Episode 2: DOGMAN vs BIGFOOT???

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Tyler yes. Here we are at 64 subscribers. Later, after our test run I still can't believe it, man. Yeah. That was awesome. Very, very quick. I'm just a response. I'm not here to toot our own horns, but I went too toot little toot give a little clap. I'm glad that it's actually somebody's listening to it. Somebody's out there listening. Yeah, somebody's out there listening. I want to make sure that the stuff that, like Lee said got their gears, got them turning. I don't know why it sounded like a clock or something like that, but I listen. They're just curious on the clock. I listened to it by myself once all the way through and then me and you listen to it all the way through at work? Yeah. I loved it. I thought it was good. It just has sucked in the second time. Obviously not all of these stories, but what we got of is stories. I loved every bit of it. It was a lot of fun. And the feedback I'm getting messages from people. The feedback is awesome. Everybody gets sucked into the story and they want to hear it. They want to hear what he's got to say. I love it. I wish we had that for the dog man. Yeah. But we don't. I really would like to see if somebody would come out and see, like, give us some kind of encounter, man exactly. That's been a little bit frustrating because I worked on the sasquatch stuff. I wanted to research a little bit and get a background so I didn't go in completely cold bore. If they said if they describe something like tree knocking, I wanted to know what they were talking about. I didn't want him to have to take us to preschool, basically educate every step of the way up to where he's at. So I was like, okay, I'm going to learn a little bit. But as I was researching, the dog man comes out of nowhere, especially the dog man of the land between lakes and this one is huge. There's so many people that swear up and down there is a dog man or dog men or dog men, depending on how you want to pronounce it. Living in the area of the land between the lakes and the bombshell is that in the family of four was killed in a camper. It was like a camper. This thing was ripped apart. All of them were killed. Whatever. They found one person up in a tree. So you don't think it could have been anything else? That's the thing. I went looking. I went looking like, well, I know there's, like, red wolves. They're not very big. They're not much bigger than a coyote, as far as I understand. But I went looking for that. I was like, well, maybe bears. Maybe there's a bear or something. I don't know. Somebody out there might be able to tell us. Is there bears is the bears big enough to do that? And the most interesting part is the officials that investigated it that actually were there, their official statement was, it was an animal attack. They didn't have anything solid. It's an animal attack, some animal like that's a wide spectrum. Was it a raccoon? You know what I mean? Like, was it a pack of raccoons? Was it, like, the most deadly pack of raccoons that ever walked on the earth? All got together and said, these people got to go. These guys dicks. Was it a bear? I've never seen a bear get, like, how high you're talking about? From what I understand, it was 1213 14ft somewhere in the team, up in the air. You couldn't say that like it was bear then, because that's your number one rule. Like, when you like, if you have food at your campsite and there's bears around, you hanging up in a tree, you hang it up in a tree. Exactly. And the thing that gets me the most about the whole thing is that you would think that with a story that big, that a lot of people would be coming out of the woodworks like, oh, that's a bear attack. That's this and this happened, and this animal came into the camper. Makes me raise a few questions, okay? Why was the camper trashed the outside and the inside? Why was the side panels ripped off of it? Why was the door hanging off of, like, one hinge? I mean, I've never been in a bear attack before, but do they do that? The thing is, I don't even know if there's bears in the land between the lakes. Maybe there is. Somebody's going to have to reach out to us and let us know. But you would think it would bring people out saying, like, oh, it was a bare attack. It was a rabid. Pack of red wolves did it. All you get is it was the dog man. The dog man got them. And it's not just by one person. It's multiple people. The dog man got them. So I got curious. I was like, what the hell is the dog man? What's that all about? We're familiar with bigfoot by now. Bigfoot's everywhere. Sasquatch sightings. You got experts out in the field. You got people everywhere. They're out there, they're searching. They're trying to prove that this is a thing, it's a real thing. It's a real creature. It's a real being, maybe. I don't know. There's even people that believe that the sasquatch is a spiritual entity, but the dog man, not so much. In fact, when you bring up the dog man to sasquatchers, they kind of I don't know. They don't really think that's a bunch of malarkey. I feel like that's a line for them, like, well, we've already got our hands full with bigfoot here. We can't really spare any more time to go looking for this. So I watched a bunch of videos. I even found one. It was like a TV show, like Mountain Monsters, I think it was called. And they claimed that they had a dog man, aka Demon Wolf. And the guy actually showed him footage, and he comes out and he shares the footage. He's walking through the woods. He gets to a tree, and this clip is out on YouTube. You can look it up. When he gets to the tree, he kind of leans around it, and then you see this big wolf, demon looking dog come out and go up over this thing and just run off. Didn't stop and look at him. Didn't do nothing. It just ran off. And I was like, wow, that's staggering. And the reaction in the show was, oh, my God, look at that thing. And they're reacting. So my son's an animator. He likes to do computer animation. He lives for this stuff. I was like, well, why don't you have a look at this, see what you think. So he sits down, he looks and came zooms it in. He slows it down, and he starts picking out the little pixels around the demon dog. And the pixels are blurry in a different way than the rest of the video, like the pixel sizes, you know what I mean? And instantly he goes, I think this is fake. He goes, I just think this is fake. Because he's like, when you look at these pixels around this, he's like, they're different from the pixels everywhere else in the video. He's like, also, the camera panning was too perfect. He knew where the animation was going to be, so he made sure the camera was there. And I kind of felt a little dumb because when I first saw it, I was like, holy shit, look at this thing. I'm excited, but I'm already amped up. I got, like, two weeks of Bigfoot under my belt. I'm ready. I want to believe. So that being said, there's a lot of fakes, there's a lot of nonsense. Yeah, but I've actually heard other things, like other theories about this. They don't think it's just like, a humanoid dog, man, like something like that. They think it's actually, like, what's, the prehistoric wolf? Direwolf. Direwolf? Yeah. It's just like how some people believe that we kind of touched based on the gigantopithecus, like a prehistoric like kind of the prehistoric ape. So maybe this might be another offshoot of if they're seeing something, this is an offshoot of the direwolf because they have record of a direwolf being real. Kind of like what we said on the last podcast. Was the blueprints already there? Yeah, maybe something that right. Yeah. Go back to other prehistoric animals, the ground sloth. Look at sloths that are alive right now. They're slow. They stay close to the ground. They move real slow. The real, like, docile, they're not really mean. I've never seen anything about a mean one, but the prehistoric ground sloth. It was the baddest dude around. Nobody messed with it. It was big, it was nasty, it was mean, it was bad tempered. It was only rivaled in size and ferocity by the shortnosed bear, which little Easter egg here. There has been reports of sightings of a short nosed bear, which I would like to get into in the future. But yeah, maybe the blueprint is there, I don't know. But a lot of these stories say that this thing literally stands up and runs on 2ft. And there's some videos. I've got a couple here loaded up. I figured we'd take a look at. We'll put the links in the description and let people see for theirselves. I'm not really sure what we're going to see. I didn't put together like a specific I literally typed in Dog Man caught on camera in the search and whatever's on there. I figured we'd take a look, we'll check it out, see what we think. Maybe we can get something under here. And what I'm hoping for with the purpose of this whole podcast, folks, you guys listening, is that I'm hoping that one of you has had an encounter with this and maybe we can get you on the phone and we can talk about it. I'd like to hear your point of view. I would really like to hear this from your words. I understand that YouTube videos are a huge media. It's a huge what do you call it, outlet. It's a huge outlet for information. But YouTube's also, you can edit it, you can tamper it. And I want to hear someone just talk to me the way Lee we called Lee. Lee told us a story. That's what I want. I'm looking for someone out there who's had an experience with the dog man. And yeah, I'm hoping that you reach out to us. It's encounters@kyxfiles.com. All right, so if you haven't had something reach out to us, let us know and we'd love to have you on. But yeah, if you want to get into this though, we can do that. At least check it out. This first video I've got loaded up here is Texas Dog man caught on camera. The YouTube page is called Paranormal World. Looks like this has got about 7000 views on it. So if anybody listening wants to check it out, check it out. Let us know what you think. All these podcasts will be on every kind of outlet and YouTube. So you can check us out anywhere. Share it with your friends. Shameless plug. So let's dig into this. I'm going to try to make sure this doesn't deface. So here we go. It's a pretty dark video. Hi, I am in Texas and trolling south from Houston. You can't place the guy's accent. Stop right here. Behind me there is gas station and there is restaurant. So I got some food and I was eating here. Okay, I see a Starbucks sign.

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I am so excited about Texas mythical creature. Okay, so this guy is actually out there looking.

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Something moved over here. I think I saw something, but I'm not sure. It's too dark. Can be dog or can be fox or can be something on the left side of the screen moved, but I couldn't really make it out. Something I will upload it for you when I get home. I'm not going to be home for a couple of weeks, but I'm going to I love you guys. Access though computer too. Thank you. Okay, so we're probably going to get the slow motion replay here. It looks like something walking on the left side. Yeah, things like cut off. So I really can't tell. The only bad part about this is that shadow looked seethrough, it looked like something where somebody drew on the I don't think I got back far enough here. I'm going to upload it when I have time, when I have computer too. Thank you. Yeah, I don't know about that one. The shadow looks really, really seethrough kind of see how you can see right through the grass almost, or the actual shadow? Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about that one. Yeah, that one didn't seem too good. That one's kind of I'm on the fence with that. Anyway. Okay, moving on to the next video. So loading up way of logs. Hopefully we find it. Dog man caught on camera, 2018 in daylight. And this must be it. Looks like we got a couple more here too. So let's check this one out. This is the top one viewed 19,000 times. Video is about two years old. So let's take a look. Hopefully we don't get a bunch ads like usual. I tell YouTube it's way vlog here today. And hello. I'm walking down this path right here in the middle of the woods. There's train tracks that way and it's just woods all this way. And while I was walking down the path, I didn't record it, but I heard fucking howling. It sounded really fucking close and like there's coyotes around here, but it's not as human. Yeah, it's not as fucking human.

Participant #1:
Did you fucking hear that?

Participant #1:
I can't tell if he's fucking knife or anything that excited or if he's overacting his lil liver acting. Yeah,

Participant #1:
I see something discolored right here. Okay. He sees it too.

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Okay.

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Okay. So I don't know. This is the ocean you have to get through to find anything substantial in regards to this. The stories are there. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but the bigfoot videos are more credible. There's a lot more going on with them. There's a lot more consistency. I don't know if that's the right word I'm looking for, but with this subject, it's all over the place. It's more horror factor. Everybody wants to scare somebody. Yeah. Let me see if I can this guy's got a bunch. He's got a lot of dog men. I'm just leaning towards this is like kind of a hobby here's. The seven types of dog men. Let's check this out. There's seven types apparently so. Jesus Christ. Beware of the woods. This video is the seven types of dog men. It is on the channel called Matte Squatch Presents. I like the name so Miss Real, sometimes we are the prey. Spooky. Good evening. Tonight I would like to talk to you about the different types of dog men that are out there. Layman's known them as werewolves and some of their historical significance. Now this is something I really had to look into. I know a bit about dog man. I've heard a lot of the stories as mysterious as Sasquatches and we know very little about the leads and some reports they seem to be a little bit more rare and less widely distributed as bigfoot. But I looked into it and it turns out there are close to probably seven different types, perhaps more, that are easily recognized. So for those of you aren't familiar, I did a video about the ten different types of Sasquatch. I'll leave the link in the description. One of my earlier videos, just a quick rundown, we'll go over the four basic types most of you are familiar with. The big patty type with flat teeth, omnivorous, the smaller, more chimp like the wood boogers kind of found in the south woods, warmer climate type three, the one that are found the Missouri Mississippi rivers. Next time we talked to Lee, I'm going to bring that up. We'll talk more about them later in this video because that kind of pertains more to some of these dog men types as well. Devil monkeys and different things like that. And the bigfoot family. I'll leave the link in the description below for you to check it out if you haven't seen it. Okay, here we go. So some of the historical significance of dog men and werewolves or whatever you want to call these things egyptian the most obvious that most of you probably yeah, god anubis in the Egyptian lore, it was a god of the underworld, I believe, and had a jackal like head. That's kind of interesting. So we've had dog man powers and things that history all the way back to wouldn't be normally associated with an animal. And then all over Europe you have stories of werewolves, of men transforming into these giant beasts and also the story of vampire seemed to be linked to them as well. And then battles that these species have. And you always have stories in Eastern Europe and all over the world of small villages being raided by packs of these dog men and werewolves and people disappearing in the night and people like for 1 second too big to be wolf. That reminds me of the story, it was in France, 1400 France. They were terrorized for years, for a couple of years by a giant, like, wolf beast. I think I remember the story, but I'm not sure. Yeah, all the way to the point where they brought in specialist hunters to actually kill it and then they stuffed it. And then the last I heard was the beast itself was stuffed, it was taxidermed and then locked away out of the view of the public. You told me the story. Yeah, they didn't want people to look at it. I always thought that was interesting. Why was that a big deal? I mean, surely at that point they'd seen stuffed wolves and stuffed bears, things like that, before. Have you seen what a stuffed line looks like when a person didn't know what a line looked like? No. It is so disturbingly weird. Really. Yeah, I don't lie. So do you think they just did a bad job at it? They didn't know what a lion looked like, and they had to stuff one for, like, a king or something, like a really long time ago. So they had to make it up in their head and it looked terrifying. They can google it. Maybe when they finish stuff in this thing, maybe they were like, we did a really bad job here, fellas. Let's just tell them that. You shouldn't look at it. Don't look at it. It's too horrible. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. The gatanubas all the way back to Egypt in France. The story of the Beast of I can't think of the name of the place, but it's literally named after that town. The Vikings. The Vikings believed in shapeshifters and berserkers. You know, they would change theirselves in bears. Native Americans believed in men who could shape shift in wolves and bears and all kinds of stuff. Again, like you said earlier, the blueprints are there. At least the legends are there. So I don't know. I mean, some of these videos it only takes one. It only takes one. This woman claims she was able to capture the clearest images of the Dog Man ever when he gave it a second, just in case there's an unexplained mysteries is the channel. The Dog Man is an elusive cryptid that's been seen all across America. Cryptids are creatures that are not backed up by science, noting that there's not enough evidence to suggest that they exist. However, a large number of people have come forward in recent years and have detailed their encounters. And one of the most interesting ones is that of the mysterious Dog Man, a large human doglike creature described as looking like a werewolf and possessing superhuman strengthen abilities. One of the issues with the majority of these encounters is that they happen so fast and the eyewitnesses is usually left dazzled and confused. This comes down to the fact that they weren't expecting to see such a creature, so don't have things like cameras ready when the encounter happens. When the eyewitnesses reach for their camera, the creature is usually vanished. However, I was sent a video photos from a woman who claimed to have captured proof of the dog man. All right. As mentioned, the dog man cryptid is probably one of the hardest to capture on camera and even harder to do so in the daytime. Yet this individual claims that what they saw looked eerily similar to the descriptions of the mysterious dog man. She said the following about the encounter. Yes. Please use the images. I want everyone to look at it and tell me what they think, because I have no idea what it is. It looks like it has a cane on head to me and is as big as a bear. So I'm kind of thinking it's a dog man. Also, there have been several sightings back in the same area of the upright walking canine. Absolutely. Go ahead and share my story as well. Reported seeing a large upright creature. There's definitely something back there, and it's staying around the same area because three other people have seen the same thing, end quote. Here's the video. What is that?

Participant #1:
I've seen it's. Ear flick. Oh, my God. It just legs and perked its ears up. What's? Where is the boy? Do it again, Chanel. Do it again.

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It doesn't appear to resemble the dog man cryptid having a cane on head and slender but muscular body. I feel like if it was more of like a dog man, they wouldn't be sitting there, like, tempting it with hells and stuff out of there. If it's a dog man, why would it be sitting there just staring? You know what I mean? I mean, think of a wild canine. You go into its territory, it's going to let you know, get out of here. It's just sitting there. It might be deer, but at the same time, it's not running away. That's the only problem I'm having. That is true. A deer would usually bulk him sick, wounded. Oh, true. There is a disease where deer becomes zombies. Wasting disease. Yes. Okay. It looks like multiple things as well, because if you look to it's right, I think the right of the picture, it looks like there's something next to it. Yeah. But I can't really make out what. Yeah, I don't know about that one. So I have a question. Shoot. Is a dogman essentially like a werewolf, or is it this is like what we're considering a dog man. It's own thing. It's like a sasquatch. This creature is a creature. It's not a mystical creature or something of that nature. Right. Since we're going through this, let's kind of break it down. I think we've actually talked about this before. What would you think it takes for somebody to actually turn into a werewolf? Like somebody that I think we've talked about this, you would have to have some kind of rapid bone growth. Sure. So some kind of like calcium, an abnormal high calcium level just to grow bones right off the bat always kind of had the feeling like a hair disease. You can't really have one without the other, or you can't have you can't really have best of both worlds when it comes to nature. Right? So, like, sharks are huge and powerful, but they lack in bones. They don't have dense bones. They have more cartilage than anything. They're more flexible, but that doesn't mean they're any less dense and powerful. Whereas, say, like a cow, huge bone structure, very strong cartilage. It has what it needs, but it's not made of cartilage. So my thought was if you had to rapidly grow in size, then I think it would come down to cartilage. It would come down to more cartilage growth, which I don't know if that's even possible. Yeah, I watched a video where a kid literally dislocated his thumb and stretched his thumb out, and his thumb came all the way out past his finger, and then he literally put it back and he was double jointed and he could do all that stuff. The blueprints there. I don't know. As far as turning into a werewolf, the only problem I have with the whole thing is that you got two different animals, the human animal and the canine, on two different evolutionary paths through history. At what point would you have to go from here back to find the common ancestor, which we have a common ancestor with all life on Earth. So at some point in history, there is a common ancestor between us and canines, but there's also a common ancestor between us and felines. And there's a common ancestor, but there are those two. There's actually a story. I can't remember where it actually is, but I can't remember what they called the person, but it was half woman, half cat. Wow, that's weird. Yeah, I'll look it up. But I saw that a while back ago when I was just doing some research and I saw that and I was like, pretty interesting. Another thought is, like, the thought of people combining human and animals, because that's like, Frankenstein kind of thing, because that has happened multiple times. And are you talking about, like, hybridization or are you talking about, like, test tube kind of things? Like taking people and putting, like, placing them. So Frankenstein. Ever seen that? Where they grew a human ear on the back of a mouse? Yeah, back of a mouse. When I first saw that, I was like, oh, my God, here it goes. Here we go. A few news articles saying that they're starting to combine animals with humans. Down like something. The patents for animal human hybridization. We've had that shit locked in for the last, like, three decades. Did we already clone goats? Dolly was the name of the goat or the sheep that was cloned. And Dolly lived a pretty good life, from what I understand. It's identical to the other one. I know there was a family who had a cat, and they got the cat cloned because it was at a big time. I've heard of that, too. That's a big thing. Now, if you're wealthy and you lose your pet, you can literally have so you're telling me they're doing repet from Six Day With Arnold? Yeah. Crazy. But yeah, they're doing it. It's amazing. The one thing that was getting back at the dog man, if you would say definitively it could be real, but you don't believe that it's a werewolf. You don't think it's a human that is turning into a wolf? I don't think it's a human because there's really nothing in nature that does that other than the frog that changes gender. Was the African clawed frog changes gender? Yeah. The closest thing would be, like, the frog and then a chameleon, because the chameleon changes its color change. That's the closest we could probably get. But nothing physically could change octopus. I don't know. Personally, I think that a dog man is more likely to happen than a werewolf, because the dog man can just be a mutant off of a wall. Well, that's what we're saying, is that me, personally, I could not see something, and this breaks my heart a lot, because I do love wear roles, because that's awesome. Me, too. The dog man seems a little bit more plausible because it's an offshoot. It's just like the plausibility of Sasquatch. It's the offshoot. So I'm thinking is that I'm going off of what we said, the gigantopithecus. The blueprint was already there. The direwolf was already there. This thing had to evolve from the direwolf, but there's just not that many. Just like, if the Sasquatch is real, there's just not that many out there. Something interesting I came across. It was funny because I was looking for dog man info, and I ended up with it was like a poster. I think you could actually buy this poster, and it was a bunch of famous foot casts, but it wasn't just bigfoot. It was bigfoot yeti interesting. One of the smaller ones, what do you call it? Forest boogers or wood boogers? Wood Boogers. I love that. I love wood boogers now. Okay. If I ever had a Sasquatch on my own land, I'd probably nickname him Wood Booger just because I like the name of it. But there was a mothman footprint. There was a jersey, what? They call it the Jersey Devil. I think they made the cast to match the old footprints that they found of the Jersey Devil. I don't think they actually casted it. So it's like kind of a replica. Yeah. But there was something interesting that I noticed that the dog man footprints were really cool. I've seen the dog man footprints online before. People have found and I'll admit they're interesting because I feel like it's a lot harder to fake a canine foot unless you're a really good carver or a sculptor. I think it's a. Lot harder to fake a dog footprint because of the way their pad moves. They leave a distinct type of footprint. We found dog footprints and deer. When frank goes running through the woods, he can actually see his footprint. He leaves a footprint that's a lot bigger than his foot because he's in a hurry. When he's in a hurry, he's not graceful. Right. Not all dogs are like that. Some dogs are more graceful when they're in a hurry, so they leave a different footprint. But the thing that's interesting to me is that most of the dog man footprints are the same. They have the same stride to them. And that's one thing. But I'm going to derail for 1 second because I thought this was really interesting. And it's kind of a follow up to the sasquatch episode. We were talking about their feet. Yes. Okay, check this out. The yeti footprints are found over in say, like russia, siberia, asia. The Footcast have the thumb on the foot. Oh, dang. Weird. Here in america? Here in america, alaska, canada, or bigfoot castings mostly have it's a big humanoid foot. But the yeti footprints actually have that offset almost opposable big toe. So they might they might be more related to like the monkey side of the I don't know. But it's it's a consistency. That's interesting. Well, that's another thing, too. Well, the gigantopithecus didn't they it had that same thing, right? It did. There's a problem with the gigantopithecus, though, that science has acknowledged okay, okay. Yes. It was the largest of the what they say orangutang family. Okay. It was the largest of the orangutang family. I like orangutang. I do, too. The problem is that they have no proof that it walked upright. That is pure speculation that I found out. We speculate that the gigantopithic is walked upright, but we actually have no idea. But the skeletal structure have they actually found a skeletal they found pieces, and the whole thing started with a set of molars. So there's more speculation on the actual that's exactly it like science. Because if you actually see this the way that I guess they're speculating on I could not see it. I could see it standing upright just because of the way that the legs are. If you would see the skeletal structure of like, say, an orangutan or a gorilla, you could see how their legs are more crouched down. Yeah. Like you would see the proportions of it and know that, OK, this seems like they would use all its limbs to walk. Sure. So that's what I'm saying. We could actually see that. So that's another thing, too, is that, like, we never seen the like everybody says, like the skeletal structure of you were saying the dogman said that it walks up on two legs. Right. What about the skeletal structure of a direwolf? Has anybody showed that could if the skeletal structure of a direwolf barring some minor things in the tees is almost identical. I mean almost identical in every way, shape and form to a modern day wolf, except for size, it's a lot bigger. And when I say it's a lot bigger, it's a bit bigger. Would you say it's the size of a horse? No. Let's say if it took ten wolves to bring down a buffalo, I'd say it would take maybe five direwolves to take down that same buffalo. So they're only they're not massively bigger. Like if a regular wolf sits this high, a dire wolf will see about here. They're really big. So big. So you're like staying like a mini pony? Yes, big but not I mean like if you saw one and be like, God dang. Oh my God, there's a big old boy. Who's a real good boy? Who's a real good boy? Don't eat. Who's a dead boy? Me. I don't know if I have enough guns here to do the job. I'm going to run. But that's the other thing too. The claims are that the dog man stands up right and runs on 2ft. But I'm really curious as to how does that work. But the thing is if it ran on all fours, wouldn't you have seen forward BOOKMARKS instead of back? Yeah, that's another thing too. What offshoot made this thing? Why would the dog man we can say that. There's some speculations with links and stuff with the Sasquatch and we keep going back to this, but it's our only thing to help kind of bridge a basis. It's the basis of what we're doing. But what causes what would have changed for the dog man to have postal thumbs? But who says that? Yeah, I've been searching for that very detail. Like does it have a humanlike hand? Yes, but nobody seems to have an answer for it. But then that's what I'm saying. Then why does it look and the way the legs are too? What makes it one of stand up? I have a speculation about it. Okay. I don't know if it'll make much sense, but I was thinking a lot about it was the last time we were at the farm and I was feeding my dog, I was actually sitting there and I was looking at him. He's a good looking guy and I was thinking about his hind legs, right. And when you see the footprints you're like, okay, so this is a wolf like Paul, right? Blister like Wolf Blitzer. And when I'm looking at it, I'm sitting there and I'm looking at his leg and I'm like, okay. So I've seen people's renderings of what they said it looked like and has the canine back legs and a long elongated hind leg. You know what I'm talking about? Down to the paw. That design is nature's design for something that she wants to run on four legs fast. That design is not efficient for running on two. So if you told me that the dog man moves on four legs, but he maybe attacks or intimidates on two, kind of like a bear. I could get behind that. I can go with that because even, like most dogs, especially heavy, this is the dog man, just like, probably the weight and size of a Sasquatch. So what do you say? Like, a normal Sasquatch, they say, would weigh five, £800 maybe. From what they're estimating, they're saying anywhere from seven to £1000. Boy. So let's just be generous and say that most dog men are smaller, maybe I would say £700 at least, or maybe 600, even with that much weight. I've seen heavier dogs. Like, let's go with Max. Remember when he just sat on that? He could not keep his lid, like he couldn't stay up there that long. He couldn't because his back legs were yes. He wasn't built for that. He wasn't built for that. So I can see that. So everybody keeps saying that they run away on two legs. I could see them, like you said, intimidate, and then run away. Like they start on two legs, but then once they get this big stride, they'll start to run on all fours. But that's the thing they keep saying, too. Okay, dogs like, OK, look at a dog's shoulders. Like, ours are broad, like running on ours. Have you ever tried to run on all four of legs? I know it's kind of awkward because our legs are not designed for that. Well, our knees, but our shoulders, too, because we're too spread out. We're not kind of kicked in, like how a dog is joining. I would feel like that would reflect on the dog man. Yeah. Because his wide shoulders is proportionate and it's weight distribution. Yeah. So you're telling me that these people are saying that a dog man looks basically has the torso and shoulders and arms of a man, but waist and head of a wolf? Yeah, that's what we're here. I just can't get that because the portions I think that dang thing would be just laying in the middle of the grass somewhere. Like, I can't move. I don't know what to do. The one thing interesting is a lot of people say that. I've read a few where they're saying that, oh, my bedroom window is 12ft off the ground and this thing looked right in my window. And I'm sitting there like, okay, you know what, I'm going to humor this. I've seen my dog stretch himself all the way up and look right over the top of the canal at me. And I'm thinking, so if this thing comes up to the house and it just kind of stands itself up and it can look right in and that would be terrifying. Oh, my God, that'd be horrifying. Could you imagine it? I'd pee myself. I don't even know where I got the gun. Here's another thing. On our way home from work, actually came across somebody I've sent a message from crossing my fingers and my toes that this person gets back to me. Apparently, there are some stories right here in kentucky right here in kentucky about a clash between a sasquatch and the dog man. Apparently, somebody witnessed it. I want to get the whole story. I want to hear about it. It's the rumble in the jungle. Are you kidding me? That's awesome. They got the best pay per view that everybody wants. Exactly. These are the heavyweight champions of well, I don't know. Before, I feel like bigfoot is probably a heavyweight champion, and maybe, like, nessie zoo in cryptozoo is I feel like the dog man is stepping up like welter weight. Yeah, he's putting some weight on. He wants to challenge for the throne. He's, like, rocking. Yeah, he's trying to go. Apparently in the story, though. Apparently. From what I understand, if I get this wrong, hopefully this person will correct me, but from what I understand, the dog man lost this fight. I think that would make sense. First one. But rocky didn't get eaten by apollo creed. That's true. That would have been a much more interesting movie. Hold on. Did he say that he was going, like, the sasquatch ate the dog man? That's what he said. That the sasquatch drugged the body off. I wonder what it tastes like. I don't know. Why are you questioning that? Out of all the stuff that we could have asked about that whole situation, you're like, what would it taste like? That's the same reason we were talking about terror birds, the prehistoric bird. And the first thing I said was, I wonder what barbecue terror bird wings would be like. Oh, my god. It's just a thing when you're heavy, when you're fat like us, you just start thinking this way. The giant bird I showed you. Yes. Oh, god. That's definitely related to the terror bird. She showed me this crazy bird that I didn't even know existed, and I don't ever want to see one. It's like my height, and it's, like, huge. So short. It's a little bit huge. Could you imagine you're walking through the forest? You're strolling, maybe you're bird watching. I don't know. And you find yourself. You hear some noises up ahead, and you're like, what's all the commotion? You know what's going on? And you just step out of the clearing, and you look. And here is the sasquatch and the dog man battling it out right in front of you. What the hell would you do? I mean, personally, I feel like I would freeze. I really do. I feel like I would freeze. I feel like it would take me a little bit for my brain to just fully process what it is that I'm seeing. I probably just said and then probably mess myself and then run. Hopefully, it would mask the sense of me so they wouldn't want to eat me, too. But I couldn't imagine walking up on these two things, just battling it out. What would your opinion be? Like, why would these things fight? Territory? I feel like that would be a big one. It would be territory. Or a meal. Or a meal, yes, territory. They say the female Sasquatches are the meanest. That makes sense. Maybe babies are near the same. Like human women aren't mean. I've heard that. What's that supposed to mean? I've heard that. I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to do an episode on that. What?

Participant #1:
Yeah. What would they be doing? And just like how we said in the previous episode was these noises that Lee was hearing because he said there was other clients. They're just like us

Participant #1:
back in the day. Just like Native American tribes and stuff. Like, hey, this is my land. Yeah, the crazy howling sounds. We were listening to the sounds. Remember that? What was it? Thinker Thunker all the great YouTube channel. Oh, yeah, check them out. But the howling sounds. What if that's the dog man? What if he's out there challenging? Or what if he's out there yelling, hey, this is my territory. That kind of makes sense. This stuff gets into your head, too. I told him this earlier. I don't know if I told you, but feeding the animals at the farm the other day, I'm standing there and I'm feeding the chickens, and in the woods our property sits by a bunch of woods in the woods, I hear, yeah, you told me this. And I just stopped and I'm like, you have to be kidding me. I wanted to bring up back the thing where you said that Sasquatch and Dogman fought, right? Yeah, that's the story. I was thinking about it while you guys were talking, and I was like, you said that Sasquatch won that fight, right? That's how I interpreted it. If I'm wrong, I'm hoping that this person will correct me. But, yeah, in my head, the comparison between Sasquatch and dog man Sasquatch winning is not surprising to me at all. Yeah, because Sasquatch I feel like Sasquatch would be more power, it's more muscle, and a lot more like it's not fast. I mean, it could be fast, but we don't say they're pretty fast. And they say that these things but compared to dog man, who is a dog compared to a quote, like ape monkey thing, dog man would be a lot faster, wouldn't it? What? Dog man? Yeah, because it's like, more like canine. I just feel like the dog man would have a lot more muscle. I mean, not the dog man. Sasquatch. Yeah, I feel like you're right. I feel like the Sasquatch would be your tank. He will be able to take I feel like he would wait for his moment. If this is the truth, the way that I would picture it, the Sasquatch would wait for his moment. He would let the dog man come in hard because it's going to be like, the way that they all talk about the dog man. He's like more of aggressive. Short tempered. Yeah, short tempered. Just aim to kill in certain ways. I would say that he would go in, like he would be very agile, like dexterity wise, just like a wolf would be. Right. But then again, if you think about it, if it has the mindset and the instinct of a wolf, would he even let that Sasquatch know that he was there before he came in there? And if it had the instinct of a wolf, why would it be alone? That's exactly what I was thinking. How do we know it's just one dog man in any area? What if it's a pack? Unless it's an omega? Like, because just like, ones that want to be alpha, they're straight. Yeah, it has to go find its pack. Or it could just be a lone wolf, because that's also a phrase. I just feel like the comparison between a Sasquatch and a dog man, if you, like, put them in your head side by side. One is more built on surviving in the forest through get, like, gathering, like, food and more, like, maternal and more knowing of the forest. The dog man is literally, like, mostly dependent on food, offspring, staying with a pack. And I feel like if it was, the idea of Sasquatch would be, like, more thinking, like, knowing I'm in danger, I need to do something. Dogma would be more in on, like, this is in my territory. I got to kill this thing. Okay. So it would be more aggressive. Let me reiterate if I'm understanding you. Yeah. Okay. So you're looking at the Sasquatch as a much more organized being. Yes, it would be more because there are stories of even Lee said that they hunt deer. You've seen deer all the time doing the job. That wouldn't be easy to run down and catch one and kill it. I mean, Jesus, a dog man, I'd say, could probably run one down and kill one. But a Sasquatch is a big humanoid, so I'm like, I can't help but think, like Lee said, it sat and it waited when the deer were around. So what do you think? It waits and ambushes? What if it grabbed the dog man on accident? Really funny. I've got a fight on my hands here. There's ain't no deer. You know what I mean? If the Sasquatch can lay there and not be detected by deer, that means that it's obviously good at masking it set with its surroundings. What if the dog man just simply walked across it? He didn't even mean to. What if he was on his way to wherever he was going at the time? You mean the Sasquatch was and the Sasquatch was laying there and what if it was a happentance clash where it wasn't actually meant to happen, but it did anyway? It's like that whole thing. Hey, we're in it now, and neither one of us is backing down. You know what I mean? Dog man versus SAS. Watch versus mothman. I'm ready. It sounds like a Sci-Fi movie just waiting to happen. Honestly, it sounds awesome, though. It sounds like a great story. And I really hope this person gets I know I keep saying that, but I'm very excited for this person to hopefully let us give them a call and hear the story because I can sit here and speculate on that one all night. So we've got a little bit of an argument on our hands with the dog man. One is the proportions of the thing. How does an animal designed to run on fours run on two legs successfully? Especially with human traits, with human life. How would it get the human traits? What did it evolve from? Wouldn't we have seen some kind of predecessor pick this in your brain since we've had the whole mixing of DNA and stuff and cloning stuff? What happens if this is like an offshoot? Like something like an experiment gone wrong and they were released? It could be a possibility. Like something just got released in the wild and stuff like that. There's world War Two stories of that makes sense. Nazi soldiers or not soldiers. Nazi scientists experimenting with human hybridization to make super soldiers. I don't know if it's true, but it's out there. It's there to look at. Russian soldiers reported having to stop in advance. I don't know where it was at. You know what? I'll look it up, I'll find out, and we'll come back to it eventually. But apparently there was an area where they stopped their advance because they were getting picked off by large wolflike creatures on two legs. That's terrifying. That's crazy because that's back in World War II. And I know those guys saw a lot and they experienced a lot, and there's a lot of traumatic experience there. But it's crazy. There was archive footage you could look up where it showed a couple of the corpses that they killed laying there. And for being such an old film, it's a little disconcerting when you look at it because you're like, okay, if they fake this, that's one thing, but they would have faked this while there was something much more important going on in the world. There was this great clash, and then right in the middle of it, we have Mr. Dogman again. But this time he's aggressive and he's literally on the offense, you know what I mean? Whereas in most of the stories I've read, the Dog Man is very I get the distinct feeling that the dog man is being caught in the act when I see these videos or hear the reports. Maybe he's going to steal a chicken or a goat and somebody comes out because they hear him and they get their camera and they try to film him and he's like, oh, no, I got to get out of here. Boom. They see him, it freaks him out, and then that's all you get. But there's a couple of stories in there where the dog man is aggressive. So my argument is in regards to pattern, why is the pattern so inconsistent? Why is the pattern and the report is so inconsistent? There's so many people out there that report seeing this thing, and yet we're having a little bit of trouble getting somebody on the line to talk to us about it. Yeah, the other part of the argument is, why did nature decide to create a dog man? If nature did what need did it serve? I could see I could actually put the Sasquatch in a more probability on this regard because multiple types of human and human ancestors live at the same time. And we keep coming back to the blueprint was already there. It seems to be a pattern that's already kind of happened. It happens in nature. Even now, if you look at birds and animals like that, multiple types of birds exist. Why? Most birds do similar things for nature, right? I mean, a cardinal and a canary do more or less the same job in nature. Why was there a need for both of them? There was one island, I forget what island it was, but it has eight different types of the same finch branched off. Yeah, darwin's finch is a good example of that. That's what I was talking about. Why did nature need so many of the same thing? Well, evolution and nature kind of works that way. It uses prototypes that work the best for the environment. If I had a little bit more to go on, I would almost venture to say that maybe if Sasquatch is real, we should probably reevaluate if we are indeed nature's perfect prototype. Another thing that we could go on to, what about the Native Americans like idea of the windigo? Like that kind of window or some kind of curse put on these people that maybe they are human, but they just can't father and I have had the discussion they can't go back. So that would be a nice thing too. If somebody's out there and they don't have they believe that it's the dog man, maybe you feel like it was a windigo or what are the Spanish or sayabra, like that? Kind of like saying, I would like to see something. Yeah, like something like that.

Participant #1:
I know that they're far in between. Like a lot of people say there's different various, especially the El Chupacabra and the window. They always say that it's kind of like the dog man, but I've heard that it had like a deer's head with a huge rack. Like a very big rack. Yeah, that was something interesting. I touched onto the Wendigo topic a little bit. My grandmother was Native American. Wendigo wasn't something that you really discussed a lot. It was kind of a sensitive topic. I don't know if it was a sensitive topic, but it was definitely a topic that deserved respect. You didn't sit there and laugh and joke about when to go. I mean, I hate to say it, but in the same sense that you discuss a Sasquatch, you didn't really regard when to go in the same way. It was more like, just stay away from that. Just leave it alone and don't invoke its name. Because if the window comes, there's a reason why we were talking about the mothman usually shows up to warn people of danger, whereas the windigo usually shows up to set a right to a wrong. Some injustice was done. The Wendigo comes to make it right by nature standards, though not by ours. Our standards are fictional. We make them up. Just like the lines, the state lines, they're not really there. Oh, yeah, but circle back. I remembered what I was going to say. Like, you were saying that in nature, we might not be the actual we might not be not the best prototype. Yeah. The best. Suited for the job. Yeah, suited for the job. I know that you keep going back to it that Sasquatch might have low numbers, but what if it's that they have low numbers because they're just starting out. They're just coming out. And then I want to say give it some time, but over the years, I don't think it would be in any of our lifetimes. I feel like sightings, if this is true, sightings increase, increase more and more and more, especially on to something there, because we don't know their lifespan. Their lifespan could be much longer than ours. If you think about it, we don't know. I mean, this is a natural creature that's obviously more well suited to survive than we are, or it could be less, and that's why we don't see it. What about disease for these things? Do they have cancers? I'm really interested in would they actually have any kind of problem with all the stuff, like electronics going around? You actually just prodded a thought right out of nowhere, it just boom. Just like that. What if they avoid us because we carry disease? There you go. What if they don't want us to find them because we carry I mean, at any given time, we carry microbes. Now we've got the coronavirus. Maybe that's another thing, too, is like, they don't want to attack us. Like, I've always heard that they don't attack us. They always do the bluff charge. The bluff charge? Yeah. Why does a creature that big bluff you? I'm just saying, I know that as a bigger dude, if somebody comes at me with intent yeah. I don't give a crap if you're it doesn't matter if you're smaller than me. I'm like, I'm going to bulldozer right over you. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you're coming at me with a bigger dude. You're like, our battle will be legendary. Yeah. Like, they're going to hear the echoes of our fucking punches. We literally don't know. But yeah, animals can smell disease and sickness. What if they literally can smell all the cold viruses and they can smell the flu viruses? Also, like, the thought of the reason why you don't see them in big areas is the pollution, because that could also cause sickness in them. So that's why they're more in the forest area. That makes sense to me. And that's probably why it's like too, and I will give him this, that there's probably, like, lee. He's probably like how he said that he's been going to the same areas over and over. Yeah, but he's not having real close in contact with these creatures. I think that they are docile. They want to interact with us, but they just don't like, they don't want to risk it because they know they basically like, we're those people stay away from them because maybe their immune system is not built for it could be a whole different a whole different thing. Like, they have to stay I don't know, maybe the germs that we produce personally as a human species, maybe it's not something that they can handle. And they probably interacted with humans over time. And it's like we actually know bob is, like, having this weird skin rash on his face because he's losing all of his hair. He's losing all of his hair. And now bob is naked. Now bob's working in new york, doing taxes, not telling anybody that he's a sasquatch. No, he's just a really big accountant. Really tall dude. He's a big accountant. Andre the giant, he was probably one a sasquatch at one point. He might have been at some point in his life, he decided, I'm going to be a sasquatch because he decided to wrestling billboard, and he was like, I'm leaving the forest, guys. He was breaking bigfoot. He was breaking bigfoot. You know what I mean? I just got reminded that there was an actual wrestler that shrek was based off of. It's like, this huge dude, and it's like he married this really beautiful woman, and this guy is literally it looks like shrek. Off topic, but that's just what it reminded me of. In all honesty, though, like, coming back to the argument, though, the dog man, fascinating topic. There's a lot to sort out, and I plan on going deeper into it. I want to sort out the good and the bad and the ugly.

Participant #1:
It's hard to do a dog man segment without bigfoot being involved. And I have a feeling that because of the frequency and how many sightings of sasquatch there is, and like we were saying, he's our basis he's our basis of comparison. I feel like bigfoot is going to be our kind of, like, model. We're looking at the loch nest monster. We kind of have bigfoot. As our model of comparison, sightings patterns. Yeah, because I feel like out of all the cryptozoology is that how you say it? Yeah, he has some plausible there's possibility there because you kept saying, like, migration patterns, hate behavioral patterns. And what was the other one? You had a third one. I couldn't remember. The other pattern is geological significance or geographical significance. The sightings happen in certain places, certain times. They have a certain area that they're seen in. People frequent that they call it a hot spot. Yeah, that's kind of like what I'm saying. I feel like with that, they have pattern. And you've drilled this into my head for a while now. If there's pattern, there's science, there's some type of science that could be it's done. That's it it paves away from. Yes. So basically sets for us can be our foundations, especially for creatures, creatures in general. If it's something that's like, in nature, I can see it. I can see that to be our basis. I know we're going to be breaking away from creatures for a little bit. I know we've got crop circles coming up. We've got UFO sightings coming up. We've got a witches tree coming up that we're going to be going into. We've got some remarkable stories of extraterrestrial encounters, loch Ness Monster, we've got some haunted sites, things like that. There's lots of stuff coming up, so it'll be nice to take a kind of a break from creatures for a little bit. I'm hoping we get somebody who wants to get on here and chew the fat with us about this a little bit. But I'll just say this. Where are you, dog man? We need to know if you've had a dog man siding. If you're sure. Maybe you're not sure. Maybe things just didn't add up for you. Something crazy happened. You can't explain it. Reach out to us, encounters, kyxfiles.com, let us know, and we'll do our best to try to understand with you and hopefully all you guys that subscribed already. I'm blown away. Thank you. Thank you so much. Didn't expect it. We thought, hey, we're doing this, we're having fun. We're talking about stuff that we, like, didn't realize how fast you guys would jump on here and join us on this. So that's really mind blowing. We want to do a lot more. Oh, yeah. Do we have, like, a Facebook or anything, like, set up yet? No Facebook yet. We have a website. Okay, we got a website. We got the YouTube and stuff. But, yeah, like, everybody that subscribed right now, come on, just give us something. Give us something. Give us something to talk about. It doesn't matter what you have. Just busy, keep us busy. What's been on your mind lately? Tell us your monster of the week. How are you today? Yeah, how are you? Tell us if you heard a really crazy story that you've been itching to talk to somebody about even if it's dumb. I'm up for anything. I don't care. I've been looking up vampires, like trolls. Dude, I want to hear a troll story. I'm trying to pin one down right now. It's a lady who collects haunted dolls because I love the topic. I love it. I don't know why. I just think that haunted dolls are just awesome. And I want to know more. I want to know why a person wants to collect them. I kind of want to collect them. And I don't know why. Not living in the house anymore. Stay tuned, guys. There's going to be a lot more coming up. We're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to enjoy this. It's going to be great. We're going to spend some time at this. If you haven't noticed already. We don't really take a real hard stance either way it goes. We like to kind of feel our way through it and kind of weigh the options. And if something is blatantly fake, I feel like it's going to find its way to the surface. It'll show us if something is real again. It's going to find its way to the surface as being real. It'll show us. It'll show us the way. We're going to spend our time weighing thing. We want to take that approach with all of this stuff. So tell us your stories. Send it in. Don't hesitate. We will not make fun of you. We're not going to get you on here and put you on the spot. We just want to hear your story. We want to try to help you. And if we can't help you, maybe somebody else out there listening can. And with that being said, I want you to sleep good tonight. Get comfortable. There's little bumps in the night. Probably nothing.