320
was made aware that lew had left
the Pentagon in protest and joined forces with

556
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.840
Tom DeLong, Chris Mell and Steve
Justice and others to form Two Stars Academy,

557
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.119
an organization that pressed the issue with
leading industry experts and US government officials.

558
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.880
They worked with Leslie Keene, who
was present today, Rob Blumenthal,

559
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.280
and Helen and Cooper to publish the
articles in The New York Times twenty seventeen

560
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.079
New York Times and It removed a
stigma on the topic of UFOs, which

561
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.000
is why we're here today. Those
articles opened the door for the government and

562
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.000
public that cannot be closed. It
has led to an interest from our elected

563
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.760
officials who are not focused on little
green men, but figuring out where these

564
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.639
craft are, where they from,
the technology they possess, how do they

565
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.800
operate. It also led to the
Whistleblower of Protection Act in the NDAA.

566
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.360
There are multi witnesses coming forward to
say that have firsthand knowledge, and mister

567
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.280
Grush has covered that. What concerns
me is that there's no oversight from our

568
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:53.360
elected officials on anything associated with our
government processing or working on craft. Believe

569
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.840
it not from this world. This
issue is not a full public disclosure that

570
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:00.440
can undermine national security, but it
is ensuring that our system of checks and

571
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.599
balances works across all work done in
the government using the taxpayer of funds.

572
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.159
Relative to government programs, even unacknowledged
wave programs, have some level of oversight

573
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.440
by the appropriate committee members in the
House and Senate, and this work that

574
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.920
is said to be occurring from whistable
or testimonies should not be exempt. In

575
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.599
closing, I would like to say
that the TikTok object we engaged in two

576
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:22.320
thousand and four was far superior to
anything that we had on time half today

577
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.000
we're looking to develop in the next
ten years if we in fact have programs

578
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.880
that possessed this technology and used to
have oversight from those people that the citizens

579
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.679
of this great country elected an office
to represent what is best of the United

580
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.440
States and best of the citizens.
I thank you for your time. Thank

581
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.400
you very much, Thank you very
much. I know it's very difficult.

582
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.199
Yeah, when he like, like
said thank you very much, I just

583
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.960
felt like you didn't mean it that
much, right, thank you very much.

584
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.639
But the one thing is is they
like I was confused about is okay

585
00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:02.639
you assume they if you, well, something like that. That's unexplained when

586
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.840
you think that they would, uh
especially just same things right now. Yeah,

587
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:14.239
my bad. Today's climate. It's
very hot out. It's not as

588
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:20.159
fun. But you would think that
they would like, hey, you say

589
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.599
nothing, not a thing, You
shut your mouth. Okay, they said

590
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:30.679
it like that to me. I
feel like he did for years. Okay,

591
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.960
So I've I've seen the interview with
Fraer and the other pilot that was

592
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.960
with him. Yeah, I think
there was actually four planes, but that

593
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.880
they first started it the whole thing. The radar guy was the one that

594
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:49.519
kind of blew the whistle on the
Nimits video. The I believe that's part

595
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.280
of it. But they were in
a training seminar or a training mission,

596
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.360
right, and the cat Point was
where they were supposed to end up.

597
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.800
It was pre programmed into the training
mission. The cat point is sixty miles

598
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.480
away that it goes from the Nimits
to the cat pointing back right, So

599
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:13.119
they're in the middle of the training, they take off and then immediately are

600
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:17.079
scrambled to this tik tak location to
figure out what the heck's going on.

601
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.079
And that's why it's so insane that
it was at the cat point, because

602
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:27.559
this tik tak not only knew that
it was close to the Nimits to begin

603
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:32.599
with, but went to the designated
area that the training was supposed to end

604
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.280
in before it returned back to the
Nimits. They went to the exact location

605
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.480
of where the training was supposed to
be held. Well, and he did

606
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:45.599
say that, like he didn't get
into that, but he didn't mention that

607
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:52.159
there was some interference that it was
causing. Yeah, yeah, jamming to

608
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:59.360
their yeah the right, yeah radar. Yeah. And his story was corroborated

609
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:04.599
by another person that was flying that
day. And I believe the first interview

610
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.880
I saw, she was actually in
shadow was talking about it because she didn't

611
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.679
want to be known. And this
is years after this happened. They were

612
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:15.000
kept in silence, you know,
for some time about this, and then

613
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.800
finally they did another interview where it's
him and her and they're talking about it,

614
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.280
and they even talk about how they
were told to keep quiet and things

615
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.079
like that, and how everybody was
making fun of them, you know,

616
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.199
little green men on their desks or
whatever, you know, that kind of

617
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:34.320
stuff, you know, like hazy, I've always are they I remember hearing

618
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:38.880
about that. Yeah, they kept
they kept finding like paper plates made into

619
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:47.880
saucers. That was the Night of
the Great Lakes. Ut a fucking dicks.

620
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.320
Yeah, what the fuck? I'm
gonna borrow one out of Tyler's book

621
00:49:53.320 --> 00:50:00.840
for a second and proposed to you
guys an alternate conspiracy theory. Don't read

622
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:07.920
my book. What if, Okay, some third party knew a way to

623
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:16.519
hack the planes and make them think
they're seeing this. I thought they actually

624
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:22.400
saw it outside the like they cock
the physically. That's how they like they

625
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.920
were. They said they were only
about a fount, like what was it

626
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.360
three thousand feet away from each other
at one point, and I thought they

627
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.119
actually came up to it. So
they said that they didn't see anything coming

628
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.480
off of it, and like no, no, like the like the thrusters

629
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:46.119
or anything, nothing really tangible to
say that it was a aircraft of something

630
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.960
that we made. What he didn't
talk about in that little clip that he

631
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:55.760
talks about in the other interviews is
that when they go out to intercept and

632
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.920
you know, he's flying way up
here, you know in the tic TACs

633
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.559
way down here. It's it's hanging
out at the water level. When they

634
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.239
start to make their turn, you
know, they've got to do a spiral

635
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:12.360
down. It's a wide ninety degree
spiral coming down. As soon as he

636
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:17.760
initiated the downward spiral, the tic
tech started spiraling back up to him,

637
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.559
like it reacted to him and it
was coming to him. And when they

638
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.760
were within three thousand feet of each
other, that's when it and it shot

639
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.239
off to where he was supposed to
go anyways, which is you know what

640
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:37.039
I mean, Like yeah, like
how would it know right? That fucking

641
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:43.079
u simulation theory is just looking worse
and worse by the day, you know

642
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.239
what I mean? It's anything.
How many top scientists are like literally like

643
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:53.280
well, yeah, when you talk
about this, the whole simulation theory,

644
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.440
they're like, well, let's it's
not looking great, but that way it's

645
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:05.079
not looking right. Yeah. I'm
just uh, I want to ask you,

646
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:12.519
guys and potentially the listeners, like
that's you, guys, yep,

647
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:20.960
what do you feel like to answer
his question? What? One hundred eighty

648
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.519
nine dollars each to answer your question? Yeah? To answer your question?

649
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:29.400
No? Um? Like what what's
the end goal? Like, what's the

650
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.440
point if this was true that they're
hiding this from us? Do you guys

651
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.159
just want to know? Or is
this like going to change your life drastically

652
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:45.480
if this is true, like there
are visitors from other worlds on this planet?

653
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:52.400
Like will this change your like literally
in your soul? You feel?

654
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:59.519
Will this change everything you? You
won't even look at anything the same anymore.

655
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.079
That's the wrong one. I'm really
not good at this. Okay,

656
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:13.639
I'm stopping. I'm sorry. What
are you trying to do? I thought

657
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:19.760
I made one I don't see it, like the last one is the insider

658
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:23.440
trading one. Yeah, I'm sorry. What's the end game? He said?

659
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.440
Yeah? What's the end game for
you? Guys? Like, especially

660
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.639
you, you and the listeners,
Like what do you guys? Like,

661
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:35.239
what's the end game for yourself?
Like? Is this going to change everything

662
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.039
for you? Or you're literally just
going to get it back of your day

663
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:42.199
to day shit? Are you going
to make changes because of the Personally?

664
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:50.800
I'm with the first speaker, Okay, he said, it's it's either a

665
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:59.880
foreign country doing it, which is
a national security problem, or it's it's

666
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:05.440
some other entity doing it, which
is a science problem. I'm for that.

667
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.639
I'm like, either one of those, we need to know. Yeah,

668
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.320
in my opinion, we need to
know. And either way, it's

669
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.599
it's information that we should have.
But that's what I'm saying. It's like,

670
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.239
do you feel that we need to
know that? Do we do we

671
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.239
really need to know that? Yes? I feel like it's a good idea

672
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:27.320
too. Yeah, because American people
like why, like what, I'm a

673
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.320
I'm American, I'm an American citizen. I feel that, yes, we

674
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.639
do need to know that. It's
because the more aware you are what you

675
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:38.719
know, for forewarned is forearmed?
Right? Is that the right right way

676
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.119
to say? Do I say it
right? I don't know, but literally

677
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:49.119
it's like why wouldn't you want to
know that? Yeah? I get that

678
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:54.519
part, you know, But what
I'm getting at is like, what can

679
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.320
I do no matter what, like
the outcome of this, even if it

680
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:06.679
is a like foreign uh it's a
foreign country that's screwing with us or yeah,

681
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:12.119
they're trying to infiltrate just kind of
like in a way that they think

682
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.440
that we just a bunch of roles
because stupid Americans that they could just do

683
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.119
it this way. They're like,
oh, they'll just think it's a UFO.

684
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:24.880
Okay. So if if say it
was a foreign country and they figured

685
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.519
out a way to fuck with our
pilots, state of the art birds up

686
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:37.280
there, right, Yeah, like
top of the line technology being used and

687
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:44.119
they're just fucking with them. Do
you really think they're not gonna fuck with

688
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:52.039
you? That's hard to do,
We're easy. The next thing you do

689
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:53.440
is you you go to get in
your car and you go to stop to

690
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:58.880
get gas and your bank account has
been drained. Yeah, yeah, I

691
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:05.119
totally get that. The I feel
like the hard look at this is no

692
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:12.079
matter if that's true. I feel
like that it's screwed either way because like

693
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:19.880
this, like the government has,
like we spend so much money on military

694
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:28.960
and advancement of everything military. If
they're screwing with them my fucking thousand dollars

695
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:35.639
computer and like barely like the weapons
I have, it's not going to protect

696
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.079
me in any way. I get
we're from it's like this, at least

697
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:45.119
I'm aware of it. I'm aware
of the threat that it's all lurking around.

698
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:51.039
That at least keeps me on my
toes. Uh. But like and

699
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:55.440
especially like, but what scares me
the most about the whole thing is if

700
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:01.199
it is aliens, and like what
like what do I do? Like if

701
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:07.679
they're not willing to come out and
actually try to communicate with us in any

702
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:15.480
ways they could like they like there's
no way of defending against that, Like

703
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:20.000
they're like, what can we do? What can I do? I think

704
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:25.960
that there's me theost idea is to
get the government get the ball rolling on

705
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:31.639
figuring out better ways to study and
analyze you know, we we are Like

706
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.679
there's a big argument now where it's
like, well they if they if they're

707
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:37.679
here studying and they're looking at us
and all this, why aren't they communicating?

708
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:46.320
They might not be able to communicate
with us. We use essentially,

709
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:54.559
we use gestures and language and noise
that makes sense to us. They might

710
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.920
not be able to. They might
actually speak using their mind, which is

711
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:07.960
something that we are not able to
do. Our brain wasn't developed that way

712
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:13.920
because in an evolutionary way, there's
no benefit for it for us. You

713
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.559
know, we don't even use pheromones
to communicate. They could use pheromones.

714
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.639
I mean, there might be a
lot of different Look at the way that

715
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.840
animals communicate on Earth to each other, and there's no way that we can.

716
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:27.079
I mean, yeah, certain animals
we can, you know, train

717
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.960
dogs, you know, and things
like that. But you know, if

718
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:35.599
you're out anywhere, you're not going
to be able to you know, you're

719
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:38.599
not going to walk through the woods
and make a noise and let all the

720
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:42.280
other deer know they need to look
out because there's a bear over there.

721
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:47.079
Yeah, they're not going to react
to your noise in an educated ways,

722
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.239
right, That's it could very well
be the exact same thing. Yeah,

723
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:58.639
also too, is this these could
be drones. They could be drones from

724
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.320
a long ass way away, so
they might they might not even be in

725
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:07.000
there to communicate with us. The
fact is is that we need to know

726
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:13.760
if this is one of us or
something, or it's not. If it's

727
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.719
not one of us, then we
need to try to understand, you know,

728
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:22.639
like like okay, hey, look
they they don't move like us,

729
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.440
they don't do this like us.
They're using this for propulsion. We need

730
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:30.719
better sensors, we need better things
to understand how they're maneuvering. We need

731
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:36.719
to start developing these technologies. You
know, if you get definitive proof that

732
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:43.400
these are not from here. Oh, I promise you, every scientist in

733
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.480
the world is going to be interested
all of a sudden. Yeah, Like

734
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:57.400
I feel like any more of a
curiosity mindset. I want to know.

735
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:02.119
I want to believe, Like I
want to know what's out there. If

736
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:07.000
it is out there, even if
it is drones from somewhere far far away,

737
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:13.039
not it's not of human origin.
I would like to know. It

738
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:19.800
would be fascinating to me. But
still I don't understand why they would want

739
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.599
us to tell us. Why would
they want the government would want to say

740
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:29.119
anything? Because no matter what,
a lot of this would change in people's

741
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:35.559
eyes. And then next you know, the whole kind of work, spend

742
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.800
money, work, spend money,
work more. It spend more money,

743
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:43.840
work, work, works money.
It could it could tip the scales in

744
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:47.639
in a certain way. A lot
of this way of this economy would try

745
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:55.000
like would topple in on itself because
people are wondering what is next, just

746
01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.280
because yeah, I can understand that
we've been seeing these things. People have

747
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:06.960
been seeing these things for years,
for decades. If they were like going

748
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:13.400
to harm us, they probably would
have done it by now, and or

749
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:19.440
there could have been a multiple types
of civilizations that are visiting us, like

750
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:25.440
because we're we're really primitive, like
every every aspect of the way. So

751
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:30.840
what I'm kind of like saying is
is that it's like, like, what

752
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.639
are we going to do? And
I feel like that's the reason why I

753
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:38.760
don't think they'll ever give us full
information about the whole thing, even though

754
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:43.320
that I really do want to know, giving them the benefit of the doubt,

755
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:50.119
it seems like they're trying to get
the public behind us, because a

756
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:54.880
lot of this ship doesn't really take
off without the public backing it. Well,

757
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:58.760
and that scares me the most too, is like like how I was

758
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.400
going back to my conspiracy theory.
If these are plants, then this gives

759
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:09.480
us the government trying to win us
over in a way to give them either

760
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:15.679
more support, more money to just
basically do what they want with it.

761
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:20.679
And that's why and I think the
government looks to us for support for that.

762
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.159
They don't give a shit what we
think what they spend. Well,

763
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.400
no matter was like it get like, well that's the thing, Like,

764
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:32.400
Uh, what I hate the most
is that everybody keeps talking about uh like

765
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.480
giving like defund the police, this, that and the other thing, or

766
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:44.199
we don't need the Second Amendment.
Like I'm not saying I'm not trying to

767
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:49.599
give my life to like to somebody
I don't know. I like, I

768
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.559
get it. I love this country
for what it is. I love the

769
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:55.880
people that are in it. But
I feel like giving so much power to

770
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:05.440
a certain certain group tends to end
badly, Like it always ends badly for

771
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:12.400
everybody that's like literally breaks her back
day in and day out to provide for

772
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:15.360
their families. And that's what scares
me the most, is that why I

773
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:22.039
That's why I never can take anything
that is said online at face value.

774
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:27.599
It scares me the most because I
can't trust anybody out there with these like

775
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:31.320
with these words, and I don't
want to like freak anybody out. But

776
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:37.000
this is how I see the world, because it's how the world is to

777
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:45.920
me. Okay, sorry, man, I mean I get it. I'm

778
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.559
just I'm kind of I got a
little lost in the translation there as all.

779
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:57.440
I'm like, where are we at
with that? Like what if that

780
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:04.000
directly like affects this what we're talking
about here, Like what's like what's the

781
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:09.480
fear that it's just like a ruse
or something like it's just trying to get

782
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:14.760
everybody to what, yeah, to
to kind of submit to everything, like

783
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.079
to kind of like destroy the weight
we kind of keep things in balance and

784
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:23.159
for the most part, because you
know, for a fact, if we

785
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:28.039
give away half of our our rights
and stuff and say like, okay,

786
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.440
government, you take care of us, it's it. I feel like it

787
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.800
will fall down on us. So
I mean, is that what you're saying

788
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:39.039
Like that They're like, Okay,
it's aliens, so we're gonna need you

789
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.440
to turn in your guns. Well, yeah, like to basically, like

790
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.760
I wouldn't say they did, just
turn like you do it just you know

791
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:47.159
what I mean. I'm trying to
understand. I'm trying to see point A

792
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:53.199
two point b here, Like how
do they use it to control the public,

793
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.360
because that's like that, That's the
whole step where I'm getting lost is

794
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.519
like you release information about UFOs,
You come out and you say, hey,

795
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:05.840
we don't fucking know, we're trying
to figure it out. You release

796
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:15.760
that out. How do you get
from that to population like control? That's

797
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.440
where I'm lost, Like how does
that happen? I guess I don't know.

798
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:23.800
I guess I just you know what
I mean, though, like see,

799
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:25.880
yeah, you're right, I will. I'll leave it at that.

800
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.800
I don't. I think I think
myself a whole years. I think Tyler's

801
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:36.360
onto something. Yeah, but I
think it's the opposite of what he's thinking.

802
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.440
If that makes sense? What do
you mean? So? Okay,

803
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:46.039
if say, for an example,
like right now, we're we're teetering on

804
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:49.599
the edge of like a World War
three thing going on, right, Okay,

805
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:57.760
So what if some of these other
countries beat us to the punch and

806
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:02.679
release information, definitive information as a
matter of fact, information regarding to this

807
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:10.719
subject that is immediately going to put
so much distrust in the American people to

808
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:14.000
its government, because there's a lot
of people that just blindly trust the government.

809
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:15.000
You know, There's people like us
that are like, well, they

810
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.480
can fuck up a gas can,
why would I believe anything they say.

811
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.880
But there's a lot of people that
are just like, you know, they

812
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.239
know what they're doing, They're doing
the right thing or whatever. You know,

813
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:30.039
So what if this is a beating
it to the punch situation. So

814
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.480
it is a manner of control,
but not in the sense that they're going

815
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:42.000
to use the information itself to control
us. It's the release of the information

816
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:50.920
to control us. Okay, is
that where somewhat? What does that put

817
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:57.119
the actual information? Is it just
false? I mean, honestly, at

818
01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:00.480
this point it could go either way. It's kind of propaganda. I guess

819
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.480
I would say, with my with
my theory, what I'm what I was

820
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.559
taken from it, the way I
was seeing it is it doesn't matter what

821
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:11.599
the information is is if it is
true and it hasn't been told to us

822
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:17.840
that it's true, And say the
Russian government releases information, evidence and proof

823
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:23.559
that this is true and then releases
the fact that our government also knew it

824
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:29.079
was true, you know what I
mean. Then it's like, you have

825
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.480
this serious distrust. It could be
about anything. You could have it about

826
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:35.760
the JFK assassination. If some of
the country tells us, hey, your

827
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:40.239
guys' own country knew about this shit. Okay, they've been lying to you

828
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:43.400
the entire time. That's kind of
where I was getting lost. It's like,

829
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.920
how do you go from from this
to civil distrusts? Right? And

830
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.119
that makes that makes sense to me, Like, Okay, you release it,

831
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:55.079
you beat somebody else to the punch, and then it makes their people

832
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:58.800
have civil distrusts. Right. It's
kind of like the old sitcom thing,

833
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.000
all right, you know, like, so this has happened. It's a

834
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.440
sitcon trope. You know. So
you've got X group of people here and

835
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:10.519
this person and this person are dating, right, then then you've got this

836
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:15.480
person who messes around on this person
with this person. Well, this person

837
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:18.159
knows about it, and it is
trying to beat this person back to the

838
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.399
group. Whoever tells it first is
going to look like the honest person.

839
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:34.079
Okay, means trust you know,
so if if you know Julie and I

840
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:36.680
can't think of a guy's name that
is on the show. Todd. All

841
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:42.239
right, so Julie and Todd are
dating. Todd steps out on Julie and

842
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:48.159
is with Catherine. Catherine's friend Paul
knows about this, but also knows Julie

843
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:55.359
if Todd is the second person,
if Todd is the second person to tell

844
01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:00.800
Julie, yeah, I think there's
no reason to trust Todd ever again,

845
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.720
Yeah, fu Todd. I mean, there's no reason to trust him because

846
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:06.840
he stepped out on his old lady. But there's even less reason because then

847
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:13.640
it's not being honest and coming clean, it's admitting to being caught. Yeah.

848
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:17.159
I mean, I know I'm making
like extreme stretches here, like the

849
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:20.479
corn syrup is going to come out
of mister Armstrong any second. Now.

850
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:25.439
I've got it stretched way out.
But that's that's where I was. I

851
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:30.560
don't know. I was in a
sun for eight fucking hours. So yeah,

852
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.159
maybe that's what's going on. Where
we all baked, like where we

853
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:38.239
literally like we were, we were
we were microwave today. I mean,

854
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:40.800
look at me compared to you guys. I'm not even the same color as

855
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.239
you guys. Oh yeah, dude, I have bright white lights on me

856
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:49.920
right now to tell you can see
me. I don't tan. I burn

857
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:56.520
like my forehead is almost read as
an apple. Does that help. I'm

858
01:09:56.600 --> 01:10:04.279
over here being racially ambiguous. I've
got the bright white light too. I'm

859
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:09.600
really cooked. I think though,
we should pause on this, and I'm

860
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.720
gonna say this, and I think
we should pick up on this on the

861
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:17.119
next episode and keep going because I'm
regardless of what happens with it, I

862
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.159
want to hear the rest of it. And I know it's already we've already

863
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:24.159
got like an hour or something going
here. Do you guys, do you

864
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.479
guys go with that? Like sounds
great? All right, well come back

865
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:30.560
on the next one and well we'll
dig into this a little bit more.

866
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:35.399
It's just fascinating regardless, you know, roll tape, roll tape one hundred

867
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:40.560
and eighty nine dollars a piece,
and we get we'll go there after my

868
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:43.640
tangent. I don't think they won't
need to go. Oh yeah, you

869
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:46.119
need Tyler in there asking these these
things. I feel like I had you

870
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:49.880
on the rebound there, buddy.
Yeah, you know, you may just

871
01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:54.880
don't don't like shit on it,
because I didn't fucking get it. That's

872
01:10:54.920 --> 01:11:01.319
not fair. I just didn't get
it. I've obviously been drinking. There's

873
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.760
all kinds of shit I don't Jude, I didn't understand half of the ship.

874
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:09.880
The guy on the video was saying, But I'm sitting there like you

875
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:16.319
a foos you know. Wow.
Yeah, anyway you can get out there.

876
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:21.640
This all could also be, you
know, a nice little distraction from

877
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:27.079
the fact that Uter Biden, Tony
Montana's you know, hanging out in the

878
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:38.600
White House. Sad ah h enjoy
a refreshing coke. Mhmm, yeah,

879
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:43.159
have a coke and a smile,
right, yeah, yeah, it's all

880
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:53.640
about reading between the white lines.
Nice all right, So unless our show

881
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.760
gets just you take him off there
completely. We'll see you on the next

882
01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:09.279
but take care of each other.
See you, guys. We yet,

883
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:16.399
when did you change the vault your
approa