S127: Wendigo, Holes to hell, Quicksand and Honeymead with Josh Gibbs - continued.

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something that would be in the context of what you described as being a great silver looking, upright bossy of a creature dragging a deer out of that cave, going up the hill road. I got a question for him. He says, do you believe in demons? And it takes one big step and vanishes. I'm like, oh, my God, that was a big monster. Look at these pictures of this white tree stuck in seven foot three, eight foot tall. And this bear was standing on his high legs, and he was running like I made this was no fair. Now, when it stood up, that's when I knew it was a dog.

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Like to kind of give some context, if you can, these Katinas. Katinas? Yeah, katina. Are they part human? Again, from what I understand, I thought it was like an animal spirit. A kitchen is like a forest spirit or an animal spirit. It's definitely a spirit. It's something that's I guess do you think that they could talk? I imagine I would honestly ask the listeners, like, hey, if anybody wants to give us more details, send it in. I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but mocking, bird, parrots, I mean, these are birds. Birds, they can mimic and talk. Just trying to protect the forest. What it's like? It's keen to I really don't know. Like I said, there's stuff that's happened there that would blow your mind. It's amazing. It's stuff where you literally have to sit there for a little bit and go, god, man, did that happen. Wow, it's weird. Another thing too is are these considered in Native American mythology? That's their description of them, yeah. Is it considered a vengeful spirit or aggressive, at least if crossed. Okay, so when I told my grandmother about the scream and I told her the story of Howard, she literally said, it's a Katrina, don't mess with it. And if it's after him, he did something. And then when I brought up I brought up wendigo to her, she didn't even want to talk about it. She's like, I'm not going to sit here and discuss when to go with you. We're not going there. That was a four letter word. It was

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literally you bring up wendigo to a Native American, you can talk sasquatch all day. They'll laugh at you because it's old news, right? It ain't nothing new to them. You bring up wendigo to them, that is not no joke. That's something you just don't mess with. And like I said, that one day I got online and I started looking for stories, like Encounters, a wendigo. I listened to about four or five, and then it just dawned on me. I'm like, wait a minute. You don't survive a wendigo encounter. If you see a windigo, it's because you've been picked, right? Your ass is grass after that. So I instantly was like, okay, I guess I'm done with these. And I literally right off of that one, I was like, I guess that's kind of a dead end. I don't want to investigate that because you don't want it investigating you. But I don't know. I'm just like saying because hunting seemed like a natural thing. Especially what's about that land that that spirit is protecting? If that's what it could be. Or it could be something totally different. I don't know. I'm just trying to speculate on what it could be. Why would be upset? Why is it upset? At first, you could make the argument, like how you were saying the whole screen story. Yeah. Your grandmother said that it was a kitchen after him. She said it was probably a katina. It's a spirit. Why did it say anything to that person? And why did it say to you? You said your distant cousin, too. Yeah, I don't know. I really don't. Honestly, I found it strange. It was a little bit hair raising. Yeah, definitely. But I literally was like I did one of those where I was like, I'm not going to let that bother me right now. It's funny, too, because I didn't even remember to think of it until you mentioned that happening to the other guy. How old were you when your experience happened? I think I was right around 21. 21. See, that explains a lot, too. Something like that. So you're bulletproof when you're 21. You know what I mean? Like, you could take something that this is an experience. Like, this thing could possibly kill me. I'm 21. There's a definite difference in mentality in your teens and early 20s than there is, like, say, our age going into that night. I can definitely confirm that. Yeah, that's how I felt like the start of that night. Even as the story was being told and consistently told. People have mentioned this to me. I don't remember who said it. I think actually it was you that said it to me. Tyler goes, I didn't have the experience, but I've heard you tell it. And every time you tell it, it's word for word. He's like, it's always consistent. You never change anything about the story or whatever. Nothing ever slips. He's like, I know that you experience something because you can tell it's locked in. And I started thinking about that, you know what I mean? Like, whatever about it. And that's the case. It's because at the beginning of the night, I went into it, as you say, bulletproof. But all that shit went out the window when I heard that scream. When that scream happened, I was no longer bulletproof. I felt the feeling of mortality just like that. I can feel it now, telling you, like, I can literally feel what I felt then. It's weird to say that 20 something years removed. I can still feel what I felt that night. Right. If I heard it again, I don't think I'd handle it any better than I did last time. Fair enough. I feel like because the unknown is still there, the unknown part of it is still there. And there's also the part of my brain that always expects to hear it. Right. And that unfortunately, I think is what Steve Isdal calls the club of no return. It's when that happens. You can't put your thumb on it. You don't know what the hell it was, what happened. All you know is that part of you is always on edge that it's going to happen again. And that part sucks ass. Right? It really does. Because we don't know, especially because you even said this you don't know what it was. We never saw it. We can't definitively say what type of cryptid that could have been that made that sound. But a lot of people have are on so many sides of the fence on Sasquatch or any of the all the other cryptids. Some of them say that Sasquatch is very, I guess, nonviolent. It's more territorial. It'll try to get you out of its area but it won't hurt you. Same for like dog man. But some people say it will attack. I know there was a couple of things I've heard where they actually tack Sasquatch. I've heard that too. It's kind of hard. So you're always looking over your shoulder. You don't know who to it's not even about trust anymore. It's about lack of information because we don't have it. There's no consistency. Yeah, there's no consistency. I've got consistency with Sasquatch. I can admit that at this point in the juncture I've got about 80% consistencies and only about 20% wiggle room where I'm like, yeah, I don't know about that one. So would you say if like one day we actually came across a full fledged sighting? It's like almost touching. Would you feel comfortable with that there? You don't think it would be like knowing yeah. Are you on the side of them being kind of somewhat docile? My thought is that we fear the unknown. Right? Yeah. So I don't feel like we need to interfere with their life if they are a people. I feel that there should be some respect and some dignity there. I just would like to know the boundaries a little bit. Okay. You're there and I'm here. Where do you want me to not be? And I'll leave that to you. I don't need to go and study you. I don't need to go and mess with you. I don't need to take pictures of you anymore. I now know that you're there and I don't need to videotape you anymore. Where do I need to be to not be interfering with your life? Now that's all I'm looking for. I don't want to be a guy who writes the book about this. Honestly, I have no ambition beyond what I'm saying right now. Just want to know for sure. Just want to know so I know what the scream meant. For all I know, the scream was saying, hey, guys, can I have one of those beers? But I don't know, to me, it sounded like I'm literally going to eat you. What? Didn't really mean, because you guys actually grabbed I did go back and get the cooler. Yeah. So you basically told him if that was true, you told him to go fuck himself. It's like, no, you can't be here. I don't know. I don't have the info in front of me. I want to know. I know if I'm going to go into a national forest. Okay, well, we've got a little bit of a problem, folks, in the national forest of this country, the little problem is that apparently they are the new bermuda triangles. People are going in there with big groups of other people and vanishing into thin air. That's a problem. That's an issue. That's a queeny dink we need to work on. I think. So I need to know, do you not want me to go into that forest? Because I can go to the zoo or the park instead. I can change my plans. There's no need to snatch me, right? I don't care if you're interdimensional. I don't care if you're living in a cave or burrowing underground. I don't care. It doesn't matter. I just need to know if I shouldn't take grandma to that park, right? That's all I want to know. If that's the case, just let me know, and I'll just scurry my ass right down, and I'll buy a roof or float, and I'll just go my ass home, you know what I mean? I'm not going to make an issue of it. I'm just going to let it be. The problem is that we just don't know. We've got hundreds of years of pass down native american history for the most part in this country. So great at listening to the native americans, you know, we're real good at that. And the native americans literally, literally said, they're a tribe. We don't mess with them. We stay out of their areas. They stay out of ours. We just don't mix with them. If you hear whistling or sounds in the forest, you don't go out there. They're good with it. They're like, yeah, we just don't mess with them. Nothing bad happens. We don't go screwing with them. You don't go messing with sasquatch. You know what I mean? Right. Lewis and clark literally have a sasquatch encounter in their journals. They saw them. That's one of the earliest ones that we have, where we saw them and go, wow, what was the one I heard of? Literally, they were like, what was the wagon trail thing? You know what I mean? The old game, you know, what I'm talking about. Oh, organ trail. Organ trail. The old wagoners, they used to go out and they'd go west in a big wagon train, right? And they had a story of what they called the stick people. They were called the stick people because they were large, hairy men and females, and they were throwing sticks at the wagons. So guess what? They didn't go that way anymore. They were like, hey, we could pass through the mountain right here. It's quicker. But the stick people are up there, so we're just going to go down and around. It'll take us an extra day, but I don't think they want us up there. Back then, it was just easier. It was literally easier to say, like, josh, if you're going that way, go down by the river instead, because that's where the sasquatch is, man. They'll just mess up your wagon. Okay, man, that's a nice wagon, man. I know. You just got it, man. And they'll scratch that thing all to hell. He would love you for that, because he would be like, wagon would be all right. He's like, you're a good friend, and you want to change a wagon wheel with sasquatches throwing shit at you, right? That just sucks. I'm saying, like, back then, this shit was literally it was a part of life. It was like, okay, we have these wild men. We have this wild tribe. The native americans knew it. The old mountain men knew it. The cowboys knew it. The frontiersmen, they knew it. Now we just don't now we're like, there's no way. Mountain lions got all, like, 7000 of those people who disappeared in the last few years from the national parks. It was mountain lions, folks. We have the hungriest mountain lions in the whole world. We must have millions of them because people are going missing at an alarming rate. There's a whole page dedicated to that. Isn't it like a website? Yeah, missing four. One one person out there said, well, people are falling into holes. Okay, look, maybe we need a national park somewhere different. This place is full of holes. Speaking of holes, this is the terrible thing that's actually a thing, the holes to hell or whatever. Yeah, like in hawaii and stuff, because they're called lava tubes. That sucks. They say that sounds terrible. It's not a place to picnic. No, I can't remember how they said it happens. Like, the lava starts to form basically these tubes underground. Like, underground, they are, like, perfect, because I guess the outside will start to cross over, and then once they get their encased, it just basically makes this tube, and they can flow anywhere around, basically wherever it erupted. That's horrible. I feel like I'm getting a lot of the science wrong with this, but somebody will chime in. But there are lava tubes that basically hitting caverns, and over time, like, foliage and stuff will start to grow over these holes. So basically you'll be mowing your lawn not knowing. Oh, my God. Because there was actually a video I saw. Guy said he was gone for months from his house. And they said that the neighbor saw him, just saw his back 40. It's like, oh, man, it's overgrown. So he's out there. He's doing the old way. Machete fell in a lava hole, didn't he? Dude, literally, because I guess his family could not find what happened to him. He just got back home from whatever he was doing. And then next, you know, they said that cops went in. No one was in the house. They said they started to see a hole in gardening tools right next to it. And they literally the guy started to walk and got to the edge and it started to crumble. And finally a bigger, like a whole hole opened up and there he was, about 20ft down. Oh, my God. So you just solved the missing four one one is what you're telling me. Well, I don't know. National forests are full of lava holes. I don't know. I'm just kidding around. But seriously, that's scary as hell. That's terrifying. That's worse than a sinkhole. That is. What type of volcanoes that have erupted around here in the last you think too is like we're from the quicksand terrifies us. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Quicksand is and it's all because of the never ending story. I mean, being honest, that's a lot of it. I never understood the term quicksand because it's not quick. It's not, but man, no, that's what it wants you to think. From the 80s, we were absolutely mortified of quicksand and setting ourselves on fire. Quicksand was everywhere. When you were out playing, quicksand was going to be there somewhere. You had to be vigilant at all times. Keep your eyes peeled. I've never seen any quicksand, not even once. We got lucky. I've never seen quicksand. We just got lucky, man. Yeah, somebody out there did, right? We were one of the lucky few with the national parks, I think.

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Is this the mead talking? This mead is wonderful. Josh, I'm going to take you up on another. Absolutely. Take your pick. Okay. It's really hard to pick between the two folks. I just want you to know that

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one of the old hob again, sorry. Oh, you're good? Well, yeah. With these national parks, there's definitely an underlying thing there because not everyone's falling in a hole or being hit by being attacked by a bobcat or mountain lion. So I feel like that's a given. You can't just say, like, hey, all these people fell down a hole, got attacked by a mountain lion, and then the leftovers was eaten by a bobcat or something of that nature. Very dramatic event. And then a meteor hit them, then they fell down a lava two. Here's something I would like to hold missing four one one in the national parks. You guys are my house. I mean, I've got 1 bar of service right now. Right? What about you guys? I'm on crockett, so I always have 1 bar. It's pretty much business as usual. I got three. You got three bars? You're doing excellent. I bet you all three of us could pull up our GPS's with 1 bar and make it work. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, you would. Think you follow me on this. Where I'm going with this, I would understand the missing four one one issue if it was 40 years ago, right? Map encompass times, but you can literally buy GPS devices that work off satellites for the forest where there's no cell reception. Yeah, that's absolutely true. Like, how are you getting lost and disappearing unless you're just not going prepared? Like assuming that it's like a rainbow movie and you're just going to walk and walk, find a river and walk and you're going to find your way out. Because I do get that there's a lot of arrogant people that think they could handle the forest, but even the American forest system is super dangerous for people that don't know what they're doing just because of exposure. One of the missing four one one, the last one I watched was called missing four one one. The hunted or was it hunted or hunters? I can't remember. But on that one, there's one guy who the hunted. The hunt. The hunt. It might be the hunt. I think it's Phil Hunt. But one guy on there, he went by horseback with two other buddies up into the mountains. They were going to go hunting and something had happened. He had to go and get his spare clothes. He had a cash up, like up a trail to the left. He said that he was going to walk it, and it would take him about half a day to get up there, get his stuff, and come back. He never showed back up. All right. He was supposed to check in with them every so often, and he just never did. And they said what was weird about it was that he was the guy that basically showed them where everything was. He could walk the whole thing. The dude was like he was a living map of this mountain range. Right. Not only did he not go to the cash, but he went the opposite direction, apparently stopped. His weapon was nice and neat laying on the ground next to his clothes. And then months and months later, a farmer all the way. Like, I think it was I want to say it was the north side or something like that. It was the other side of the mountain. Found his backpack nice and neat, sitting next to a tree on his property. And then a skull was found on the other side of the mountain. Wow. And when I you know, you're watching this and you're hearing this and it's like, okay, was any of this embellished. And so I get online. I start digging myself. No. It's pretty fact for fact, right? And you can't help but think, like, okay, what the hell happened? What the hell happened to this guy? In almost every one of these stories, not all, but most of them, there's some kind of weird weather system thing that happens either during or right after. It's always consistent. It starts off normal. A couple of days go by, things are weird. Then the weather system thing happens. Some kind of intense weather change. Right. So I don't understand it. It baffles me. I want to understand it. I want to know more. I wish I could just sit there and look through the evidence just laid out on a table, but it's weird, and it keeps happening. It just keeps happening. And then there's the sound thing. Several of the people that have been with other people that disappeared described hearing metallic clank sounds. Loud clank. And they hear it, and they don't know what it is, and their person is gone. Just gone. No trace. One old timer was he went missing. He was with, like, seven other people. They didn't even find his gun. They didn't find anything. He vanished. What the hell's going on out there? It's scary. There was one. I think it was same people, I think it was or no, I think what's his name? Survivor man. He came back, and he kind of went back over it. Yeah. He retraced the footsteps. A child? Yeah, a child. But the child miles miles away from his house. Yeah. How old do you think? Like three? He was real little. Like, he's still alive, too, the child? He he's an old man now, but he's still alive. Yeah. And they found him like, they said that they found him laying down the dirt, motionless. And then they finally came to him, and they thought the father thought he was dead. He thought the worst. He thought he was dead. Something got him and come over. He's just hide. Yeah. He said something carried him. Yeah, something carried didn't he say it was Harry, too? Okay. I think I've heard some of the story, and Survivor Man went back over the trails and stuff and like this to kind of clarify and let people know. It was tough for him to track. He was trying to do it. It was tough for him. And this was a child. You got to understand, even back then I'm not going to say anything there's tough motherfuckers back then, sure. But this is a child, though. Most of the time they'll walk for a while, and then they'll be like, I'm tuckered out. I want a nap halfway through the zoo. You're carrying your kids, let alone miles of the wilderness. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Something had to carry this. And you can't say it was some type of predator, like a bobcat or something. Like that because it would have totally. And that's not the only story of something like that either. Isn't there another story about a six year old boy that was lost in the woods and they found him sitting on the side of the road? The sheriff did, like 5 miles from his house, and he was like, the Harry man, got me here. Yeah, there was another one, too, from the missing four. One one where a child was missing. And they got to a point where they had the search dogs. It was cool because it was cool, but I can't help but it was kind of chilling to hear it. One of the ladies who was in the search, she had the search hound, said that all the dogs stopped at this one area. There was a real bad fog, and the dogs literally would not go any further. They all stopped and they wouldn't move. They were tails between their legs. They would not go any further. And she said that they were all freaked out because you know what I mean? It's like, dude, you know how this is. You got a dog. You're like, Dude, if he's scared yeah. What the hell is out there? My dog is kind of a big sissy. Just saying if your dog comes in and he's terrified of something shaking and tail between his legs, it's going to make you out here. It gets real dark. Sure. Sometimes we'll get halfway up the driveway with him and he'll stop and just stare into the distance. And then he's ready to come back to the house. Right. And he don't want to go any further. Yeah. And it's like, okay, man. He's trusting his gut. He's like, something's out there. I don't want to mess with it. Right. But then the child comes walking out of the fog naked, and that was that. That was it. And they don't understand it. When the child came walking out of the fog, it freaked him out just as bad. I would imagine so. Yeah, because it was like, what are we seeing here? It's like the cow looking in the window at you. It's not what you're expecting. Yeah. An initial shock is enough to make you lose sight of what reality is. Yeah, that's the thing, is when you're in a situation like that, how much are you actually absorbing? What did you miss? What's in your peripheral you didn't see because you were so focused on the thing that freaked you out. Right? Yeah. I don't know. And how much of it do you forget? Probably a lot because, you know, like, after I did the initial podcast, when it went on Facebook and I shared it so that people could watch it, there were people and my friends that were reminding me of stuff that we witnessed together that I had just forgotten. I was like, I didn't even oh, my God, I totally forgot this even happened. You know, this was 28 years ago. Oh, yeah. But you and I both grew up on farms. Yep. Mine was over here, and the lights in the skies are what got me. Yeah. So they reminded me of stories of being out there in the middle of the pasture. It was 50 acre hayfield, seven of us standing out there, and one of us looked up and seen a light hovering over and shooting off into the distance. Yeah. Now, keep in mind, my place that I grew up on was in a direct flight path from somewhere down south to Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Right. Because every time they would do the air show at Wright Pat, I remember being a little kid obsessed with World War II planes. I'd take a blanket or something and go out when I knew that they were going to fly through, I'd go out there and lay out there in the hay field and watch all these old planes fly over. It was amazing. So there was a lot of planes that flew over my place and the lights always happened at night. Right. But I guess I just kind of put some of out of memory, like sitting out there and seeing lights hover and then shoot off. And nothing was ever as close as, like the video that I sent you guys. Nothing was ever down that low. I can remember sitting I was sitting out in the front yard of my parents house when I was younger with an old girlfriend. And we were just laying in the grass looking up and we saw this green light literally go across the sky and turn around and then U turn and go back the other way. Yeah, and my light was green too, actually. Yeah, we were standing out there in the middle of the field, and the field was surrounded by woods, so it wasn't like a field and then roads and houses. It was our 100 acre farm, but it up to this 200 acre farm. But it up to this 400 acre farm. There was nothing out there. Absolutely nothing. You could shoot guns at 02:00 in the morning and nobody would even know you were out there because it was far enough away in the green light, came across and just kind of hovered in the middle over the field, over us. Now, it was thousands of feet up. It wasn't down low, like it wasn't glowing on us or anything like that, but it was way up there and just shot off into the distance. No plane stops. They don't turn. It was weird, but even at the time me and her were laying there, we even made the joke like UFO. Thinking back later, it was like that was kind of weird, though. I mean, the thing did do a Uturn. That's kind of strange, right? And that's exactly what it was for us at the time. It's like not even thinking. About what it actually was, right? It was always a UFO. We just made the joke. It's aliens are coming. Aliens. They don't want us. We're down here being dumb. Drink a beer in the field. Yeah, I don't know. Earlier you mentioned the ladies being abducted and radiated and all that UFO abduction, and you were saying, like, I don't know what the whole point of all that was or whatever. Actually, earlier this week I was thinking about that. The whole thing that started was I saw an ad come across my feed where you could basically buy it was like a bracelet or something for someone you love. And it had a little number on it. And you go on this website and you type it in and it was a tag for a sea turtle and it would show you where the turtle is in the ocean, so you would give that to somebody. And I started thinking about that and there's people who talked about getting taken, experimented on, even implants, and I started thinking like, well, shit, they're doing the same thing that we do to animals. We're trying to study. You know what I mean? They're tagging us, right? They're pro fishermen. Think about it. I think I figured this out. It's an intergalactic tournament. They've got their sponsors, they show up on Earth, they go fishing. Whoever bags the most impressive one wins the tournament. And that's why the ships are just like fast boats. Yeah, the fastest one wins. The ones that don't come back while those were the trophies, weren't they? Those got mounted. They got mounted. So think about that for a second, folks. What if it's all just a big bass tournament and we're the fish? I don't know. I don't think I'm qualified to make opinions about UFOs. I think I just disqualified. Would you think that they would do the same thing? The story you told me, you actually went to an actual tournament with fish in your well, I didn't have any fish in my

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wells. The guy had to check your live wells before the tournament starts and he opens up all of the live wells and they're all stuffed with ice and beers, and he's like, man, you're not very optimistic, are you? I was like, Man, I mean, it's only $20 to enter a tournament. I mean, I'm only here for fun anyway, so whatever. It's a good one. By the end of the night, I did not have any fish, but I did have a couple cleaned out live walls. They had some ice in them still, but that was it. But other than that, do you really believe I know you probably don't believe that, but I don't think do you have any other speculation on why they would radiate you? Look, man, I feel like the show is going to move into those topics and I'm totally good with it, but I feel like at this point I'm so invested. I'm probably going to be, like, the resident bigfoot guy. I've got a lot of time invested in this big asshole. And I really feel like most of my UFO ideas are kind of dumb, like the bass tournament idea. But, hey, look at my consistency. They take people, they tag them, they throw them back. Imagine that's. Tracking these sharks, tracking sea turtles. Imagine you're a bass, okay? You're in a lake. Check this out. Okay? Just I know this is going to be a stretch. I realize that going in. I know I'm asking a lot here. You're a bass. You're swimming around or well, if you want to get technical, you're waiting in your ambush place because you're a bass. And that's what bass likes to do, all right? All of a sudden, this little creature comes swimming by you, and you're like, God damn, that looks good. I'm not sure. Maybe I won't eat that. That's kind of suspicious. It comes across again, and you're like, it looks pretty good, though. Finally you get so mad because the thing just keeps going past you're, like, I'm killing this goddamn thing. Bam. You hit it. All of a sudden, you're lifted up into the sky, out into another world you didn't even know existed. And you're looking at these strange creatures while they stare at you. And they hold you up and they examine you, and you're sitting there like, what is going on? And you're traumatized. And then when they throw you back in, you swim back to your friends and you try to tell them, and nobody believes you. They had to pull the probe out of your mouth, too. They did. They pulled the probe out of my mouth. Hurt like hell. I've got a hole in my cheek. How did I get that? Jerry? And Jerry's like you're so full of shit, Billy. I saw the mothership. You didn't see nothing, man. It was bright and sparkly and had a light. You were swimming in the methwater again. You see how I brought that back? It's full circle. Felt like full circle on that one circle. That was good. Thank you. If you need resident alien guy I just need a little time, and I can keep trying to get all the stuff together because I've got all kinds of stuff that I've been looking at and started digging into the CIA documents that were released on CAA Gov. Have you heard anything, like, jumping out about it? Have you seen anything that just blew? You sent us the video, so that video wasn't even from that. That's the crazy part. That was from that homesteader channel. Let me tell the folks out there the video so they can check it out, too. Yeah. Let me go back here and like I said before we started recording, if this is a fake, it's the most glorious fake I've ever seen. Okay? The video that Josh sent to me and Tyler was called UFO sighting caught on camera. Montello, Wisconsin. June 13, 2021. And it says four shots. So put all that in your search bar. You'll find it. It's homestead something. Didn't know what it is. It's a homesteader channel, so they're not even a UFO channel. I'll tell you what else I'll do, is just in case I jumbled that real bad. I will go ahead and share this to the facebook page as well. I'll just eliminate as much error as I can. But you sent us the video. I thought I watched it, but after seeing it a little bit ago, I know I didn't see it. It's pretty incredible. It's absolutely incredible. And it's four snapshots of the night sky and the lights, everything. Like I said, if it's a fake, it's one of the best fakes I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, it's incredible. It's awesome. I was sitting there watching it, and me and Tyler were sitting there watching it on my phone, and I just didn't know what to think of it. It gives you a really good close up, too. Yeah, it's odd to me. It looked like, I don't know, like a boat with a bunch of seats in it. Yeah. I don't know. And you notice when they're doing the video, they basically they just took four screens. There are four snapshots, and played them as a video. And when they do, it kind of fast in rapid succession. You can see the lights strobing. The orange lights on top look like they're strobing. It's so wild. It's incredible. I could see it too, though, as he plays the four shots, you can see the lights actually moving. It's pretty well. It's pretty compelling, honestly. I've seen some UFO videos before. I've seen a couple of things. And there's also been a lot of videos where it was like lights moving around like crazy. I've seen those. The starlink thing came up recently. There was somebody had sent me that stuff, like, hey, we just saw this. We shot it out to the constant listeners, man. They were right back with, hey, that starlink. Check this out. Here's, this here's, this. Yeah, there's a few like that. There's another one. It was when the starlink was being launched. The other jason cities didn't know what was going on, and they just seen this bright white thing shooting off into the sky. And everybody was posting videos on YouTube. What is this? What is this? And it was actually that starlink being launched into space. But that particular video that I sent to you guys, the pictures, it's compelling as hell. It's wild. Like I said, I'm definitely by no means I'm not a UFO expert in any I'm way out of touch, right? But I blame it all on sasquatch. Right. I am definitely not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but it interests me and every chance I get, and I don't have a whole lot of time to dig, but when I do, I'm in deep. As soon as the documents released and as soon as I found the CIA website and started searching through there I think I even told you this I went through and I picked two randoms just two random documents, and one was in 1996, and one was in 1978, and they were two countries apart. It was like the USSR. And somewhere on the other side, coming into Europe I forget which country it was, both encounters, the lights that were seen, the descriptions of both of it was almost identical. Well, and they were 30 years apart, 20 years apart, whatever it was. That's kind of interesting because you would think if it was man made, that in 30 years it would change. We went from wagons to vehicles and airplanes. Right. The weird thing about it was, too, is I'll have to dig everything up so you can put it on, like, a little synopsis or whatever on the Facebook page. But it wasn't just like Rando's. These were, like, law enforcement that saw this. And these are the documents from their encounter where they saw the lights in the skies flying over the city. The description of the craft that was doing the lights were almost identical in both. And like I said, one is from 96, and one is from, like, 78. Yeah, I'll have to dig up everything and send it to you. That's pretty well. Yeah, I think the last real big UFO thing that I ever looked into was that underwater structure. It has, like, the staircase, something built on it, and it literally looks like it's on a runway. You remember that one? Yeah, it's off the coast of Cuba, wasn't it? Yeah, we talked about that before. That was the only one I really looked at. That one fascinated me because I'm like I'm sitting here looking at, like, dude, look at that. That's a spaceship. Yeah. And they're like, yeah. It's not really a spaceship, though. It's just like, you know, it's like the face on Mars. Yeah. They're like, well, it's just a shadow. Yeah, it's a shadow that looks like a face. They're like, yeah, but it's just a shadow. It has eyes and a nose. Right? But it's like the way the light hits it. Okay? The light hits its nose, and it makes a shadow. It's a face. Right? I'm not an expert, but it's a face. You know what I mean? If there's a million people that can tell me there's faces in pictures of bushes, that's a face on Mars. Why? You remember the Obli esque stuff that was going around a couple of years back? They kept finding these, like, strange pillar structures here on Earth and out on planets. They keep, like, finding them. They keep spotting them. This was a big thing a couple of years back, and then all of a sudden, it's just media silent, like nothing about it. But I'm sure you can dig it out. I don't remember. I know that there was a big thing about what petroglyphs, I guess, where they were finding things carved into the surface of deserts and things like that. See, that always made me wonder, too. There's, like, what is in Peru, the gigantic pictures, the birds and things like that that are carved into the just walked into the desert. Like, who is that for? You have to be high enough up to appreciate it. Yeah. Do you give me a piece of paper and watch me struggle to do a straight line? Right. And these are gigantic images on the ground that, like you said, you can't appreciate it unless you go way the hell up in a mountain or something or up in the air and look down. Back then, even if that's what happened, they were like, well, let's make something. We can go up on the mountain and look at. I mean, you lay a few stones, don't you kind of got to stop and go back up. Go back up and check to see if you need to little to the right. To the left. Right.

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He can't hear me. The big rock? No. Oh, God. He moved the wrong the other one. He can't hear me. He can't hear. This is going to take forever. And it probably did I don't know, most of them probably say, what else do we have to do? Right? So you've got all these pictures carved in the rock and walked through the desert and stacked rocks and ancient Egyptians with apparently perfect geometry. But not only that, they had batteries. Yeah, like the Middle East had batteries. How I can see fumbling onto this stuff. Because you may make a single cell battery out of just random materials, but depending for what did it power exactly. You can make a battery out of a potato, but you have to know that you can make it because you have to have something to power it. You know what I kept thinking is, again, I'm probably going to disqualify myself from the round table of UFO stuff in the future, but what if somebody landed and they needed a jump start to get back out of here? And they were like, hey, you guys are really primitive, but I can show you how to make these. I need like 700 of them. And the people were like, Dude, it's the gods. Right? We have to build these. So they're like, let's make a bunch of these for them. And they made like, 700 of them, and they jump started these aliens back into space. So, you know, there's like if you look at some of the hieroglyphs what am I saying? That right. The hieroglyphs in Egypt. I think so, yeah. Were there pictures of what looks like electric cables and giant light bulbs? And they're holding the giant light bulbs at the guy that's sitting in the weird dish chair with the hood over it. There's that part. You mean the spaceship? Yeah, exactly. It looks like a spaceship and it looks like these guys would get ready to jumpstart him. Right. But there's also a theory that I just made all that up before, too. Is that real? Yeah. So there's also a theory that the pyramids are not just tombs, but they're also charging stations, because they said that something, when they got into the center of one of the pyramids, water was actually running up, like going up the side of the cavern. I guess it was doing a weird magnetic thing where it was, like, changing gravity inside of it. I think I'm wrong on that. If it's doing that shit, then this works. But they did say that they found stuff. They found, like, cables. I can't remember what they use for the conductors. I think it might have been copper, but copper, I mean, we still use it. They had gold. They had tons of gold. The tops of the pyramids were covered. Gold. Gold is like a real superconductor. That's what my adapter from my headphones is. That's gold. Nice. Yeah, they could have used gold, but that's the thing, too.

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Yeah. Motherboards chipsets. They still have golden. Yeah. Gold is a superconductor. So if they had gold caps and that's the thing, gold was shiny and valuable, but it's not like it is for us. But you got to think about the current that has to go through to charge something like that. It would melt pretty. Like if it needed to charge something, wouldn't it melt that? Gold is only used for small faults, like small frequency little bursts.

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If you put a lot of amps through gold, it would actually get too hot because what's the melting point of gold? It's not very hot. It's got a super low it's malleable right off the bat. You can actually shape it without shape it cold. Yeah, you can shape it cold. Yeah. That's the whole third Bond alchemy, isn't it? Like one molecule off of being lead? Yeah. I don't know. To me, though, it's kind of funny that you brought that up because I'm like, no kidding. Literally just made all that stuff up as a joke, basically. That, to me, sounds probable. Like if somebody crash landed, somebody crash landed and they're like, hey, we're kind of stuck, fellas. But there's these guys. I think we can get them to help us. They think we're like gods or something. Let's just talk to them. And then we use our minds to talk to them. And that made it even if you're standing there in your primitive culture and something speaks into your mind, oh, my God, this is something from this is god. This is the gods. Chariot of the gods. You know what I mean? Another thing, too is what about but they don't depict them unless these creed like the pyramids aren't the pyramids aimed at Orion's Belt or something? Or some stars or something. What was it? The three pyramids, like, line up with Ryan's Belt, and they're almost exactly perfect, like, square oriented to longitude and latitude or something like that, too, aren't they? It's crazy how accurately they were placed. Another thing, too, is, like, I know there's still a lot of speculation about how they were built, and a lot of people come back to, like, well, it was just simple manpower. It was manpower over generations, but I can't think of a single thing that would get that many people to work together on something for that long outside of some external thing, something bigger than life. Well, you got to think, too, that's what the pharaohs were like, the kings. They were basically what they were god kings. Yeah, they were like descendants or actually, like, the closest to the gods. What was it, a demigod? Is that what you call that? I think so. That's got to be close to it. It's not. It the whole dimigod is like Xerxes. I think the demigod is Nephilim. It's the same thing as it's the Greek equivalent of the Nephilim. Yeah, I wonder, too, some of their depictions, too, of some of the creatures that they believed in, you know what I mean? Especially, like, the dog headed what is the name of it again? The Sphinx. Not the Sphinx, but the other one. Anubis. Anubis. Yeah. Well, I think he's not no, that's a Cyrus. Cyrus is the god of the underworld. Anubis is the guardian. Like, he's the gatekeeper of death. Got you. He's like the Grim Reaper of their it's interesting, though, how many different creatures they drew, right? I saw a cave painting. I was actually looking at these cave paintings that this guy was making. It really he was showing a case for basically prehistoric man and Sasquatch stuff, and he was showing all these animals, right? He was like, you look at this cave panning from millions of years ago, and he's like, that's a deer. That is a deer. You're going for the they saw it, they drew it. They saw it, they drew it. He's like, here's a buffalo. And he's like, here's this whatever animal this is. And then there's this, like, big, tall, hairy man. And he's like, come on, these guys, you know what I mean? They were prehistoric man. They weren't quite to the whole, like, what if there's a dude that's like, they weren't to that. Yeah, they were like, man, I'm hungry. I'm going to go kill that thing and eat it in a way they didn't have imagination yet.

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We're talking back before, like, the very beginning of sexual dimorphism, where females started to become fair, you know what I mean? The term fair, like the feminine qualities. The women were just as brutish as the men were. They were tough. They were built similar that's our body hair. Our body hair is actually a layover of that. There's a reason why the pubic hair on men and women are shaped different. It's so that you could tell what you saw from a distance. Seriously, that's part that's a layover from that era is men's pubic hair is square. Women's is kind of V shaped. It's so that when you were standing at a distance and you saw another creature, you knew whether it was a possible threat or a possible mate. Wow, that's crazy. I didn't know that. I thought it was more of an accent. That only works if you're in pretty correct wind. Oh, yeah, true. That's another thing too, as far as, like, cave paintings. And there is an argument out there like, they just drew shit. They just drew stuff, you know what I mean? They drew it. They made up stuff. They drew stuff, but it's like, okay, but 99% of the stuff they drew was stuff that they did or saw. Like, here's mammoths, here's them hunting mammoth. It was them hunting and throwing spears at stuff. Yeah, it was the story of the hunts. It was the stories to hand down to the next lineage so they could remember it. It was like their book. It's not idea for different than we do with our timelines on Facebook or whatever. This is a primitive, hominid, primitive human who one of his least chief concerns is where he's going to poop later. It doesn't matter. He might literally poop right there next to where he's drawing. Because he's in the middle of his drawing, he doesn't want to stop. What I'm saying is like the imagination thing, right? The imagination and conscious and what he called constructive thinking and then abstract thinking, all that stuff. These are things that were just they were just starting. They weren't even in their, like, fledgling states yet. They were like the seeds of these. And I'm like, okay, here's a buffalo, here's him throwing a spear at a buffalo. That's pretty straightforward. One's a buffalo, the other one's him throwing a spear at the buffalo. That tells me everything I need to know. He wanted to throw a spear, or he did throw a spear at that buffalo and they ate that buffalo. Good for him. And then maybe he made some clothes out of the buffalo. I don't know what he did. And then here's another one where they showed some mammoths back there and they were going to try to scare a mammoth off a cliff and eat it, you know what I mean? Or whatever they're going to do with it. And then here's an eight foot tall hairy man standing there. Where did the idea come from that he was just like, I'm going to draw guys a lot bigger than the other guys in the village, and I'm going to make him hairy, and I'm going to go get the other guys and tell them to look at it. I would say if there was more like how many have you saw these cave paintings? I've seen a couple. There's a couple of different ones. I was actually like if it was like one, I could think that it might have been an homage to a big dude, a respected warrior. Because you just said like clothing and stuff. Yeah, and he was just covered. He was checked out, like in his warrior, the full suit. But why, if it was a warrior? Bill Brasky. He was dapper. Do you remember the Bill Brasky skip from San Antonio Live? Bill Brasky, he was the baddest, the biggest, the meanest. Everybody talked about him like he was the Bonnie Man giant. Maybe because he would you would embellish somebody that's but if it was a warrior, why wouldn't he added weapons or something of this nature? Why is it just weapons had nothing in it? And you said it was cross multiple cave paintings too. There's lots of them. So that's what I'm saying is there has to be some type of the connection is the consistencies in the paintings. So you can't say it was like that was their king, what was it? Tribal elder or something like that. He was master, been their chief. Their chief. But you could say that. But why wouldn't they? And through all history of those primitive cultures and stuff, they always depict their kings, the higher warriors and stuff, holding weapons, looking massive. That is true. They always deck them out. They deck them out. So why wouldn't they do that? For this and that's human nature now too. If you look at kids drawings, the biggest person in the picture is the most important person to that kid. That's true, that's true. I don't know. To me, when I was looking at it, I was like, okay. What I was getting around to was I saw that, thought it was interesting. But there's also cave paintings of weird shapes in the sky. It's everywhere. And I'm like when I see that, I'm like, dude, these guys, they drew shit. They saw they drew people flying. They literally drew people flying. Like I could totally see what Tyler was saying there too. They drew their big chief guy. He's big, he's tough, he's the baddest. Let's draw him. Let's make him look important. He's important. He's awesome. Go Dave. Chief Dave. Right. But then why a flying saucer? Like why a spaceship? You know what I mean? Your bird pictures is pretty I mean it looks like a bird, right? What the hell is that? Well, even with the Egyptian stuff, the creatures with the eagle heads that looks like an eagle. Yeah. The person sitting in a helicopter looking thing is a person sitting in a helicopter looking thing. Yeah, I've seen that. And the Egyptians had enough intelligence to build the pyramid pristine. Yeah. Sorry. Did you get a garage critter? Yeah, right in my neck. I watched it like he's like, dude, a cave. I want to see cave paintings. He's in there drawing Denny right now, all stoic, looking out with an eagle. Right, I see what you're saying. I've seen that picture, too. The helicopter. It looks like a helicopter. Yeah. I'm just saying how's that going to warp? But the Egyptians were not primitive, not in the same regard as indis neanderthal or Australopithecus or something. The egyptians had records. They had society. It's like the whole thing with the pyramids is that everybody, over time, everybody always says, because of the Bible or whatever, that it was built by slaves. It's not it wasn't built by slaves. The amount of craftsmanship that went into that was built by artisans, by true craftsmen, by people who cared about their craft, that learned how to build them. Slaves don't take the time to learn how to do this stuff before they're enslaved. Usually they're not instructed either. I mean, it's literally because you don't want manual labor. That was like, always in everything. Like your slaves, they were manual labor. I'm in construction, and I can tell you right now that I would not put a laborer on something that I need a journeyman carpenter on. Yeah, I'm not going to take a laborer and have a case out of door. Right. It makes sense to me. Like I was saying back then, I don't think you would teach that kind of skill. I feel like you would teach it, too, if it is a slave, I think if they were getting to that point or something, like you would start teaching to help out or something of that nature. But if it was, I could see slave labor to get the rocks to Egypt. Yeah, but as far as the actual building of the pyramid, those were skilled masons. The only thing because they kept saying is, how the heck do they get the persistent cuts? The only thing I kept thinking was think about it. Have you ever seen these people at, like, rock quarries and stuff? Yeah, they put wedges in these. Yeah, I've seen that. And they'll smack with a backhoe or not a backhoe front loader or something. And then these wedges will start and it would cut, and they do that same stuff with granite and stuff of that nature. So all I kept thinking is that they just need manual labor. Think of a giant guillotine. They slide the thing in, it literally just drops on there, and they literally just pick it back up and then it really cracks. They would sit there and hammer spikes into it and keep doing that into the line. They wanted it to split, and then they would start hammering wedges. But even that because you think that we don't have a whole lot of, what do you call it? Like evidence of ancient Egyptians having complex mechanical stuff. So if they did this stuff, it was by hand, and it was literally one rock. I mean, that's a weekend. I split this thing. And what about the tools, too, back then? Yeah. What type of material? I don't think they had any type of it wasn't steel. It's weird that this is actually something that I can actually chime in on. I'm trying to talk about it because it's odd because it just seems just like the whole electricity thing. How did they get to think about melting this material? Because they thought it was harder. I know things like once you're taught something, accidents can happen. Just like how you said rocket fuel was invented. It was by an accident, but they were set out to make fuel. That's what they were saying. It was there, but something had to be hydrazine. They were experimenting with in a barn in Russia. They were literally playing with hydrozine in a barn, and they literally blew themselves up and accidentally discovered rocket fuel. Hey, I mean, you got to break some eggs, right? Sorry for getting off the topic, but I think we said the same thing about the Vikings and stuff. How did they get to that point? What showed them what made them think that any iron that the Egyptians had would have been in trade? So that, to me, says it wouldn't have been a lot. I mean, these are guys that were they were using a lot of copper tools. And we all know here that copper is not viable in regards to any kind of heavy work. I mean, copper making a blade out of copper is barely going to even cut rope. It's not going to do much. It's going to dull the fuck out, like left and right. Weapons. That's a little different if you're making a weapon to pierce or cut somebody. And it's actually good because it poisons, doesn't it? Isn't that bronze? I thought bronze actually does like, some type of thing is a such thing as copper poisoning. But I think, in all honesty, if you were stabbed and lived, I feel like you could get through it. There was some type of affection that happens. It's the opposite. The opposite with bronze. It's the reason why bronze was used for so long. Is it's antimicrobial by nature? Okay, that's like why doorknobs and handrails and stuff used to always be bronze. Just because it's somewhat antimicrobial, it's hard for bacteria to grow on bronze. Bronze is an interesting alloy to work with, too. It doesn't react the same as, like, iron. With iron, you can heat it to Helen back and you can basically just beat the shit out of it. And honestly, with the type of fuels they used back then by the way, folks, I've been a knife maker and a blacksmith for about almost ten years. The reason I know this stuff is because I was obsessed with it. With bronze or with iron, you can heat it to Helen back and keep working it. And the types of fuels they had back then, primarily contrary to belief, was charcoal. It wouldn't be coal. Coal wasn't going to come around for a long time. But charcoal, well, the more you heat iron, the more carbon you start to get. It starts giving you some carbon and eventually you'll get yourself a piece of low carbon steel if you keep at it long enough. But bronze doesn't do that. Bronze, like Josh said, it's very resistant. And it doesn't like high heats. It likes low heats, dull heats. I'm talking like 900 degrees to 1000 degrees range. You work it in a dull red heat to shape it if you want to hammer it. So back then, a lot easier. Bronze and copper and copper being super easy. You don't even really need heat. You could pretty much just melt it and pour it and then sharpen it. Because like I said, if you're using it as a weapon, well, that's easy. Human body is not exactly made of stone, so you can do some damage with copper then. But as far as like heavy quarry work with stones and such, even iron isn't going to do much. Iron isn't going to last. Do that after a couple I would say if you put a decent, like there's a reason it's named Rockwell Hardness, you know what I mean? It measures the hardness of a piece of steel versus diamonds, you know what I mean? Like diamond being super hard, rockwell Hardness comes up. And then when you get to that sweet point where you know your edge is going to last forever, that's where you stop, that's where you want to cut it off. They didn't have that back then. They didn't have those kind of capabilities. The Vikings had one type of weapon that was pretty close to a medium carbon steel. Now and they didn't even make that steel. They got it in trades. They were trading all up and down the Volga River and they were getting that stuff from what would have been, I think it would have been what was it called? I know they say that Damascus is named for the place, but nobody really knows where Damascus steel actually came from. But they had the superior steel. Vikings traded with them. They got the steel, they'd get a couple of bars, make a sword, and the sword is just awesome. We're talking way after Egyptians. Egyptians wouldn't have had anything. Honestly. The only thing I could think of was the tools were made out of other stones and that's just do we have evidence of that? Is there anything out there showing that we have stone tools that these guys use that would actually make more sense? Because I know they would probably take a while, but you got to think if they had some type of, like I said, was like a guillotine or something. Something heavy dropping on that over time, another big rock spent a weekend lifting this one up with an edge smack set that's what their way of life was like. They would break something, fix it. Watching that movie 10,000 BC. In the movie, it showed the mammoths pulling the stones up and even that, I was like, well, shit, that's even more believable. Mammoths were around after the Egyptians. Yeah. Would they be in that type of area? I don't know. Maybe. I mean, elephants are think about it. Well, the DNA wise, elephants are not much different than a mammoth. So wasn't there like a siding in Siberia of a mammoth? Yeah. Did you see that video? It was in color, so it wasn't too terribly long ago. Yeah, it was 40s or 50s, wasn't it? The video was it was tape. Like, it was a tape video. So it's a super eight kind of thing. But there was a lot of people that were saying they were like, oh, it's a bear walking with a salmon in its mouth. Right? I remember you telling me this, and I've watched that clip. It is not a bear. Hundreds. It is way too big. That river is ridiculous deep, and this thing is walking through it. I'm like, Dude, come on. If it is a bear, we've got an even bigger problem here, because that is a super bear and we need it to stay there. I don't understand why everybody wants to dismiss anything from prehistory that lingered over because, like I said, we were closer to mammoths than the pyramids. Realistically, they were still on Earth. These people saw mammoths, the seal of camp, the fish that everybody thought was pre stored fish. They just covered that in, what, the 30s or something? It was actually a lot more recent. I've got to be careful because the last time I got to do my redaction now, so the last time I was on, I talked about the reduction hour. So the last time I was on, I was talking about the gorillas being discovered in the 1960s. Yeah, I got that wrong. And I actually fact checked myself. The gorillas were, like, discovered in 19 two, and there was a tribe of gorillas that was discovered in the it was a type of mountain gorilla that people didn't think was there. But even then, I'm only 60 years off, right? 60 years isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of grand scheme of things. Sorry. Mosquito. The thing that got me about that whole thing was that how people reacted to other people talking about stories of the gorillas, right? Yeah. There's people back then going like, dude, there's these hairy people up there. Those are gorillas. They're up there. They're like, now they're not, man. Yeah, that's a hoax. That's a dude in a suit, man. You know what I mean? Right? You're silly. You're stupid, stupid gorillas. And then turns out they're real, and it's like, oh, that's cool. Now everybody on the planet's like, oh, it's gorilla. That's cool. Let's put them in zoos. What was the other thing that you said to this? I can't remember who you said it was some famous it was a crypto zoologist, I think. Was it some type of turtle? The Galapagos Islands. What was it? The tortoise. The Galapagos tortoise. Yeah. Everybody said it was just it wasn't real or something. When Darwin came back with that stuff, they thought he was full of shit. And then he brought him back with him, like, oh, look at it. Then everybody thinks it started with the giant turtles, and it didn't. It was two different finches, little birds that he caught in cages. That's what he took back. And the reason was is because they had finches where he was from, and he wanted to show the difference that these evolved differently than theirs. And that's actually pretty awesome that you just said that, because that kind of kicks us back to what we were talking about, the Yeti. I thought you were going to talk about the bird drones. No, not the birds. No, not that far back. Darwin discovered the bird drones. Yes. And he proved without a shadow of doubt that the Earth was full. It was flat, and it was full of bird drones. You can't make this shit up, man. Like, seriously, it's too golden. Yeti is amazing, right? Like the difference in difference in evolution, we're all about full circles. I'm just saying that shows that just because I know that we were just saying we didn't want to touch base, like different races and stuff, but in animals and species of all walks of life, if you start living in a different area for a long time, you're going to change in a certain way. What about that movie Pandurah? Remember Pandurah? The pandum movie. They gave them something great actor. They gave him some type of thing. I know this is a fake movie, but still they gave them some type of medicine that will let them when they get to the new world, it will help them adapt easier on that. But apparently I hope that you guys didn't a lot of people see it. I don't know if I have or not. I don't think I have. You're about to learn the whole plot. Spoiler. I'll take my headphones off,

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but it won't be in stereo. Wow. I'm sorry about that. That's all good. But yeah, they gave them this to come back on. When they get to the new planet, they can adapt. And then apparently they get out and they have to I guess the spaceship crashed. They got out. They evolved in their environment. Inside the sheep. Inside the sheep. The sheep. This is the mead. You guys aren't going to let me on the episodes anymore. You got to think, just because I know that's a fake movie, but it's still a similar thing. They gave them a medicine to help them force that evolutionary stance. But evolution, yeah, it backfired, but it's still the same thing. Fantastic film. Yeah, it's fantastic. Really? If I told you the plot, I didn't tell you the whole plot. If you watch it, you'll be like you'll be like these guys are terrible at describing this to me. This is so much better. Well, the only thing I described was the humans evolved just because of their stuff around us. Environmental evolution. It's like where you're at forces you to become what you are because you got to adapt. You got to overcome what is. People up in colder climates and stuff, like Alaska and stuff. You'd go up there, we'd probably be freezing our butts off, but some of them will be outside on a T shirt like they're used to. It like their bodies change. It's acclamation. Yeah, that's the word. Acclamation. Yeah. We're hooked on phonics. Yeah, worked for us. We got some big words on this podcast. You folks out there listening to this, if you're still with us, you're so lucky right now to get to hear this. We probably think we sound just so intelligent and we've evolved because of the mead. The mead has evolved us. And we are like, right now, we think we are making some serious some serious Mark Twain shit is going on. But when we listen to this, when you guys out there listen to this, it's probably not going to sound anything like what we think, is it? I think we accidentally made a blooper reel.

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Pandura. Pandura. Awesome. I love sheep and sheep, but I like these kind of conversations because nothing was planned. Nothing was planned. We're just throwing these together because it's riffing for sure. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. But fun. Like I said earlier, when we started, it looks like we have like two and a half episodes here. I don't know how we've got almost three episodes here. It's awesome. It's definitely darker than when we started. Oh, yeah. Well, like I said in the beginning what the hell did I say in the beginning? I said something in the beginning, didn't I? There were some words. I don't want to bring him back up. But you did just let that guy know about his message. What's his face? I didn't know his name. He deleted his message? Yeah, he was really quick. So we spent 3 hours rattling cages. We did. I feel like we're rattling cages now. Especially flat earth people that believe in pigeon drones. It's not like we came out and said, like, hey, we we don't risk you know, you're completely wrong. Believe what you need to to get through this life, you know? It's fine. Wait. Like, you got to like I'm going to have my own opinion, but I'm just a podcaster take with what? If you want to believe me or not, that's fine. That's what I was saying earlier. We've made like $8 off of our podcast. It's not like we're in it to get rich. We're having fun. We don't have a script. We don't even really honestly, we loosely and I say that very generously, we loosely plan what we might talk about, and sometimes it doesn't happen. Sometimes we just talk and you guys are along for the ride. It's more like we started this podcast because it was more about getting people on here talking about their encounters, and it kind of morphed into more of a discussion about all these cryptids and unexplained stuff. And I feel like people are enjoying it because they can join in. I feel like we said that from the beginning. It's just our conversations might not align up with what they're thinking, but it gets some gears turning and different opinions come out of it. I really do enjoy when people randomly just drop a letter on a comment and I'll sit there and read it, and I'm sitting there reading it, and they're telling me stuff I've never heard or their opinion. I'm just like, Dude, this is amazing. And I always thank them. Always thank you for taking the time out of your day. Nobody does that. So when they do it, I really appreciate it. I think it's awesome. Like you said, we've been riffing this whole time. We've got a pretty long one, but we have graduated. We have graduated. We're now on anchor, and we can have longer episodes now, so we'll probably bust this one into two, I think. So. I think we can bust it into two. Plus, everybody loves Josh, too. I appreciate that, too. Everybody loves you. I have the analytics to prove it. We saw it happen. We watch our analytics. We watch the progress. And honestly, it's more of just an enjoyment. Like, when you see it, you see downloads just going, and you're like, wow, man. People really they're out there. It's really cool. And then when your episode dropped, it actually did something that really none of them have done. It took off on the YouTube and actually straight podcast platforms. No kidding. It went crazy on both. That's awesome. There was comments. I don't know if you saw it on the actual video on YouTube. There was literally comments saying, hell yeah, bring Josh back on. Nice. You know what I mean? And there's, like, all this. So Josh, you're definitely going to have to be I mean, you're going to have to be a recurring regular, because here's the thing. We promised people that we would give Snap you whenever we could, and we don't want to go back on it, right? That'd be shitty. And we could do it at your place anytime, or we can do it out here. Right on. I mean, I've got enough extension cord. We could go anywhere out here. Yeah, you want to go out there next to the cows? We can do that. You guys want to hear some cows in the background sometime? Do it on a Saturday night. Listen to the racetrack oh, hell yeah. I like that too. We've been pretty upfront with that. I love the idea of having a studio built just for this, just to do this, especially when the winter months start coming in. But as far as the format or whatever, it's like, yeah, we're just a bunch of good old boys and we're sitting outside. I could spend hours putting noise gates on and compressors and getting rid of the background noise, but that's life going on out there, so let's appreciate it. I've got a fire pit. You've got a fire pit? Absolutely. I put fire in bottles. We can stay warm. That's true. That would be a cool video to do one night, passing a bottle at a campfire, you know what I mean? Talking about the mysteries of the universe. Oh, I get it. Dig it. That's cool. I don't know. Like I said, we got about two, so we may want to wrap it. But hey, it doesn't mean that it's the end. Yeah. No matter what infinite episodes coming, I think I don't see us slowing down anytime soon. This has become kind of a priority to us to get this stuff out there to you constant listeners and make sure that we keep the conversation going. And as always, if you've had anything, any kind of encounter, or you just want to shoot us, your thoughts, do not hesitate. They are valid. I don't care what you believe, you believe flat Earth, tell us why. Educate us. I want to know. I really do. That's genuine. I want to know. And if there's anybody out there that believes the birds are drones, please contact us, let us know. I want to know everything about it. I want to know. Because there has to be some really interesting stuff behind this theory, and to hear it from someone who actually, from that point of view, I think that would be pretty incredible. So, encounters@kyxfile.com, you know the drill, you know the address. I'm sick of telling you. You know, it also too. I know I keep plugging this and we'll keep doing it to one of you guys does it. There's a link on our Facebook page, and you can click it, and you can literally send us a voice message. And if you send it, as long as you don't say anything too terrible about me or Tyler and insult us and insult our guests or say bad things about Grandma, we will play it. We'll play it right here on the show, and it'll be great. You can tell us anything you want to tell us about your encounter. If you want to keep it short and sweet, it doesn't matter. If you want to take up some space, from what I understand, you can do quite a good message on there. Click on it, let us know. Talk to us, say hi. Don't be a stranger. And I don't know if you want to hear you want gibbs back on. You know what to do. Just keep commenting. Just let him know. Tell him he's smiling right now. I'll come back for sure. He's smiling. Just tell me. Tell me to come back. I really wish you guys out there could have some of this meat, because it was fantastic. Josh, seriously, thanks for having us. Ever been? Oh, it was my pleasure. Absolutely my pleasure. Thank you. Absolutely awesome. And the mead was wonderful. We were actually sitting here drinking it out of horns. I might snap a picture of that and put it on the Facebook when this episode airs. It's really cool. Very Viking. Awesome. Wonderful stuff. And wonderful, awesome conversation. Always a pleasure. And yeah, I guess until next time, guys. You guys be good to each other out there. Keep your heads on swivel.