S347: Did Claudia Ackley really see a bigfoot out there?

0:00 Files Season three with your hosts Dennis Mays, Tyler Stewarts, and to Josh Gibbs. Don't forget to subscribe to us on your YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also visit us at www. Dots ky x Files dot com And now onto our show. You know what what I hate, what I absolutely hate is um the what do you call it? What do they call the megafauna? You know, the Prestorage mammals. Yeah, what I hate is that they you know, they give you the best guests, you know, and I know that science has come up with a lot of answers for some of their behaviors and like their diets and stuff like that, but they're like, without a doubt, the top two most scary aggressive things to walk during, like when the megafauna was around, was the groundsloth and the mastodon. Yeah, and if you happen to be in between those two and they were about to tangle, you're a goner. Like they would just take you out. They wouldn't even notice that you were there.

1:15 Like mastodons all, like most of the skeletons were covered, all have damage from other mastodons on them, like tusk marks and shit, like even mammoths didn't didn't screw with these things, like they were smaller, but they were mean as shit. The groundsloth was walking around with shit like that and dire bears and cave bears and mountain you know, big bigg ass cave lions and saber tooth cats and shit, and he's just walking around like, motherfucker. I'm eating my salad. Dude, I swear to God, you attack me while I'm eating this leaf, I swear to God, I will come over there and I will slap the shit out of you. And you know, he did it so many times that even the like saber tooth tires were like, I don't I don't know if I'm gonna fuck with him. He's there's a rumpy motherfuckers is what he is, like something like buffalo or yeah, buffalo. I'm not gonna you know what, I'm walking away ground slow.

2:16 I hope you evolved to something like helpless. One day, some of a bitch n as some of them a bitch and he just walked off. Now now, dude, now, slaws are like the sweetest thing ever, Like people help him, like get across the road and yeah, oh I gotta und and it like like waves face, I don't know what the big deal is? Nice, I don't get it, Like what what does evolution like? Thought like, hey, let's make him low? Like it's kind of like the the equivalent of the was it the fading goat? It's like, what was the purpose? You can't you know somebody told me the reason for the fading goats? And is it kind of like possum like how they played dead. Uh, it's way worse. Okay, it's way worse.

3:23 Yeah, he got a herd of goats, right, I was the one that told you this. Okay, you tell it, Josh. Oh No, by all means, I'm in the middle of trying to get a thing here that's kind of kind of important for the story. So if I get this right, then, uh, you have a herd of goats, right, and say big bad say big bad wolf comes off the hill and he's like, I'm I'm gonna eat one of motherfucking goats. Man, that's delicious. Yeah, he's coming down the hill and he sees the goats. He takes off running, you know, and the whole herds like, oh fuck, they take off running, right, Yeah, I have a patsy, so there's just one. God. He's like, oh my god, guys, there's a good let's go there's a wolf. Let's get out of here.

4:06 You've heard the term scapegoat, right, that's it. Yeah, shut the fuck up. You know that's terrible shit. I don't know, Jenny, I don't know how much of it's true, but man, I tell you what that it sounds like it would be right. Why would these things evolve this, you know what I mean? That's like a frog like evolving, like you know what, I just don't need back legs anymore. I'm just gonna fucking swim around with my little inadequate front legs in the pond and try to like you know, and he can't swim, and then ship's trying to kill him, and he's like he can't get away because all these guys he's little, like you know what I mean. But I just want to see that in the real I want to know how they got to that point, how, how who was designing these things? Like what was the like the catalyst, like like what did they mix? What did they do to like, Okay, we had to put this with this and this with this, and we could get them to faint. I think, who thought they just had one? That's just uh, it's my wife speaking of of She should be the authority on this. She should have already had all the information

5:40 of why fainting goats or a thing. Well, she probably doesn't because she said, you're not allowed to have any I'm not allowed to have them because I will literally get a big beach ball and I will bowl with them. I'll roll it at them and they'll just I'll count how many fall over, and then I'll wait for him to reset. Came on. I think it's genius personally. I have a couple of maps that I want to show you guys in regards to this Lake Arrowhead tree mystery, That's what I'm gonna call it. So this is the bear population of the United States. Yeah, all right, and this is where Lake Arrahead, California is. Okay, Now pay attention to where that red mark is. Okay, Now look at that hold on, I'm trying to Okay, black bears, Yeah, black bear would be the most common. Yeah, but look at the color of where it says bear population. No bear population. Yeah, at the bottom, no bear population. It kind of the black bear kind of bleeds into it, but not I wouldn't say enough, like, yeah, you see that, you see that little tip. Yeah, but look here. I mean it is I want to say a probably just barely you. I really

7:15 did not mean to do this. It's a lot of fucking bears down. I can't I can't look around the damn picture you guys. This is why this is why I get third chair, because you guys don't want me here. He's having an existential crisis. Yeah. So maybe they dabble every now and again. Maybe sometimes they're like, you know, I'm just gonna this is my point. This is where I was going with this is it's not on the bear population map, right, so, but it is close enough or one you'd wondering because obviously, you know, bears aren't like just walking that. I wish you could see where I was pointing. Bears aren't walking around that little loop and they don't get to the edge, and they're like, who different, biome I can't go there. You know. It's it has a sign like like a a gun free zoone it says a bear free zoom And he's like, oh, they go around there? Can you pull up that last map again, because I think I've discovered something this one, the other one, if you would this one. Okay, So you see down going into Mexico, there's black bear, Like, there's marks there for black bear too. Yeah. Those were air dropped in. Yeah they had to be. They didn't they didn't walk down there. That's too far.

8:33 Yeah, yeah, that's such a typically. I'm just saying like, maybe maybe it passed through. Maybe, you know what I mean, Like when it was it was right down here, it was like, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna just kind of I want to go check out. I want to go check out Lake Cairhead. Right. Maybe she walked up on it and he was on vacation. I don't know. Let's sit here. I'm gonna do it this way. I work a point at stuff. What I want to know is how did these guys and how did these guys get there? They were air dropped, for sure, air dropped, okay, air bears, air bears. Yeah, And oh my god, do you guys see this here? Dude, please tell me that that island out there?

9:20 Really? Is that a bear right there? Somebody's just fucking with us. Dude's air out in the middle of the ocean and over that one over there to left. I could see the bear stay in there because that's that right there's like supposed to be like horrendous great White territory. Yeah, so he probably got to the island, like, dude, I'm never going back. Holy crap. Hold on a second, Hold on a second. All right, so we we we've established this guy right here right hold on, hold on, I gotta stop my screen shirt. I have to find something else real quick. Oh my god, what why he's doing that. I'm gonna bring this man back up. Okay, you see we're down here where we are good old Kentucky. Oh what is that color right there? Like that's in like eastern Kentucky. Like that means there's some black bears, and we're already establishing that they won't stay in that certain area at all like all times. There's a fence around that. So you're no, yeah, shut up. So I'm trying to say, is you kept giving me shit about my fucking encounter with a black bear. I swear I saw a black bear behind my house. Okay, okay, all right, guys, I've got a right dog man. Shut us were here, Yeah, Tyler tell me all about that dog. I guess you know what I'm gonna go. I'm

10:52 gonna get on vixed. Okay, all right, so we're going back to this, all right. We see this little blip right here, right, yeah, yeah, all right, so I know why there's a bear there, all right? Reverb reverb? You know what this is? What? That's the location of the Titanic wreckage. A bear took down the sub or he built himself a submarine and didn't make it. Oh for one, I mean, just the fact that this bear was smart enough to even like build a sub as impressive. But right, yeah, it's the only thing that makes any sense really, And Tyler definitely saw ad dog man. Yeah yeah, this uh, this matter. I just I love that I just keep getting kicked out of this fucking show every two seconds. I don't know, I mean, I think, I mean the possibility, you know, and a lot of people, like especially the guy that you know it's sending about the guy at the video that I never could find again. You know, he went up and measured everything. Motherfucker like had climbing shit and was going up in the tree and like, you know, doing all this shit.

12:22 I don't know, man, the video you showed the first time around. I don't know if I was just sitting in the right position or what, but it looked like a round black head and a gray muzzle, like a black bear. Yeah. You know, there was one frame, just one frame where I saw it, and I wasn't looking for a bear and I wasn't looking for a big foot. I was just trying to find anything that resembled something that could be alive, because yea, the most part, it just kind of looked like shadows in the trees. I didn't see because the thing wrapped around a branch holding on you know, it didn't it didn't look you know, yeah, I didn't see any kind of shadows of it holding onto anything. No, that was the uh that was sorry the video.

13:16 I was just talking about that. The guy that went up in the tree, the branch on the back, it was long enough where something could like lay across it. Yeah, which is what that's what he measured, because when they compared him, that's the big area that's empty in the second shot. Right. Well, my problem with this is is that what are they measuring against because the video I saw, maybe it's just a pixelation or what but I don't see an outline of anything in the tree. No, it's like it's like a mass, you know what I mean. And that was the that was the big thing when this all came came out, was that you have a huge void here that's being filled by something. And then it's then it's you know, he goes back to measure to see how big the area was that it that it basically took up, and he was like, and even the guy himself said, like, this could absolutely be a bearing that it's an extremely large one. If it is, you know, what time of year was it that I don't know, because that might make a difference. Yeah, Because here's what I'm thinking is, I'm sorry, Tyler, but if in the event that this right here at the bottom is a void of bears most of the time it was in March. It was in March. Yeah, okay, So if a bear had wandered in down there in an area where people aren't used to seeing bears, yeah right, okay, and you're thinking, uh, March and okay, so all right,

15:01 let's see that would be okay. So if it was a mama bear, yeah, in March, she would have three month old cubs okay, which they're not very big at that point in time, right, Yeah, they're about four to six pounds. Let's see what happens. Yearlings will follow the moms too, So a yearling bear cub is quite a bit larger. So what if okay, yeah, so we're looking at see yeah, okay, so what if there's a mama black bear in this tree and she's got two yearlings with her, which you're both thirty pound bears. Yeah, like multiples up in this tree together. And as dark as that was, it looks like one big mass. It looks like one big mass. Yeah, I mean it's the other thing too, is like, yeah, I can't help but think, you know, but think about this. It's like we're getting

16:34 a pixelated you know, camera, like a photo of it or a video of it, right, especially since considering it like most of your like really high definition video in these phones has only really gotten it's only really caught up to the megapixels of cameras over the last five years, right, you know what I mean. I'm wondering like she's looking at it with her naked eye, you know what I mean? Like that was what I was like, Okay, you know she's sitting there looking at it, or kids are looking at it. You know, it's clearly freaking them the fuck out. I mean, and she went she would she even I mean she went so far as to like actually like start a lawsuit with the park board over this.

17:26 That's that's the thing that gets me is like, you're standing there and you see it's a bear and you're filming it. How would you even predict that your camera's not gonna even pick it up that good? And if you were, you know, like Stacy was perpetuating a hoax, Like wouldn't she take an account like you know, they're just gonna see it's a fucking bear on my video and this isn't gonna work. I don't know. How do you get the you add like you add the like a a secondary tab under here as a camera gotta present present? Yeah, screen, Yeah, oh, I think that just automatically pops it up. You can choose what it shares there you go. Yeah, so black bears will absolutely getting trees together.

18:21 I hate this picture because they're adorable, right, they are adorable? Sorry, Tyler, Oh no, you're good. This is actually a video Lake Lake Earrawhead California. This was just put up a year ago. Yeah, and they were just chilling around up. Somebody needs to show them the fucking map. Yeah, no shit, they're they're not supposed to be there. I'll tell you what, if you live in Lake Arrowhood, you print that map out and just walk right up to that sum of bench and show him, like you think, does this say fucking Black Bear territory? Here?

19:03 Huh? What do you can you read? What do you don't know maps? I don't. I don't think it's going to go so well. I'm just going out on a limb here. Oh oh that's the kay, that's what you set your coffee down? Thank you? They hit the right one. I can't. I can't hear it. Yeah, okay, good, that was the right one. But yeah, man, I mean, you know, you take and maybe the vision. Can you pull the d the original video up back again? Yeah, Let's see what kind of day we're dealing with here. Let's see where the sun is. You know, if the if it's overcast and the sun's in her face, Well I'm sorry about that what I said. You know how like if it's overcast but the sun's there, it like makes it difficult to see. You're kind of squitting anyways, right, yeah, so let's let's have a look seet. Okay, h I swear to god, Mom, yeah it three. Yeah, there's that one. Uh shit, I have the other one here here it is.

20:21 Let me go back. Okay, yeah, this is the one that I when they zoomed in, I think you could kind of okay, right there, go back to one frame, right there, go back, go forward just a touch a little more, one more tick? All right, right there? Did you see it? Um? Go back? Just a fuzz See right right in there. You can see the muzzle. It does look like a muzzle of it, and I see round you on the top.

21:02 Yeah, I can see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, that's the one I was looking at it that it just you know what, though two is on the other side. It does look like the other branch to the right. It looks like it's moving independently. Yet that out focus on the one on the right, it looked like it was it does. It kind of does look like two different things up there. I'm thinking maybe it's like three bears in a treat and it's just so much black fur with crappy lighting and they're far enough away and they're not maybe used to see in bears. Maybe they're maybe was she always a resident of this part of town?

21:45 I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. There's so many variables, you know, Yeah, but I don't know. There's a there's at least two frames where I can see the round ears at the top and the gray muzzle. It's clear, you know. Um, and I hate to do do on it. Yeah, I really, I mean that's you know, we gotta we gotta look at everything, you know what I mean? I like this stuff with the footprints, I'm not into it. I'm just not into it. Um too easy to be faked. I actually have some footage where I made my own. Yeah, I never casted it or anything, but I literally made a footprint all the way down to dermal ridges. You know how I did the dermal ridges. I literally used my my fingers to pat them in and afterwards it's there's dermal ridges everywhere because it's it's the endent of my own hands. So it is super easy to make a track. I'm sorry, but it's it's super easy to do.

22:53 It's not hard. I could I could almost guarantee you that I could make a big foot casting that would probably be side by side with you know, and you know it says right there it's a thirteen inch print, which I mean drummer Dave has a thirteen inch foot, so that's you know. Yeah, I don't know, man, I I got an air on the side of it looks like a bear. Like a bear. Yeah, looks like a bear to me. I mean, I hate to be that guy. I know she had a lawsuit and there's some really sadness to the story here, you know, but right, yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, in all honesty, it's like whatever, whatever she saw, it was enough to put her into a whole different lifestyle afterwards. I mean, it changed everything for her. She went from being probably the last thing on her mind was this shit, and then you know the next thing, you know, dude, I mean, she was signing up with anybody that would take her out to to look. She was looking for confirmation.

24:04 Yeah, and unfortunately I don't I don't know that that she got it. I know what she believed, what she saw, you know, I get that, and the fact that the fact for me that she actually took it to the court of law because she thought people should be made aware if they're taking their kids out there, you know what I mean. Yeah, you know it was it put a lot of what he call it in her in her on her side, you know. But I know she she got taken out with with multiple and I say this very very uh whatever researchers, and you know, she went out multiple times. She told her story. You know, the story never changed throughout the years. You know, multiple people examined the site, examined you know, like I said, took the measurements, all that shit. It's a very interesting story, it was. It was an interesting story when I first saw it three years ago, and the media like blackout of it when it kind of vanished, I thought was kind of strange, you know what I mean. She definitely didn't like make any money off of this. It wasn't it wasn't a lucrative I mean I I equated to like, you know, starting a podcast, you know, like it didn't really pan out very well like monetarily. But she was like she was pretty like obsessed with it. Yeah, like whatever whatever was in that

25:34 tree bare Bigfoot, I don't know, it fucking got into her, like it was it was an obsession, you know. Unfortunately, they think that she had a heart attack in her own home and passed away, and it's that's kind of a unfortunately, it's a sad it's a sad ending to that story in my opinion, you know, I kind of I hope she got her answer. I hope she was at peace with with what she'd how far she'd come, you know since that. Yeah, yeah, I really do, because she was very passionate about it. But her her point of view was more of a awareness thing. That That was the other thing. It was like, she wasn't really going out there to get famous discovering Bigfoot like a lot of people do. Her thing was like, hey, if it's there, let's get awareness because it's an unknown and people come up here with their kids and stuff. You know. It was more of she wanted an awareness of it, like uh yeah, heads up, you know, like, hey, you know there's some off shit up here, so just keep you know, don't forget your bear mace. You know, sure it works on big Foot's too. I feel like, yeah, a lot of I know we've talked, like talked to and I know we've watched a lot of videos about people. A lot of them don't want to get fame. They just want to know. They they want to hold their government accountable because they feel that the government knows about these things and they choose not to say anything.

27:11 And I don't know like that and I don't want to like get too morbid about this, but it is what did she have health problems? Did she? That's I want to I want to check every box in this because just like how we did with the that family that passed away in California, It's like it was weird, but then we we kind of rolled everything out and it ended up being what it was said to be almost, so like that's what I like. I don't want to believe somebody wanted to do her harm when she was just trying to create awareness. I don't know what would be the purpose of doing that to this, to this woman. Yeah, I don't know. I mean that was that was the thing that made it unique to me was that it was it was more about awareness than anything and accountability. You know, she was convinced that she saw something, and her kids were convinced they saw it too, you know what I mean. It was like they all were very, very shocked by what they saw, you know. Like That's the thing that gets me is like if you if I went out to California, especially into those woods, and you said like, hey man, you know there's fucking bears up here, so I just, you know, keep your eye out. If I saw one up in a tree, I'm sure it would be like oh shit, But I don't think i'd be traumatized by it. Yeah, I really don't think i'd be like,

28:44 oh my god. I feel like you'd be more nervous. It would be like a bear, and I don't think you would pull out your camera for that unless you just wanted to have a that but they were I pulled my camera out, like, but more of along the lines there will be like, oh my god, it's a bear, like, but you wouldn't be more along like what the hell is that? What is that? What the hell is that? Yeah, if it was crystal clear a bear, I would take a picture of it and tell you, guys, I saw bigfoot, Like there was no doubt it was a bear, Like you could see it blatantly obvious. I would send it to you guys, be like, dudes, I saw a bigfoot. Look at this thing. He stressed up as a bear. But the one thing I hate most about this whole like this whole story right now, Yeah, because didn't this just come out probably like a couple of days or well, I hate most about this.

29:41 Okay. You said that we you found this story when we first started, Yes, the show this this came out like a few years back. Yeah, a few years back. So we talked about it on season one of this podcast. Yeah, and then after that you immediately, probably like months afterwards, you could not find it at all. Right, Okay, her video and the people that like try to collaborate her story, yea, what pisces me off the most is that she died and now they want to put her on our story back out there. It's like this Now, now you're just like you're digging into somebody's ship just because they passed away, and you know that somebody's going to click on it because you took all this shit down, it went gone, and now you put it back up because you know you could get some type of ratings or some shit. Oh yeah, that's our culture, though, that's our We got the click culture. Yeah, yeah, well we've talked about that before. We actually had to like we done our test because of it. Yeah, yeah, we did a test.

30:53 Yeah you guys, you guys out there. I'm sure you remember. We said, uh, it was like two part episode and then the second part I said something like, let's name this like as our show ending. We appreciate all the concern, but you know it was kind of a test. You know. It's like, that's that's our culture. Our culture is to get more views, to get more clicks, to get more eyes on it. You know, we should name this episode like undeniable proof of Bigfoot, you know what I mean. I mean, like it's not but that's that's everywhere. I think we should name it Cute Bears in a tree, Cute bears in a tree, Undeniable proof of cute bears in a tree.

31:34 Yep. I hate how cute they are because they will eat your Like they will straight up eat your ass. And I don't even mean that like you know, like a slang, like they will actually eat your ass. Ye. And I'm sure it's like a lot of there's a lot of meat right there in the ass and they just start there that delicious hate to have a chunk bitting out of my ass. It suck oh dude, you guys remember that fucking remember the grizzly guy. Remember him the fucking yeah, I can't remember his name, go up, like, let's go fucking hang out with grizzly bears. He died. Could you believe that? I was shocked he was killed by a grizzly bear. I know. That's so weirdly. It's like you would have thought that the Grizzlies would have been like, oh, that's just this dude. He's taking pictures of us. Yeah, he's all right, one of us. We don't eat him. He's like he's not a bear, but he's you know, he's all right, we don't eat him. And then probably what happened was one of those air dropped bears got dropped in and he didn't know, like they didn't tell him, and he just like walked it. Oh dude, there's this fucking guy sleeping here.

32:49 I'm just fucking eat this. It's like easy calories high. Just started with his ass and just worked his way up and uh literally there you go. And the next day I bet the other bears was like, bro, we weren't eating him. He's like he liked the little fox and everything dude, we weren't going to eat him, so we should the episode episode air dropped Bears in the US. Air dropped Bears in the US. That's a good name. What I like is that the listener actually gets to hear the name getting come up with. Yeah, but they don't hear it until the following episode. That's true, damn it. So we don't let's do the let's do uh, Thursday should be dropped bears? Mondays be air dropped big foots we don't think you would talk about all right? Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, like bears, bears are no fucking joke, dude, though they're fucking they're just big, big calorie destroying machines. That's all they do.

33:59 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's wild man. A lot of this stuff is, and this this big foot stuff. You know, the more humidity there is, the less big Foot stuff you hear about. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of humidity out there. So big Foot's on vacation, he's he's taking a break. Well, I mean, can you imagine what humidity doest all that hair? Oh god, yeah, he's out there probably like just sweating his ass off, dude. So aggravated. I'm now getting online to look for a big foot with a perma. Yeah, I don't know's it is. It's sad though, though, the whole thing. You know, I hate, I hate. I hated reading that.

34:53 When I read it, I'm like, God, damn it, dude, I was that was one of my favorites. You know. I liked her because she wasn't a researcher, you know, no offense fucking researchers. But you gotta admit, some of you guys are off your fucking gourd. I mean some of the ship that I hear weekly. And we know when when I wasn't this cynical when we started. I had an open mind when we started. When we started this shit, I was like, tell me everything. I want to take in the information and let's just start, you know, chiseling away until we get to the meat and taters. You fucking never get to the meat and taters ever. You know, I'm sure there's gonna be a few people out there they go there, that's not right.

35:39 You shouldn't say that, but I mean, fuck, somebody's got to Jesus. I mean, at some point you gotta be like, are we are we just having fun, you know, are we just having fun out here or are we actually interested? Because I mean, the idea and all throughout the United States there's this this fucking massive, you know, delusional, fucking todd standing theory that there's just like eighty thousand of these fuckers walking around and somehow just nobody sees them is ludicrous to say the least. Like when you say that out of your mouth, you have to be hearing yourself, you know. But then you know, on the other hand of the spectrum, there's guys like like Steve Issdel that straight up as like, yeah, I see one of the fuckers. He fucking hates him. It was, he was so reluctant to even say a word about it. You know, he didn't even need to. Like the dude's good, he didn't need to get into that he's does. I mean, you go watch his fucking videos.

36:57 Dude. He's not the kind of dude that wants to be mister popular either. I mean, most of the time he just wants to be left to fuck alone. So it's like, you got different ends of the spectrum. If there's an seven eight foot tall fucking relative of man walking around up there. I feel like it's the far Pacific Northwest. I think that's pretty much it, unless they're air dropping those fuckers too. No, I don't know. Sorry for the rant, but shit's this shit's absolutely ludicrous, dude, some of this shit you hear. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to offend beliefs out there, but you can't tell me it's a it's a fucking animal, and then tell me it's a fucking you know entity, and then tell me it's a fucking caveman, and then tell me it's a gigantropathagus. Well, I'm gonna tell you right now. This guy is in complete disbelief.

37:54 He can't believe it. Shit, I just said, he cannot believe the shit you just said. He's appalled, absolutely upon. You know what. He looks like. He looks like you just saw a bunch of bears up in a tree, and he's so shocked, and he's trying to dig for his phone. It looks like he's been eating a powdered donut too. Just it's cocaine. Cocaine. I was thinking that the sasquatches out there in the middle of the woods. He peels open his box of powdered donuts. He's like, Man, I'm waiting all the fucking day for this ship. Man, I'm so excited I found these. I reached right in their window and snatched him. You know, everybody thinks I'm all trying to kill people.

38:44 All I want some donuts. You know, he sits there and he looks up and there's a fucking bear. What do you think the bear wants? Wants his fucking donuts? Donuts? Bullshit? Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, i'd tell you, yeah. I mean, I'm definitely I'm definitely not gonna be making us any more friends in the in the Bigfoot arena. But I mean, fuck you got bring bring the fucking thunder guys. Like everybody talks a bunch of shit about all this fucking evidence they got, you know what I mean, Our phone lines have been pretty dead for big footers, pretty dead, dog man guys. They bowed out a while ago.

39:28 You know, we got tired of looking at their bushes. I don't know, man, it's yeah, every time I hear somebody just self proclaiming themselves a Bigfoot researcher, I I just think of myself like you know, gorillas in the midst was a legitimate research film. Yeah, it showed the gorillas. Yeah. Yeah. We went through a a little period there for about one hundred years where gorillas were a myth. Shit. You know what you did is they went up and took pictures of them and studied them and filmed them. You know. Yeah, we got them in zoos now and everything.

40:15 That's like, hey, that was a book on that one. Those are So if you call yourself a bigfoot hunter, I get down with that, all right, But that that makes sense you're hunting bigfoot, all right, Yeah, it doesn't imply that you're actually catching them, just means you're out looking for him. I can. I can live with a hunter, bigfoot hunter, but bigfoot researcher. First off, the you know people who do research. This is decades of you know, documented studies. This is you know, reading other people's works, documenting everything that you've seen versus what they've seen. You know what I mean, like publishing your work. There's a lot that goes into actual research. It's not just standing in the woods looking for bigfoot. Yeah, you know, making woody sounds and knocking on trees. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the whole premise the premise itself has always been aggravating to me because it's like you're you know, you're telling me that this this thing is designed it's like us, but more designed for feral living, wild living. It's yeah, obviously going to be a meat eater because there's no nothing else that's going to sustain that kind of calori account that you need. We I thought we went over this later. Yeah, a walnut calculation. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and then you go out You're gonna go out in the middle of the day or okay, that

41:47 actually makes sense to me, is to go look for this thing during the day, but you got in the middle of the night when it and its complete advantage, you know what I mean, Like you can you could be out there in a T shirt dance and be real still in a group of people with a flashlight of walk right past you. Yeah. I'm just saying, it's like this thing is like a walking Gillie dude. Yeah, what the fuck are you? You know what like are you thinking? You're yeah, and we're gonna fucking bang on some trees and it's that's We're gonna scare him out. Yeah. See, like the individual people, that's why I'm more for that is that the individual people that say they've seen something, Okay, yeah, I'm sure you saw something. I'd love to know what it is, you know. Yeah, I'm more apt to believe them than all of these people who quote call themselves researchers that have yet to produce anything.

42:52 Nothing nothing not literally nothing, yeah, absolutely nothing. You know. I mean, I've seen some interesting shit own to me in confidence. You know, I've seen some of that stuff, but you know, from the point person's point of view, they're like all that, you know, this is what I found the next day after it all happened, you know, and I'm like, still, this could be some asshole fucking with you. Yeah, you know what I mean, I had the same shit going on here, right, Like most evidence could be just explained away. Yeah, you know, like I've always had to theory that, you know, all these hotspots that maybe maybe this research group is hearing this research group, yeah, and they're just knocking wood back and forth to each other and whooping back and forth to each other, you know what i mean, Like absolutely, Yeah.

43:44 My thing was, you know, a while back, there was a set of feathers like laid on a stump crossed left for me, and I'm like, oh shit, Bigfoot's leaving me presence. And then, you know, obviously I'm like, it's probably somebody I know, come with me, you know, and I'm cool, I don't care, what's whatever, And he went back. Even Tyler even walked back there with me one day. We went back and looked at it, you know, and we're like, yeah, you know, it's probably somebody fucking with this. And I have no idea if it's still going on, because I was like, what the fuck was the point in the first place. There's if there's a big foot out in my woods right now, he's just gathering up turkey feathers and just leaving him for me, Like, what the fuck is that? I don't I don't want that, you know, Like I gave him a potato.

44:37 I gave him a sweet potato, a big one, you know, and he never ate it. He didn't need it. Yeah, ungrateful. I'm pretty sure though that there was a couple of squirrels that got ahold of it. Yeah, it was like Christmas morning for them. You look at the size of the fucking nut. Dude, Oh my god, started eating it, and it's like Oh my god, d's so much better and then they got all wired from all the sugars in it. Yeah, it's probably why I have like a fucking squirrel infestation going on, to have squirrels everywhere now, you know, like all hyped up on that sweet potato and I kicked up system or something. I kind of uh, but with all you guys like you guys kind of go on your little rand together. But no matter what, we're not saying that you didn't see anything. But for us, being the person that you're telling the story to, it's hard to believe because of how many fakes are out there. Oh yeah, we're not saying that you didn't have an experience, and don't let that scare you from wanting to come on the show or send your story in ys like, we are just trying to find the answers, just like anybody else. But we're not gonna shovel bullshit down your throat. We do not. We set out to not do that. We want to bring the funny to you because that's how we

46:09 are. And then on top of that, we want to try to give the best information that we can. It might not be as accurate as a lot of like some people who like go into great details ship we use fucking canoes to measurements. But that's what I'm saying is is that we are just trying to believe what you are seeing. Yeah, And that's what I said was that, you know, I'm more apt to believe an individual that's just a person, not somebody trying to make a name for themselves in this community. Yeah, you know that. I believe that when people tell me they saw something in the woods or something in the water, or something in the sky. Yeah, I'm apt to believe that they saw something right right, you know so, but I don't know what it is they saw. But I've always got to explore the normal explanations thing for things before I dip into the abnormal explanation for things. Sure, you know it's it's the old adage.

47:10 If you hear hoofs, do you think horses are zebras? Yeah? Maybe horses, because I don't think we have zebras around here. I mean, let's get a zebra map. I'm gonna die if there's like one little die in Kentucky and it's right by us, like some of a damn it to throw that whole thing out now. But I feel like it's kind of like what they say with like court and stuff. It's not like I heard this like kind of a saying in a movie. But I feel like it lends cadence. Is that it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Yeah, just because you know that you saw something, but can you prove it? Yeah, because no one else is gonna like there's like the internet is shitty and if you can't prove it, they're going to shit on you no matter what. Yeah. So that that's the that's the crabby thing. And that's what I am calling every said researcher, hunter of bigfoot, anything out there. Stop holding back if you have evidence, put it out there, let peer review, because that's the only way that we are finally going to get answers. It's like, because it's such bullshit. If you really want somebody to know and this is your passion, just like the lady that we were talking about, she we even went to the lengths of

48:44 actually putting a lawsuit on Was it the city or the state? Uh, that's the park, the part of the park itself, the park, what do you call it? Like Arrowhood Wide Park Service, or whatever. Yeah, so like if like she actually believed in what she saw and she's trying to make like she's trying to like make you believe to understand what she saw what terrified her children. So that's what I'm saying is, don't think of like the fame that you get out of this, think about the things that you can actually, the people you could protect, the people that like that, like all those things. That's what I'm saying. I wish if you are that passionate about this topic, start putting your evidence out and let's see if what you're you've collected, I mean true, look at look at like the law of averages, right, you know for a fact, someone has something, you know what I mean? Because okay, you know, like there's so many fucking stories, there's so much history to this. Somebody has something. Even if we take it back to old school, like nineteen eighties, thinking there's only one big foot, there's only one walking around out there,

50:16 you know, and he's by himself, man, and he's just fucking taking deer down, man. And he's fucking slapping bears out of trees, dude, and he's fucking headlocking him like to get out of my fucking woods. I told you telling you you know, eighties bully, I love it. Yeah, And it like fucking throws the bears out of the woods. And that's why you see the map like changing, because it's him in there kicking, right. I was. I was more of feeling than it was like a pro wrestler. Woods. Put you in here for three minutes where you're going, Yeah, put you for three minutes. I don't understand why he sounds like that's how he disappeared. He became the macho man. He just shaved all of his hair, paved everything except for his chest. Catch yeah, beard. He went out there and he's like conspiracy, you know, conspiracy. But I thought macho Man was pretty small. I thought he was a short dude. I mean, you know, we don't want to We're not trying to attack him on his height. I'm not trying to attack him. But I'm just saying that I don't want to be the show that publicly calls out the fucking macho man. Yeah, no shit. You know who come Back from the Dead and woolfp our asses. Yeah, you know what I mean? That was bad motherfucker right there. I'm just saying I'm

51:47 just saying, like, we go back to the old school thinking there's just one big foot out there, and he's he's just going around, like I said, slapping bears out of hiding spots and ship and he's like whatever, you know what I mean. He comes up and he puts is your fucking house over and he's like he's breaking trees and shit, dude, and he's like, you know what I'm gonna do with these fucking trees. I'm gonna build a fucking thing. And they're gonna have to sit there and figure that out and they're dumb. I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna kick some more bears asses. Somebody has a picture of him kiss oh I dude, I'd pay money. I'd hand over my paycheck for that. He's like in the tree and he does. You'd be like, dude, I got a VHS tape here of an actual bigfoot fighting a real bear. All I want your fucking your paycheck. I'll be like, dude, fucking sign this thing right over to you. Give me that that's mine, a prized possession.

52:44 Then I'll never release it. I'll put it in a safe and I'll never let it out because I don't I don't want that kind of fame. I don't need that attention in my life. That's kind of like a you're saying that is kind of like what the I don't know if I said I hinted at it on last week's episodes. Uh, you guys know Logan Paul right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently he has like he has an acquaintance with somebody that knew another guy, an old, old gentleman. This is a this is a pretty big big thing. Yeah. Day, He's like, dude, he had cash, hundred grand in cash that he was driving in the middle of the desert somewhere. He's like like he like, because I saw a video of the guy talking about it. He's like calling him the dude. He's like, are you sure he's out here? I'm in the middle of nowhere and I do not feel comfortable holding this much money on me. And apparently he gets to this guy's house and he has he has a VHS tape of real sightings of UFOs, like one hundred percent like the best. I guess it's considered the best evidence of alien Yeah. Contact.

54:06 Okay, so he went with um James Fox Uh, the documentary maker for I can't remember the name of the god damn fell him. To be honest, I've watched so many of these things now. Uh. It was he went with him out to this man he had this old footage or whatever, and the guy's like, I'm not uploading this ship to the internet. I'm not doing this. If you want to see it, you got to like come here and see it. Apparently Logan Paul had a like one of them little pin cameras and he like sat there and watched it with him, and he offered money for it, but the guy wouldn't take the money, and he filmed it. He like filmed watching it. But yeah, the story's actually taken a turn because apparently Logan Paul showed it to Joe Rogan and apparently I don't know something like from what I understand, Joe Rogan is like, like, bro, what the fuck? Like what you know? What I mean? Like, what is this? I don't know? Man, I mean I feel like if anything's gonna come out of this, it's you know, I don't know. The only the only thing I hate a lot about this whole thing. I hate to like, I don't want to shit on the guy. Yeah whatever, he's a social media shows for media influencer, but he has so many shady deals days Yea fell through it. I

55:38 don't know if it's because of his business, uh like like his business, like his own business, like how how he deals with it, and he's just like if something fucks up, he just throws it on the rug or he's literally doing this maliciously. I don't know. I don't know the guy. I'm not gonna shit on the guy. I just personally don't like him. I don't like his content. But that's what I'm saying, is like I don't know if I want to believe whatever he puts out. It's just like anybody like, uh, if fucking Trump came out and he had evidence of aliens, like literally, he's like, dude, I found this in the vault under like like ten miles under the White House, Like there's a vault of just random shits, and I took a video tape of aliens.

56:32 If he popped that in and showed it all the broadcast, no one would believe him because of how much people hate him. It's just that it's like you're guilty by just being like anything you say, is just shit. Yeah, I don't know. There's there's a lot of different there's a lot of different opinions about that footage though. From what I'm seeing here, some people are saying, like, you know, I guess Slogan Poul he admitted it. You know, he admitted straight up, like, yeah, I filmed it with a button camera. He's like, he offered him one hundred thousand dollars for the for the film, for the actual thing. The guy refused it. He's and he went on the air saying that if he fucking should have took the money, because I got the footage anyway. Yeah, I think it's a VHS tape and then a pen camera. I've never like it's the high quality pen cameras out there. I don't probably the uh the actual I thought that he showed it to to fucking Joe Rogan. James Fox was on Joe Rogan and confirmed that yes, Logan Paul did steal the footage.

57:44 He said, yeah, that's yeah, that's the guy that he was with him something like that. He said that, uh, he did steal the footage. And there's there's mixed feelings about the footage. Um, yeah, like Logan. Paul, defending himself, says, I offered him one hundred thousand dollars for this tape after I saw it. Let me tell you this, he should have taken my f and money because I hate that I read it effing because it's it's censored out in the article because I got the footage anyway, and I'll tell you why I did it, because it's a little twisted of me to put on the small button camera and film UFO footage that isn't mine. Here's the thing, though, it's not his either. It's not the people who shot it gave it to him and expected him that he would keep it hidden to himself. It doesn't belong to him. It's not his footage. He's keeping what I thought at the time is important UFO Alien extra drestrial proof in his possession and not showing it. And he says, like, why I think this is doing a disservice to the world. That's not going to do it for me. You're being selfish. So that's how he justifies stealing the footage. But he hasn't released yet. But he hasn't released yet because we're in the click culture, ashe used to be King contents

59:15 King Now yeah, right, but you gotta think too. It's like, so, what happens if somebody comes up to him, Now it's like, hey, I'll give you a million dollars for that footage. It's like it's like would he buy it? Like would like? He's like, but that's what I'm saying. Like, what I'm saying is is like, well, he considered that his footage just because he filmed it personally through his pincam. Uh it's like pincam, but it's technically not his footage either, right, Like he's filming of a film. Yeah. The thing is is what happens in the film? Uh? What happens in the film is apparently I haven't seen it, but it's a couple of guys out near a hot spot for sightings of UFOs. Right, they're in their vehicle. They're actually trying I guess they're trying to keep up with one. They're trying to like, you know, keep it where they can film it. They're trying to get proof.

1:00:22 Well, the fucking thing basically goes around on them and fucking goes right over them, and they're leaning out filming it from below. All Right, This is insanely close. The lights kick on on the thing, you know what I mean, it starts getting extremely bright. They get in the vehicle and they're like hiding in the vehicle, like freaking out because this thing moves fast as hell. Right. The problem with the footage is that in nineteen ninety five, you wouldn't have been able to fake this. The CGI was you know what, thirty years away, twenty years away something like that, like not not CGI, Like obviously they had shitty CGI back then, but this level wouldn't have been available until like now. So that's where the problem is. That's why people are like, dude, this is probably gonna, you know, be one of the most compelling UFO videos ever because yes it's a VHS tape, but it's a VHS tape showing you know, it's everything down to the the you know, the the time, like the year that this happened, the vehicle they're in, you know, even the like like road signs they go past, or old signs you know they hadn't been replaced or renewed yet. Uh, the camera they're using, the tape deck in the car. I mean, everything down to the wire, you know what

1:01:54 I mean. It's like everything if you were gonna build this would cost you a fortune to like fake this because you had to go back and get all this period correct stuff and hopefully it's right, you know, because even even the location where they're at, there's the signs have these little you know, area code markers on them. Lot of you guys ever seen that sometimes on ours? A lot of ours are on the back of the sign Now I don't have you seen that, like a little markers they put on them, but these are back then we're down at the bottom, you know, it's like a little bitty whatever at the bottom of the signs. And even those are correct for the time period. It's like there's so many like details that would have been like if a guy made this, dude, he's an absolute fucking psychopath, you know, like you had psychopath to get this amount of detail. You know. So basically it would be a multimillion dollar like movie technically budget a million dollars, which could compel the guy to not want to sell it for one hundred thousand, Like you fucking kidney, This thing cost me like two million dollars to make. Yeah, I'm not nothing nothing, It's real, real, real, for a fucking one hundred K or do your nuts. Yeah, I don't know, it's it's pretty wild. I can't. I hope Logan Paul like does the right thing and isn't a douche and releases it. So let's let's think about something really quick. Yeah,

1:03:30 all right, he watched it on a TV, correct, Yeah, through a VCR. Yeah, which means you had to have a TV that had the hookups for a VCR. Okay, it's kind of like one of those bubble TVs or glass probably, I mean, I don't, I don't know. Do the newer ones even have the co action RCA? Yeah? Yes, yes, like some in the beginning, like flat screens had that kind of style still, right, But regardless, you know, they watched it on a TV, presumably sitting in a living room or something, right, Yeah, with a pin camera in his pocket, right, or a button camera, yeah, button camera? All right? So how good can this quality possibly be? That's yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say, Like, what's the quality? Like it's like how you always say, Denny, it's like making a copy of like a cassette tape. Yeah, a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. Yeah, I'm like, shit, I'm not even talking about like how bad is the video going to be? Like, I'm talking about the fact that this is on a guy's shirt. Put your phone in your pocket and press record. Oh yeah, and try to aim it at something and not be conspicuous, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you know, I mean,

1:05:00 let mean, look at the bootleg that Danny put on at the beginning of the show. Oh full circle, there's a light well started that. I just would like to add that I fucking nailed that little solo dude dental right there. I'm just saying, yeah, and I love and you wasn't being conspicuous. You were being blatly obvious as shaky as fuck. Yeah, So how did you do? Didn't doesn't your your your forward facing camera does is the only one it works, right my yeah, my my selfie cam works.

1:05:49 My forward faces But you were standing there holding a cell phone, you know, like so yeah, right, yeah, I see us, right yeah, Josh seption. Yeah, this is far too entertaining now, but you're standing there holding this, yeah, and you've got a ballpark idea of what you're aiming at because you have something to aim with right put it on a button. Do you know this video that he keeps talking about the probably the reason why he ain't released anything is because it looks like it's just it's all over the fucking room, because you know, you're not sitting there watching the most compelling video in the world, perfectly still like this, sitting like you know, like a statue. No, you're like you're leaning in you know what I mean, Like, it just doesn't It doesn't make any freaking sense to me. The funny thing is it probably ended up like it was like facing up at his face, he's on accident, like he moved his shirt and they got back on. Dude, that'd be so hilarious. So I pulled up a four K button cam here I wanted to see, like, you know, I'm gonna try to skip skip around a little bit.

1:07:18 Let's see what this thing looks like. So that's that's a video preview. That's fucking terrible. That's like horrendous. And you know that's not in his pocket. He's holding it in his hand and aiming it. Yeah, that's supposed to go in your button of your shirt. Yeah, yeah, here right here he shows it. Yeah, Oh, that's not conspicuous at all. Again, No, you see what it's aiming at. That thing is not aiming straight ahead. That thing is aiming often to the left. And look how it is posture. He's definitely try it's like walking all like stiff.

1:08:12 There's gotta be a better one than this, Like Jesus right, I mean that's a promotional videos. They're obviously going to try to make it looks as good as possible. But yeah, I don't know. I just don't see the possibility of putting a camera in your pocket and recording a good enough quality of video of a TV set just walk around with your key. I think this one's evil, man, Like, that's that's just wrong that. Yeah, like you just plug that into the wall somewhere and just sitting there filming people. And yeah, yeah the clothes that that little paper clip comes extra too. You gotta buy that doesn't come with it because some of these it's like, all it's a button camera, dude, it's massive. It's like what do you where are you? You know this one. I used to have a pair of these, I believe it or not. The glasses, but those are definitely not a uh like inconspicuous No, they're not.

1:09:20 Yeah, they're so fucking bulky, Yeah they are. There's the pair I had were barely like three what three sixty you know what I mean? Pe and uh, they were just yeah, like I never took them skateboarding with all my random friends like that. Yeah. I don't know if you guys can see it, but that's that's not a camera. I love a love of the monetization. We get yelled at for like talking shit, and it's just you're on here just showing everything. Like see how fucking thick that is? Dude, that's like I don't maybe at first glance you might not notice that run off, but still it's like, look at the I don't know, I mean he is, he's sitting on the footage. Yeah, click, culture click. He's gonna spend the next few months talking about this and teasing about it, and you know it, and then it's gonna be I don't I don't know if the saying spreads all over the US or not, but I know I've heard a lot of it here in Kentucky and it's shit or good off the pot. Yeah, yeah, let's due. I think we should do just that too. I think we should uh, we should get off the pot here. Let's uh yeah, let's stop shipping on these people's day. Give me one second though, let me see something, little

1:11:01 little public announcement. UM not trying to be a dick. Tell those of you out there that would like to talk to us. But if you say you want to talk to us and you don't get back to me when it's time to talk to us, I kind of have to bump you to the you know, see you next, see you next time. You know what I mean, Like, it's it's not gonna happen. We have we have specific times that we record because, like you, we have all kinds of things going on in our lives. And if you don't honor, you know, and agreed upon appointment, you know, like, hey, we're gonna get together, we're gonna talk, We're gonna listen to what you had to say. We will listen to what you had to say, but you have to show up for it. You don't get back to me, well it's hard to take a serious after that. Yeah, And I don't know unless you got a real good reason. And I'll be honest with you. I've I've read I've read this one in particular many times. Oh sorry, bro, I just saw this. I'm my bad. Yeah, we talked about it right down on your calendar. Hey, I'm talking to the contents guys, you know, Sunday morning. So that's a good little public public service announcement to you. You know, you don't show up, probably never be on. Yep. We have a time frame. We got stuff we gotta

1:12:33 do, and it's a lot to even just do this in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, it's like like right now, I got a whole farm of animals to go feed and it's just getting warmer by the minute. Ye. And I've got to take the trailer back that we borrowed to pull over gear and I've got to have it back by a certain time, and my grad us will not stop growing. I know, bullshit. Okay, I am ready. Since we're kind of first and form us, we got another weeker you'll probably get Yeah, we get it. You got these episodes and then next week's episodes, and then we're going to be here. The Kentucky X Files are going to be at the Smoky Mountain big Foot Conference. Uh.

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