S118: Dogman or Dog Soldier? (AUDIO FIXED!)

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Something that would be in the context of the superheroes. He described as being a great silverlooking upright Bible creature. Dragging a deer out of that taste one appeals. Hey, I got a question for you. Do you believe in demons? And it takes one big step and vanishes. I'm like, oh, my God, that was a big thing. Look at these pictures of this white creature. Something seven foot three, eight foot tall,

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and he was running like a man. Now, when it stood up, that's when I knew it was a dog man.

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Welcome back, guys. Tonight we are going to discuss a topic that we kind of touched a little base on in previous episodes. I know we had one guest that told us about her encounters, and we actually have a couple of people that are actually going to her place to investigate. We're going to talk about the dog man into the old dog man. I just feel like we kind of compiled some stuff. There's not that much literature on this topic. It's more just encounters. It's just like you don't see the mass amounts of research that's been going in. Like in Sasquatch. I was going to say that dog man is man. I'm still standing by my guns on this one from a long time ago. It's a can of worms. There's a lot of witnesses and several very popular shows on YouTube and Spotify, places like that. Not a whole lot of I'll take some blurry dog man pictures at this point, you know what I mean? I'm ready. Let me see. It's just so terrible because every time you go on to any kind of website that has anything about this stuff, they have pictures of what it might look like, and it's from like a movie or something like that. And it just makes it not believable because you're giving me a picture that's from a movie. So I would like a blurry picture. It would at least give me some kind of basis. You know what I kept thinking earlier? I was thinking about this very thing, and I almost thought, you know how you see when you research bigfoot, you see things like blurry pictures, video, blurry video, and then sometimes we can dissect it and we can find stuff. And I started thinking, is that because if you think you saw a bigfoot, is there more of an all feeling? You know what I mean? Like, what the hell am I seeing? And then you actually try but listen to a lot of, like, dog man encounters, you always get to sense that there's like an immediate just fear. And I always wondered, is that what's going on? Is that why we're not seeing? You know what I mean? A lot of stuff. I know there's audio out there. There's a lot of audio, and I've listened to some of it. It's pretty creepy. You can find it if you look. It's pretty wild. But I've seen a lot of pictures of woods and an area where they enhance the photo and show there's a weird shape in it. I'll admit there's some that are pretty well, Kansas has some really good ones. We saw some of her good ones, and there was a couple in there where I had to sit there for a second and just kind of go, the hell is that? It's interesting. It's really interesting. But there's so many sightings. There's so many reports. You can't help at one. Yeah. And there's not any kind of as much research for how many sightings. There's not that much research out there for it because I personally have not I hope somebody's out there that can say that I'm wrong, but I haven't even seen a casting of a footprint of what they would say is a dog man foot. I think I've seen a couple of those. I've actually seen pictures of people have gaston. Hey, speaking of that, we have a guest. I want to say in the next couple of episodes, I'm not sure when we're going to get the scheduling down, but they're actually doing a documentary on this very subject. It's actually called the dog man project, and I literally don't know any more about it than that. I wanted to learn about this cold boar when we talked to the guy. I want to literally hear it from him, what it entails and what they're planning on doing, and I'm really excited. Yeah, I remember you talking about that. I'm really excited about that, too. Just like I feel like the first episode of Kentucky X files, we came into this with sasquatch cold war, too. Pretty much. Really didn't know that much. And I feel like this guy is going to be our lead to our dog man. Yeah, I'm really excited because he's going to put us in that door to try to teach us some stuff. Educate us. Yeah, educate us. But still, I feel like we've gotten to that point where we've kind of made some kind of our own conclusions of what the dog man could be. It's frustrating for me because I think we've talked about it countless times. The sasquatch, it's a probable thing, like a creature like that could live side by side another humanoid creature that could live side by side with us, that's given fact that could happen, there's a higher probability of it. But the dog man, what caused this to go further? The only thing that and I know people depicted as a very giant wolf, but the only thing that was really big was the direwolf, and I don't think it's not depicted as that big. I feel like we Pillish it on a lot of things, but there's a lot. The one thing that gets me is when we were tracking Louis through Kentucky, on a little side note, I started another map, which was dog man sightings. And when you kind of took the map of Louie and you kind of, like, laid it over top of the dog man sightings, it almost looked like Louie was avoiding those areas, you know what I mean? Like he was purposefully not going through those areas. In some of those sightings, it wasn't just one dog man reported. It was multiples. You know what I mean? Yeah, I got the feeling from it when I looked at it that it was almost as if they were sitting in ambush. They were waiting. And I couldn't help but think about Louie and think, what were they? Were they waiting for him? What were they doing? Some of the movement patterns, when you look at it, you see where the dog men are, and in conjunction to, say, supposedly abandoned military bases, that made me raise my eyebrows there. Then there's other theories. There's Native American beliefs and shapeshifters and skinwalkers. That's another one you hear about a lot, and they're depicted very similar to the description of the dog man. And recently you start talking about there's some out there that believe there's a distinction between a werewolf and a dog man. And as soon as they say that, that puts the werewolf piece on the board. So now we have that why or how is the werewolf different from a dog man? Those are all questions that I want to eventually figure out. I remember hearing from some other investigators that they say the reason why they called the dog man, because most of the encounters, they say that these creatures look like your average dog, but standing on a tin legs, bipedal, and it doesn't look like your typical werewolf. A lot of people say it looks like what was it? The

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German shepherd? Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah. And what's the other one? That Rottweiler. Either rottweiler or doberman pincher. I can't remember which. I think the Doberman Pincher, the one that looks like anubis I want to say more. I feel like they depicted more beefier, like more stocky, not skinny. I know, too, if you think about this one, too, the Native Americans, they're skinwalkers and shapeshifters that were upright. I want to just call them upright. Canines were mostly wolf.

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It was a wolf. It was like a wolf man. So I think that's interesting, too. It's like each one of those stories is a little bit different, but has similarities. Now me and you have put in some serious miles in regards to Vic conduct's dog man encounters. We have listened to hundreds of episodes, I believe, and the goal in mind was to try to find a pattern and try to see something, and I think we found a few. The one that got me the most was I think it's kind of one that's on a lot of people's mind is, why did no one ever seems to get injured or hurt? Another one was the smiling or smirking. I know we've heard that one. It's several encounters. I can't help it. I always get the feeling of when I hear that, I always get the feeling of, like, a superiority complex. I am literally bigger than you. I am stronger than you. I am faster than you. I'm better than you in every way. I could do anything right now, and you can't do anything about it. Blah, blah, blah. And then the other thing about the patterns was it's almost as if it's self testing, trying to push its own limits, see what it can do and what it can't do with every encounter too. It seems like a lot of, like, if you compare them to the normal encounters of a Sasquatch to a dog man, the Sasquatch seems more territorial. Like, hey, I'll throw a rock at you. I'll make grunting sounds to try to get you to leave. Right. When somebody else talks about a dog man sighting, it's more like if you see him, he wanted you to see him because it's more of a mind game. It seems that he's playing a mind game. And that's another thing, too, is that is, like, kind of a wolf, so to speak, kind of traits. I'm not saying that the mind game thing is a werewolf trade, but I'm just saying, like, they do the sneakiness, the cunning yeah, the cunningness of a wolf and stuff. But I know, like, dogs can do that because they're linked to them, to a wolf, so they have that built into them. But the crazy thing is, whatever you guys believe out there, believe it, because there's no real science on this yet to prove or disprove anything yet. You guys are seeing something out there, and we're just trying to put some of the pieces that we can see here from our side. I keep believing that it has to be flesh and blood so I can't physically see anything shape shifting into something. I'm having a hard time believing that part. Right.

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It demands a lot of imagination for me to go that route, the shape shifting part and all that. Now, like you said, there are some beliefs, especially Native American culture, that shapeshifting is a very real thing, and it's a very powerful thing. And I even heard in some cultures it was a gift that some men had to assist in hunting during hard times. And that's interesting, but you were just talking about making a science of the dog man. Guess what I got for you. I have an opportunity for me and you to go to a farm and possibly set up our mics and record, hopefully, what may or may not be a dog man or Sasquatch

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you got to do if we want to get some type of science behind it. We got to try and we got to do our research. We got to get that stuff on film or audio. That's the case. Me and my wife, we have a couple of family friends. They have their own farm, and they're actually fans of the show. I don't, as of right now, have their permission to use their name. So I'm going to leave them ambiguous, but let's say I'm sure they're going to hear this and we're really excited to come out. They've heard some weird things and they've experienced some real things, some weird things, including some odd sounds. The Whooping or whatever, they've heard that and they've been brought at. And they really want us to bring our mics, set them up and see if we can capture these sounds because apparently they hear them often. So if we go out there and we set up, I think we could get lucky. I don't know. Okay, so hopefully I would like to see if we could get them to sit down with us. Maybe we'll kind of set up Mike's point out yeah, that'd be great. And let it capture any kind of noise so we can recall later. But I would like to see if we could talk to your friends. Absolutely. Just kind of go through the day to day. Like, how many times do they hear today?

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I feel like I've gotten to that point where how many times does it feel threatening? Did you have that feeling of dreadful? There's questions? Because still, if you guys wanted to go back, there is a cryptid theory on our YouTube channel called Feeling of Dread, or The Sounds of Dread, I think it is. It's a little segment that we've been starting to do on our YouTube channel. It's like small little clips. It's called crypto theories. And it was about the infrasound. Yes. That's something that I feel like it's a theory that I want to put in play. We need to keep going with that just because we throw out theories, we like to see them in action. Absolutely. And I want to try to see if we can get more encounters and actually see if this is a plausible thing. This infrastructure thing. It's a crazy thing. I feel like we always say this. We have a big puzzle, and I feel like the picture is white and the puzzle pieces, all we have to go off of is like the shape of the puzzle pieces. It's hard and it's difficult to put this together. I can't stress it enough. We need you guys out there to help us out. We're investigating on this side. We're just throwing out ideas. But we're only two guys. We've said that countless times. We're only two guys. We need your help just as much as, yeah, we need your help. You know what? Speaking of encounters and whatnot did digging today, talked to my cousin and I told him about the Campbell county encounter that we were discussing from the Kentucky Bigfoot organization. Speaking of another side point, the Kentucky Bigfoot organization founder has agreed to come on the show and talk to us. Yeah, it's wild. It went from, I wonder if we're going to get anybody to talk to us to now, holy crap, we're getting to talk to all these wonderful people. This is amazing. But starting to get sidetracked. They are really excited. That local encounter, the one just outside Alexandria, we were actually looking at a map before about it. My cousin said that he may be able to help us with that one. He thinks that he knows some people or who to ask to get us in the right direction. Yeah, that's awesome. It's very cool. But to try to circle back to what we originally started talking about, it's the Dog man. We both probably said the same thing. We think it's flesh and blood. Yeah, ours are like I can't say this is my theory, but it is creepy to the core because it actually lends a lot to it. It's in the realm of flesh and blood and it's terrifying to actually believe that this could happen. Why don't you tell him what you think the Dog man could be? Okay. I know there's going to be some people out there who I've briefly discussed an outline of this with, and I'm solely placing this I'm solely basing this whole theory on a series of encounters that I looked up and marked them on a map. And when I went back out of the map and looked, all of the encounters were relatively near military bases and military training camps, things like that. And another thing that popped up was much later I actually listened to a Dog man encounter. I guess it would have been a first hand account. And this person described a pack of dog men moving in almost a military formation. And I got to thinking, why would that be? Why are the encounters near basis? Why do they move the way they do? Why do they constantly test themselves? Why the superiority complex? Why is it maybe because they are some military weapon that we've bred? I mean, I know our scientists, our government has had the patents on human animal hybridization for years, decades. So did they grow one? Another encounter I listened to, someone had said that they witnessed one dog man, a larger black dog man that sort of reminded him of a Doberman pincher, much bigger and stronger kill. A slightly smaller, more German shepherd looking dog man. Again, I went back to my theory and I thought, what are we getting rid of the old prototypes, replace them with the new? What better way to test them? Are these stronger? Are they faster? Or was that a defector? Was that an AWOL? Does that happen? Do they get off the leash? No pun intended. Some reports have said when an encounter happens a military force or government group shows up out of nowhere, takes care of it. I've heard of trail cams Seeing their memory cards. I've heard of a lot of different stuff. Now, based on this, and all I can think is the government breeding them? Are we training them? And what for? Why do you need them? Then I started thinking a lot about the whole werewolf thing, and I thought, well, you definitely don't want to breed a werewolf hybrid of a human. Because wolves are wild. They're visceral. They're not fully tameable. You could domesticate a wolf, but you'll never get the wildness and unpredictability out of them. But a dog, that's a different story. A dog you can train, a dog you can love. And is there someone training them, and does someone love them? Who's giving them the commands? Who's telling them, do not hurt civilians. Do what you want, but don't hurt civilians because they never do. They don't turn on our citizens. For some reason. They're right there. They're bigger, they're stronger. They're predators. Nope. They hunt deer. They scare a lot of scott livestock. Like I said, it makes you wonder, and it makes you start Thinking A lot more. There's been a couple of encounters that we've heard that they've said that these dog men Are part of the military. It is a military project. That's what we're trying to say is that we kind of think that they are being bred, because we're not saying that these are super soldiers in a sense of they give them a serum, and they turn into dog men. We're thinking that they literally just put the pieces together. When they're

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we got to start that over. My bad.

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I lost it.

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Okay. It's not like Your typical super soldier where you inject them and it turns into a dog man. It's more that they breed it from an infant to an adult. Yeah. And another thing, too, is I just now Kind of realized this, how fast a dog kind of matures in its way. That rapid growth. Remember, it's like, one week old. A puppy is, like, super small, and then it just blows up within that first year. I always wonder about the longevity. Do they age or like dogs? That's true. When does a dog man or a dog soldier when does a dog soldier finally retire? How does it retire? Does it get to go to a game reserve and live there unbothered? Now, there's another thing. I've heard of reports where there was large areas of woods, government owned woods that was 1516 foot tall, fences around it. Why? What's in there? What are we keeping out of the public eye? Is that an entire home? Yeah. And going back to these sightings, too, they say, doberman pincher. What's the other dog? German shepherd. These are two dogs that they've used in military law enforcement. These dogs are known for obeying orders. Yeah. All they have to do is put a little time in training these, and you know for a fact the military is so strict that they can probably do this. Okay, here's the theory on top of this, what if these werewolves that were seeing that people are seeing, what if that was the beginning? They did hybridization with the werewolf gene. They couldn't control it, it broke out, and they're breeding on their own, like, say that there was more than that and they are breeding on their own. I feel like that's a huge stretch, huge jump. But that's a possibility if we're going in that direction. Right? Yeah. Everything's kind of on the table. Yeah. And like you were saying, too, what are the purpose? Was it just because I understand we are human, we love power, we do things just because we want to show our ass, just because we can while we did it. Like, if we did do it or what is their purpose? Do they send these overseas? I remember you were saying that there isn't an account of Nazi soldiers saying that they were being attacked, or was it actual American soldiers back in World War II being attacked by doglike creatures? Sure. Yeah. I got a comment here on our YouTube channel from a guy named Earl Wright who says, I'm not sure that we humans created the dog. Man. There are so many stories from hundreds of years ago of people encountering them. He said, the government may be using them, but I don't think we created it. And I responded to him. I said, I think we might have made our own version of them, but it's all a theory. And his reply ended up being, that's true, but I don't think any of us in the unwashed masses truly do know yet. We truly don't. It's hard to put a stamp on this. Like, how do we truly know until we have one right in front of us, there is no way to actually give a definitive answer. Yeah. We're all stumbling around the dark hoping that we'd find something. Absolutely. I feel like I want to lean more towards this approach because it shows some tangible evidence of being true. Sure.

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I'm not going to say that shapeshifters can't be real. I don't know that culture. I don't live in that type of I've never been raised in that type of culture. That type of stuff could not be I probably don't see it because I'm not accustomed to it. So that's the thing. I don't know. I can't tell you that I don't believe you when I don't know. But all we got to do is just kind of throw back and forth. Maybe we'll meet in some common ground. It's crazy, but this thing the encounters is showing that the military seems like it's definitely using these for some reason. Yes. It's interesting. I can't seem to get my mind off of this theory. I keep coming back to it. Every week, some new piece of information comes to light. It all just keeps reminding me of this and bringing me back to this. I've somewhat avoided researching too heavily in the Dog man. I've kind of felt like I've had my hands full with the big guy lately. And if I'm being honest, I thought, well, I want to get to a good spot with the big man where I can actually just change gears and switch over to this and just dig into the dog man. That's why I'm really excited for the guys making the dog man project to talk to us. I really think it would be a great place to start, actually, one on one with this person, understand what the documentary is about, what kicked it off, what started it, where the inspiration is coming from. And then I really am excited to have kind of an anchor point just to drop anchor and start digging. Maybe he can confirm or deny some of our theories. Like, maybe he can give us some light if we're heading in the right direction. Absolutely. I would love to hear that,

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guys. I would love for you guys to comment. Send us something. What do you guys believe it is? Yeah, I'd really like to hear it. Yeah, I want to hear it. Even if you don't have a theory on that, what do you think? What might be your theory on what could they be used for? I have a little other thing too. I've said it before to Denny. If this is true, I think they might be using it to fight the Sasquatch, because there has been encounters that I've heard that these things, they fought. Yes, they don't like each other. They don't like each other. So I don't know if that takes me back to another encounter we listened to where there was a dog man on the property and a family of Sasquatch, I guess, took it out. I can't remember all the details of it. I'm sure somebody listened to it. Most of the encounters you hear about too, when the two different ones are together, it's always in a clash. It's always some you know, there's some reason, you know, like some battle going on. And that's another thing too. It's like if these are military and they have a short leash, then the military is actually knowing that they are attacking Sasquatch. So that's kind of like what my little theory is on that. I know you're saying, why don't they attack humans? Yeah.

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Thousands upon thousands of people go missing every year. Sure. Are they of all of the sightings or encounters, less than 1% have any kind of violent interaction. And I find that to be strange. You know what I mean? Even remember a while back, we decided to check out a I'm not going to drop a name, but we decided to check out a podcast that was dedicated to the Wendigo subject and these folks had stories of Wendigo. Right. The first thing I said when I heard it was Wendigo is cannibal. It's a bloodthirsty killer. If you're telling the story, then I'm going to have a hard time believing that you were there, because that thing will hunt you down. Yeah. It's not a flesh and blood creature, that this is a spiritual it's almost like a demonic yeah, I thought was it was almost like a forest demon. This thing is yeah, it twists the legends. Go. If somebody turns to cannibalism, it curses them to be hungry forever, and all they crave is, like, I guess, human flesh. Right. Yeah. The first person point of view, I can't help but go, well, clearly you're mistaken, because you're telling the story. Yeah, it might be real, but like I said, that seems a little eyewitness accounts seem a little bit far fetched. I just have a hard time believing that someone's going to produce a picture of the window. How are they going to get away from it? It's apparently nothing to be messed with. The Native Americans don't take the Wendigo subject very lightly at all. It's a very, very sobering subject to even speak of. My grandmother was very against talking about it. It's one of them subjects where I don't know what to think when I hear stuff like that. Maybe I was mistaken an entertaining story for an actual encounter. It could be my mistake, put it that way. That could be on me. I just wonder. But when I listen to the dog man encounters, it's literally less than 1% of all of the encounters, and you got to look at how many there are and think of that. Less than 1% out of all of those. Yeah, that's true. It seems like a lot of the actual if there's any type of injury or fatality I wouldn't say a fatality. Just wouldn't be able to counter. But any type of attack or something of that. There was one where a guy actually got he said that he got slashed, like the chest. Yeah. He was in between the dog man and a Sasquatch fighting. Right? Yes. So I can see that. Or if I say this too, it's like maybe their normal objective, just like any good dog trainer, and I know that I was just thinking about this. Okay. Any person that trains their dog, they have one word that they do not discuss with anybody that will like their dog is normally calm and collective, but that one word will set them off if that person is in danger. That's the business word. Yes, that's the business word in that way. I know you know it because I remember you told me about it, but you never disclosed that word for me. And I get that's basically a key for you and you alone. And what I keep thinking is maybe they use them for very small operations like ops. If they. Need somebody taken out, right. They give them that command and that's it. But period of time, it's just normal business. I kept thinking, too, that I mean, for one thing, in all the encounters, there's one thing that keeps coming to mind, is like livestock, dogs, they all react to it. It's not the same reaction as Sasquatch. And this is a reoccurring pattern, by the way, with Sasquatch, dogs and animals tend to go dead silent, as if they don't want it to know they're there. They want to be as quiet as possible. Whereas in the dog man encounters, dogs go crazy. There's a famous encounter out there about a dog versus a dog man, which I highly recommend listening to. If anybody out there is interested, I'm sure you can find it. Like I said, I want to name drop anybody, but I'm sure you can find it. Another thing, too, is like, the livestock. Anytime it's near or around the livestock, the livestock goes apeshit. These animals don't go dead silent. They freak out. Yeah, it's almost as if they're confused by what they're observing or sensing. So there's another little interesting pattern that you kind of see over and over again. It kind of goes a little bit into that whole infrastructure thing, too. It's something that the Sasquatch does that the dog man can't. Yeah, I actually wondered about that one myself. Was the dog man can't do it or what? If the dog band would a Sasquatch aim at a dog man? Would he use it on one? How does that work? Yeah, would it work or what? Because it shouldn't be all too dissimilar. I mean, it should react to different frequencies. It should still react to that. But if it's like a human, it wouldn't be as intense as it would for another animal. The dog man might get that feeling of dread, but I feel like it has too much energy. Like a dog like a dog would freak out, right? Sure. So wouldn't it do the same? I don't know. It would start to freak out and get enraged. That thing is there if it's doing that.

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Yeah. Further research is going to be needed, I think. I mean, that's the only thing we can do. Anybody out there listen to us. If you have anything you want to add, definitely send it to us. If you had an encounter, send it to us at Encounters@kyxfiles.com. Always ready to listen. We'd love to hear your opinions. And I just want to get some more eyes and ears on the subject. Personally. Everybody writing and commenting. I've been learning so much. Amazing. Just a wonderful group of people, very excited to know them. I don't think they know how valuable they are as far as everything, I mean, just learning, just getting information and sending us emails and whatnot. Sometimes I feel like my lead has gone cold. I don't have anything, and I feel kind of stuck and then I'll read one of the emails and I get a different point of view. And that's what we need. We need lots of different points of views. And I think that's the only way we're ever going to figure all this out, guys. But yeah. Well, guys, I guess that will kind of wrap it up. Sorry for the shorter episode this week.

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We got a lot of stuff. If you were listening through the whole thing, we kind of speckled it with all the stuff that's coming up. Like, a lot of guests coming up,

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guys. Always keep searching. Everybody who's commented on the YouTube and all the new subscribers that have come over there. Wow. Guys are amazing. I can't believe it. What was the other thing? Oh, yeah, 1000 downloads in one month, guys. Wow. It's a new slogan. It's all I can say. Just wow. Beyond I don't even know what to say. I'm beyond words. We should have a little emoji now it's just the Owen Wilson hey, wow. Honestly, man, I was blown away by that. That's what got me. It hit 1000 downloads in a month. And I was like, Are you kidding me? And then it kept going. Yes. I'm afraid to even look right now. I think I'll have a heart attack if it's any higher than it is. So, yeah, guys, you guys are amazing. Thank you so much for supporting us and being there to every step of the way. Thanks for joining us on this journey, man. So we'll see you next week. Yeah, see you next week. Hell, yeah.