S346 - UNDENIABLE PROOF!

0:00 Kentucky X Files Season three with your hosts Dennis Mays, Tyler Stewarts, and Josh Gibbs. Don't forget to subscribe to us on your YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also visit us at www dot k y x files dot com. And now on to our show. That's funny. You can never tell you guys out here what was funny? Though? It's bad so bad. Get stretches in, yeah, uckle warm up, Papa Powder. Dennis. By the way, welcome back, guys to your Entucky X Files. My voice is a little shot from yesterday. What yesterday? What do you speak of? We were masterpiece theater yesterday? We were Oh my god, you were. That's why it's so freaking empty behind me right now. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna grab all those pictures and show people I shouldn't. I should have, I should have did it already.

1:30 People will probably like, Josh, are you moving? Yeah, that's what it looks like that did you room behind me? Yeah? All right, Oh my god, there's so many. I'll grab this one just for context. We can we can show them what's what's up? So we took took the the Big Bad Rector, and we went to Monsterpiece Theater. It's like a it's like a recording studio where they set up like a full on camera crew like set up, you know, cameras everywhere. Everything is like under the microscope, micro miked up, you know, and then you can see you're your boys there. Yeah, getting ready. I took that picture.

2:24 That's why I'm not in it. All right, let me let me grab another one here. Oh, you're fine, you know what to show my bug? I can see me on the screen. I'm shaw. But there's uh, there's there's Tie right there at the front, Denny on the the right, and then uh there's drummer Dave sitting down the chair. It's just past Tyler. And then uh, that's wild man Derek there in the middle. That was our that was a recording engineer. And then to the right there next to Denny, that is Jason and he was a Navy specialist. And was Ryan I believe his name is the one behind Jason. Yeah, av specialist as well, I believe. So, yeah, I guess I got some more pictures coming here we go. Oh, must grabbed that picture off of that off of that group that wouldn't. It went so good.

3:23 Me. Wait and we're in the correct size. Oh my god, I'm not in that one. Even Dave's in that one. Yeah, Dave wasn't. Oh my god. Yeah he's blurry. I don't know if that's really Dave. It's Gratis. That could be anybody. Yeah, there's another one here, the banner drum kid. You see our little Wendigo guy on the kick drum. Yep, pretty awesome. There's a I think that was the first, like the first group shot we took with those guys. Yeah.

4:11 Yeah, there's another one here, and that's Uh to the far right there standing up. That's Chris That that was our liar. No, he was the he was av. The other guy, Jason was our live sound engineer, that's right. Yeah. I loved his pose and then he was the only one doing it. Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to do the h I think it's in the polaroid. I was trying to do the like I had Tyler like put his hand on my shoulder. Yeah yeah, and then I was like this, yeah yeah. I thought it would be kind of a throwback to the eighties a little bit. Yeah. Man, it was fun though. Yeah, those good times. I can't wait to show you guys what came of it, because we got to see like a rough it was like a rough draft of it, and your boys we uh, I mean not trying to toot our own horns, but dude, you know, like it was. It was pretty bad ass. It was.

5:15 We looked good and we sounded good. Yeah. I think we brought our a game. We did. I feel like I'm just saying it's uh, it's been a couple of couple of years of not loading, like loading and unloading and loading and unloading your ships. Yeah, And I just want to say I feel like that was the reason why I didn't want to play anymore more in the first fucking place. Okay, that sucked ass. If you look here up on that stage in the back is all of our stuff, and h to the left of Tyler and Dave there is most of the packaging that all of our stuff came in. So everything had to be unloaded from a trailer, brought in, loaded up onto the stage, put back together again. And it was like a solid couple of hours of just them putting microphones in places and setting up cameras and lights, cameras and dude, it was. It was so cool though. That was awesome. I actually I have a bootleg that I made of the video. Do you really I have a bootleg? You ripped the bootle? How'd you do that? Dude?

6:27 Was you recording the TV? It was? I was, I was. It kind of sucks because like you can't really like it doesn't do any justice. It like it doesn't do any justice, and it doesn't sound great. It was more of the like satisfaction of like getting a bootleg of this right now. I don't. I have no idea how to get it off my phone and onto here, to be honest, So it's not I mean, you can't really hear it take it anyway. It's kind of one of them things. Well, not like that. I mean, everybody he was like a toddler in a movie theater. They were all just gammering away talking the entire time we were watching it. Yeah, I'm so awesome. Let's see if I can, like, I bet I can fucking figure this out.

7:14 I'm gonna send it to Rector first, but I mean we might be able to pull this off. Holy shit, doing some doing some top level hacking right now. Let's see here. Oh, my god. Kay, oh my god, it's it's it worked. Holy shit, ladies and gentlemen. This is a copy of a copy and I made it blatantly obvious too. This is so funny. Wall do you guys see this. I had no shame either. I was sitting right next to the guy while I was doing it. There's a light started that one light. Yeah, nice, no shame. I was like, this is too cool. I'm like, I don't know how long it's gonna take him to get it all done and whatever, and I just know that I was excited and I didn't want to wait.

8:30 Yeah, I told you guys. I don't know if you guys had any kind of mishabs on stage, but I had a couple. Uh. I accidentally smacked the mic. You can hear me in the background like, oh shit. I'd like I smacked it with the head of my base. It's like, oh shit. There was one part man when we were we were playing uh far lands and uh. I remember Dave telling me a while back, He's like, hey, you know, I don't end it until you give me the vocal cue. I'm like, yeah, oopsie, So I just didn't just didn't do it. I turned around and looked at Dave like yeah, it just happening. They're like okay, yeah yeah, like yeah, yeah that was cool. It sounded great because I just drug out just long enough, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I like, uh, I like the compliment we got from the guys that just tickled me to death. There was there was two and one started a hug fest. Oh the yeah, yeah dangerous. Yeah yeah, what was it? What was it? I was sitting on the floor watching the video. What was it exactly that he said? I heard some of it. I heard enough to know that it was a monstrous compliment. Okay, so one uh one that the one of the compliments we got that I loved was you guys are like an Appalachian Gojira. Yeah. That was my favorite. I'm like, oh

10:01 yeah, you know, like, h mister bod, I do declare it. And then after we were done, Derek he was ours like, yeah, Derek was our recording engine area. Yeah. So he comes up to me and he goes, dude, nice fucking vocals. I'm like, hey, thank you, Yeah, I appreciate that. He's like, yeah, dude, you're like it's like a mastodon Gojira. Yeah, he said you're walking the line right between them, and I'm like, yeah, oh you know, like yeah, flattery will get you everywhere, Sir, wasn't he What was it exactly? Chris said, he goes when he said, you're like an Appalachian, Gojira, he goes, you know, they're like all French and vegan, and you guys just bring all the meat. Yeah, we're bringing the meat. Yeah. I don't know, man, that was that was awesome. It was bad ass. That was a good time.

11:05 You know. Uh, I justl like, like real quick shout out to Wonder Wonder Wonder Bar almost said Wonder Brawl, like I've been saying it for days too, Like I always caught Wonderbrawl Wonder baron Wonder Bar shout out to Wonderbral. I don't know, but uh, that was a fucking amazing sandwich. Oh. It hit the It hit the spot like right when we needed it too. I mean yeah, it was a big ass like mushroom and swissburger like that big. I literally cut the thing in half so I could eat it. Yeah, like that was a bad ass. We Uh.

11:48 It was weird though, because it was when we ordered down the line. Denny ordered his and then Tyler was like, crap, that's exactly what I wanted. And then when it got to me, I asked what the other burgers were, and I picked the bacon cheddar and then Day was like, shit, that's what I want. Me and Dave had a secret conversation later. Yeah, you guys were inside and me and Dave were outside. He was smoking and he was like, I'm gonna be honest with you, Denny. I kind of wanted that three cheeseburger and I'm like, fuck, do you know I did too? And he's like, well, that would have been fucked up if me and you got the same burger. I'm like, I don't know, Dave. I mean, there's only so many burgers, and there's four of us. The ratio is kind of it stayed fifty fifty, you know what I mean. Right. He's like yeah, but he's like, I think the other guys would have been upset if me and you got matching burgers. And I'm like, you know what, Dave, one of these days we're gonna have to sneak off and get our matching burgers, which it'll be our secret. All I keep picturing is you guys holding hands skaping down the well on the road. First time he went out by himself, I was I went with him because I was afraid that like a car load of like women were gonna like snatch him and take him. And we need him to play drums, right, you know what I mean. We can't he can't be you know, taking whatever it is they We don't have Liam Neeson around to help us. I know, dude, I don't have

13:20 Liam Neeson the skill set, that specific set of skills for cracking down Dave. You know what I mean. It was weird because I told him, Matt, you know, I was like, so if a boatload of you know, just beautiful women show up and try to take you, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna save you, Dave. I'm gonna stop it from happening. And He's like, well, why would you do that to me? And I'm like, because we're friends, Dave, I got I can't let I can't let you be taken. What are you talking about? And then he was it just wasn't the same after that the rest of the day, you know, like it's like he was, I don't know, weird, you know, Yeah, I'm offering a saving Muna, save your life, you know, and the way you're upset with me. Yeah, and uh, the all the locals in the area were convinced we were a biker gang even though we were all walking. Yeah, it was the part I find am using. It was funny. Oh god, yeah, good times. Man.

14:26 I've really enjoyed that. That's fun. I can't wait to see the final product. Oh, I know, we gotta play it on here, we gotta. I think we should we should, uh, we should definitely with the daily drops or whatever, we should. We should definitely blast it out on this and let everybody see it because it's really cool. We're super proud of it. It's it's gonna be awesome. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of work in them making too, you know, like we've we've spent the better part of a year and a half honing out these songs, you know, ironing them out. And yeah, I was what I was really just absolutely tickled with was is that even though our on stage sound wasn't that great because we're recording so like we kind of had to be you know, down in volume to keep the headroom for the actual Yeah, but I was the whole time, especially with Ragnarok, the timing and Ragnarok has to be we have to be there. And the whole time I'm playing, I'm thinking, oh God, are we still in time? I can't hear my guitar because of course Dave really likes that one symbol right next the drowns out my guitar. Yeah, when it drowns out my guitar, it drowns out Everything's all I had is that symbol in your vocals, And I'm like, oh God. And when we watched the playback, I was like, yeah, holy shit, it was like right there,

16:00 you know. Yeah, I was pretty I was pretty happy with it. Yeah, because even if we went in and out of time signature, we went in and out together. Yeah, it was tight, you know. Uh, I had I had a decent mix. Uh, being right in front of the drum kit, so obviously I could hear him perfectly. Yeah, so I kind of had a I had a pretty good mix. When they got you in my and your guitar and my monitor, I could hear you a lot better, which was very helpful. Yeah, but uh, having a vocal monitor aimed up at me was extremely nice. Yeah, that I'd forgotten how nice it is to have a monitor right there. That's just you know, it takes all the strain out, you know, the strain work. Yeah. It was pretty fun, man, I really enjoyed it. It was a It was the most uh. I think it might have been the most prepping for like a show ever because of all you know, complexities and stuff they had to like set up. But god, that was fun man that I would totally do that again, you know, like down the road a while, you know, once the aches and pains of the load ends and load doubts are gone. Yeah, we need to um enlist some younger help. Yeah, the load end load out. Yeah, that would be nice. Yeah, for sure. I totally understand why,

17:33 like national acts that have been playing for thirty forty years have entire crews to do everything for them. Yeah. Oh hell yeah, dude's it's where's you out by the time you get up on stage to play your exhausted? Yeah. I mean like after our first sound check, I was like, dude, I'm I'm like falling asleep right now, Like yeah, yeah, that's that's why. I as soon as I was I was looking at you and I was like Denny is looking like I feel Oh yeah, that's why I was like, we need to go get some protein, we need to go eat something. Yeah. It was a lot of work playing that rock and roll music. Yeah, and the gig buzz. You know, you know what I'm talking about. If you never played live music, you know what a gig buzz is. It's you've got that wound up. You may not have any energy, but you're wide awake because you just played a show.

18:36 Yeah. So it kept me up really late last night until it finally petered off. Every time he's such a coffee down, there's a drum roll? Is it really? It's a rim shot? Every time he's such a oh this whole time that I swear every time you set your coffee down, there's a rim shot. But it isn't. No, it's a rim shot. It's that. But you know what it is, Holy shit, my headset is laying on that and it was laying on that button when I said down. It's it's like the vibration was making the button. So you're telling me you didn't press it at all this whole entire time. No, Oh my god, that thing with Dave it you literally set your coffee down and that's why I was laughing, because you did a rim shot. Yeah, it was literally hilarious. This like I don't know if you can teach the amount of like how good at this? We all we are, like I just you know what I mean, that's just what's so modest. So I didn't have no idea what was happening. I can't hear that stuff like it's not Yeah, I have no idea what the hell I was even saying. But that ship cracked me up because I'm just like, it dawned on me that's

20:07 what was happening. I see you such a coffee down and it's a rim shot, and I'm like, why did he rim shot? I wasn't saying anything funny. No idea was that. It's great. I love it, like it's gonna come through here. Yeah, that's fucking hilarious. Oh man, Yeah, yeah, the gig buzz and uh I'm I Yeah, I was up super late and I'm exhausted this morning. Same. Yeah, I was. I stayed up late hanging out with my kids, talking to them, and they've had a little you know, they had a couple of things go down over the week, so they were I was trying to chill with them and you know, make them laugh. You know, I ended up making me laugh more than I made them laugh. I think we got onto.

21:03 We got onto Discord together and started playing all these games together, and it was like one was like scrabble, and I like, maybe maybe I'm a little bit of a sword loser on this. I don't know what it is about board games. Something gets into me, you know what I mean. I don't not proud of it, but I fully believe some of the fucking words were made up as bullshit. It was like my son like drops a a L and he's like, oh, yeah, that's a word I'll and I'm like, that's not a word. Then when I click because it shows you the definitions, so I click on the word and it's like, oh, this is an Arabic measure of or measurement unit. I'm like, who the fuck was gonna know that? You know what I mean, You don't grab your scrabble board out. You try that scrabble that shit at the table. You know with the family, you'll get voted out of your family.

22:04 That's when the table flips and yeah, fuck that. Get out of here with that Arabic measuring units. You're not supposed to be able to use international language, aren't you. Aren't you supposed to like set rules when you start up, like English words only, you know, no plurals. We would think no possessors. I don't know, because it was it was letting plurals too, because my son's like the captain of putting an s at the end of everything and just getting the points for all that. Yeah, and I'm like, you little shit. And then me and my son played poker. Well, my daughter played too, but she bet the farm too early and lost everything. So me and my son squared off in poker for literally an hour, just trading money back and forth until finally something happened and it messed up, and we just decided to call it a draw, because you know, it was it was just never ending, you know. And no, we played like a putt put game or whatever, and that game is bullshit. It's bullshit. That game is rigged bullshit. So not not behind that at all. I saw a game recently that I thought would be absolutely hilarious for us to do. Yeah, and it's kind of like pictionary, but it's online pictionary, and you know, everybody's over here in the columns, you know, and everybody has to type end their guests. Oh yeah,

23:36 and all the wrong guests to show up. So if like you got shit spelling or anything like that, it's it's you know obvious that's on there. Yeah, yeah, scribbly dot io or whatever it is. Yeah, I don't know, booth. Yeah that was I thought something like that would be hilarious because we're just absolutely goof ases. So oh yeah, that's fun. We played that. We played a couple of round into that, and uh, it turns out my drawing is not great because I don't I tried to do quicksand my word was quicksand and I just I drew like the death, like I just took like brown, and I made the desert and I just drew half a stick figure like yeah, in the in the sand or whatever. And my kids are like, it's a cactus. It's a cactus.

24:26 I'm like, it's no. So that's the problem because your kids didn't grow up in the eighties. That's what I was hoping i'd get them, you know, yeah, like using my using my eighties advantage my eighties. I better not say that. Never mind. It was that was close one. You guys almost saw it. You guys almost saw the moment that this episode got demonetized. Yeah, got some uh got some kind of shitty news.

25:07 This is a bummer. Back on actually, back season one. I brought this up. I remember telling Tyler about it first. I remember telling you about it later, Josh. This lady's name was Claudia Actley, and she had a mighty like a pretty intense encounter with what she believed was the Sasquatch. Now, I made this point to the guys earlier, and I'd like to make it to you guys listening and watching too. Okay, so a lot of us who are still kind of on the fence, we all have a similar feeling. Well, if you've seen it, why didn't you pull out your phone? Everybody's got a phone film it. That's exactly what this lady did. This is her right here, as Claudia Actley. She was out in California, had her kids or daughters with her, they were hiking and she saw something that changed her life. And when she went to the she actually went to the park board, the California Park Board, And the reason she did it was because what she saw, she thought wasn't real.

26:26 So when she went to the parks, they were they discredited her, saying you what you saw was a bear. Her belief was, now I know what I saw and it wasn't a bear, and you need to be telling people that this shit is in these forests because I was out there with my children. Her argument was from the point of view of a mother who had children. She sees this thing that she thought was not real, scares her, scares her kids, and I have the original video and I will show it to you at least part of it. I believe the there's more to this, but from what I understand, it was removed. There was a part of it where the children get extremely scared, and then she starts getting scared, and she kind of gets the children and they walk backwards away from it. I don't think that they left that in the film. I don't think that. I think it was removed. But I remember seeing the original and when the children get scared and then the mother starts getting scared.

27:41 It was disturbing, to say the least, because you're like, damn, so I'm gonna show you a couple of different things guys about this. It's pretty well, one of this is probably one of the only videos that is compelling enough for me to be a supporter of Claudius. I thought she saw something. Now here's a here's the original, and I'm gonna press play here. Let mean max out this so I swear to God you guys can hear. If you guys can't hear, let me know. Yeah, yeah, I know you're probably looking down right, you're looking down at the bottom.

28:37 Down at the bottom is not where it's at. It's up there. MoMA three, yeah, I shoulder, Yeah, I know, I don't know, yes, m yeah. The position of the thing where it was at, the sheer size of it alone is hard to it's actually kind of hard to fathom, to be honest with you. The video quality is so bad.

29:30 I know. Yeah, Mom, Mom, did you see it? Do you think it was bigfoot? Tell us in the comments. So that's that's one part here. Um, This one I think is a it's a comparison that, if I'm correct, this should show some of the movements.

30:14 And I believe that this uh and this phone was at its absolute maxed out pixelization, like there was no way to get any more detailed without getting right up on it and then I have a couple more things. I have one more here that I uploaded myself. Yeah, I've always like wondered, like even no, like this original film was this video was filmed? Uh what was its twenty seventeen. Yeah, like as far as you can zoom in, and then on top of it, you like if it starts to blend into the background, the pixels start to bleed into each other there, so it's really difficult to see any details. Yeah. Yeah, this was part of her you know mission. You can see this like that's that's the same spot, side by side comparisons here. Let me go back to that real quick. Back it up just a second. And that's another thing she did.

31:22 She went back to the trail and started putting pictures or those up there for people to you know, like if somebody saw something to get a hold of her, you know what I mean. So you guys see the big area up there and then then it's empty. Basically you can kind of get an idea of how much mass was up there in that tree. I should have made a loop of just that. Honestly, I don't know what I was thinking. Oh shit, my bed that's here. Yeah, So what I mean. There was another guy who went to the location and climbed it right, climbed up the tree thirteen feet in the air and broke up the tape measures and measured everything right. And I always thought this was really cool because he got up there and measured everything comes back and like just gives you every measurement, you know, from like he was like, this branch is this long from here to hear's this long from here to hears this long.

32:43 And then he put that that still back up and he's like, so this thing is this long, like he's showing you, and that video vanished, and I've like, I remember, I know I told you about this video before because it was so good. This guy was so thorough not find that video because I remember you saying that he estimated if this was after like doing all. Yeah, he said it was about thirteen feet if I'm correct, that's what you said. I don't know if the guy said it was thirteen feet or if the tree was like if it was that high up, I don't know, okay, but I mean he estimated that the critter or whatever it was, I mean, it was fucking big. That's why big people were saying like, well, it could have been a bear. It's just it was unusually large. Like if you told me it was like two guys sharing a bigfoot costume. I believe that, you know what I mean, Like like, okay, yeah, because that would give you the size you need, like this thing, you know, it was a fridge. Let me ask you like this, Okay, do we know what location this is?

33:55 I've never asked this question, especially when we talked about it. Really, I mean it was somewhere up in California. I could try to get the exact location. Well, I was just saying, like I know some of these like and this is a park, right, yeah, it was one of the one of the parks up there. Um, because I was wondering, like, is it common for a bear to be around these areas? I have no idea California, yeah, just about anywhere about Los Angeles. I mean there's a bear on their flag and shit, I get that.

34:36 But Lake Arrowhead, California. The only reason why, like yeah, like I'm just trying to compare to like to see is like, yeah, it's a normal thing for a bear to be in those parts. It is, I mean it is known for him. Yeah, black bears. Is there any I wonder if there's any kind of uh warnings saying that there are bears in this park could be bears and well, I mean okay, so or is that just a given that people should know. I mean I imagine they probably you know, I can only imagine that they probably like, you know, remind you, like, hey, don't forget these fuckers are everywhere, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, they have a roughly you call it, thirty five thousand black bears in California. But black bears don't get that big, do they? Like? The only ones that get really early big or grizzly bears, right, I mean down being well, brown bears are grizzly bears. So brown bears are grizzly bears. And Kodiaks, well, you don't see you would? Would you see a codiac around there? Because I thought that was only where they're from. CoDIAK bears are

36:07 only known to be in a Lascar. Yeah, and it's not a polar bear. Those are massive, but I feel like we would have noticed, Yeah, that polar bear walking through the front yard, he's gonna stick out a little bit. Like since we're talking about I know, I'm getting off the track. Did you guys hear about the albino uh bear brown bear that has been every time like activists that've been trying to like they thought it was a creature, like it was a polar bear that was taken from its natural habitat and brought and it was released or it got loose from somebody's h facility, and they keep taking it back to the North Lake to to the Arctic, like, and this is a brown bear. It can't survive there.

37:05 It's done. They've done it three fucking times, and it's a albino like brown bear and they keep taking it back to the coldest blar and it can't survive. It almost died three fucking tides because they keep thinking it's a bowlder bear. Oh my god, like really, yeah, dude, you can only imagine him, like, you know, because they probably tranquilize it, right and he wakes up and he's like, oh god, what night man? I was getting into these garbage cans and they was like, oh, it's a little well Nippoli out here. Fuck they probably back up here again, God damn it. Yeah. So there used to be a species called the California grizzly bear. Really, Yep, it's extinct. When did it go extinct though, twenty eighteen? Yeah, I was gonna say maybe maybe the last one was in her video. I'm trying to find when it actually went extinct. I'm not having a lot of luck. I don't know why you would think that would be an easy thing to find. Yeah, try

38:42 another search. I don't know. It's hard to say. It's interesting that, like the Claudia Actuley thing is is interesting because this lady was so convinced that what she saw, you know what, I mean, that she lived early went after Okay, so it went extinct in nineteen twenty four. That's stuff pretty recent. Yeah, and they were up to eight feet thousand pounds eight footbaar. I mean that gets us back in the realm of possibilities.

39:25 How crazy would it be if it was extant and not extinct? Yeah, I mean this has happened before. It has happened. Yeah, I mean, let's face it, we humans, I mean, we like to think that we categorize and enlist everything, but there's always room for fuck ups. Oh yeah, you gotta think about it too. It's it's a common thing that you still see to this day just because you like, uh, what about that one uh video that I showed you guys. It was a TikTok video of that that dog of that wolf that was oh yeah, that thing was mad. Yeah, like, okay, what if that was a dire wolf or something like I'm not saying that it is, but uh but they're like, that's like you it's not common like you, oh it's a it's a wolf, Like you don't see a wolf all the time. So you're the little dogs like trying to well, it's not a little dog. I think it was like it was like midsized dog. Like I love him, Ernie, but you know, I gotta bring her back. And once she gets done whooping ashy, she gets tired, she's got a nap, you know what I mean. She's a little but she she she don't take their ship. Give me one saying guys back, I'll of you guys my exact

40:58 copy. Uh stunt double yep, yeah, thank you. But yeah, uh was it a So yeah, that's kind of like where I was going with the whole thing, is that we can't because it's it's so similar to what the other indigenous like bears that are around there. Seeing one of those wouldn't surprise somebody unless they dive a little deeper and actually look at it. Okay, this is something that's supposed to be technically extinct, right, because like how many times have we like, what's that term that you we've used before where we thought it was extinct but it was, uh, you just extant? Is that what? A Yeah, it's kind of like a rebuttal to the extinct. You know what Now I'm now I gotta look it up and make sure I got the words right. I can't remember. I like, I think I remember you saying it, but the extent, I don't know if that's what I remember you guys saying M still in existence? Is what extent means? Okay I was I was right, You're right, okay, extint So yeah, like it's a it's a big possibility. Like Danny

42:34 was saying, it's like we're we like to say that we're we do our due diligence, and we we may uh what we say is the truth at the time, right, Just because that's the truth right now doesn't mean new facts, uh come up and say like, oh no, we were wrong. We'll try again later. I manage a picture of I don't know if it's taxidermied or if it's a stuffed fake or whatever of the California grizzily. It's um not looking good for our um good to you. No, not for the video. Um, it's not looking good to be our suspect.

43:23 Okay, are you looking for the bear? Okay, I got him down here. Deplete, Yeah, stuff up. It's uh, it gets messy. If somebody doesn't go through take care of this, I'll show you. He's uh, he's pretty brown, very brown. Yeah. The another thing, too, is like this has been monsting. Is like the short nose because the black bear of brown bear blue those yeah, I heard that those are pretty like back then, like those things pretty bass. It was like, I want to say, they arrived from the side of the Polar Bear longer blue the other blow they were ancestors. Yeah yeah, so iver hear your black This is the California sam Very vehicle. H you know, he

45:07 ate he ate a few people for sure,