S326: Just start swinging. The Travis Walton story.

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You are listening to The Kentucky X
Files Season three with your hosts Dennis Mays,

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Tyler Stewarts, and Josh Gibbs.
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x files dot com and now onto our

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show. The report Okay is a
recording, I guess. So. Yeah,

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we were just just going to keep
talking. Good. So I'm professionally

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the back of the Age or unt
cast of China. Welcome back, guys

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to your Kentucky X Files. Ah. Do I remind you of the turtle

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video? Yeah, exactly what I
was thinking of. Turtle video, the

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one one of the turtles humping the
shoe. Oh yeah, and he's like,

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Okay, I can't get it out. You weren't you? And I

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laughed in your old studio for weeks
over that. And Day Job Orchestra,

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Oh my god, day Job Orchestra. They are the biggest shout out.

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Yeah, probably some of the best. I know. There's there's new channels

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out there that do like the and
you know what is it bad? Yeah?

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Yeah, but them guys, man, they were especially when they went

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at uh George w m hm.
You know they love ye the fucking drops.

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That was sweet. It was like
it was everything was parmegranit m hm

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Like no, it was a beef
parog get their star trek ones though.

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Yeah, yeah, that's what I
was just thinking. It was. Captain

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Schulicard really liked beef parogies. He's
like, I'm gonna go have a rub

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down with Beverlely. Yeah. The
Lions, Oh, the Lions, hours

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of Enter two hours on video.
Yeah, that one video. Anybody out

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there hasn't seen day Job Orchestra on
YouTube, go immediately and tell them the

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Kentucky X Files sent you. Yeah, DJO, Yeah, because I don't

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think that Djob Orchestra get you some
of them. But if you're looking for

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the Lions specifically, yeah, DJO
Lions, Yeah, watching a few extra

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times. Yeah, it is stupid. It's great ship though, And Turtle

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Fox's shoes pretty good. That's that's
yeah. Yeah. I ran across the

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Joe cartoon the other day. Oh
my god, I haven't heard that word

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forever, and I was like,
this dude's this dude's still around. I

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don't I think he does like more
music stuff now like, I don't think

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he does the cartoons quite as much, like every down again, But that's

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the guy that does the um the
d D thing, right. He did

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the like hamster and a blender,
m um, you know the Christmas thing,

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the animation I sent you the Santa
Claus he ships out of reindeer.

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Yeah, yeah, he does that
one. Uh classics. Yeah, it

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was a gerbil in a blender or
a hamster in a blender. Probably a

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hamster. Yeah. And he didn't
he to do super Fly too. Oh

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god. There was like three of
them and they were like my favorite.

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Yeah yeah, man, you piss
a super fly. Yeah. I always

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loved how the animals would have They
would be seemingly normal until the end,

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then all of a sudden they had
superpower, Like the fly could just straight

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fly through somebody. Yeah. That
was fucking amazing. Yeah, good stuff.

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Man, early days of the Internet, I never thought that that stuff

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was gonna be like an like an
antique, like a relic. Now it

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was like like stick Death, Oh
my god, stick Death Yeah, yeow

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amazing. Stick Death was fantastic.
Do you think somebody one day it's gonna

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be like flipping through and they're gonna
be like, God, do you remember

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Kentucky XFI? Do you remember them
guys? Wow? Hope you know who

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I watched a marathon of like two
weeks ago. Is that Strong Bad,

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Strong Bad? Do you remember the
Strong Bad emails? I can't remember.

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It sounds famailure. He was the
Lujador. He was a little cartoon lujador.

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Hang on, let me all right, continue talking here and I'll pull

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up a picture of him. I'll
throw it in here. I think it'd

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be hilarious if one day somebody was
flipping through and they were like, oh

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my god, I remember these guys, whatever happened to them? And they're

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reading through an article and it's like
Tyler was the first person to ever raise

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cattle on Mars when Elon Muska set
you know, the colonists. I don't

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think I have the strength of that
right now. Yeah, it's a shame.

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What happened to Denny though it was
April twenty nine, twenty three,

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died of an abscessed tooth. Huh. Very prophetic, you know, but

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very specific too. What happened to
what happened to Josh? What happened to

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what happened to Josh? Like,
let's hear what there's got to be a

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legend. What happened to him.
I'd like to think that he's he's out

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there and he's messing around in his
garage. You know, he's got a

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collection of guitars. Yeah, maybe
some gold records, you know, sprinkle

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some gold records up there. You
know, though a couple of extra ones

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in there. You know. I
like where this is going, and you

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know, like up and coming artists
are coming over to to you know,

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hang out with him and learn the
secrets. You know, but they have

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to they have to survive the mead
first. You know. It's not it's

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not easy. Good look I filled
this horn, fool, here's strong bab

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oh Okay, I remember this guy. Yeah, homestar runner dot com.

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That was the check out my am. I still do that, like just

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to check my email because that's what
he does in one. And here's the

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things, like I guess it was
a Mandela effect. I thought he did

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it in all of them. Yeah, no he doesn't. It was only

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one that he was just like checking
my meryl. I don't know why he

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did it like that, just stuck
just stuck in my brand like a worm.

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And it's their birth that's awesome.
I do remember that though. You

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guys remember the Crank Crank Anchors?
Yeah, yeah, I still every now

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and again, every now and again, I'll be like, hey, lady,

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I tell you there was there was
a show that was sort of like

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Crank Anchors um as far as like
the platform. It was called Shorties Watching

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Shorties, but so instead of muppets, it was cartoon characters. It was

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two cartoon babies that would watch were
clips. And dude, I don't know

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what happened to that show and why
it didn't last. I'm gonna have to

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find a specific episode. Yeah,
and I'm gonna send it to our chat

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and you guys are gonna like lose
it. Hell yeah, it's good stuff.

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Yeah, I miss them all days. Man, there was every cartoon

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that I can remember growing up would
probably not fly now, you know what

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I mean, you fucking think.
I mean, think about the teenage muting

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Ninja Turtles in the eighties, right, okay, And all you have to

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do is look at how look at
how April is dressed, and they would

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not do that now and then nowadays
where people were like confused, what was

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wrong with Am I just too old
enough to realize that there's an issue.

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Well, I was looking at this
thing where it was talking about how April

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was was kind of, uh,
God, this is gonna like, this

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is just gonna be one of those
topics where Okay, basically she was like

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always pigeonholed into a certain role and
she was dressed for this role. And

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then when they made the new movies, they pretty much dialed that up to

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like a million. And there's this
whole movement out there that doesn't like that.

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They don't like when the actor fits
the role too much. God,

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there's just no way to say it. You can't even say it without pissing

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you all off. I am so
fucking confused right now. I'm just gonna

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be honest. Hang out here.
Here's some weird, weird facts I just

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learned about that. Okay, you
guys remember the live action movies, right,

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the first one? Okay, remember
the beginning part where I think it

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was probably the beginning. It was
around the beginning part where Michelangelo is waiting

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for pizza. He's like, pizza
guy's thirty has got he's got thirty seconds.

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The guy, the pizza guy is
the guy that actually is in the

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costume of Donna Tello. That's his
cameo in the movie. Really, the

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guy that does all the action scenes
in Donna Tello's costume. The wise man

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say, don't pay full price for
late yeah pizza. And then the guy

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remember Rafael when Raff went out and
he was in the trench coat and he

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was running after like Casey Casey Junes
and he rolls over that taxi cab.

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The guy in the back seat is
the guy that does all the action scenes

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inside the costume of Raphael. Yeah, yeah, that guy. And then

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there's some I can't remember. I
can't remember the one that does Mikey and

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uh Leonardo, but they said the
guy remember when the foot Clan finally catches

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up to April and that one of
the foot clan smacks her in the face.

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Yeah, that's supposed to be I
think that's supposed to be Michael Angelo

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or Leonardo, one of the two. No kidding. Yeah, they all

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made cameos inside the first movie.
But I like, dude, I just

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really like so like, I can't
remember what it was another podcast. It

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was on a real and I uh, it was just I was just scrolling

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through and I saw that I was
like, no, way. That's pretty

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cool. You out there listen to
the other podcasts and cheating on us.

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Hey, you gotta diversify. Yeah, that makes sense. All right.

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So I'm I'm putting some pictures up
here that are gonna briefly I want to

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I want to get out of this
one. So I'm just gonna put these

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out here and let your imagination kind
of go with why they don't really fly

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anymore. Okay, So yeah,
I get it. Holy crap. Okay,

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so you're talking comic book. Oh
yeah, yeah, it wasn't just

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it wasn't just a comic book though. Okay. So there's that one,

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there's a here's this. This is
an updated one. Okay. You could

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tell that there's a scaling difference,
you know what I mean? I see,

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I don't remember those from the cartoon
as much. Yeah, yeah,

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I remember that. Yeah, I
remember that. That's because in the cartoon

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the scale changed pretty much from episode
to episode, and it was it was

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one of them deals where it was
like it I don't know if you guys

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ever like look into like the Disney
thing and like how much hidden shit is

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going on back there? Animators from
back then, we're fucking there were fiends,

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Like they were literally fiends. They
hit all kinds of shit and it's

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hilarious. So was the was the
first or second one from the original n

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It can't be from the original comic
book because the original comic book was in

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black and white and they actually used
guns. It was a very dark,

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very comics or graphic novel. Yeah, I see, I wasn't. I

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never remember that because all I remember
is the jumpsuit. Yeah, I don't

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remember the little little points where like
she would be doing something and like one

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of the turtles would be sitting there, Like I mean, this stuff was

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everywhere, though, I was,
Why do I not remember this? I

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was listening to Joe Road and talk
about Pinocchio. Yeah, the original Pinocchio.

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Maybe did you see did you guys
ever listen to that with the Jim

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Brewer? No, you mean the
animated like the first first animated when the

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part they were talking about the pub
scene where this guy was like basically telling

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stuff the fox that like there was
like this character was a fox. It

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was like evil or whatever. Yeah, and he's like telling him. He's

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like, nah, you take the
stupid boys, and he's like the fox

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is like, well, what you
know what a whatever and he's like no,

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no, no, no, they
don't kill him. He's like,

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you take him to Pleasure Island and
then he's like Pleasure Island and he's like

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yeah, and they don't come back
as boys. I'm like, I loved

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that movie, Like why why are
we? You know what I mean?

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Like this is terrible. This actually
brings up a weird one for me.

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Okay, I don't know. You
guys were probably older like past this.

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Do you guys remember the Will Smith
movie Wild Wild West? Yeah? Okay,

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do you guys remember any real parts
about that movie? Oh? Really?

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Okay? Okay, Well, the
one main thing I want to like,

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because we were talking about things that
went in slide today. I remember

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this was advertised at Burger King you
could get toys. I remember getting toys

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from this thing. And dude,
there was a scene where he meets this

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guy's I think it was named is
doctor doctor Loveless, and he had half

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of his body and they were going
back and forth, like making jokes about

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who they were, which doctor lovel
is making racist comments yea, saying that

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I don't want you to be a
slave to your disappointment, and something about

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like it's saying other racial slurs.
Yea. And this was advertised it's a

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PG movie. It was advertised is
a four kids basically, I know it's

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his PG is still parental guidance,
but there's no age restriction on it though,

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right, That's what I'm saying.
It's like this the craziness. And

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I've never heard anybody say crap about
this movie. Yeah, like, there's

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never been any backlash on that.
You gotta keep Wild Wild West out of

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your fucking mouth. Yeah. Yeah, Well that's why I kept, like

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I kept thinking, is that it
was so long ago, but that's we

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still do that to this day,
where we vilify somebody that did a movie

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years and years ago. Basically,
man, I think I recently watched I

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recently watched Chris Rock do Us like
his comedy or whatever, and he I

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watched it, and I thought it
was interesting. But his title, I

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think made a lot of sense for
nowadays, the title of his show,

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and he explains it. You know, I'm not going to spoil it for

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anybody who wants to watch it,
but his title was called selective Outrage.

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Oh yeah, that's good. And
he goes through the whole thing about what

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selective outrage is, you know,
and it's brilliant. But that's what's going

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on, yeah right now. And
it's like I think I watched an interview

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with Jamie Fox talking about Robert Downey
Junior and Tropics under yeah, and how

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the selective outrage wasn't towards Robert Downey
Junior. It was towards Ben Stiller's Simple

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Jack. Yeah, Like everybody was
pissed about that. And everybody would you

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know, everybody would with with Robert
Downey. There was like a handful of

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you know, white women that were
upset with Robert Downey Junior. But for

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the most part, everybody was like, man, you you did a good

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job. You know. Even Jamie
Fox was like, I wasn't. I

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was there, dude, You're You're
amazing, you know. But but Simple

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Jack caught all the flak. That's
it's amazing. That's that's it's selective outrage.

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Yeah, it's it's amazing. I
don't know. I was on this

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kick the other day where I was
I was looking look at the older stuff,

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and I was looking at some of
these things, and um, that's

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actually how I came him across what
what I was gonna bring up to you

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guys. See if you guys were
familiar with the topic at all. Guy's

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ever heard of a man named Travis
Walton? This guy I don't recognize his

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face. Well, Travis has heard
a snippet of him. He is kind

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of a semi I want to say, semi famous guy. I mean he's

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I think now after all these years
later, now he's kind of back interested

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in the topic. But then not
so much. And there was a reason

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for that. In nineteen seventy five
he was working in a national forest and

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Travis was abducted by aliens. And
there's there's a couple of different ways you

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can tell the story. There's there's
one where the this is the biggest narrative

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that goes on for the last thirty
forty years now, is that they went

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up there, the ship zapped him
and sucked him up and took off.

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His buddies freaked out and took off
down the hill whatever, and then you

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know whatever. But the stories actually
pretty wild. Hearing it from him himself

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is it changes everything, right,
And when you listen to his story,

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he says that they saw it when
they were they were doing they were clearing

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brush, they were clear they were
up on this National forest. They were

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clearing brush. A forestry service was
coming through to take trees. Their job

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was to clear the underbrush so the
machines could get right in there and zip

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the trees and go. They were
raking the forest. Yeah, yeah,

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so common practice. It also helps
prevent forest fires and stuff while they're in

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there working. Yeah, the scrub's
gone exactly. So that was their job.

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In the movie, there's there was
a movie release called Fire in the

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Sky and the movie they were cutting
trees down and all that, but in

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actuality from his own mouth, they
were they were clearing brush and shrubs and

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stuff. Um. From from what
they said was they were on this contract

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for a while and they were actually
making decent money doing it. One night

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when they were uh, basically done
for the night, they were leaving,

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they saw these weird lights up on
this hill. So they didn't know if

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somebody was up there or something was
going on. They didn't know if they

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needed to go up there, and
you know, somebody could be you know,

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needed help or anything. So they
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there, there was a ship a
craft floating above the tree line and the

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lights were coming from it. Um, what happened next is where I decided

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to go back and listen to all
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something stood out to me. When
they got out, they were sitting there,

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they were actually like kind of like
this is freaking cool as shit,

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you know what I mean. They
were all nervous, but they were they

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were like, dude, look at
this, you know, like I figured

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it'd be like how we would be
if we saw it, Like, holy

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shit, dude, do you see
that thing? Yeah, that's that's fair.

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And then it started to emit this
low vibration. They said it was

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like a sound, but they felt
it. They didn't like they didn't hear

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it audibly, they could, but
they could feel it. It was like

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it was like vibrating them. So
they started to back away from it.

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Travis didn't back away. He kept
looking all six of the guy. Other

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guys later on would testify different things
that happened to Travis, but very similar.

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One guy said light hit him.
It was like an explosion of light.

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He goes flying. Another guy said
lightning struck him. Like everything that

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was described was close enough to the
same for me, where I was like,

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Okay, I can't really dissect that
one too much bright ass light.

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I've been close to lightning striking before. It's it's I mean, on a

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on a bad day, dude,
it would give you flashburn. It's that

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bright. You know, if you're
lucky and you're not too close, hopefully

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you don't. You didn't see it
long enough to burn your fucking you know

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eyes. But these guys said that
the light was so bright. He goes

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flying, He hits the ground and
crawls up to this this little like log,

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and I guess he was like trying
to take cover or something. The

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next thing they know, he's being
zepped up to the ship. They freak

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the fuck out. They jump and
pile into this truck, this pickup truck,

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and they hull ass down the hillside
they get I think they said that

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they the guy that was driving Mike. I can't remember Mike's last name.

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But when Mike got to a certain
point, he said, he kind of

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like got a hold of himself and
basically said we have to go back.

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And the other guys didn't want to
go back, but he said, He's

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like, you can wait here if
you want, but I got to go

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back. Nobody wanted to wait by
themselves. So everybody just stayed in the

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truck. They went back up there, and when they got back up there,

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there was nothing. There was no
trace. They were walking around in

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a group because they had one flashlight, and everybody was like not they were

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too freaked out. They didn't want
to separate. So they're walking around with

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one flashlight and they're looking. They
don't see anything. They stay up there

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for a while, so they went
back and they went straight to the authorities

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and they reported it. And when
they told the authorities what had happened,

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and the authorities thought that they were
intoxicated. They thought that everybody was drunk

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off their mind. Well, Travis
didn't show up. Travis didn't show up

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for a while. In fact,
it took him so long to show up

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that the other guys were being basically
being held in suspected a fucking murder at

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this point, and they kept telling
the same story, same story. Here's

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what happened, this is what happened. You know, why aren't you up

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there looking? You know, why
are you Why are we doing this?

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You should be there looking. You
know. Travis's brother was actually getting together

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large groups of people to go up
there and search the forest because at that

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point they were like, whatever happened
to him, if he was if there

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was a body here, he could
be eaten by something, he could be

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taken by something, we got to
find him before or we're never gonna get

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answers. So this became a big
deal. Other than Betty and Barney Hill,

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this was probably one of the biggest
most televised abduction cases that's ever happened.

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And the crazy part about this to
me is that Travis showed back up,

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like I want to say, it
was like almost six days later or

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something like that, like six days, seven days, so I can't remember,

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but he shows back up, and
in the movie it shows Travis just

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in a fucking phone booth. He's
just in a phone booth and he's trying

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to call somebody, and I think
he calls the main the main guy,

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Mike. But in reality, he
came. When he came to he was

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back up on that hill, almost
exactly where he got taken from, and

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he started walking down the hill and
he didn't even remember why he started walking.

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He just did. It was like
he was being driven and he saw

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the town's lights and he walked towards
them. He didn't collapse until he got

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off the phone. The phone was
still hanging there. So, in his

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own words, he thinks that he
passed out because he ed he remembered calling

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his family, and they didn't even
believe it was really him. They thought

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it was a prank. So he
calls his family and tells them like,

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I don't know where I am.
I'm in town. I'm in a phone

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booth, and they're like, we'll
be right there. So they start looking

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for him. They find him,
he's passed out. They take him and

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they start to get the story out
of him. For the next like month

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or two, he's almost catatonic,
like he can't he can't even formulate his

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sentences, and little things were setting
him off. No, I don't mean

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like you know, something spilling,
he gets pissed. I mean like he's

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straight up thinks somebody's after him,
and he's freaking out. He can't be

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in closed rooms, he can't be
in total darkness, he can't none of

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that. He's you know, he
even said to himself, he don't think

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he slept very much during that whole
time. That it took. It took

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months to get back to normal again. And that's when the hypnosis happened.

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That's when they hypnotized him to find
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and again this is where I pick
up little details that I think are

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strange. Okay, in his memories, he came to on the ship.

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He just didn't know it was a
ship. He comes to and he's looking

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around and he cannot figure out where
he is or why, but he knows

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his lums and his back are burning. He can't hardly breathe like he's.

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He's literally struggling for air. He
can't like he's. He feels like he

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thought he was dying. He thought
he was dead. And he doesn't even

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remember exactly when the first of the
beings came to him, but they slowly

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but surely started to come to him, and these beings started to try to

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coax him, you know, with
them. He freaked the fuck out,

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freaked the fuck out, had no
idea what he was looking at. In

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his own words, he starts swinging. He basically was like Tyler in Total

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Darkness and that clip that we made, all right, So he's telling swinging

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that's what it does. Darkness does
that to you, Okay, So that

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is point number one on my believability
scale. He didn't say I was paralyzed

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with fear I couldn't do anything.
He said, I straight fucking started swinging.

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And I'm like, there you go. Finally, finally someone's gonna say

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it, because yeah, there's probably
a good portion of us out there that

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would be too paralyzed to do anything, but I bet you there's just as

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many of us that would start fucking
swinging right now. The interesting detail that

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I was going to say is that
he started swinging at these things that we're

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trying to do stuff to him.
You know, he lost consciousness. He

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wakes back up, he's on a
table this time. There's a few of

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them. They're they're holding him like
this. They have these machines, they're

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doing stuff to him. Guess what, Old Travis goes for Round two,

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starts fucking swinging again, breaks out
of their restraint, shoves them off of

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him easily, And that's one of
my details there, easily shoves them away,

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starts swinging. They backed the fuck
off of him. They don't like

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men, they don't do that shit, and like shut him down. They

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literally back up, like okay,
right, how fucking go again? Right?

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Extra sensory uh, telepathy, So
they didn't have like a laser gun

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where they were like, it's knocked
him out. They straight up, We're

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like, okay, if he's freaking
out, back up, he freaks out.

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They leave, They exit, and
coincidentally another human shows up, but

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the human doesn't talk, it just
smiles. At that point, I would

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have been like, can you just
bring the fucking aliens back in? Just

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take your ass out of here,
because you know what I mean, that's

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uh, that's some like they think
that's what makes people like like each other

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and feel comfort type thing. The
feeling he described was an overwhelming feeling of

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I'm on your team. Let's just
come with me, and we're gonna get

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out of here. We're going to
escape. So the guy come on,

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grabs his arm and starts to pull
him, like come on, come on.

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He goes with him. He's like, he's like, after seeing them,

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this is human, I'm going with
this. So he at the time

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he didn't question. It wouldn't be
till later that he started questioning this whole

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thing. All right, So he's
following this guy all through this fucking ship

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to get out of this thing.
And he said at one point he looked

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up and he's talking to this guy
the whole time, like, where are

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we going? What are we doing? You know, how do we get

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out of it? And the guy's
looking back and He'm like and they keep

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going, right, he said.
At one point, the guy looks up,

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he looks up, sees a bright
light and he's standing in the fucking

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forest. Okay, standing in the
forest where he was taken or close to.

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Now. I know I've paraphrased this
whole story. This story is everywhere.

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You can listen to it. You
can listen to Travis Walton tell it

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in so many different ways. It's
amazing. The details never changed since nineteen

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seventy five. They have never changed. The other guys that saw the initial

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thing. Okay, what would be
the biggest motivator out there to make up

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a huge abduction story and lie about
it. Publicity money, book deals,

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book deals, money. He could
have got a piece of, like what

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the movie that you were talking about? Absolutely, because they I had I

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talked about this in season one about
the Amityville horror, because that's what they

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said that they thought that the fan
was making it up. Because they got

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a piece of all these book deals, and movies and stuff because it was

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their story. So yeah, it's
not four fetched to believe that. So

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yeah. Uh. The thing that
it was weird to me was that most

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of the guys, I think at
one point, I think they have they

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did make some money off of the
story. They made five thousand dollars.

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They made five thousand dollars. They
submitted their story to the National Enquirer,

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I think, and they were paid
five thousand dollars to run the story.

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And that seems more like a well, if we're going to be part of

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this, we might as well cash
in. Yeah, so then let's do

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this to cash in. But there
were some guys in the group that never

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took a red cent. They didn't
want any money. There's one guy that's

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actually changed his whole life around it
because he believed it was a it was

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a very religious experience. And he
goes to the site to this day,

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he goes up there and he and
he sits there and he prays. I

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mean every year he goes to the
same spot where Travis was taken and he

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sits and he prays, and he
will not take money and he will not

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do interviews about it. Uh So, Okay, well, I was just

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about to say it, as he
told. The reason why does he believe

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that these beings is believes that they're
divine? They were divine. And I

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want to throw a theory of my
own to you guys and see what you

407
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.960
guys think. Okay, because this
is after devouring everything I could find about

408
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.960
Travis. All right, here's the
notion that I got. All right,

409
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:00.480
it goes back to the initial sighting. Okay, they saw the ship,

410
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:06.480
right. The ship didn't come down
and followed them. It didn't show up

411
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:14.840
where they were at, right,
They drove to get to it. Okay,

412
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:19.960
that's that's a detail right there.
So the ship wasn't actively looking for

413
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:25.599
someone to abduct. Okay, they
showed up to it. They got out

414
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.920
and were looking at it. Fuck
yeah, I would. I'd want to

415
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.440
see it. I know it's dumb, but I never claimed to not be.

416
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.280
All right, So they get out
and they look, they hear that

417
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:46.079
noise. They all describe this noise. All right, Travis got caught by

418
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:52.679
something because if they were trying to
abduct him, that first blast would have

419
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.320
not knocked him away. I believe
that if they were trying to grab him,

420
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.960
they could have grabbed him easily and
taken him. I believe that whatever

421
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:08.239
hit him the first time damaged his
internal organs really fucking bad, to the

422
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:14.239
point where he was probably not gonna
make it. And what's the only time

423
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:21.800
us wild like our wildlife biologists ever
interfere with the animal as when we do

424
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.440
something to fuck that animal up.
If we do something to fuck it up,

425
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.239
then we'll intervene. Otherwise we'll let
it get eaten by a lion.

426
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.760
So if a lion would have came
out and jumped on Travis right then I

427
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:39.360
think he'd be dead today. But
he got too close the ship did something

428
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.280
to him. I don't think it
was intended. I don't think they're infallible.

429
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.559
So was there any other indications of
like, Okay, I remember in

430
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.920
your in the story you were telling
his lungs and his back was like killing

431
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:58.639
him. Did he ever say any
of that too when he was in the

432
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:05.000
hospital. Yeah, I see the
lungs. Okay, Well, imagine taking

433
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:12.480
a blast of radiation to the lungs
when you're looking up at something. Oh

434
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:23.559
okay, imagine radiation burn right.
So I was sitting there like, Okay,

435
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.440
he wakes up. They're not attacking
him. They're not trying to,

436
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:31.400
like, I mean, why fucking
bring him back? Like what would be

437
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.079
the point? It's like, dude, you have a spaceship, who cares

438
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.239
if you bring him back? You
could have chucked him out while you were

439
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.960
up there. We would have just
been like that was probably a bird,

440
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.280
you know what I mean? Like, Okay, I think they literally fucked

441
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.079
him up on accident, and they
were like, dude, let's fucking fix

442
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.639
this guy. Put him back.
Oh my gosh, shit, Oh the

443
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:58.519
boss is gonna be so mad times
the supervisor get here, you know what

444
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:06.960
I mean. I'm so fired.
Damn Philip Right, you ever walked in

445
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.239
on your employees, Josh and they
fucked something up and they're like they like

446
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.000
throw a blanket over and thinking that
you won't see it, Like why is

447
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.920
there a blanket? There? A
better question for you? Did they ever

448
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.760
try to fix it before you get
there so you don't find out? Oh?

449
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.679
Yeah, yeah, I really feel
like we got motivations here. They

450
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.719
accidentally fucked the guy up. They
didn't mean too. I don't even think

451
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.599
they were. Probably they weren't intending
to even They were probably getting ready to

452
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.119
blast off and get the fuck out
of there, so nobody would ever know

453
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.960
the difference. But I think he
literally just got caught in something and they

454
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:45.519
were like, oh shit, because
all of the things that happened, like

455
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.320
the trouble breathing, he said he
when he woke up, he couldn't breathe,

456
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.320
his lungs burned, his you know, everything was bad. He couldn't

457
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:58.679
he was struggling for breath even like
the lack of oxygen will cause hallucination,

458
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.440
right, so if you're in this
state where you don't even know what you're

459
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:10.840
looking at, you you might be
hallucinating, you might not be. And

460
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.920
these things are not very tough.
He pushed him off of him pretty easily.

461
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.079
They couldn't even restrain him. Even
he said. He was like,

462
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.280
I'm I was bigger than them,
Like they're not. They're not big,

463
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.679
they're not strong. Well, yeah, the same The same thing goes with

464
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.320
like if just like how you were
saying, like if we accidentally intervene in

465
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.800
and like wildlife, and it was
our fault. When we try to help,

466
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.679
we tend to back off no matter
what kind of species it is,

467
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.679
because we don't want it to hurt
itself. Again, that's why we don't

468
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:52.159
like if you're working on it's uh
working on something. Even like a wild

469
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.280
animal, you tend to like if
it starts to lash out, you let

470
00:39:54.280 --> 00:40:00.639
it do its thing until it calms
back down. So I I feel like

471
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:02.679
that would be the case. Like
I'm just saying, if they were this

472
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.519
advanced, they would be able to
have a way to keep you, keep

473
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.800
you down. But they're not doing
that because I like, I like your

474
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.920
theory. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think they could afford to

475
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:19.480
us to restrain him. I think
he was in critical condition. Yeah,

476
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.920
because if they do it, because
I feel like if you let it play

477
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.760
out and let them calm down themselves, it's less risk of more injury.

478
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:32.880
Yeah, because if you're trying to
restrain them, you're causing them stress.

479
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.880
That's that will be the catalect.
Like you, you're causing them stress,

480
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.559
so you would have to stop or
leave. Yeah, try to figure out

481
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.280
another way to keep them calm.
And I guess that would be the reason

482
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:52.079
why they chose another human, like
a vision of a human to help him

483
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.119
leave and stuff. That that was
that was I thought that was weird,

484
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.320
was like they backed off and left. This human appears yeah, like hey,

485
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:07.039
buddy, come with me, buddy, you know, like and it

486
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.079
was like josh it, It's like
that was their idea of what he would

487
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:14.079
need to you know. I think
at that point they probably were done and

488
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.360
they were like, okay, he's
he's okay, let's let's get him off

489
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.159
the fucking ship before he starts ship, you know what I mean, Well,

490
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.039
we do that like if you got
to like like think about in the

491
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.519
zoo where they have like baby eagles
that won't eat, they use a puppet,

492
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:32.679
you know, right, Yeah,
they have a people puppet. Yeah.

493
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:38.800
Yeah, I think there was like
an alien down there. Like they

494
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:44.320
did the same thing with a I
saw a video of a there was a

495
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.920
baby seal. There was a baby
seal that they found. It's three aliens

496
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:53.519
in a trench. Code. Yeah, they're on each other's shoulders. But

497
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:59.320
they did the they did with a
baby seal, like they made it.

498
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:05.320
They took an old wetsuit and because
it was looking for its mother, they

499
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:10.360
would they had a hole where they
put a bottle in so it would it

500
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.639
would think that it's his mother,
so it would rest next to it.

501
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:20.440
So I kind of like, I
feel like it's weird. To like look

502
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:25.519
at us as that primitive, and
it's a little terrifying that people like there's

503
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:30.519
beings out there that could treat us
like that. I don't know, I

504
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.679
don't think that. I don't think
it's a primitive issue. I think it's

505
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.719
more along the lines of if you
were in that situation. All right,

506
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:44.679
let's let's let's play the devil's advocate
here and say that everything Travis is saying

507
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.440
is one hundred percent factual. Right, I'm not saying he is. I'm

508
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.559
saying let's say he is because he
even he won't say that he is,

509
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.559
because right, thank you, very
hazy. Right, and then okay,

510
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.960
let's put you in a place that
you have no idea where you are,

511
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:06.960
what it is you're in. You
don't recognize anything. There's no comforting things

512
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.679
around you. There's no language you
recognize, there's no signage you recognize,

513
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:15.360
there's no you know, like we
have certain things that we always have.

514
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:17.320
You know, our doors are shaped
a certain way. It makes sense.

515
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.159
You know. You see a lever
on a rectangle in a wall, that's

516
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:30.480
a door. You know. Square
toilets definitely caught me off guard. That

517
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:37.719
mean, that was the worst part
was the square toilet. But but okay,

518
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.840
so you're in this position, right, and you're looking around and there's

519
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:50.440
a glimmer of hope, a small
bit of something you know, that's familiar.

520
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.280
It doesn't have to be perfect.
It could probably fall very deep in

521
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.400
the uncanny valley and still steam,
you know, and still seem like it's

522
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.880
just enough to be like, Okay, that's familiar, you know, because

523
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.159
in your mind, maybe the reason
this person isn't responding is because yeah,

524
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.599
maybe human, maybe it doesn't speak
English. Yeah, you know, maybe

525
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.960
you're rational. They took him from
Yeah, how can you rationalize something in

526
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.199
a completely irrational situation? That's exactly
it. Yeah, I think you're just

527
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:28.639
going to I think that anything that's
got the smallest glimmer of hope is going

528
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.760
to seem like, you know,
paramount compared to everything else. Oh.

529
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.000
Absolutely, I had a question.
I didn't think you answered it. But

530
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:43.800
did they find any thing wrong with
him health wise? At the hospital?

531
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:50.960
Health wise? I think there was
a there was a something like they released

532
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:55.320
about his health he had. Okay, now, okay, so here's where

533
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.119
this is. This is where things
got a little controversial, right, because

534
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:06.440
you had two different it had two
different parties reporting and disreporting it. There

535
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:12.880
was a mysterious person that came into
the picture during the whole investigation and offered

536
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:21.320
some reporter twenty five thousand dollars to
go and basically spread misinformation about the whole

537
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:28.119
thing. That guy was caught.
All right, guess what happened to that

538
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:34.079
guy? Rum If this was the
movies, he would be like, Oh,

539
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.519
they fucking killed his ass, right, No, no, no,

540
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:45.400
Cia hired him. Oh that makes
perfect sense. Yeah. The guy literally

541
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:51.000
went from he was like think think
you think of him like a moon.

542
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.840
He was basically just a moon working
around the whole investigation during the whole time,

543
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:01.159
and the whole time he's spreading disinformation, and he kept spreading all this

544
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:07.280
stuff about the Walton family, Um, how they were covering up a big

545
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.639
secret, all this stuff. It
was a plot to get rid of them

546
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:14.039
because of a brother or whatever.
And at the same time, even the

547
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.840
guys that were with Travis, all
right, he didn't get along with half

548
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:23.760
of them, the crew that worked
together, they didn't fucking like each other.

549
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.559
So that was the That was the
detail that the police got hung on.

550
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.840
They were like, oh, yeah, it's it's fucking known that they

551
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:40.280
fucking hate each other. So they
killed his ass that and you got this

552
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:44.079
other guy who's like, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I heard that they

553
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.639
were going to do it, you
know what I mean. So you'd expect

554
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.719
this dude to just disappear. Now
he got hired by the CIA. I

555
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:57.039
don't know if he still works for
him, but oh, so not surprised.

556
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:02.559
Yeah, I mean, well,
the CI is known for doing some

557
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:10.079
really really shady shit. They're supposed
to work inside. Yeah, that's uh,

558
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:16.920
that's all foreign. The CIA is
supposed to be foreign like agency,

559
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:22.280
like it's supposed to work outside,
oh, like the United States basically,

560
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:29.840
yeah, really technically not allowed inside
because that's FBI, except for when they're

561
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:37.280
paying prostitutes to pick up John's and
giving the john's you know, hallucinogenic drugs

562
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:43.679
and and and doing experiments on them
and then giving the black community syphilis.

563
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:49.239
And then weren't they responsible for blowing
up one of our own ships in the

564
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.400
Bay of Pigs, you know,
like they like to do shit to push

565
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:58.320
their agendas, that's for sure.
Yeah, but uh, there was a

566
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.840
question, another question. The only
reason why I asked is that there was

567
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:07.559
any radiation anything detected in his health. Was I bring it up a lot

568
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:13.719
because I feel like it's one of
the other only other, like abduction style

569
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.719
cases is the one that's local to
us. It's uh in Stanford, Kentucky.

570
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.239
The three women that lost time,
and they literally tested them and some

571
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:30.079
of them had radiation burns on them, right, and there's like no like

572
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:35.719
no real reason how they would have
got that. So with with Travis Walton's

573
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.760
case, the reason why it's it
is similar, but the reason why it's

574
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:46.960
it's also different is because for some
reason, multiple third parties had all showed

575
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:53.199
up and started screwing this case up
all right, So you you go,

576
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.760
it goes really quickly from could be
a group of guys that just hokes something

577
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:07.840
too multiple uh, like government agencies
involved all at once. Right. One

578
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.519
of the things that was really interesting
to me was that someone a government official,

579
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:19.880
had showed up to the police and
told them this is before he turned

580
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.760
up. By the way, when
he returns, we have a special group

581
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:28.360
that'll be able to care for him. He's going to need certain medical treatments.

582
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.280
And the police were literally like okay, like he's a missing person,

583
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.920
Like we don't know if he's gonna
show up, and this person was like,

584
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.960
he'll show up, but when he
does, just here's you. And

585
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.800
he like gave the what he call
it the boss. He gave him his

586
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.880
card, like just call me and
I'll send a team out. Was black,

587
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.880
Like was he in a like men
in black black suit? I don't

588
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.599
know, but you got like you
have FBI up there searching the mountain looking

589
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.679
for him. You got, you
know, like these these weird like disinformation

590
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.480
people that are out and about spreading
all these different rumors to the point where

591
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.840
it got back to the families where
it was actually upsetting the families where they're

592
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.280
like, you know, I think
at one point the brother was literally like

593
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:22.760
I was up there every day looking
for my brother, Like why would they

594
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.679
just choose me to say that I
wanted it wanted my brother did, Like

595
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:30.480
it didn't make any sense, you
know, And how close Travis was to

596
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.000
his brother, it was like no, why you know, but that I'm

597
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.320
not going to throw like slide against
his brother. But that's another thing too.

598
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:43.440
It's like a lot they always say
the killer returns to the scene of

599
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.920
the crime a lot, And yeah, that's true. I feel like that

600
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:51.559
would be one thing that people start
looking at like somebody that even if you

601
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.840
would watch any type of movie,
the person that's always on your side is

602
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:59.639
the one that's fucking you over.
Yeah, but normally the one that hates

603
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:04.239
you the most. Hence, his
friends, the people that he was with,

604
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:09.000
are the ones that actually don't want
harm to you, right. Well,

605
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.320
that's the thing. Most of the
guys in the work crew. The

606
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:20.679
thing that they were most upset about
when it was all said and done was

607
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:24.079
that someone had told the press that
when they showed up to the police,

608
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:30.440
they were all crying, and they
didn't want people to know that they were

609
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:36.480
crying. That was what they were
upset about. They said that after the

610
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.679
fact, they were angry that that
couldn't have just been left out. They

611
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:44.119
didn't want people knowing that they were
crying. But at the time they showed

612
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:49.000
up, they saw something absolutely unbelievable. They saw their you know, maybe

613
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.360
not a friend, but there their
coworker literally just gets sucked up into this

614
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.960
weird thing. They have no idea
what they're what they're looking at, or

615
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.639
what happened. And they showed back
up. They go to the authorities and

616
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.559
they're literally like bawling their eyes out
because they're upset and they're trying to explain

617
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.880
it, and it even they knew
how crazy it fucking sounded. But the

618
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:17.400
one thing that later on that happened
to Travis Walton that I found very strange

619
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:23.039
was that in an interview he let
slip because someone had asked him, like,

620
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:28.559
do you think they still check on
you? And he's never been a

621
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.559
person that's like, he's never like
set there and thrown out all these crazy

622
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:35.920
theories. You know, if you
if you watch his like track record,

623
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.559
there's a lot of guys out there
that have capitalized off of this topic big

624
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:45.400
time. But Travis Walton kind of
just does his own thing. You know,

625
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.360
he kind of tells his story.
Here's what happened to me. I

626
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.639
don't know if it's going to help, but you know, but he said

627
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.280
that he don't know if they check
on him, but one weird thing did

628
00:52:55.360 --> 00:53:01.119
happen, and he said it he's
it was the only time he ever suspected

629
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:07.280
that they might check in on him. Every down again, he said,

630
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.559
it's when his little boy, he
was like a toddler. I guess he

631
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:15.119
was a little bitty fellow. They
had one of those bedrails upon his bed

632
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.840
or whatever. In the middle of
the night, his little boy went to

633
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.000
climb out of bed and slipped and
slid down into it, catching himself in

634
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:28.239
the neck. And he was hanging
off the side of the bed, suspended

635
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.920
by his neck in this bar.
He basically was choking to death and couldn't

636
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:38.440
even scream out. And Travis said
that something woke him up from a dead

637
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:45.000
sleep to the point where he was
already standing up, and he went straight

638
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.519
in that room and got his little
boy and saved his little boy's life.

639
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.360
And he said he just sat there
and just like even now when the man

640
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:59.079
tells the story, he can't tell
it without like literally getting physically shaken by

641
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.760
it. Even though it's it's all
these years ago, he still can't let

642
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.119
go of that that moment when he
almost lost his son. Yeah, And

643
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.039
he said that as time went you
know, there's the shock of it.

644
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.679
It just he couldn't sleep very well. He was getting up and checking on

645
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:15.960
his son all the time, and
he was like he could not get over

646
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:20.000
it, you know. But as
time went on, he was like,

647
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:25.320
what what woke you know, what
woke me up? Because even his best

648
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:30.320
friend is a super big skeptic,
and he's like, you know, it's

649
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.920
my best friend, you know what
I mean. He's like, he's it's

650
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.320
just my best friend, and it's
it's okay, you know. And his

651
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:42.039
best friend said, he's like,
maybe you heard something. Maybe you just

652
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.199
don't remember hearing it, but you
heard something. And Travis's response was,

653
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:51.199
you know, maybe I did.
I don't know, maybe I did,

654
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.239
but he said, is sure.
Is weird that out of a dead sleep

655
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.679
he just wakes up, standing up
already and go straight to his kid's room

656
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.360
like he was on autopilot again,
the same way he was when he was

657
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:12.400
walking down that mountain that day.
Yeah. I think the story is fascinating.

658
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.159
I think it's it's absolutely fascinating.
I do think it was a case

659
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:23.920
of wrong place at the wrong time, you know. I think that if

660
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:30.320
they were there and they were doing
something, then I think he just got

661
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:35.440
kind of caught in the wrong,
wrong spot, you know, googling his

662
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:39.400
eyes up at this crazy looking ship, and then something happens. You know,

663
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:44.960
I got some pictures to show you
from it. Let me make sure

664
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.119
I'm hitting the right This is the
movie's depiction of the Aliens. If you

665
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:57.400
guys had never seen it. Now
here's another angle of it, kind of

666
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.400
kind of weird. I don't know, I don't know what's of that.

667
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.440
It's kind of kind of a world
simulator. That's probably a coincidence. But

668
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:09.840
uh, let's see what else we
got here. Uh. To the left

669
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:15.159
is Benny and Barney Hill. Betty
and Barney Hill. Um, that's a

670
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:21.000
that's another story that happened what ten
years prior, I think, very similar

671
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.559
circumstances. And this is some of
the guys on the right that uh in

672
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:30.119
that work crew. Let's see here. What else do I got here?

673
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:37.039
Yep, here's one of the newspapers
that was put out about the about the

674
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:45.320
story. Uh. And this is
the phone booth where they found Travis and

675
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.760
I thought I had more. I
think here's an artist depiction of the like

676
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:57.760
the actual scene what they saw.
Wow, so that that would be absolutely

677
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:05.599
terrifying. Yeah, So another another
newspaper clipping here, you can you can

678
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.960
kind of when you look through these
these newspaper clippings, you kind of get

679
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:14.280
the sense that everybody was kind of
taking their shots at him like a big

680
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:21.360
time, you know, except for
the people that were there. The people

681
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:28.280
that were there the people that experienced
it with them, the town um not

682
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.840
so much. They they didn't really
they didn't really pick at him for it.

683
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:38.960
They kind of I think the thing
was is that there was a big,

684
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:45.599
big detail that came out um that
kind of put a little bit of

685
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:51.639
a kink in the wheel. I
guess when it comes to like the possibility

686
00:57:51.679 --> 00:58:00.960
that they hoaxed, it was that
multiple counties saw the craft and there was

687
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:02.679
I think they said fourteen. I
might be wrong on this number, but

688
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:08.800
I thought it was fourteen eyewitnesses from
different places saw the craft. It wasn't

689
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:14.920
just a work crew, and that
was That was a big part of it.

690
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.639
That was a big deal because you
know, you can go out in

691
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:22.199
the middle of woods and say you
saw anything. Yeah, if nobody was

692
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.119
with you, there's nobody to prove
that you didn't. The only thing that

693
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.360
I like, there's questions that are
inside the story that I really want to

694
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.199
know. Yeah, it's like,
okay, what were they, what were

695
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.199
they doing? What was this accident
that happened? What was this bright light?

696
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:44.840
What were they what was this spacecraft
doing that could have caused him and

697
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:49.000
like that caused him harm? Yeah, So like what was the big bright

698
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.800
light that they shot down, Like
if they wasn't intentionally trying to get hit

699
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:57.960
like pull him up in the beginning, what were they doing? What was

700
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.320
doubt like like maybe was them trying
to take off when they saw the truck

701
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:06.440
come, But why wouldn't they have
lifted off, Like the craft stayed where

702
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:10.880
it was and never moved an inch
after its shot that shot that beam,

703
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:16.360
like yeah, yeah, a fighter
jet blows a flame long before it takes

704
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:22.400
off, So I mean, the
only thing is is, like, how

705
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:31.360
would they have noticed that like that
quick that they hit something like yeah,

706
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:35.559
I like, I know, I'm
I'm I'm grasping at straws here. I

707
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:40.320
wouldn't say that that's an excellent question
because I'm just like wondering because this is

708
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:46.159
the only one that I'm not entirely
sure if there's other incidents where beams are

709
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.960
light. The only time I've heard
of a beam of light coming out of

710
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:54.119
a spacecraft is that somebody's like the
beings are trying to pick something up.

711
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:59.039
Yeah, yeah, tractor beam,
Like that's the only thing. But a

712
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:06.400
bright light shooting down like lightning or
just just light itself that actually caused damage

713
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.400
to something like knocked him back.
Yeah, so that for a second,

714
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:14.440
I played with the idea of I
mean, you got a bunch of young

715
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.119
guys. They're looking up at this
thing. It's not that far away.

716
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:23.559
What if he picked up a rock
and these are forestry guys, bub they

717
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:29.360
might have been armed. What if
they pulled the pistol and shot. You

718
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:34.280
know, you're talking guys that are
in the woods for days. They don't

719
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.000
just a lot of times, the
forestry guys don't just go up and come

720
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.480
home every night. You know,
they go up and they're there at camp

721
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:47.239
working for days on end. Right, there's some dangers out there. I

722
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:51.960
mean, this would be a detail
that you'd probably leave out of the story.

723
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.920
Popping rounds off at flying things and
the skies. I mean, there's

724
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:01.719
there is the possibility that looked highly
upon for sure. Yeah. The only

725
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:08.159
other thing I was thinking that they
were they could have been drilling in a

726
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:15.159
way you do the ships. The
ship Maybe I don't. I mean,

727
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:20.000
who knows, remember, like,
okay, well that's another thing. Remember

728
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.639
the one in Michigan. The couple
that saw the one sucking water up into

729
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:30.199
its craft. Right, Uh,
maybe this is a different like different like

730
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:35.719
idea of it. But maybe they
were there was something under the ground that

731
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:39.679
they wanted or I don't know.
I like I said, I feel like

732
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:45.320
I am grasping at straws, But
I'm just wondering what was Like what was

733
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:50.960
it an accident? Was it intentional? I don't think that. You said

734
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.760
where all this took place? It
was just a national forest? Hang on,

735
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:59.719
I get you that. Yeah,
I'm kind of apache sit Grieves National

736
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:07.000
Forest. Where's that located? Uh? That says here it's east central Arizona.

737
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:12.320
Uh into the US state of New
Mexico. Okay. Uh. So

738
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:19.679
he was near Snowflake, Arizona when
this happened. So and another thing too,

739
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.239
is like if we were talking like
that, That's why I was wondering

740
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.400
if he had any like that was
sorry, I'm scattered to bring here.

741
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:35.760
Um, if he had any medical
problems prior right to this, because remember

742
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.920
we talked about missing four one one
the UFO connection. Remember the one guy

743
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:47.679
that he had scars all up and
down of his uh his lungs, all

744
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:52.639
right, and these were scar tissue
like this will never go away, Like

745
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:57.800
I can't remember what was scar tissue
from radiation burn? Is like once it

746
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.679
happens, it's that's there, and
they were gone. The next time they

747
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.760
did that, like they did X
rays and they saw that there was no

748
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:10.639
scar tissue on wild. Yeah,
that's that's wild. Like how how could

749
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:15.239
that have happened? And it's just
I don't know, And it's just like

750
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:20.280
the like the ladies, Like how
did they get radiation burned in the middle

751
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:24.840
of like the middle of nowhere right, Like there's like I'm not really familiar

752
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.840
with it. Like could there be
random pockets of radiation just happening out of

753
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.920
nowhere? It'd be worth looking into. I mean you would think though,

754
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:37.519
if that was a thing that was
happening out there, that radiation pockets might

755
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:42.159
happen. People would say something,
you know, yeah, and like that

756
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:46.000
would keep happening, probably wherever the
sources the first time. Yeah, there

757
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.920
would be multiple yeah, multiple people
when when they you know, for sometimes

758
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:57.480
when people have like tumors and their
lungs and stuff. Uh, sometimes they'll

759
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:02.199
use radiation to shrink the tumor so
that they can use chemotherapy to kill it

760
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:06.239
easier. I know this is I'm
dumbing this down big time. I know,

761
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:12.719
this is way more complex than that
but one of the major side effects

762
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:18.119
of radiation treatment is the burning sensation
in the lungs and the shortness of breath.

763
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:24.400
Yeah, you know, and it's
they have to use steroids to get

764
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:29.400
rid of the inflammation of the lungs, and it's what is it a quarter

765
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:32.480
of steroid, like you know what
I mean, like a super quartis you

766
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:36.400
know what I mean? Yeah?
And uh, I thought when I when

767
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:40.039
I you know, when I was
listening to the to his story and he

768
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:43.519
said that when he couldn't breathe when
he woke up in the ship, I

769
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.639
was like, damn, dude.
So they they straight up zapped his ass

770
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:51.840
with some kind of like focused radiation
because you got to think that some of

771
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:57.039
these people that get radiation burned on
their lungs, I mean, they're doing

772
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:03.559
multiple treatments and it builds up over
time, and this dude got that all

773
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.480
at once. So I mean,
regardless of if it was aliens or something

774
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:15.679
else, he definitely went through some
crazy shit and other people saw it.

775
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:20.079
So it's like that to me was
like, I mean, take aliens completely

776
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:25.760
out of this, you know what
I mean, Like, remove aliens as

777
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:30.119
a possibility, and you've got something
majorly fucked up that happened to this man,

778
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:33.280
you know what I mean? Like, I mean, yeah, one

779
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.880
other thing that it keeps biffloing me. Okay, these are supposed to be

780
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:45.400
superior beings. They've traveled light years, oh like from where they came from

781
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.039
to here to do whatever they want
to. Yeah, but there's always some

782
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:57.679
type of case of radiation. Why
like did they become more like they're so

783
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:03.719
vanced, but they still use some
type of nuclear style energy in their crafts?

784
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:10.800
And is is okay, what's the
only thing? Like, it's uranium

785
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:18.519
the only thing that really produces radiation. The biggest factory like nuclear radiation factory

786
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:26.719
ever is like all during the day
it's just floating there in the sky like

787
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:31.679
we get bombed by radiation like like
endlessly. But going back to your question,

788
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:36.800
I'd actually have to ask you like
a question in return. You said,

789
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:42.480
they say these these are advanced beings. Okay, who who said that?

790
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:45.559
I'm not saying that, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I'm

791
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.840
assuming like yeah, I'm assuming that, and other people are assuming that.

792
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:55.239
But wouldn't you that's actually a good
basis to go off of because we haven't

793
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.960
done this type of travel right,
like, there is no way. We

794
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.280
are far from even being able to
make it to Mars. Do you know

795
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:12.599
what the live like to be having
a man made or yeah, manmade uh

796
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:17.119
spacecraft that can travel light years away
or even like just so far and be

797
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:21.840
able to survive the trip. Yeah, like we are not even close to

798
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:27.800
it. So that's why I'm using
my bases off of much more advanced They

799
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:38.920
could possibly be about one hundred years
by our scale, a hundred years we

800
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:46.480
went from walking and riding carriages and
shit to fucking space shuttles, you know

801
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:53.280
what I mean. Now take that
same scalability. All right, let's just

802
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:57.519
measure in horsepower. Measure in horsepower
right there, dude, we can do

803
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:00.159
all the math with horsepower. At
this point, you could say that walking

804
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:05.719
you're like what a tenth of a
horse power? You know what I mean?

805
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:10.639
Like you're you're like a tenth.
And that's where we started. We

806
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:15.239
fucking walked everywhere, you know,
we it sticks and we walked. It's

807
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:19.600
like all the Lord of the Rings
movies. You just walked the whole way.

808
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:25.359
All right. We got horses and
we went up to one horse power.

809
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:30.119
So if you if you're using my
shit math here as a basis,

810
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:36.359
we went ten times the travel ability
just by learning how to ride a horse.

811
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:41.640
That's fair, all right. So
you take the horse and you say,

812
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:43.520
like, man, I wonder how
long it would take me to ride

813
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.479
a horse all the way to like, you know, I'm in I'm in

814
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:48.880
Russia. How how long would it
take me to ride all the way to

815
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:58.159
Africa if your horse lived? Probably
a long goddamn time. Or we hop

816
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:03.199
on a boat, catch some wind
and we sail. I don't know,

817
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:10.039
let's just use some shiit math here. Let's just say twenty five horses there.

818
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.560
I'm probably off here, but whatever, you know, we're scaling,

819
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:17.600
all right. So this sail on
a good windy day, it's giving us

820
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:21.600
twenty five horses of power. It's
probably not right, but for the sake

821
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:26.159
of argument, I'm looking it up. All right. Awesome, all right.

822
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:30.079
So then we get to the point
where we're, hey, let's we're

823
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.279
making steam engines. We don't even
need the fucking wind. So when the

824
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.760
wind dies and this guy over here
is just sitting out in the middle of

825
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:40.800
the fucking ocean, we're just put
putt put right past him. We might

826
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.399
not be as fast, but we're
steady on and we go to trains,

827
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:49.720
and from trains came a whole new
industry. Then we go to automobiles,

828
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:54.960
and then we go to fucking Tesla's, then we go to fucking spaceships and

829
01:09:55.079 --> 01:10:00.680
airplanes and jets. Well, because
I've got some really interesting stuff here,

830
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:04.239
well you got all right, so
I have a mathematical way to figure this

831
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:12.680
out. Now, all sales produce
point two horsepower per square foot. Holy

832
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.399
shit? Right, Okay, so
right, so if you're point two per

833
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:26.039
square right, if you had a
ten foot sale, you'd have twenty horsepower,

834
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.159
So your math is not far off, far off. Okay, that's

835
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.159
that's pretty good math. He knew
that the whole time. He just wanted

836
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:41.640
to make us. Actually guessing the
math here is gonna be a little a

837
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:44.760
little bit harder for me, Like
I'm not even gonna try it. But

838
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:57.720
your Space shuttle horsepower thirty seven million
horse power, and we could probably figure

839
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:00.199
out, Like I don't know if
this is this is a doable thing,

840
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:10.680
but let's see, how long did
it take us to go from walking for

841
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:17.960
the Space Shuttle. Well, I
don't think I don't think anybody's asked this

842
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:23.960
before, I thought maybe it would
pop up, you know what I mean,

843
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:34.960
Like when when did humans first start
riding horses? And then when was

844
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.079
the first man made rocket? That's
I feel like that would probably be your

845
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:46.000
first West duck domesticated horses six thousand
years ago, all right, six thousand

846
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:50.520
years, six thousand years and we
rode those all the way up to the

847
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:56.840
Industrial age, all right, So
if we can figure out because you got

848
01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:01.000
to think once we hit industrial the
Industrial age, everything sped up. Yeah,

849
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:05.119
we weren't just you know, hand
making everything anymore. Now we've got

850
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:10.720
machines to make machines, to make
machines to make machines. And now,

851
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.640
I mean, you look at this
man. Three D printers have become a

852
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.239
thing, you know what I mean. It is a matter of time,

853
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:21.039
and even as of right now,
I'm probably reporting this late, it's a

854
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:27.720
matter of time before people are able
to three D print or three D printers.

855
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.319
If you can three D print a
three D printer, you've almost solved

856
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:39.520
space travel because you no longer have
to send a crew out. You send

857
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:45.000
an AI or a program with three
D printers so it can harvest its own

858
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.159
ship and make the things it needs
to explore and send ship back to us.

859
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:54.840
The first man, a human,
first human to enter space was nineteen

860
01:12:54.960 --> 01:13:02.159
sixty one. Yeah, first human
inner space nineteen sixty one. And we

861
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:09.039
were still riding horses all the way
up till went to nineteen hundreds, nineteen

862
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:13.159
hundreds. I mean, if you
don't if you're discounting locomotives, you know,

863
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:19.399
but if you're looking at just like
the automobile and then and then the

864
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:29.520
first like first lunar landing was nineteen
sixty nine, so eight years later.

865
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:39.520
Yeah, that is handsome. Here, just look at the hundred year past

866
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.880
where it's sit right now, it's
twenty twenty three. Go to nineteen twenty

867
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:46.479
three, and look at the difference
in our technology in just one hundred years

868
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:54.239
and something that's we're only talking to
generations. Yeah, we're about to back

869
01:13:54.239 --> 01:14:00.239
then. They were about to have
an economic crisis in the next five years.

870
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:04.359
Yeah. All I'm saying is when
I said that they might be as

871
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:09.760
early as one hundred years ahead of
us, we had we had model T

872
01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:15.039
forwards in nineteen twenty three. Yeah, we have no idea like if they

873
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.880
we have red eye Hillcats right now. Yeah, we went fifteen horsepower to

874
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:24.720
eight hundred horsepower on tap right reliable. That's not even like the highest horse

875
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:29.079
power of vehicles out there. Yeah, that's just a readily available one right

876
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:36.279
your pockets. And we have recreational
vehicles that people build themselves with twice that

877
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:41.680
in horsepower, oh way more,
you know what I mean? Two thousand

878
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:45.279
horsepowers not uncalled for. Yeah,
that's what you're saying, Like your top

879
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:51.479
fuelder exters exactly. But when we
get above was it like two hundred miles

880
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:58.319
an hour, that's like when we
steering is out the fucking question. Yeah,

881
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:03.600
it's like going that as will just
agree. You're you're maintaining I mean,

882
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:10.640
you're not gonna sharp right yeah.
Yeah, Like why there's a he's

883
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:15.359
the vice president of our company and
his motorcycle goes well over two hundred miles

884
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.880
per hour, like two twenty three. He's a record holder. He races

885
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:23.760
every weekend and wins a lot.
You know, they say after two hundred

886
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.399
holes, especially on a bike,
they said, that's when you start to

887
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:30.800
you create like weightlessness in your bike, like you actually want to be strapped

888
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:33.279
to that thing. I mean you
think it'll fly off if you're if you're

889
01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:36.960
doing two hundred and twenty three miles
an hour on a motorcycle and you're in

890
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:43.880
that like lean forward position, and
you had the unfortunate event of the front

891
01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:46.960
of your shield on your helmet opening
up and you open your mouth, your

892
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:56.520
asshole would look like a parachute right
behind you. You know. Yeah,

893
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:59.319
all I was getting at with all
this was just that, Yeah, we

894
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:04.439
have no idea when they entered their
industrial age, because you could we could

895
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:08.279
say like, oh god, this
species has been out there for tens of

896
01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:13.720
millions of years. That's that's fine. How long have they been making good

897
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:17.119
shit? Though? Right? You
know that? Were they making computers that

898
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.680
whole time? Or were they kind
of doing it like us? Were they

899
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:25.560
kind of just walking around and even
stuff with six smelling their finger? And

900
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.399
even then, let's let's back up
on this. When I hear this happened

901
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.439
in nineteen seventy five, how much
has changed since nineteen seventy five for US?

902
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:35.880
Yeah, nineteen seventy five Corvette put
out one hundred and twenty three horsepower.

903
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:42.720
You know, right, we have
no idea if if they're a work

904
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:45.079
in progress the same as US people. I've heard the argument where people say,

905
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.640
do you remember when it used to
be flying saucers? Yeah, now

906
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:53.159
it's I think I've made it.
I've made a lot on the show.

907
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:56.479
Yeah, is that there you go? The what we see in the sky

908
01:16:56.720 --> 01:17:01.600
changes over time. It's like Bigfoot
got bigger, Bift got bigger. Yeah,

909
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:06.640
we got bigger. The ships change
shape, and in one case you

910
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:11.560
could say like Bigfoot getting bigger.
I feel like embellishments, you know what

911
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.880
I mean. If somebody saw something, it might have freaked him out and

912
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:18.239
it might have looked like the fucker
was nine feet tall. But in this

913
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:25.319
we're dealing with possibly a technological race, right, And if it's a techno

914
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:31.399
technologically inclined race that's actively exploring,
their technology is going to get better and

915
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:35.039
better just like ours. They're not
just gonna be like, hey we got

916
01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:39.960
to this man, let's just fly
the US. But I feel like another

917
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:45.479
thing too, is like we we
use a lot of our technology for entertainment

918
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:49.479
too, and I feel like it
like it's almost sometimes they will start out

919
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:58.399
as entertainment and then it will it
will seep into like like military style stuff

920
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:04.079
too. But I will but that
does depend because like tablets were like probably

921
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:09.800
in the like nineties and the two
like the early two thousands before we even

922
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:13.359
saw them. Yeah, I mean, and we can we can thank NASA

923
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:18.840
for battery technology. You know,
the entire reason cordless drills exist is because

924
01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:23.279
of NASSA. Yeah, yeah,
they had the first ones. I believe

925
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:28.279
they're Panasonic too. But battery technology
is what limits a lot of what we

926
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:32.119
do, and it's grown in the
last ten years. But what I was

927
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:39.079
like trying to say there was we
use a lot of ours for technology,

928
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:44.319
and that that like, well,
entertainment. What doesn't say that these actually

929
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.119
they strive for that's all their money
goes to. It's not goes to anything

930
01:18:49.239 --> 01:19:00.640
really else other than leaving their planets
studying the universe. What if what if

931
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:05.039
we're looking at this all wrong?
We probably are, well I know,

932
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:13.359
I am. What if it is
entertainment. What if this you know,

933
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:19.920
this uh, this thing that happened
to Travis wasn't a research vessel. What

934
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:29.640
if it was like, you know, a cruise ship. Yeah, we

935
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:33.760
have no idea, I mean,
yeah, or two teenagers stole Dad's car

936
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:39.560
or two teenagers stole Dad's car.
If if that's the case, then it

937
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:45.359
does explain why the ships have changed. Yeah, because not all ships would

938
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:48.119
be the same. It's why that, like a police car doesn't look like

939
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:51.760
my car sitting outside, right,
you know what I mean, Like,

940
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:58.039
yeah, I'm I don't walk outside
and hopping my you know, my maserati.

941
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:00.840
Yeah, we're not basically just my
Chevy crews for the most part.

942
01:20:00.840 --> 01:20:04.279
We're not driving deuce and a halfs
and houmvies to work either, you know.

943
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:08.199
Yeah, yeah, you know.
So there's that, and then there's

944
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:15.479
the other possibility that this isn't alien
to the planet at all. There's the

945
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:19.560
possibility that this is an in house
thing. And maybe that's why there was

946
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:24.640
such a smear campaign against it.
That I thought of that, I actually

947
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.000
thought of something similar to that.
Well, maybe they were testing something,

948
01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.399
you know, maybe it wasn't maybe
it wasn't a spaceship. Maybe it was

949
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:34.760
some of the very first silent helicopters. Yeah, I did, uh,

950
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:39.560
you know. A while back up
buddy of mine had it. He actually

951
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:44.159
had a really insightful thing because I
was saying, like, yeah, we

952
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.000
never know, it could be the
government. It could be the government testing

953
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:50.520
fucking top secret advanced stuff. And
he goes he said, you know,

954
01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:55.840
I'm on board with that idea because
it's reasonable, but I can't help but

955
01:20:55.960 --> 01:21:01.920
wonder where they fucking got the idea. I mean, he's like if they

956
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:06.039
were, like if they found something
and they're like, hey, you know,

957
01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:11.119
let's just kind of let's just nix
that, but let's figure that out

958
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:17.239
so we can use it. I
mean that seems a little alien X marketa.

959
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:21.560
You know, yeah, because we
invent stuff all the time without having

960
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:29.039
it being inspired by some outer worldly
thing, you know, I mean we

961
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:31.079
do it. The three of us
do it. You know, we invent

962
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:35.760
sounds right to go together. You
know, we may be you know,

963
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:42.039
we may have originally been inspired by
other other bands and other musicians, but

964
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.239
there's stuff that we make. This
sounds like nobody else, right, you

965
01:21:46.279 --> 01:21:50.359
know. So do you think it's
far fetched to think that if they found

966
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:55.960
a ship that they wouldn't try to
backwards engineer it. No. I absolutely

967
01:21:55.960 --> 01:22:00.119
believe they would in a heartbeat and
absolute heartbeat. But I also believe that

968
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:03.079
Henry Ford didn't find a model T
in the woods. You know. Shit,

969
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:06.439
Yeah, so you know there's there's
that, so like, you know,

970
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:09.560
well, I mean, he wasn't
the first automaker. But you know,

971
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:13.119
still like whoever, whoever, what
was it? Was it Mercedes,

972
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:17.439
right, Diamelard Benzo. Wasn't it
the very first automobile? I can't remember

973
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.840
one of the first somebody thought of
this ship, somebody thought of it.

974
01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:26.279
Yeah, somebody decided horses aren't the
way to go. We gotta go somewhere

975
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:29.359
else with this, you know.
Yeah, it comes from something, but

976
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:33.680
it doesn't necessarily come from kind of
like when they it's like my whole problem

977
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:38.319
when they when they were talking about
Roswell, They're like, oh, we

978
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:42.479
recovered a spacecraft, you know,
And I'm like they were like, oh,

979
01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.600
it's a crash landed spacecraft. And
I'm like, kind of seems like

980
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:48.279
kind of a shitty ship if it
crash landed here, you know what I

981
01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:53.319
mean, Like, what the hell
were what was going on on that thing?

982
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:58.560
You know? But I've always wondered
my myself, like, okay,

983
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:02.920
advancement and technology and stuff like,
okay, think of like the person that

984
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:10.239
invented the the internal combustion engine,
like just thinking about that, like telling

985
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.279
that to somebody, like pitching the
idea. Okay, I think that we

986
01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:17.399
could take the same premise of our
steam powered engines. Yeah, but we

987
01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:24.439
have many explosions in different compartments.
That pushes this rod that goes up and

988
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:28.119
down like pushes the cylinder Like this
thing goes down and it pushes it and

989
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:31.479
puts like like it spends this chaff
that goes out to here. It's like,

990
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:35.720
how do you get to that that? I know that there's a lot

991
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:39.720
of R and D that goes into
something and then thinks of it. But

992
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:45.600
like how fast it came out of
Like it hadn't like it wasn't like specially

993
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:49.079
it had its own problems. But
that's what I'm saying. It's like how

994
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:55.600
could you what? Person just sat
there? It's like this, holy crap,

995
01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:00.279
I yes, this is what I
need to make And how do you

996
01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:03.840
even? Like where do you go? Where do you start? It's crazy

997
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:10.840
like but that's why I feel like
a lot of these technologies today there's not

998
01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:15.720
that really creative like vision anymore.
It seems like it's kind of rehashed.

999
01:24:16.119 --> 01:24:24.920
Like okay, what is something that
is like everywhere now? Security cameras like

1000
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:30.079
like doorbell like the ring. Yeah, that's yeah. He took two technologies,

1001
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:35.720
a wireless camera and a doorbell and
put him together like that's cool,

1002
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:43.279
it's innovative, but he's rehashing old
technology and I feel like that's I feel

1003
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:45.399
like, but I feel like that's
the same thing. Like we haven't really

1004
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:50.119
I don't feel like we have thought
of anything new. Like that engine that

1005
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:55.720
you were talking about last episode,
that's new, that's something fucking new.

1006
01:24:56.039 --> 01:25:00.119
Actually had to follow up about that
for you guys. Turns out the NASA

1007
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:08.279
and DARPA are going to be testing
a nuclear engine that's specifically for travel to

1008
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:13.319
Marsh. Yeah. It's like I
think, I want to say, this

1009
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:17.000
is the first nuclear engine that they're
going to actually build for space travel.

1010
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.600
It's pretty wild. It is,
well, I can't imagine what the horsepower

1011
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:30.319
on that thing is going to be
space horses And wait until like, yeah,

1012
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:35.359
like a hundred years later, freaking
rat rodders are going to start putting

1013
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:41.119
those nuclear engines in their fucking cars
somehow, I want to say, Like

1014
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:45.439
the automotive industry, those fuckers are
very innovative. They they're like, dude,

1015
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:48.800
I want okay, I need I
don't need this. I don't need

1016
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:54.479
this so much weight. I need
to go fast. It says here that

1017
01:25:55.039 --> 01:26:00.600
DARPA is going to be building this
as a thermal nuclear rocket, and it's

1018
01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:05.560
gonna allow for faster transit times between
Earth and Mars and the Moon and Mars.

1019
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:11.960
Isn't it like six months right now? Like that was the but we

1020
01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.600
actually have to like it's assist a
six months interval, Yeah, from Earth

1021
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:20.199
to Mars because it's the alignment.
Wait till they slap this bad boy on

1022
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:23.720
there. They'd be like, you
want to go to Mars. We get

1023
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:33.800
you here in fifteen minutes. But
yeah, I don't know, but uh,

1024
01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:38.640
you're like your tuna fish Sam,
which is flying behind you. Just

1025
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:43.359
wait till like their CDL courses and
stuff for like you know, truck driving

1026
01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:45.880
back and forth to Mars and you're
like, hey, I can't check my

1027
01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:56.720
mirrors. Man, why this the
fucking G force? Like it would suck

1028
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:06.800
a swift super spaceship I've put out
on the moon, a Swift. Yeah,

1029
01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:11.199
guys, it's a We got an
hour and twenty something into this one.

1030
01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:15.560
I feel like I feel like we
went the mother of all tangents and

1031
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:21.680
I had another part of this.
Sorry, that's whatever. I just wanted

1032
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:26.039
to get your guys reactions. I
love, like love these actual ones that

1033
01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:30.439
it creates like thought process like you, yeah, like the reason behind the

1034
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:34.239
whole whole thing. So no,
what, I'm just gonna shut up because

1035
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:36.960
if I start talking, I'm just
going to keep going. We're gonna get

1036
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.640
into a whole thing about space horses. It's it's kind of like when I

1037
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:47.399
started about the whole space horse uh
the time thing last episode. Gibbs called

1038
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:54.520
me out on it. Yeah,
it's like, don't do that an episode.

1039
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:57.560
No, we don't do that.
No, I do have to give

1040
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.600
myself a reaction to I think I
did the math wrong on your sale.

1041
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:04.439
I think it's actually two horsepower,
not twenty? Is it too? Yeah?

1042
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:11.079
This uh this like post COVID muddy
brain shit. Yeah, I'm not

1043
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:14.279
used to this. Like I'm usually
really good at math, and I've been

1044
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:17.960
making a lot of mathematical errors recently. I don't know, I don't know

1045
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.239
what's going on with that, but
yeah, I believe it. I believe

1046
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:23.800
I did the math wrong on that
because how and to help if it's point

1047
01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:28.000
two horse per se, how could
the number be bigger than the square foot

1048
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:33.039
every every ten feet would be use
I'm redacting myself. Yeah, it's still

1049
01:28:33.079 --> 01:28:35.680
I mean it still works with the
scaling anyway, you know what I mean?

1050
01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.520
Yeah, I can live with it. Every ten foot a sales,

1051
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:43.359
two horse power. There you go. So but if you have some big

1052
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.920
ship with tons of sales, I
mean yeah, you could get twenty you

1053
01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:53.039
could get twenty horse yep, there
you go. All right, Well,

1054
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:57.560
you guys out there, take care
of each other, you know, don't.

1055
01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:59.880
Uh oh, he's got a question. No no, no, no,

1056
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:02.199
I no no, I'm just wanting
to kill this. It was just

1057
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:05.119
something about the sales. But just
go ahead. What about the sales?

1058
01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:09.319
I mean, I just wanted to
know. Is it like if you have

1059
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:14.319
multiple sales, does that up with
it? Yes, that's the square footage

1060
01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:17.119
of each sale. Yes, so
if you had one hundred square foot of

1061
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:20.359
sale, which is not hard to
do, A four by twelve sheet is

1062
01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:25.960
forty eight square foot, you know, so if you have one hundred square

1063
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:30.560
foot of sale, you have a
twenty horsepower. That's okay, that's nice.

1064
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:35.880
Okay, yea end it because I
feel like I just keep talking.

1065
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:40.479
I'm sorry. Sorry, all right, I'm gonna tell you guys by before

1066
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:43.640
Tyler thinks it's anything else, take
care of each other. We'll see on

1067
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:54.840
the next one. Wow, sail
you guys. Joke, yeah, joke.

1068
01:29:55.159 --> 01:30:00.439
I had to myself you were