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We followed up with Josh and asked if he would get us in touch with his friend Kevin , who has had some amazing encounters - and has been on the quest for truth ever since! We had an extraordinary amount of problems while recording this - almost as if...
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something that would be in the context of the super. He described as being a great silverlooking upright bible creature dragging a deer out of that cave. Going uphill. I got a question for you. Do you believe in demons? And it takes one big step and vanishes. I'm like, oh, my God. That was a bigfoot look at these pictures of this white creature, something seven foot three, eight foot tall, and this bear was standing on his hind legs and he was running like a faith. Now, this was no bear. Now, when it stood up, that's when I knew it was a dog, man.
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All right, welcome back, everybody. You're back. Obviously listening to the Kentucky X Files again. This would be episode 17. And real quick, before we go on, we have a couple of things tonight. First things first, I need to address maybe a bit of misinformation on my behalf from episode 16, Angie and Fish's story. I thought they were inside their tent when they had their encounter. I recently talked to Angie and she corrected it, saying that, no, they were actually still sitting in the chair outside of their tent, which hearing that makes the whole story for me personally a whole lot scarier, if I'm being honest. Another thing I wanted to address is you guys have been blown me away with reaching out all the support on the YouTube channel, the podcast, very encouraging words. I just have no words to express the gratitude for that. And I thank you. Another thing here is we got an email sent to us, ty, and it's from Mr. Greg Burkhart. He said he didn't know if his encounters were worthy of an episode, but let me start over. I picked her up in the background. Another thing that came in was an email came through our email that we set up for encounters, and it's from a Mr. Greg Burkhart. He didn't believe that his story was worthy of an episode, but I would really like to just go ahead and read this so that everybody out there knows that, you know what, your encounter is definitely worth an episode. It's worth the time to sit and listen.
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There's no way for us to do this and shut people down. So if you have an encounter, definitely follow Greg's example, send it in to us. If you want to be on the show, we worked it out with you. That'd be awesome. If you don't want to be on the show, an email will suffice and we'll make sure that we take the time and read it. I'm going to go and read Greg's real quick. And everybody out there, let me know in the comments or send us an email, let us know what you think. And if you've had any, anything like this, we'd love to know. We'd love to hear about it. So here we go. Hey there guys. I've never really told anyone these stories before except for the people who are with me and some of them. So bear with me and I'll try lol a little background. I've been in Stewart County all my life. I grew up hunting, fishing and working on the farms. I used to coon hunt all the time. I would go a lot by myself. One night when I was in the land between the legs, hunting by myself, I was just leaning up against a tree and listening to my dogs running a track when down the holler below me I started seeing lights. Blue green colors. At first I thought maybe I was seeing things. Then it dawned on me it was probably foxfire. Some folks call it Will of the Whisp. I vaguely recall seeing it years ago when I was much younger while out coon hunting one night. But then this started moving through the air. Fox fire doesn't float, at least not that I'm aware of. And it changed colors. It was more like orbs or softball sized circles. The hair stood up on my neck. Sorry, I'm going to start that. The hair stood up on the back of my neck and I got my ass back to the truck and hauled ass out of there. I went around the ridge to catch my dogs and I've never went back. Now I work on the river. We push barges up and down the river. I run several different rivers. Ohio River, Tennessee River, Cumberland River I got off the boat one time, probably 20 years ago and me and my ex wife were riding around in my jeep in the land between the lakes. We were around Panther Creek and something very tall and dark crossed the road in front of us right at dusk. Neither of us said anything at night. We went straight to bed. I turned off the light and about 2 minutes later she said what was that? I said, I have no idea. But now I think I do know. I was on a boat running the Cumberland River once and my pilot went through the Dover area that night on his watch. When I got up the next morning and went to relieve him he said man, I didn't know you all had bears here. I laughed and said we don't. He said bullshit. I saw one last night. I put the spotlight right on it. He was freaking huge. He was standing up trying to reach something in a tree and it looked like oh, he was standing let me start to set this whole paragraph over. I fucked this all up. He was freaking huge. He was standing up trying to reach something in a tree, it looked like. I told him the bears are in East Tennessee and we do not have any. He said, whatever, dude. I saw a big one last night at Gatlin Shoals, which is Gatlin point in Land Between the Lakes. So what did he see? Who knows? Another time on the Cumberland River, it got really foggy, so I sent my crew out ahead to catch a line on a tree. If I could get close enough. One of the guys hollered on the radio and told me that something was screaming at them. Of course I thought he was joking around and kept letting it go to the bank. Of course I thought he was joking around and kept letting it go towards the bank. Then he started yelling at me to go, go, go. Please, captain, go. Something is throwing rocks and screaming at us. Again, I thought he was joking. Then I see their flashlights coming back towards the boat and him still telling me to get the hell out of there. So I pulled back and started back upriver. They came to the pilot house and were almost in tears telling me about it. When they went back out to the barges later, they brought back a round rock that was a little bit bigger than a softball. There's no way they could have got that rock and put it on there because I never got close enough to the bank. I was having trouble just trying to get them to tie us off after that lol. Two years ago in the mountains of North Georgia, my wife and I were in a cabin sitting by a fire. I was drinking a beer and messing around with her and I let out a whoop sound. I was immediately answered. Last week we were back in North Georgia in a different cabin. I was sitting outside around midnight listening to the water and the sounds. All of a sudden I hear what sounded like a major league baseball player smack a major home run. That loud crack sound. I thought what I heard was my first woodnock. I've never heard anything else like that night. Well, those are my main encounters, if you can call them that. I've never had a face to face, but I really believe that those things were the big man of the woods, except for the lights. I still don't know what to think about them. You guys take care and I'm really enjoying listening to your channel. Lots of luck in the future. Greg Burkhardt. Wow. It's crazy, man. That is a handful of wild shit going on the river, right? Yeah. Especially land between the lakes area. Holy crap. Thank you, Greg. We appreciate it, man. Yeah, thanks, man. It's super cool to put your trust in us. Yeah. I got a little surprise, but I don't know if you personally have you heard any of the orbs encounters, like sightings in the Land Between the Lakes? Personally? I've only personally just recently started looking into the orb thing. I didn't know what to think. Of it, but, man, it is coming up over and over again. Yeah, there has to be something, like something to that. Everybody has their own speculation on what it could be, but I'm having a tough time trying to figure it out. I know we went over it a couple of times where it could have been some type of shaman that's doing these, like, kind of like something that's like a ritual type of thing, or some people think that these orbs are actual sasquatch because they say that the creature can shape shift. I've heard that, too. Yeah, they can change shapes. What was the story where they said that there was a guy, two groups of guys hunting. One group saw wasn't that Robert that told us about this? One group saw a deer. The other guys from the other side of the forest saw the big guy, and they were looking at the same area, but they saw two different things. That right there. I don't know what to think of it, but it makes me wonder, just what the hell are we dealing with? What the hell is this thing? What is this thing? The only other thing on the agenda tonight is we have a guest to talk to, ty, and his name is Kevin Wright. The last time we heard about this guy was actually through his friend Joshua grierson, who was on one of our other episodes on the trail of the Dog man. And Joshua is still out there looking. By the way. If anybody around this area needs his eyes on something, definitely let us know, and we'll put you in touch with him. So we asked him if we could speak to his buddy. He said, you know what? My buddy would love to talk to you. So I guess let's give him a call and see what he has to say. I'm excited.
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Hello? Hello? Is this Kevin? Yeah, this is him. Hey, can you hear us okay? Yeah, I can hear you all right. Okay. This is Denny and Tyler from Kentucky x Files. I'm glad to get to speak with you gentlemen. Yeah, man, I've been really looking forward to this. So I know a couple of your stories. I think your buddy Josh mentioned them. He kind of went over them a little bit. He didn't really flush them out. He kind of just told us of the stories. But we got a couple of messages reaching out, wanting to know more about the guy he's talking about, you know what I mean? So we thought it'd be really cool to get you on here and maybe talk squatch with you for a little bit. Oh, I would love to. I love talking about the big guy. Hell, yeah. So can you tell us a little bit about yourself, man? How long you been interested in this? Well, all my life. I've kind of grew up thinking, hearing stories about bigfoot, but I didn't honestly believe them, and I wanted to. But my dad, he was a avid hunter. He taught me and my little brother how to hunt. Spent many days out in the woods, and I never really came across anything, you know, no footprints or nothing like that. I always had hope that I would see one. Yeah. And then it was november of 2005. I just happened to be living in lee county, virginia. Okay. And I had a 150 acre farm. That I was allowed to hunt on, and that was my first time ever seeing one. Really? What was that like? It humbled me. It scared me to my core. Up until I saw him, I thought I was one of the bad guys walking through the woods. I had a gun in my hand. I wasn't scared of nothing until that day. Wow. And I don't know if I have my beliefs. That maybe he just showed himself to show me. No, you're not the meanest man walking. No kidding. And when I saw him, it put my life in a whole new perspective. And after I saw him, I just kind of got more and more into it. But I really started back in 2016. I started just trying to read and listen to every story and every account and all the information Coming out about bigfoot. Absolutely. So, the encounter, how did it go down? I mean, was it the bluff charge, or did he just kind of pop out to you? No, honestly, I was walking from one hunting spot. I was walking through the open field. Now, the hunting area back there, the guy that allowed me to hunt there, he had cattle on that property. Okay. So I was walking through the field, going to another hunting spot, and my dad always told me, I'm a little brother growing up. He said, people don't rely on it a lot, but if something's looking at you, you can feel it. Yeah. And I was walking through. I had a 243 in my hand. I decided it in. I'd already taken a couple of deer at 200 yards with it, so I know the rifle was on. It was ready to go. And I just walked through her. And I was about 70ft to my right. Or about 70 yards to my right, was four strands of barbed wire. And on the other side of that barbed wire is very thick trees and brush. And it's the trees that has the thorns on it. It's not a place that you can easily walk into. And as I was heading over there, I got this sudden feeling like something is watching me. Now, I heard stories over there. I know cows. The coyotes were real bad in that area. I shoot them every chance I got to get one because there were tons of them. I thought it was either the cows or the panther that everybody talked about. I hadn't seen it. Yeah, I seen it in the following year. And I started looking around, and I honestly looked over him. The first time I went, I looked that way. And then when I came back, I seen him, and I was like, what am I looking at? And it looked like a man, and he was built like a man. It's the biggest man that I had ever seen in my life at first, and I realized, Whoa. So I'm a veteran, and then I went through basic training at Fort Benning, Georgia, out of this infantry, and one of the most stable shooting positions you can get in is the prone shooters position. Right. Well, I got down and looked at him through a scope, and his brow was scrunched up like he was concentrating on me. I got the feeling that he knew what I could do with that gun, and he kind of startled him that I would do it. That's why I believe he just wanted to show himself to let me know, oh, no, you're not the best hunter out here. Yeah. But as soon as I quit looking at him through the scope and just looking at him with my regular eyes, I could tell he like his forehead softened up. I got the feeling he was just as curious of me as I was of him. Now. I was still scared. I mean, I was shaking. It bothered me, something that big to be there. And we looked at each other. I saved the whole interaction maybe 30, 45 seconds. Yes. And he just took I watched him take three steps back, and it was like he just faded right into the trees and stuff. I mean, the brush behind him now, this is a thick brush. It takes you half an hour to go more than 50 yards. Yes. And he just disappeared into it. Now, I'm not saying that he was like, the predator and cloaked himself or nothing. It was just he blended in so good to the brush that I lost sight of him. And I laid there for, I don't know, 1015 minutes, just shaking. Oh, man. And I got up and just kind of slowly walked over to the tree. Now, the tree that he was standing beside of has a lower branch that straight above the bottom wire. Now, I would hang my deer up there to cut them up, and his eyeballs was level with that bottom branch, and I would say he was right at ten foot off the ground. That's a big boy right there. Oh, he was a big one. I told people when I first started, I didn't know much about bigfoot at the time. I just seen the stuff on YouTube. Really didn't get into it that much until then. And I told people, I said he looked like he's £800 or more. Kind of takes over from that point, doesn't it? What? I said, Once you have something weird happen like that, it sort of takes over from there. I mean, it changes you. Yes, it does. And people said, I hear stories about bigfoot hurting people and stuff. About two weeks later, I was up in the tree hunting. And I knew there was going to be some deer popping over the ridge, coming right up in front of me. But no more than 100 yards away. They were like clockwork. And I'm not what you would call a trophy hunter. I've got $1 on my wall and it's eleven point and it was more. He stepped out in front of me and I just shot him. I don't go out here looking for big bucks and all that. I wouldn't pass up the opportunity I wanted to meet for me and my family. And I was sitting there and there's some brush about 30 yards to my right. Now I was up in the fork. Lightning hit a beach tree and one of the forks on the tree fell down. Just made me a natural tree stand. I was just sitting there and I could see something. Now the brush off to my left was probably about four and a half 5ft tall. And I'm five foot seven. You could have seen me walking through it. I could see the brush parting, but I couldn't see what it was. And about the same time I looked over it, one of the dose popped up over the ridge. And I was torn between watching the deer and what is this over here? I never did see it, but I heard a scream. I mean, like somebody was getting murdered. And it went on for like 10 seconds. Whatever it was in that brush took off a flying. And right before it went over a bank, I saw about six, eight inches of a black tail. Wow. And any time that I was in that field back there, I could tell about where that panther would be at. Because of watching the animals run out from that to get away from it. I wonder if he didn't just save me. Wow. Because he could have smelled it. I couldn't smell the panther, but he was downwind of that panther. And it was close enough to me that I believe he saw me. I was way up the tree. There's no way he couldn't have seen me. But he smelled that man. Like he screamed and that thing took off. I mean, it beat feet out of there. You think he was looking out for you? God, I hope he was. And if he was, I sure appreciate it. Because I couldn't have gotten more than one shot off on that thing if he would have jumped up that tree after me. Oh, yeah. I didn't carry a pistol at the time, so all I had was at 243. And the chances of me getting something flying up a tree, if I get one shot off and I miss, I'm hurt. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm so interested to hear more about Louie. Oh, yeah, we'll be getting back to Louie here shortly. That's why we were real curious about your cave run experiences, because Louis seems like he heads through that area and we're trying to figure out if he circles around and goes back through it every so many years or if he just hangs out there. We're not real sure, but we think we're definitely on his trail. Well, see, there's some strange stuff has been going on down here. I bought this, my cabin back last February. And three days after I signed the papers on it, I took my first trip behind my house and I went down it's a mile and a half from my property to the river. And on the way down to her, I found a structure. And Josh told you the one that interested him, the one it's like it's a shield wall. It's like a wall that they can hide behind you. It's crazy that it's done that way. I mean, it's like it was weaved together stuff and right down below that structure and a bigger one beside of it. When me and Josh went down there, there's only like one plastic bag left. Yeah, but when I went down there, there were five big, black, heavy trash bags. I used the same ones with the blue drawstring bags. The big ones? Yeah, there was five of them and it looked like whatever had brought them down there had picked out what they wanted.
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Those garbage bags were at least 200, 250 yards downhill from home, and they weren't ripped open. I mean, like something that drug it through the woods. It was like it was carried in place there. And then when me and him went back, the rest of them was gone except for one garbage back there and it didn't have nothing in it. Yeah, that's odd too, because going all the way back to one of our episodes where we spoke to a lady named Candace, she was having something similar to that going on with her. She was having things coming in the middle of the night and taking her garbage bags out and carrying them off and finding the stuff. Later on, the bags just emptied out and picked through. It's an odd occurrence, but it's weird that we have seen it and heard it in other stories. You all said something about there's been drones and stuff behind my house. Yeah, well, there's been several that showed up at night. The first time that we noticed that, my daughter, my oldest daughter lives with me. And I was in there listening to Dog Man encounters because I had never really heard much about it, but once Josh and everybody started talking about it, I started doing research on it too. And she came in the house and she said, dad, why would somebody be flying a drone outside? And now this is about 1030 at night. Yeah. So I walked out on a porch and I watched three different drones flying around over the valley behind my house. And I wonder supposedly one of the guys I talked to on out the road from me told me that they put game cameras up and they said they were looking for some. At first they said they were looking for somebody, but there's not been no missing person up here. Yeah, what are you looking for? And then another time he kind of had words with them about it because they're wanting to put stuff on his property. Really? He was having words with him about it and they said they were looking for elk. Now why would you be flying drones around at night looking for elk? You don't must imagine the drone would spook elk away. Well, that's what I'm thinking myself. Yeah, you can get thermal drones and use them at night and find them, which you could easily find anything that has a heat signature with a thermal drone. But it was like they were staying closer to my part of the property and you would see them leave, like one would disappear for about 10 minutes and then you'd see it come back. It was like they were changing out the batteries on it. And they've done that for quite a while. No kidding. They've done it on several different occasions too. There's something walks with my daughter. Last summer, she was on the phone with one of her family members and it was dark, it had no lights out on the outside of my house. And she came in there and she said that there's something walking around the wood and you can hear it. Really? It don't come up to where you can see it, but you can blatantly hear it walking like a man. Wow.
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I'm sure we have a couple of good guesses. Well, maybe you guys could help inform me on what could have done this. Now there's a lot of cows that run this ridgeline and one night I was out on the phone, I was talking to one of my veteran buddies out in California, and he was on the phone and you could hear child center fighting, but then all of a sudden something made a roar. It's crazy, it was just loud. And then you started hearing cows that were getting hurt bad. I mean, like when one would start yelping, it would just keep yelping until all of a sudden it just stopped. Well, go ahead. All I can think of is that if there's something, this is just a generalization, but if there's something that is a large predator and it occupies an area, and another group of predators invade that area depending on the size of it, they're not competition, they're just more game, they're more prey. And the coyotes howling and causing hell and then basically something answering them. That's not the first time I've heard that either. I've actually heard something very similar here at my farm. Really? It was about 430 in the morning, about maybe, I don't know, four or five weeks ago. And I get up early to go do our job, and usually in the morning, I open a window and I listen and the whole valley starts to wake up and you start hearing things and about, I don't know, I want to say maybe four or five football fields to my southwest. I can hear a pack of coyotes in the morning, and they move back and forth along the valley. And one morning they were given their usual morning songs and then something answered them from a lot closer and they all just shut up, almost as if they knew, hey, we should stop broadcasting where we're at. You know what I mean? It was weird. I've been trying my ass off to get a recording of that every morning, and so far I have not had luck. But I tell you what, I would bet this podcast that eventually I'll get that recording and it will be on one of these shows. I'm excited to hear it, I really am, because I kind of wonder if they wouldn't fight something down there, because, I mean, you could hear them snarling. Yeah, and you could hear something making a grunting sound like, say, like one of the cows did something and he grunted. But usually right after you heard that grunt, you always heard a cow guilt, like it had been hurt so bad. And honestly, one of them sounded like it was getting beat up against a tree. It was like, well, it would be yelping. And then all of a sudden, it would kind of stop and it start right back. But it was like it was lower each time. No kidding, man. So they definitely got into it with something they probably didn't want to. That's pretty wild. My daughter brought that to my attention one night. She was coming home because she works at a company about 45 minutes from where we live, and she worked tonight, and she came in, she said, dad, it sounds like cows are fighting something down the haller. I said, what do you mean? And she said, Come out here, because she woke me up. I walked out on the porch and you could hear them. It was like they were running. They would run a little ways, and it was like something called up to them, and then they thought it again, and then they would run a little bit further and it was enough to make the hair stand up on the arms. Yeah, I imagine so. Yeah. That's wild, man. My first thought was that when you first said it, my first thought went right to dog man. But then if something was picking them up, I just personally don't feel like that would have been in the dog man area because I've not really heard much. About them picking stuff up and bashing them against trees, but that definitely sounds like the big guy. I don't know that much about dog men, and I'm hoping to pray and that I don't have one behind my house. All these people say that Bigfoot is an eight. I don't think he is. I think he's more human. He's more human. The eyes that I saw through the scope that day, they had an intelligence to them. If you meet somebody for the first time, you kind of watch their eyes when you talk to them to see if they're trying to be a little truthful. Exactly. Yeah. The old saying, it's the windows to your soul. You know what I mean? You can always tell what somebody is like. Did we lose them?
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I guess if you want to let that cool down. I got, like, 30%, but it might work for a while.
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Let's see if we can get him back on here.
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Get this over in the shade. Hopefully that's better. Hello? Sorry about that, buddy. Oh, hi. Can you hear us? Okay. Sorry about that. That's okay. Yeah, we had our phone sitting here. We're actually outside today enjoying the nice weather, and the phone was sitting right here in the sun, and we didn't even think about it. It kind of overcooked, and it just shut off on us. Okay. Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah, man. You were saying that you'd hope that you didn't have a dog man behind your place. No, I'd rather not run into one of them. Thanks. I haven't experienced one of them, and thankfully, maybe I'll die without seeing one of them, because some of the stories absolutely. I don't think I could handle. I hear that. I definitely hear that. I've got a theory about the dog man. I've been working myself up to release it out there, and I'm a little hesitant, but I think now that the fans out there, the show are starting to speak out and support the podcast here, I'm getting closer. I think I'm willing to go ahead and bet the farm on this one. And I would say drones. If you're seeing drones, you're seeing government officials, you're going to see a dog man eventually. I think that they're linked. I sure do. Yes, sir. Everything we've been I've been listening to a couple of guys on YouTube. I know you know them. Steve and Dave and Scott. Well, I'm interested in hearing your theory on the dog man to see if it's getting kind of a little close to mine. I'm wondering if the government and the dog men ain't kind of tied together. Yeah, I think they are, actually. I don't know, man. Tyler, what do you think? At this point, we just roll the dice? Yeah, I would say so. Honestly, Kevin, I honestly think that the dog man belonged to us. I think that we made them. Really, I do. The reason is because every time I've probably listened to the dog man encounters, I can't count anymore how many stories I've heard. And I'm somewhat of a pattern analyst. I pick out things and I look for things in the stories. And my whole thought was that going into this is if a pattern shows itself, whether it be somebody lying or an actual behavioral pattern that's being shown to us in these stories, it's going to stand out like it's lit up by 1000 tiny fires and it sure as shit was. Well, I have a lot of respect for any podcast, YouTube channel that allows good, honest people to tell their stories. And you got you people out there that want embellished to make your name well known oh sure. And try to make money off of it. And that's why I respect your guys'channel and your podcast because you guys allow these people to do stuff like it. And like you just said, if there's a pattern, it will show itself. And I'm sure you guys listen to a lot more different first hand accounts than I get to hear myself. So you would see those patterns we definitely listen to a lot. This podcast was started as kind of an investigation we're trying to piece together just like anybody else out there, we're looking for the puzzle pieces and we're looking for what stands out. The first thing that stands out in regards to the let's for example, the big guy, the big guy of the woods, the first thing that stands out to us is that he has certain intelligence, he moves in certain ways. He also employs several, I want to say talents or traits. I don't exactly know how to classify those. But like you said earlier, when you look into his eyes, he's looking back at you and you can't help but to wonder if he's working out the same things that you are. To me, I look at it like all throughout the history of this planet, human like creatures, hominids, whatever you want to call us, we've always walked hand in hand with other hominids. And over time those hominids kind of switch out, new ones come along and then they live together for a while. Neanderthal comes to mind. And why would it be any different in today's world? We've only been walking up and writing things down and learning how to use our thumbs for maybe the last 125,000 years. There's a lot of history there that we don't know. We're at the very beginning and we don't understand. Now if you take our species and another one and you say that okay, well, we've got homo sasquatch out there, that's our other counterpart. We evolved towards technology and inventions to help us cope with being a little bit at a disadvantage in nature. But then you have this other guy, this other race of beings that evolved to be closer to nature and to work more in harmony with the world around them. I don't know how anybody could sit there and say, that's just not possible. There's no way. I agree with you on that. I really do. And it's very enlightening how you said, now, today, with technology, fewer people go out in the woods. What are you missing? You can sit on your couch. You're missing all kinds of stuff. But those people that are out in the woods enjoying nature, they're going to see a lot more than you. I'm telling them they're not right. I've been telling my kids for years now that when you pick up your phone and you turn on your television, you're not seeing the real world, the real world's outside. We're being told that this is the real world, but this isn't it. This is the construct. This is what we've invented to replace that. Going outside and taking a walk will make you feel so much better than your favorite show coming on for 30 minutes and going off. There's just no comparing the two. But in regards to the dog man, the dog man pattern is interesting to me because it has a very military aspect to it. I mean, nine out of ten encounters that I've heard, and I've been through thousands of them, the dog man doesn't hurt anybody. He scares them. He intimidates. He chases. I even heard one story where he chased these guys on a side by side ATV, and he actually grabbed the front of it and started slowing their ATV down. And that's a famous story out there. And the first thing that popped into my mind when I heard all this was he's testing himself. He's showing himself that he's superior. He's not allowed to kill anybody. He's not allowed to hurt them unless he's being instructed specifically to do so. And that's why you don't hear about them being made from wolves, because wolves are uncontrollable. But a dog a dog can be trained. We've had the patents on human hybridization for decades. We've had that. That's old news. Those patents are out there. The government owns them. Yes, sir. Sorry, I think there was a plane going over. Did we lose you?
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Kevin, are you there? Hello? Can you hear sir,
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I don't know what happened here. Tammy, can you hear us? Hello? Can you hear us? Let me try this real quick, okay? I said the call ended and I lost him. Man, we are not having good luck with this at all.
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That's a weird coincidence. Hello? Hey, Kevin, did we lose you? Yeah, I don't know if that's on my end or not. I know I just told Tyler what a weird coincidence that I started talking about this theory and we get disconnected. Really? What did you say? I lost you when you said was talking about the dogs can be trained? Yeah, I said the reason why you always hear about them being made from dogs instead of wolves. A wolf is wild and untainable. They always have that wildness in them. But a dog is a different story. A dog can be trained. He can be he can be man's best friend. Yeah, some of these depictions of dog man, they always say it looks kind of like a Rottweiler. And those were used in military. And the dogs pointed ears of a Doberman Pincher, too. Yeah. Doberman pincher. I think one thing that they got me too recently was the comparison between the older dog men accounts where they were describing them looking more like a German shepherd, and even a couple of cases where the newer dog men, as I call them. I call them the new prototypes. The new models actually going and hunting down the other type and killing them. And a couple of witnesses saying that they've seen that happen. So I thought, well, it's interesting. The military, they have a lot of different dogs. Fort Bending, where I went to basic training, I was also stationed there, and Fort Bending, they trained a lot of the dogs that the military uses. Well, they did at the time, and that's back in 97 through 99 while I was there. And I asked one of the instructors one time, I said, well, why are you putting your German Shepherds through a different course than you are like your Rottweilers? Have you heard about how hunters will have bear dogs that chase and bring a bear down, at least bite it so they can get a shot at it? Well, from the way I took him, the way he explained it, the Rottweilers are like your bring down dogs where they're so big and massive, they can hit bigger guys and bring them down, no problem at all. You take a 100 pound Rottweiler, it's going to bring down a big guy. That's like throwing a boulder at somebody. Really? The boulder with dog meant, if they're making them, are they making like, the German Shepherd types more for tracking, and the Rottweiler types, they're made more for your brawn and the power behind it for fighting up close and personal. It is interesting, but I noticed, too, that a lot of your I call them cluster sightings, it's when there's multiple in the same area, it's almost always located near a military base. And when I did some further research, a lot of those military bases that they're located near are abandoned or shut down, really? Supposedly shut down, I should say. I don't know. And if there's anybody's listening out there, please don't send dog men to assassinate me. That'd be awesome. Yeah, please don't do that. Don't send them over here either. But I tell you what, if you do send dog men to assassination, you're proven me right, and everybody's going to know it. I tell Josh and my nephew when we were out and talk all the time, I will drop a bigfoot if I have to, yeah. But if it's an encounter like the first one I had, I'll be less likely to shoot him. But now, if he throws something at me or he screams at me into my face, I'm going to take it as he thinks he's bigger than me, and I'm going to see if my gun is bigger than him. I understand that. And I tell them boys all the time, he may get me, but he's going to get me through a wallet. No, I wondered about that. I'd rather not. Some of the encounters I've heard about where the actual Sasquatch is a lot more aggressive than others, and for the longest time there, that really bothered me. I could not put my finger on it. Out of all these sightings, I was like, why is this handful of sightings? Why are they aggressive? So I started thinking, well, maybe it's the time of year. So I started looking into that and sure enough, there's a lot of those encounters that are aggressive are nearing the end of summer and beginning and fall. So I did some more research. Sorry, I got goats back there losing their minds. But I started researching that and I found that mother bears will get more aggressive during the season after they reproduce, after their babies are born. If a bear has babies nearby and you come nearer, she's going to be a lot more irritated and a lot more pissed off in trying to get you out of there more. So what I kept thinking was maybe during these more aggressive encounters, maybe there's young ones nearby and they're basically showing aggression to get you away from them. They don't want those babies seen or encountered. You know, that would be a good assumption, because most animals, they had that trait. They're going to protect their young. That's their livelihood right there. That's their family they're going to protect. It just like us. I'm sure any good American out there would protect his family. I know I would. Absolutely. I mean, I'd stand right there and die if I had to for one of my family members. And if Bigfoot is doing the same thing, I can understand that. I totally get it. The dog man, some of the stories I've heard about him, he's more likely to be aggressive from the get go. Yeah. You seem he's there maybe, like you said earlier, test himself to see how close he can get to you or how scared he can make you. Absolutely. Yeah. It seems like that most of those encounters, he's not out to kill you, but he is going to toy with you. Yeah, definitely. For sure, he's going to toy with you. I guess that's like he was saying, testing himself or what? That's the impression that I get. It's a test. It's almost a military exercise. Go out and see what you can do. Don't get caught, don't get seen. But the dog man has a big weakness, and I'm sure he doesn't want to know that. He doesn't want that out there. I'm sure of it. But if anybody out here is listening, you think you have a dog man problem? Trust your animals, your livestock, your dogs, your cats. Listen to the birds around you. They all know the dog man is there before you do. And the dog man doesn't seem to be able to get past those. I wonder, you guys listen to all of these stories, and how many of those stories has people actually fired that one with a rifle or a pistol or anything? Right. What was the reaction if he did? Yeah, it seems like the gun itself will do some damage, but not enough to incapacitate. It seems like it has another layer of skin that's like, protecting it. Yeah. Because the one encounter I can recall, they said they shot it in the left upper right peck towards the shoulder. They said it kind of ripped through, went to the left, and it still came after him. Right. That was the one that he was talking about, where he grabbed the side of their side by side and slowed it down. And that was still with injured arm. Yeah, that was with a whole injured peck, basically. I do wonder, though, because most people I think the reaction would be to shoot center mass, to just shoot at the biggest part of it, up your chances of actually hitting the target. I always wondered, though, if you went for a leg instead. I've always wondered, like, most of these animals, they can hunt at night majority of the time, so they're going to have some type of night vision. I've always wondered. Just have like a judge or something. I think we've talked about it with the dragon breath rounds. Just as you shoot it, if it doesn't do anything, at least it's going to disorient it with the flash itself. I do believe that bright lights, any kind of really bright light, even if it's spotlight, I think you can disorient them enough to get away on the night vision part. Back in I'm originally from Poppill, Kentucky, but I moved down here to the Cave Run area. Yes, sir. I had one of the ATM day and night scopes, and I noticed something that when you fire that rifle that I had it on my AR 15. Yeah. And every time you shoot that thing, if you're looking through that scope temporarily, it'll kind of bother your eye a little bit. It'll be a little fuzzy. If an animal is built in with that, they have perfect night vision, but at the same time you shine a light in your eyes, you're going to disorientate it at least for a few seconds. Look at all the eyeshine stuff that you find out there, all the stories about that. That alone can differentiate between whether it can see at night or not. You're seeing eyeshine. It's looking at you like it's in the middle of the day. I mean, it's going to see you crystal clear. You talk about the eyeshine. Josh said something when he was on the podcast with you guys about me seeing red eyes behind my building. If you go over the hill behind my building now, I'm five foot seven. I can stand there and put my hands up to the top as far as I can put them up. And you stand on the porch where I was. You'll see my hand? Yeah. So whatever it was at least seven, 8ft tall. Right. And as soon as I came out on the porch with my 30 off six, I could hear him walking down through there and he was breaking branches as he went. Wow. My daughter was on the porch one day, and this was like it was last summer, around the end of June last year. She was sitting out here in the evening. It was about five or 600 in the evening. And the bigfoot pushed the tree over and now the tree was a dead tree, but it's bigger around than a five gallon bucket. He pushed it over and like 10ft beside it is a tree that's as big around as my wrist that has been snapped and twisted at the same time. Wow. It takes a while. I think it was Friday night. I hung a rabbit up behind my building down there. And that rabbit is up about 8ft off the ground. And I didn't tie it with a double knot, just the regular just one little knot. Just enough to hold it. Yes. It was gone by 07:00, a.m. Saturday morning. Wow. There was no it was just free hanging. There's no way something could climb up and get it? No, you have to be tall to touch it. There's no way you could have got it from the tree. Wow. That's I owned a rope up and went down and climbed up a tree a little ways, maybe ten foot off the ground. And then I just looped. I just kind of hung the rabbit over the little I call it the clothes line that I had, and I tied it off to another tree. The rope was still there, but the rabbit was gone. What about the rope itself? Was it shredded or was it untied? No, it just looks like whatever it was just pulled the rabbit by its body and just pulled it down. You could still tell that it had been looped, like tied around the rabbit. It was just still hanging there. No kidding. You got to be careful with stuff like that or you'll end up making a big buddy that you didn't want. Well, as long as he's nice to me. Yeah, a rabbit here and there, that's not too bad, I guess. Then back to the dog man. Josh told you a little bit about the story of a buddy of mine's. Brother? Yeah. He was the lineman for the power company. Oh, yeah. He dumped 15 rounds out of a desert ego into that thing and it never flinched. That's crazy. It was dead set on. If he could have got to that bottom rung on that tower, it would have came up. No kidding. And he asked me, this guy keep the family's name out because of how bad this situation is messed with him. He took two months off of work and he talked about killing himself and everything. Oh, no. He said he goes to places where just regular pickup trucks and stuff can't get to. I mean, he found several missing people and one time the first one he found, he had to go back down and bring the cops up. Yeah. And he asked me, when we talked about it, I said, right there. And I'm not a bit shamed. At any minute when we get my face and laugh at me, I sit there and cried with you. I just felt bad it messed with him. He said he seen bars, he's seen wolves, cows. I mean, he's seen all kinds of stuff, he said. But he felt true terror when that thing smiled at him. Yeah, as soon as he clicked that safety off on that Desert Eagle, that thing smiled and looked up at him. He said, I just knew I was dead. I don't know if he was trying to scare me until he realized I had a gun, he said, but once I unloaded them rounds in it, he said that thing circled me around her. He said I stayed with her for 4 hours. Wow, man. That's something that upsets me when I hear it is we should know about these things, this type of stuff. This man that this happened to clearly went through a trauma. He's probably doubting himself. He's doubting everything about the world around him. Why do we let him get in that situation? Why isn't he warned? Why doesn't he know? Plus, I'm just concerned about if this is actually true, what we're saying about that. We actually made this dog, man. Our government put him in that situation because they want to test something that they don't want no one to know about. And I don't want to be a conspiracy guy and I don't want this podcast to be a conspiracy, but there are some things that our government doesn't want to tell us. And I get that for no panic, but there has to be some kind of like, line not to be crossed. There has to be some inclination like, hey, there's a few things out here. Steer clear. And this man that we're talking about, I know we're not going to say his name or anything of the sort, but I don't think you'll ever hear this, but if he does, all I could say to him would be to stay with us, man. Don't give up. Eventually, down the road, you are going to reclaim your life, and there's more of us out here that believe you. Then there's people who will discredit you. And I wish him the best, man. I kind of talked to him and stuff. When he feels like talking about these things, just let him get it off his chest. And you know what? You know what one of his favorite things he asked me, and I don't have an answer for it, and I don't know anybody that does have an answer for it. It breaks my heart because I know this guy's brother, and he's like a brother to me. I trust him with my life to hear him go through it. He asked one question. He said, is this what happens to people that go missing, that they never find nothing? He said, Is this the thing that's doing it? I don't know if nobody knows, but I'll make a promise to you and him and anybody else out there that if it is the reason, eventually we're going to find it. We're going to find it, and we'll prove it. I don't care how long it takes. And if we die trying, then somebody else, I guarantee somebody else out there will pick up the pieces and they'll go forward and they can continue on. Somebody's going to get to this. The government can silence one person. They can't silence thousands. That's it. They cannot silence thousands. I listened to David and Steve talk about these bigfoot encounters and stuff and people going missing. Well, I mean, if he's what the government would call a super soldier, maybe they're doing it and the government just covers up. Well, we don't know. See, here's a funny little piece of information. Another veteran buddy of mine told me that if Trump would have got elected this last time, he was going to declassify a bunch of documents not on UFOs, he was going to declassify a lot of information on national parks. Wow, that would have been fantastic. Yeah. What was he getting ready to tell? What was he going to say that got everybody so spooked? Because he was one of the ones that wanted the American people. And I believe that the reason the government don't want to say nothing about these national park missing people is they would lose funding. I imagine all these people that come in, you think about it, look how much money they would lose if they came out and said, oh, yes, they're bigfoot dog man and werewolves out in these national parks. We gave them at land to say, well, a single mother with two children that wants to go camping, she's not going to go to a national park, she's going to put her children in it. So there goes either money. Yeah, why not tell people? It's sad to say, but you follow the money and you generally find the answer. I mean, yeah, we've always said the same thing, too, is how much is the lumber industry? Oh, yeah. It's billions of dollars. And you know for a fact those guys have politicians in their pocket. So you know for a fact if there's something out there and they knew it's out there, it's going to make the land like they can't. People would raise hell. Yeah, people raise hell and tell them, like, hey, you can't do that here anymore. And that brings lumber down. Yeah. It would affect everything. It would affect their big industry. All their deep pockets will start getting shallower and then can't have that politician. Yeah. As soon as a politician starts getting poor, you'll start seeing some stuff get regulated pretty quick. They'll start inventing new stuff. I can tell. Some of my friends will tell you what, instead of paying the senators, congressmen, all of these big money, give it to you, first responders and people like that, that actually could use it and make their life better, give them Social Security benefits, watch out by Social Security and stuff change. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I would sit down and leave somebody off the street fashion, and I would have got a fishing. Oh, yeah, without a doubt. Without a doubt. Kevin, something I wanted to ask you about was, did you notice an increase in activity in regards to the big guy when you moved down to where you're at now, or do you think that the first encounter just kind of woke you up to it? That's something I'm always curious about. It's not that it got more how am I trying to work this? It's not that it got more frequent, but it's more that the first time kind of wakes you up to notice. I guess it made me more aware. Like when I went out in the woods before I seen him. I always kept a lookout for animals that could harm me. But now I'm not so much worried about the animals that I know about. I'm worried about that it's something watching me that I can't see. It's always in the back of my mind. It's something watching me that I don't know. No kidding. It's nuts, man. It's crazy to think that there's an archaic human out there just watching. Just watching and learning. I've even heard the stories of them talking. Well, I've heard people see over in Virginia, after I'd had my encounter, I got into fist fights with people that called me a liar. And I was at church. I went to church at the time with my ex wife. We still together, me, her, my little girl and old man. He said, you need to go out there and talk. We'll call him William after church and tell him what you saw. Because this other gentleman had heard people talking to the church about me being a lie for what I saw. Well, after church that day, I walked over to William and I asked William, I said, Everybody. I said, I've had a couple of people tell me I need to come and talk to you about what I saw. He said, well, what do you see? And I told him what I saw. He said, when you go home, he said, Come back out to my house. I know where he lives is about 4 miles from my house, will back country roads. He comes to my house, he said, I'll show you proof of what one of them things can do to you. I was like, okay. I went to his house. He showed me Xrays of the right side of his jaw. Him and five other guys were down in a place over there called Indian Gutter. And now you can go down there during the day, and it's beautiful. There's a big old cave down there that the Indians had actually cut out shelves to store stuff. Okay? But now, once the sun goes down, you better get out of there, because there's something down there that would throw rocks at you. Wow. That guy's X ray of his jawbone on the right side looked like gravel. No kidding. Something through a rock and hit him, and they didn't know what it was. All of a sudden, he was the second one in line. They wrapped coonhome, and all of a sudden he just drops, like somebody had dropped something on his head. And then while they were worrying about him, trying to figure out what happened to him, one of the guys stood up, he heard a whistle, and then he heard a whizzing sound. And right in front of his face, he said, about the size of a basketball hit the popper tree in front of him. And this was a popular tree, about size of a five gallon bucket, and it was not dead. It ripped the bark off of that and took a big chunk of wood with it. And they carried him out of there. And to this day, he said, we never go back down there in Indian Gutter. No kidding. He also told me, he said, if you're respectful to them, it won't bother you. But he said, we went down there that night, and he said, I guess we disrespected him in some way. And I got the punishment. He said, still, to this day, he said, that happened to me 15 years ago, and he's an old man by then. Yeah. He said, this happened 15 years ago. He said, I've never once set foot back in the woods down there ever again. Wow. That is an amazing I got a question for you guys. You talked about maybe there might be a dog man in the area. Can you explain to me why all the cows, squirrels, rabbits, and a big majority of the birds have went from the back of my house to the front of my house? They're avoiding the seven Hz frequency. I hear a lot about that infrasound a lot of people talk about the feeling of dread, and it's kind of interesting to me that this didn't dawn on a couple of the other investigators, but I imagine they've got a lot bigger plates than we do. They always mention the dead silence, the sound of dread, the dead silence in the woods, and then the feeling of nauseousness and panic, and I've got to get the hell out of here, something's watching me, et cetera. And we did a little thing. It's on our YouTube page. It's called crypto theory. Sounds of dread. And we basically explored what the seven hearts frequency range can do to you and how animals in the wild actually employ that. Now, when people talk about that dread feeling, I think that there's a little detail that's being overlooked is that everything in the forest around you is also experiencing that. So when you hear everything, like you said, they're relocating away from an area, they're avoiding that, it actually will cause your organs to fire at a different frequency. Your organs are running in a timing like an engine. When seven Hz hits us, it disrupts that, and it causes that fight or flight feeling. This also happens to other animals, too. So if you see all the animals relocating or moving away, I can't say definitively if that would be dog man or Bigfoot. I would lean more towards Bigfoot because we have a lot more encounters and stories pertaining to Bigfoot being able to produce that frequency range. Most of the majority of encounters I've heard about the dog man is the smirking, the smiling, and that almost superiority complex that comes along with the dog man topic. I would say that those animals are relocating because your Big friend is making his way towards your place, but it's speculation. Well, that's interesting. I was kind of wondering if maybe it's him, because like I said before, I didn't know a whole lot about dog man and werewolves and stuff until I started listening to podcasts and stuff like that, and I got curious about it. And I even told my daughter when we were sitting here watching a movie in the living room, I told her, I said, I wonder if it ain't a Bigfoot coming closer, or maybe there's a dog man, because I listen to enough stories and stuff online that seems to follow a pattern. Usually if you see a dog man, there's usually government somewhere close by. Absolutely. In a few days, I've seen one, two or three days after you start telling people, usually government shows up. Well, I didn't have no dog man encounter, so why is the government already over here? Unless maybe there is one close yes, tyler, it was a while back, you actually mentioned something when you said, what if they made the dogmen to track the Bigfoot, to hunt the Bigfoot? Yeah, we had a fan right to us recently, too, that the Bigfoot is able to dim itself by somehow, I don't know. Yes. Something to do with its hair follicles being able to kind of blend in with its surroundings a little bit. Not completely invisible, but enough to make him not stand out to break up a silhouette. I'm seeing that this new gilly suit that the army is developing that it's almost like you cannot see each other late. And they say that it's Sasquatch fur. Yeah, that's the theory. Sent to us by a fan. I can't remember the name offhand of who sent that, but if I do, I'll put it on this video somewhere. I'd love to talk to him about that because I still have a few friends that well, I have one buddy just recently got out here about a year ago and he was telling me that they got new camouflage now that what it does is use some type of sensory whatever's behind you. It kind of projects on, like I guess it's like a poncho. And as long as you stand behind the poncho, whatever's behind you will show up on it. It's like you're not even standing there. That's wild. And he read that in one of the military newspapers. They call it the US. Army times and Navy times and Marine times he seemed a lot at the VA hospitals. Like, when I go the one in Presenceburg, I used to see him all the time. He said he was overseas when he read it. Okay. And he just happens to be eating lunch and was bored. And he just seen that paper and he started reading and he was like, wow. That would make being out in the woods a whole lot safer. Because if the enemy can't see you, then they can't shoot you. Yeah, exactly. It makes sense. It definitely makes sense. Especially with all of it. The idea that they might be hunting and killing these Sasquatch to use their fur to make new technologies. I don't know about that one personally because I have nothing to stand on in regards to it, but it's pretty wild. It would make sense. Yeah. Definitely wouldn't be the first one I saw. I mean, I watched it take three steps backwards. It never turned. It never looked any other direction to me. But it took three steps back and it was just like it blended right in to the brush behind it. You know how on the Predator movie you can still see the little shape of it? The heat coming off asphalt? You see the heat rising. It wasn't like that. It was just like he was cloaked by the brush. That's crazy. I never seen him turn or nothing. It's just like he just was cloaked all of a sudden. Who knows? He could have still been standing right there. When I eventually worked up the nerve to walk over to where he was at. He might have been close enough. He could have done something. Did you ever experience that feeling, the feeling of dread, or just that dead silent, just uneasiness? Did you ever get any of that feeling off of it just that day? I don't know. I guess how you said the emphasis on how it may with your stomach and stuff. Yeah. I've been scared before, but I've never felt I tell people I've been scared, but I've never felt pure terror until that day because my breathing my heart rate went up. I mean, all of the hair was standing up on my body, and it was like my stomach was being kind of shocked or something. It kind of hurt and it was uncomfortable. Absolutely. Yeah. Could that have been something that he does? Maybe I've been leaning more towards yes, because it seems as if they I don't know. I know we've been talking about this. Is it something that they do intentionally, or is it an instinct? And the way the experiences play out lately, I'm almost thinking that it's something he knows he can do. Yeah, because this is actually the infrasound thing. It's not just a random speculation. This is proven science. It's actually in other animals, too. Like, tigers do it. They do it at a certain hertz frequency. That will hurt. Yeah. We'll paralyze their prey for a couple of seconds there, so it just gives them just that one little extra second to jump onto their prey. So it happens in mammals. So we're just speculating on that. It could evolve this way, going further with race, natural evolution. It is interesting, though. Yes, it is. I know when we talked to Josh, he's actively seeking to investigate. He said that he's going out there. Are you going with him, or have you had enough? Oh, no. I'm still curious about the big man. I ain't going out there. So if somebody wanted to allow me and Josh and us to come out there on your property, I'm not going out there to shoot one. I had no intentions of walking out there in the woods and killable, but if he gets too aggressive, I will defend myself and I will defend whoever I'm with. But, yeah, I want to be right there with Josh because he had his experience back in Pitfall, and I grew up hunting that same area, too. And I want to be right there with him because if he finds something or I find something, we talk about new things. How did you hear that? About this or this back and forth between us? I'm just as curious to find Bigfoot as he is. Yeah. I'm not so much too curious about the dog man. Those right there kind of scare me. Yeah. The dog man is definitely a different take notice. Whenever you talk to anybody about the big guy himself, there's always that there's a little bit of the fear to it, but there's also that wonder about it that intrigue. Like, it's almost as if we could say that. Hey, if we prove he's there, it means that there's still a little bit of magic left in the world. And him being out there, I think it means a lot more to a lot of us than we even know how to express. But when you get to the dog man topic, it gives everybody an unease because we don't know exactly what it's intention is. You see, I've heard a few stories on, like, bigfoot and werewolves are less likely to hurt you, but a dog man would. No. If it wants you and it comes after you, it has an intention to hurt you. Right. I don't know much about it, and I've not been on the subject for long enough to have heard all the stories or read all the stuff on it. Those right there, I would rather not see one. You're not alone, buddy. I don't feel like pissing myself. Yeah, you're definitely not alone on that one.
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He talks to a lot of people, and he hears a lot of things, and I trust his judgment when he says stuff. He's a very respectful boy, I think world. He's smart, and he listens to people, and they don't judge them on what they say. A lot of people I've noticed in the bigfoot sasquatch community, if you don't believe the same way they do, they try to discredit. That's why I don't give no credit to the big sasquatch groups. I've listened to enough people talk about some of the things that they've done to people, like discredited on threatening them, fly over their homes in helicopters and stuff and destroy their property. I'm not up for that. I want to go see and see what maybe one day I could actually get to up close and personal with it and maybe learn something. Yeah, that's what I said. I said if I ever had hope that maybe there's one back here, that maybe one day I can feel comfortable enough to walk out and he'll be comfortable enough to walk out to me and learn. I had no hard feelings for big dog man. Yeah, I remember just me and my daughter was sitting here one night. It was interesting. And my daughter didn't know much about fitness until I started telling her about it. We heard a whipper wheel in front of my house, and she said, what's that? I said, it's a whipper wheel. She said, that's pretty well. We walked out on the porch right after the one in the front of the house would do it. There will be one at the back of the house would make one, but at the end of the call, you always hear, like, as it ended. It definitely ain't no whipper will makes at the end of it. I've heard of that mimicry and that invitations that they can do of other animals. He can't hear us. Yeah, he can't hear us. Can you hear us? I think we lost him again. Yeah, every time we get to that, that's why I don't know. I don't know why it's doing that call. Yeah, we can hear him. I'm trying to begin here.
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Hello? I don't know what's going on there, buddy. It's just dropping. You don't know. Yes, we can hear you for a while, too. We could hear you talking for a while about the whipper wheels and the invitations, and then all of a sudden, it just disconnected us. It might be my phone. I'm sorry about that. That's all right. Now, earlier, you said something about the big sasquatch communities, and I wanted to mention something to you, which I'm actually really excited about. This is that guys like Scott carpenter and Steve ever on how to hunt, and I'd like to thank us, too, Robert, up at Swan Lake, you guys, I think what we're doing is we're creating a revolution. We are literally changing that whole system around by listening to everyone letting everybody speak and hearing their story and not just letting them talk and waiting for our turn to speak, but actually listening to what they have to say. And I'm not going to sit here and say that this guy saw orbs. No, he's wrong. This guy saw sasquatch playing basketball. He's wrong. I'm going to say every story should be listened to, should be accounted for, and everybody should have their peace. What we take from that is hopefully a giant pool of knowledge, and we can find the patterns. We can put this together, and we can make a really big change in this whole community. And I'm really excited about that.
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A lot of the big research organizations, they want you to fit their narrative. They want you to believe exactly what they say, and that's it. But you guys are starting a revolution. All of these channels that allow people to honestly tell what they saw, just because your site was different than mine doesn't make yours more believable than mine. It's what happened to me, and it's what happened to you other people, because these people are scared to come out and say, well, I saw bigfoot because, oh, well, the bigfoot associations, they call on my eight. Well, the one I see look like a human. Yes. I mean, it looks more human than eight. I've never seen an eight that looked like that. The nose gave it away right there for me. Absolutely. And all these people coming together, you give people hope. Okay, well, maybe I've recommended your podcast to several of my friends that want to learn more about bigfoot dog man and stuff. And I told them Kentucky x files, I said, just listen to their episodes and just listen to what other people say. And your encounter may be different, or your encounter maybe just along with some of them. They don't judge you. They'll ask you. It's always good to ask people questions about their sighting, because maybe you'll think of a question they didn't think to tell you. And somebody else out there might use that information. Information is the key to learning to have all the information before you can make a good, honest conclusion on it. And your channel, your podcast, and everything and everybody that allows that to do that. You're making people be more brave. You're empowering them. You're giving them the power to tell their story. nonjudgmentally. You sit there and listen and you give them you talk to them like they are a human being. These big research organizations, if it ain't the same, they deliver you. Yeah, I sent an audio that me and my daughter took, and I'm not scared to give this location. I grew up hunting and fishing out in this area. It's a place over here called Blackwater Creek. It's row 976. Okay. I grew up in that area. My grandfather seen a bigfoot look through his van window at him death. And me and my daughter was there for July weekend of 2019. And we got an audio of a bigfoot yelling, whooping. And now the people below us, they had four children. They loaded. They had been there 20 minutes before he started when he woops and started making calls. They loaded their kids right up and they left. And the people up the river from us done the same thing. Holy crap. Yeah, I think Josh touched on that one. If you find the road, it's called Blackwater Creek. There's a little boat ranked down there. When you go down in or right before you get to the cliff, if you look over on your left hand side, you'll see a satellite dish, one of the Direct TV satellite dishes that nobody uses. Yes. It's nailed to a tree with three inch letters that says, Beware of Bigfoot. Wow. And it's on the left hand side right before you get to the cliffs. No kidding. I've heard several things when I was fishing over there. Even when I was young, my dad told us, he said, don't leave the camp after dark. And me and my little brother and my cousins that were around, we never left the camp. But you could hear stuff up there. My grandma's step grandfather, he saw one looking at him through the window. It was smelling of him. He had a window where it had little screen on it. He had his head right at the screen and he could feel it breathing on him. That's what woke him up. And he turned to his left and he's within six inches of warmth. Wow. And when he turned over, he said, that thing got the proverbial deer coat in the headlight. Looked like oh, shit. Like he got caught. Yeah, he got caught. Wow. That's incredible. I don't know how I'd travel. If I woke up and one of them guys was standing there looking at me like that, that'd be crazy. Hey, Kevin, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. We had our recorder just messed up on us. I don't know, maybe somebody doesn't want us to talk. Give me 1 second here. I'm going to try to fix this. It might be the fishing game down here. Oh, no, he's still on us. Can you hear us still? Yeah, I can still hear you. Okay, there we go. Yeah, we had a little malfunction here about halfway through that. I'm starting to wonder, man, this is getting crazy. We have never had this happen in any of the interviews we've had so far. Somebody must be I'm special. Yeah, I guess so. Man, I don't know what's going on here. This is crazy. Yeah. I was thinking a while back that the trail cams, UV light and infrared out of the camera itself. And I started thinking that any creature out there that got that much of a broad vision spectrum, they're going to be able to see that like it's a fire. You know what I mean? So I started getting this idea about using an old trail cam, you know, the old film cameras. I started thinking, what if we stuck a bunch of those out there, just regular old film cameras, and just see what they caught? Something that's not going to emit all that extra light. You know, it's funny, you talk about, like the IR lights. People don't think that you can't see the light, but there is a little red light that comes on. See the hour flashlight I have for the night scope. I've done a little experiment. I was going to hunt cows. It was on. My arg was loaded. I wasn't going to shoot the deer. But there were seven deer standing about 40ft away off the road. And I got out of my jeep. Renegade stepped in front of my jeep. I had my lights turned off. I had a spotlight in my left hand and I had my AR in my right hand. Okay. I shined the spotlight right on the deer. They looked at it for 1 second, turned around and no matter how I moved in circles, I went up and down. I made crosses, I made stars. Those deers had followed that little red light on that hour flashlight. They didn't care about my spotlight. Yeah, I guess they couldn't figure out what's that red light no kidding. They were actually picking it up. They were seeing it. Well, you know, that's something that they don't see all the time. They see headlights and house lights and stuff like that that don't concern them. They were curious about that one little bitty red light.
Participant #1:
Wow. I'd like to put out, like you said, just a regular camera and see if I could catch something. Yeah, I think we might have more luck with something that's not going to produce that IR. You know what I mean, Kevin? You know what, Ma'am? We're actually coming up to the limit of what we can upload in an episode. But I tell you what, it's been really awesome getting to talk to you. Yeah, it has. I've been looking forward to it ever since last night. That's my daughter. I've been like a little school girl. I would love to extend this, man. If you ever want to come back on here and let some time go past and touch base with us, you know what I mean, and keep in touch with us so we can get you back on here and hopefully see what you've been up to and if you've had anything else happen, you know what I mean? I'd definitely like to extend that. If you guys informed it, anything new happens around my place, I'll definitely shoot you guys a line, let you know he's a little informed on what me and Josh and get into on it, see what we find out. Definitely, man. I'm really curious, and it's a real honor to get to talk to you guys and to get to know you and so many other good people that have gotten to meet doing this. And you said you were a veteran earlier, man. I wanted to say it earlier, but we was in the middle of the talk, and we really do appreciate your service to this country, and I definitely would look forward to having you guys, you and Josh. I'd love to have both of you guys back on and see what your investigations uncover. I just can't express that enough, honestly. I trust you guys because I've listened to your podcast, and Josh speaks so josh is who turned me onto your podcast, and he speaks so highly of you guys that if he trusts you, I trust you. Yeah, man. If you guys ever wanted to come, if you're ever in the Cave Run area and want to stop by and take it to a few places, I would most definitely enjoy doing that. You know what, man? I'm actually not trying to overstep my bounds, but I will totally take you up on that. And we've been actually talking about this summer getting out and taking our equipment out and going to some on locations, and that would be really awesome to do a follow up with you guys on location, man, that would be awesome. I'd love to take you fellas out and get the no ins and see how you operate. I'm new to this. I'm new to trying to get bigfoot and find out about him. I don't know as much as some people, and I love to learn. Absolutely. I'd be greatly honored if you guys would want to go and hang out sometime and see some of the places. Oh, you got it, man. I guess all we'll have to do is we'll keep in touch on the old Facebook page there. Well, you got our numbers now, too, so we'll keep in touch, and then hopefully I'd like to over the summer, man. If you're up for it, we can come on down. We'll pack up our equipment. We got cameras and equipment and stuff. We can come down and set up and see what we turn up. If nothing else, we'll get to meet some good people, and I'm always okay with that. Well, I like meeting a good people. You never know who you come across. That's it, man. But hey, buddy, I'm going to go ahead and cut this off right here and definitely keep in touch with us, man. And we'll reach out to you. If we haven't heard from you, we really appreciate you being on, man, and telling us everything you've told us. And I know our listeners are going to really appreciate hearing this. I don't care to talk to people down here, so if it's somebody that wants to maybe get in touch with me to talk to me, absolutely. Feel free to give them my Facebook. Okay. Tell them to message me. I'm not going to be one of those people that hides everything and don't want nobody. I want people to learn stuff about it. I'd love to have people. Maybe you guys could teach me something I didn't know. Hey, man, if we can swap information, I think we're already off to a good start with everybody, you know what I mean? Anytime we learn something new from somebody, I feel like we're on the path, man. Yeah. If anybody comes up on here who's listening to this episode and you want to reach out to Kevin, just shoot a message to us, and we'll put you in contact with him. That'd be awesome. I sure appreciate you fellas. Hell yeah, man. You take care of yourself, man. You keep your head on a swivel, and I'll definitely be following up. Hell yeah, man. We'll follow up with you so we can come down and hang out with you this summer. I'm looking forward to it, fellas. All right, man. We'll talk to you later.
Participant #1:
Well, ladies and gentlemen, that was Kevin, and Kevin is pretty awesome. Hell yeah, man. Josh wasn't kidding. He said that you're going to love this guy. He's super enthusiastic, and he knows a lot, and I don't think he was wrong. And I think Kevin knows his stuff, and he's definitely had a lot of experiences. Yeah, just like, going through all of it from the first time he actually saw one to now. He had a few encounters. I know he hasn't actually had a lot of the encounters, but other than that first one, man, like how you said it was backed up and it kind of like I don't know. That's weird. I wonder if it's just a trick of the eye. I don't know. Something about them that's just a trick of the eye. I'll tell you what, though. As soon as he said it, I locked that one away in the old lockbox there. That's definitely a detail. I. Feel like that's going to be important later on. It felt, like, terrible during that sentence. Yeah, folks, you heard it. And like it said out there with the bigger sasquatch communities, we're not trying to pick a fight with nobody here. But there is a bottlenecking of information, and we are actively I feel like inadvertently, we've went against that to some degree because we want to hear what you have to say. I want to know what you're thinking. I want to know your opinion. I'm not interested in being told by a television show what to think. I want to hear from you. If you have a sighting, you want to send us an email, you want to be on the show and talk to us. Encounters@kentuckyxfiles.com. That's all you got to do. It'll be on the YouTube. It'll be on the links. It will be everywhere. There's no excuse not to see it reach out to us. You're going to be surprised that we literally don't go into these conversations. We don't rig the conversation against you, put it that way. We want to hear what you have to say. Yeah, I know that there's some information that there's always the patterns, and then we have always talked about patterns and stuff, but there's always, like, sometimes there could be something that we missed that something else doesn't. Like the whole orb thing. We can't wrap our minds around it, but it is coming up A lot more. It is. So there's things that we can learn. There's things that we're probably, like, we think that might be true about it about sasquatch. But we're actually far from the truth. And you're telling us something that it might be crazy to some, but it might actually hold a light to all this. So, yeah, nothing is crazy. We got to dig for everything. We need to get rid of that whole mind state. You know what I mean? That whole mentality of this is right and this is wrong. Nobody knows, guys. Yeah. We don't have evidence. We don't have a physical. There's no handbook. Yeah, there's no handbook to this. We need to build the handbook, and that's what all of us I think it's our responsibility. Yeah, we take the collection of information that we get from first hand accounts and we put it in. We either speculate on, like, okay, this one seems a little bit more plausible than this one and vice versa. But we won't disclose throw away something that seems a little crazy and out of the box, because what we're looking at Is out of the box. It's crazy. That's the thing that gets me. We're going into a topic that's already so far left field. It's out of the box. How do you get to a position in this community where you say, that's just crazy? Really? How did you arrive at that? Yeah, we're already dealing with something that the possibilities Are endless here. What's the line define for me where the line in the sand actually is, and I'll just go from there. And as for the Kentucky X Files, there is no line in the sand for us, and none of them can intimidate us. We're just a couple of regular guys who are just genuinely curious. So what are you going to threaten us with? You're going to discredit us? You're going to discredit all of our people that we've talked to? You're going to look every single one of them in the eye and tell them they're a liar. You're not going to do any of that. You're never going to silence them because there are several outlets people can go to. You got how to hunt. You got Scott Carpenter. You've got all these places. Lee woods. You've got Robert up at Swan Lake. You got him. You have us. And you got Josh out there. He's actually got there. You got Kevin. We all become part of this, guys. Every one of us. Every time we talk to somebody, they join. We join together. We become bigger. And if we're bigger, we're harder to stop, aren't we? Well, yeah. With that being said, you're definitely going to catch us back on the next one, because we're not ending it here. Nope. Like you say, can't stop us. Unless the dog man assassinates us. Then it's my fault. And then we'll see you again on next Monday. Yeah, we'll see you again. Even after that, there's no stopping this train. Somebody will pick it up. All right, guys. You guys be cool out there and keep your heads on a swivel, and we'll see you for the next episode, I think, hopefully out.
