S114 : Robert Judd's Swan Lake Bigfoot activity

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something that would be in the context of the super. He described as being a great silverlooking, upright, popular creature. Dragging a deer out of that fave, going to peel them,

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do you believe it's? Demons. And it takes one big step and vanishes. I'm like, oh, my God, that was a big look at these pictures of this white creature. Something seven foot three, eight foot tall, and this bear was standing on his hind legs, and he was running like a nap. Now, when it stood up, that's when I knew it was a doll.

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Welcome back to the Kentucky X Files. Podcast, everybody. Episode 14. Yay. Sorry about that. We don't have special effects. We don't have the clapping reel. Yeah, we'll get one. It's just not in the budget yet. Tonight we have a guest coming on from another YouTube channel. We found the Swan Lake Bigfoot channel, and he's got some interesting stuff about Sasquatch and orbs. And since we've been talking about that, I'm sorry, you know what did I say? Swan Lake Bigfoot. Yeah. Okay, so I did that one. Okay. All right, thank you. So he's got some trail cams, does videos, but with his trail cams, he's got stuff going on with orbs, some interesting pictures, some interesting interactions, and I don't know anything beyond that. So this is cold boar. Let's just get him in here and let's just hear what he has to say. It'll be fun and maybe we'll learn something. I know I've been curious about the orbs, Tyler. I don't know how you felt about them, but I'm a little indifferent on them. I would like to hear everybody's take on it. Just what everybody believes, what they feel that they might be. Do you have the same, like, I have this weird feeling about it where I'm like the orb thing. It's similar to the whole do you know, the Sasquatch UFO thing, the connection there. I'm not sure how I am going to get behind it. I'm not trying to shit on it. I'm just saying that I don't know how to get from point A to point B in regards to this. I don't really understand Sasquatch being point A and then UFOs being point B, the line that connects them. I don't get that. And I have the same thing going on with this. I'm not, like I said, not shitting on it. I just don't understand. So I thought, man, maybe this guy can help us and shed some light on it. His name is Robert Judd, and he is from the Swan Lake Bigfoot YouTube channel. And I'm going to add him to discord right now. Hello? Can you hear me? Got you. All right, there we go. So, Robert, if you can hear me, good, I was checking out your last video, man. Sounds like a bigfoot came up and smelled the camera. Yeah, I'm not going to say that's what it was for sure, but it happened maybe 10 minutes after I walked away from that. Like, I just sat on there and it could be anything. Right. A lot of these things I don't want to say it's 100% for sure. Right? Yeah, I understand that. And you walk away from things like that and you get the little sound. It could be a mouse climbing up and sniffing into that little microphone. Right? Yeah. It's never for sure unless you actually see it. I'm always thinking that we went out there because I know a lot of people. Every little town, every little movement. It's a bigfoot, but I don't want to be I totally understand that completely. You got a lot of orb action on your videos, and that's something that we have been discussing back and forth, but haven't really found anybody to really talk to until getting to talk to you. We are trying to understand the connection, the orbs and the bigfoot connection is just so wild for me. Just recently, just seeing the patterns, the movement patterns, the muscle movements, I haven't really felt I thought I was looking for something flesh and blood and didn't realize there's actually this other level going on of these orbs and things like that. What's your take on that, man? I mean, what do you think is going on there? Have you seen them for yourself at all? I have never seen the actual orbs ever, except yeah, I review them. I don't see them either with my human eyes. Right. Yes. I've never seen not even on my periphery or anything like that. I'm only capturing them on the video cameras and the trail cams and stuff like that.

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If I'm hearing noises, I'm getting the orbs on my video and I have that I've kind of set the gifting bowl out here on the farm here, and I've videotaped out there about five, six times now. And I get the orbs. And like, even through the winter, I mean, I would get like a fresh half a foot of snow and I would go put the gifts out there and get the orbs on the video and the carrots and whatever I put in the bowl, it's missing by the morning. Five in the morning. No tracks, right? There's no tracks. There's no nothing. So I am starting to think that they're able to do this. I sometimes think it's a dimensional thing, like spirit form into a physical kind of a morphing thing. Like, I don't know how else they could grab what's out of the bowl physically without changing form. Without changing forms, so they could actually physically pick up whatever was in that bowl. Yeah, I've actually heard the stories of that where they believe that the orbs are sasquatch can actually shapeshift into these orbs or they have some type of way to go into another I guess you would say dimension. Or if you will, because I've heard stories where they see the similar characteristics of I guess you would say, like Sasquatch moving from tree to tree, breaking limbs. But there was really nothing that they could physically see. So I've heard stuff like that. It's very odd, like how they could do that. We're learning so much as we go. Right? Yeah. I've heard stories too, where you've had two hunting parties and one's coming from one direction and one's coming from the other, and one seeing a wolf, and the other guy that was actually in the trees seeing the bigfoot, and the guy seeing the animal coming towards him is seeing a wolf. So I don't know what that's about, but yeah, it's interesting. Maybe they can make you see something I don't know that they want you to see. I'm not sure. I think if that's the case, then it just seems like we're dealing with something way more advanced than just an arcade human walking around out there. Where's your location at? Where are you located, if you don't mind me asking? I'm up in northwestern Alberta. Okay. Probably about 2 hours from the Rocky Mountains on the western side of the province. Awesome. Yeah, there's a lot of sighting. I think there's more than we know. I think a lot of people experience stuff and they don't want to talk about it. Right. Or they will not tell anybody. Yeah, me doing this too. I've been called crazy, like, even from people in the communities here, even ones I know that have actually experienced some things, they just stay quiet. Right. It's one of those things. It's interesting. There's a big group of people out there that have had encounters and actually seem to suffer from almost a traumatic state from it. It changes them. Something happens. It makes you question everything, right? Yeah. It makes you wonder everything that you thought was normal and real up there around your area. I personally flipped through probably hundreds of eyewitnesses accounts, encounters, just interactions like crazy and the orb thing. Even when someone tells their story, a lot of times they leave the orb part out and come back later and say, like, yeah, I left it out because it's crazy. I just recently heard a first hand account from this guy was a military man, a career military man, and he saw the orbs happen. And he actually said that he was hesitant. He didn't even want to tell anybody about that part of it. He said that it's bad enough just telling them about Bigfoot, but when you start bringing the orbs in, he felt like it was just too much. But for us, we're curious. We want to know. This is a crazy puzzle, and there's so many parts to it. That's why we're interested. It's incredible. But I noticed on your videos you're doing a lot with the trail cams, and I know people have had difficulties with that. Are you finding that to be the same case? Are you having difficulties capturing what you're wanting? I think initially I'm not sure how they have that all set up in the trail can, but when you turn it on and if there's something triggers that motion detector, I think there's like a second or two before that actually turns your camera on. And I've got a lot of videos where there's nothing, but to me it would have had to be something physical. Right. But shortly after I get orbs coming through on the camp, like just seconds later. And I'm not sure if the orbs are able to trigger the motion sensors. But yes, I've just been starting with trail cam. I do got one. I just went and picked up my trail cam from I don't know if you've seen the video with the Seven Creeks area that I go, and there's an orb. I mean, it's taking up half of the frame, right. And it's right in front of the camera. And to me it looks like the size of a basketball. But I mean, it's going to look pretty big if like with next year lens. Yeah. So I'm not too sure on that one. But there's probably about four or five of their orbs. And this is like in the middle of nowhere down in the trees. And I had it sitting there for four days. And I only had one night where it kicked off twice through the night. And it's orbs. Yeah, it's a whole bunch of orbs. I mean, there's a connection, right? There's got to be a connection. You just don't know. Yeah, it's hard to figure out how that works. The area that you're studying, I mean, is it known for sightings? It's probably about 11 miles from the farm here. But this whole area, there's been sightings and like, we've been having them since probably 70 219, 72 was the first time we ever experienced something. Wow. And then neighbors have talked about stuff and other farmers in the area and it's just been ongoing. Right. And we've had a lot here rate on the property. Like, I think they're full of mischief. They like to do a lot of tapping on windows and stuff like that. I'm not sure why. It could be just to get your attention. Right. Yeah, that's a tough. Unless they can tell you what it is they're doing. We're just planning to guessing them. Do you feel like any of these ones around you or do you feel like they have hostile intent? No, not at all. Not at all. They're more curious, you would say. I had one experience that was kind of I don't talk about it much because I'm not sure if it was actually them, but I have livestock here and I had I don't know if you guys know what bora boo or South African? Borgo absolutely. Okay. Yeah. Well, I have a herd here and had them in the past year I was with them and one of them was having issues, so I thought, okay, I'll take a needle out there with some penicillin. And I went to grab her, like, I usually hold her head up and then, you know yeah, you give them a needle. And when I did that and I went to stick the needle in something and we were next to the trees, something picked my feet up from under me and literally threw me into the ground. I didn't see what it was because I went out. I actually lost consciousness for maybe 10 minutes. Wow. And I don't know, I'm thinking because to me, over the years, I've had things wrong with the animals here. And I think they enjoy the animals, my livestock. So I'm thinking maybe they thought I was going to hurt one. No. Just the way I grabbed it. Right. Maybe they thought I was going to slit its throat or something crazy like that, I don't know. But that was the only bad experience I had. And I'm not even sure if that was them, but, I mean, what else could it be? And right next to the trees, right? So that's the only one. But I'm thinking lifted you, like, physically off the ground and what is it like? Yeah, my feet were up in the air and it drove piledrive me right into the dirt and everything went black. And I came to and all the animals had kind of moved about 100 yards away from me, so I had to be out for a good 10 minutes for them to get there. They were just grazing, right? Yeah. They graze and they walk slow when they eat. Yeah, that was another crazy experience because I just don't know if it was bigfoot or not. Yeah, I understand that. Down here at my farm, we raised Nigerian Dwarf goats. So I have to ask, did your goat turn out okay? Was everything fine? Oh, yeah, she was good. Yeah. Penicillin work. I got them back to the barn and stuff and that's where I gave it a shot, but that's awesome. I've had gates open through the night and all kinds of crazy things like that. But no goats have gone missing though. No. Well, that's good. I think they like them. I think they like the goats. It's interesting. Yeah. We've heard accounts to the contrary of that of people's goats being carried off and their pigs being picked up and taken. Yes, I hear those too. I wonder if it's the bigfoot or if it's like a hybrid or something. I just don't see them, I guess, unless they're starving or something. But I a lot of times think the ones here. I've never seen a kill site. I've heard people talk about these kill sites and I have never seen one. And I've actually like where I go to. That's where I put the trailhead in that seven crease location. There's so many elks through that area, like, everywhere you're walking, you're walking on droppings, right? Yeah, I've walked that whole ravine and probably a good 2 miles back into that musket there, and I've never seen a field site or any sign of bones, nothing. So I'm not sure how much of a hunter they are.

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Fish. Do you have extremes with fish? Yes, I was looking into that, and because I read it somewhere, they said that for something this size to exist, it would take an incredible amount of amino acids and fatty acids, and the best source of those is wild fish, especially fish in the north, up in your country, your area. So you guys actually have almost like a vending machine of amino acid and fatty acids right there in your backyard. So I thought maybe they're really good fishermen, as well. I've thought that, too, that they eat a lot of fish. Just like this one lake that I named the channel after. It's, like, as a crow flies, probably 2 miles from me. And there's a lot of people around that lake, a lot of structures. And over there, they're kind of building it. They're like a hut type thing with the smaller spruce trees. They just seem to bend them, and they kind of weave them in together. But they seem to be around that lake a lot, and there's a lot of rainbow trout in that lake. Yeah. Tell me about the structures. What are you seeing on that end?

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There's? A lot of times you come onto some things, and you can see that it's a natural forming thing. Whether it's wind or sometimes the snow, we get a lot of snow, and if it warms up, the snow gets heavy, it will bend trees, and they just seem to keep that form. And maybe due to the cold of the snow, I'm not sure how that all works. And you come onto these other ones. All the trees are straight up and down, and you come onto this peepee structure that could be like six or eight trees. And for me, the only way I know it's an actual structure is you pull up the bottoms, and you don't find these stump of these trees. Right. So they have to move there. And then they built what? They're building their structure there. They move the trees from somewhere else, and that's the one they say is a structure. Anything else? If you can find the stumps on the ground next to these things that are leaning, I wouldn't say 100% that's bigfoot made. I read recently that there was a group of native americans. I can't remember the name of the tribe, but their name for sasquatch literally translated to it was, like, large man who carries multiple trees. Really? And I thought that was really fascinating. We've recently been discussing the tree structures. And I fell the tree here at my farm, and as soon as it happened, of course, my chain popped off of my chainsaw. So the tree is literally suspended on a red cedar tree. So it's just sitting there, and it's about an eight, maybe nine inch diameter tree. And I can't move it, it's just too damn heavy. And I sit there and look at that, and I'm kind of standing out there with this chainsaw, chainsaw, chain hanging off, and I'm standing there looking like a dip shit. And I'm looking at this thing like, how the hell do they suspend these things up in another tree? For a man to do that, you need to come along, maybe a winch, maybe eight or nine guys. And if people are building these structures, then where's the evidence of that? And I'm not seeing it. I'm just not finding it. I want to see tire tracks or a tractor, something like that, and I'm not seeing that. These remote areas with a tree that's ten inches in diameter suspended up in another tree, that blows my mind just absolutely blind. Well, if they're, according to record and people's witnesses, I mean, they're seeing nine foot eight, nine foot creatures. Right. They would be able to move stuff like that. I mean, they would have the strength. Right. Yeah. Very interesting, the structures that you said, you're seeing them all around the lake. Yeah. And this lake is known for sightings only through well, as far as I know, I'm the only one that's doing anything like this in this area. I've taken a couple of friends of mine up in there, and they will walk, I think, if you're not looking for them. I've watched them walk right under and beside these structures, and I see them, they're sticking out like a sore thumb. Right. And they are just oblivious to these things. I don't know, a lot of people would just probably walk by and think it's just part of nature, part of the landscape or whatever. But if you're not looking for it, I guess you won't find it or you won't see them. Yeah, I've noticed that down here we're in Kentucky, and down here we don't have let's just say we have a lot of sightings, but only a handful of them are tangible. And our bigfoot that me and Tyler here have been tracking, we nicknamed him Louie. Louie likes to hang out in an area for about a year, and then he travels about 20 miles away after a year, and then he hangs out there for a year. But he always yeah, we've been tracking one. We've physically never seen him. We went in and we tracked him by the sightings. If the sighting matched basically a specific set of behavioral pattern that we're looking for, if it fit that pattern, we pretty much marked it as our guy or Louie. The funny thing about this was at the end of our span, we had him tracked for 1011 years in this perfect northeast trajectory, and he's following water supplies, big lakes or rivers, things like that. And he's hanging out for a year, and then he moves 20 miles away, and there you have another sighting. And we came to the conclusion that if somebody was faking this, they have a long investment in it, in multiple people, all cooperating a story over a span of ten to eleven years, maybe longer. And we found that the water supplies are a big deal, not just for the actual drinking water, but as a navigational, maybe like a highway or migration area. He knows there's a river, he knows where it goes to. He's going to follow it. And when you said, hey, we're right next to the Swan Lake and looking. And as soon as I heard that, I'm like, well, there it is. There's the big water supply. They seem to love it. The tree structure thing, that's amazing to me. I want to get more into that. But we are trying to figure out where Louie goes and if he comes back, if he does a loop, or if he just continues on, or what exactly he does. And in the hopes that one day we might know where he's going to be and when. I think if you just stay with the waterways, like you said, I think you find something of him, because even all other animals, whether it's elk, deer, bear, they will follow. They follow the waterways, right? Yeah. The rivers, the creeks, the lakes, like you said, they rely on water source. Absolutely. You said around your area there's been sightings. Can you think of any that stand out that interest you? There's an elderly fellow. He probably about 10 miles north of me here, and he lives right next to the Alaska highway, which runs right through here. He's probably in his late 70s today, and he used to work with an oil company. And there's this place. He didn't speak about this for about 2020, some years. And he was at a job site. And not far from the job site was a blueberry patch, and it was in the middle of these pine trees. And his wife had told him when he went to work before cell phones, she said, check the berry patch. When he was done work, they were going to go if berries were ready, they were going to go picking berries. So he pulls into this blueberry patch and kind of on a south of main road, and he kind of takes his back trail into these pine trees and down this hill, and you got to stop and walk into this blueberry patch. And when he comes over the hill, he sees what he thought was a grizzly bear, because there are a lot of grizzlies in this area. And it was big, and it kind of was humped over. And he thought it was a whizzy bear, so he whistled just to get its attention, and this thing stood up on it. He thought the bear was standing up on its legs, but then when it turned around, it kind of screamed at him. And he said that lasted for well, he said it seemed like forever, but he said probably maybe 6 seconds of screaming. And she turned around and she bent down and she picked up a little baby and put it on her shoulders. And down this hill she went, right. And he talks about the baby's eyes on him. He said when she put the baby on his shoulder, on her shoulder, of course the baby is facing him and he could see his big eyes. And he said he's not even sure how long he stood there after she disappeared. She went down the hill in the ravine so fast, yet walking, and she was out of sight. And he said and I was still standing there. And he said, I'm not even sure how long they stood. And that was his story. And he said he never believed in anything like that before that moment. And the baby thing that he said, that's what stayed with me forever was because they obviously have babies, right? They have offspring. That's amazing. Yeah. And he's the type of guy you meet that he's kind of aggressive. He's marcho. He just wouldn't admit to something like that. But later he tells a story that is incredible. I would say that's probably quite a ways away from here. 20 miles west now. It's still not far. 20 miles? They could cover that. Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure they can definitely cover that. I mean, I don't think they move in a rush. I always make this joke. I think they kind of mosey. If an area is good, they hang out, they enjoy it, but they don't do, like, overkill. They don't seem to wipe out an area. They kind of just take what they need and move on. And I think that's really awesome. I agree with you. Yeah. So obviously you're interested in this. You got a whole area rich with activity, and you started a YouTube channel, and it looks like it's off to a great start. Where do you want to go from here, man? What do you want to catch? What's your goal here? Just to tell the story like our story here. There's so much going on. We get so much even in the yard here and next to our houses, we get stuff going on. And then I got the three locations that I go to away from the farm. And the only reason why I stumbled onto the structures. Right. I see them back in the bush, and I went in, and the first time I went in, you start hearing woodnocks. And I've had a few times where I've heard the I don't know, it's like a chatter. I don't know if it sounds like gibberish is the only word that comes to mind. Like, I can't make sense of it, and it almost sounds like a moaning, and then they get excited. It sounds like it's just plain gibberish. You can't make sense of it. But I've heard those vocalizations in all these places I go, so that just made me want to go back. Right. Just a speculative, I think just to tell the story is what we want to do here. Yeah. And of course, learn as we go. Right. Absolutely. Do you think that when you go in there and you hear that stuff, do you think that they're announcing you that they're letting each other know you're there, or do you think you're interrupting a conversation? I think they're letting each other know. They're kind of warning each other. I've heard one. I've heard one from one direction, and it's like I've heard three in concession with each other, and they're all in different areas, but it's like one after the other. Yes. And then it changes. Then they just seem to go quiet, and then they'll respond to me. But that's not always right. A lot of times there's nothing. It's quiet. Either they're not there. I think going back to what you were saying, that they're very passive. They're just kind of mosing along. Right. Yeah. And if they're there when you're there, then they make themselves known or I think it depends, too, like, there's something to say about how people approach them or approach their environment. Like, if you're going in there all guns of blazing, I think they're just not going to be they're just going to disappear because they pick up on it. Right. I think they're very sensitive when it comes to what kind of person or what type of person. Yeah. Like body language. Yes. Okay. Body language. And if it's aggressive, they'll kind of steer away from it. If it feels that it's more I feel like that's probably why you hear a lot of these encounters with kids. Kids will say that they've been ushered out of areas because they see it like it's a child. It's very innocent. So that's why I feel like I kind of can get where you're going with that demeanor of the person. You would think they'd be masters of body language. It's incredible. Yeah. I agree with that. I think they can totally read the well, I mean, body language there like you said, the thing they do best is they hidden. Right. And they know how to do that very well. And I don't know heard them right in front of me. It sounds like it's right in front of me, but I see nothing. You can't see them, and I don't know if it's something they can do so that you don't see them or they're just very good at blending in. Yeah. Have you ever had, like, any of these times you heard anything. Have you ever had, like, an uneasy feeling? Like that flight or flight thing? Have you ever had that? You have? Yeah, I think when I first started, you get that feeling, right? You get this feeling there's something there, and you're being watched, and immediately there, you get that flight, that fight or flight, right? Either stand your ground or run. And so far, I've managed to not run and just stay put. And I've worked myself to the point where now I can now take deep breaths and calm myself and just stay there. But you do get that feeling like you should just run away. Do you think it's something that they're doing? Because I've heard that, too, is that they think that they can make some type of sound, and it makes you feel that uneasy feeling, like an incoming sound. Huh? An infrasound or something? Yeah, that's what the word infrastown. They said that they're thinking that they can make that sound. And it gets you that uneasy feeling, because I think they said that they actually found an animal that we've been walking over for years, and it's been doing that every time I need to look at the animal. But it was somebody else that said it. And I was like, I'm not cooperating with that. Another cryptid. Or I don't think it was. It was another cryptid, but it was like a small rodent type creature. Okay. Yeah, they said that it was making that noise. It was. When we first started to dig into sasquatch, I read a form, another research group said that they had that assumption, that they were that sasquatch could do that infrasound. And that's the feeling that you're getting. The frequency in question is seven hurt. It's extremely dangerous frequency, especially if it's really intense, because it can actually disrupt your organs, in your body, even your heart and brain from functioning properly. And I think even the slightest little bit of that coming your way will cause an unease. If a creature that big, with that big, with lungs that size could get that low rumbling out, I don't even know if we would hear it. I don't know if it's even in our spectrum of hearing, but at 70 hurts, they say, you're kind of freaking me out right now. I've had something like that happened, I would say probably four years ago west of the property here. And I was feeling the only thing I was feeling was something in my chest. But I end up almost wanting to toss my cookies, right? Like, I got nauseous, I got headaches, and my eyes behind my eyes hurt for the rest of the day. I didn't know what happened or what that was about. Like, what you're talking about right now. It almost sounds like that's what it was. Yeah. 7 hz. It's really crazy because there's a few animals that actually do it. Alligators are known for it. Rhinos are known for it. I even think that whales are known for using it to dissuade things from attacking their babies. Yeah. And it actually has a very real effect. And this is a proven science. We're not what if on the 7 Hz frequency. That's actually a known science, and it can actually disrupt your brain waves and it can cause stresses to the optic nerves that you have. So that explains the pain behind your eyes. Wow. It's crazy. It's wild. But the more stuff we line up, the better. I think we start painting a much bigger picture. And just being able to reach out from Kentucky all the way up to where you're at, and being able to add people to each other's for actually doing that. Too connected. Absolutely, man. Honestly, the reason I landed on your page was I was looking for information on orbs in regards to Sasquatch, and as soon as I typed it in, I get ten pages of Discovery Channel and other nonsense, and I'm sitting there and I was like, you know what, I need to look for something that's recent. So I changed a little filter there to give me something that happened within the last couple of days. And yours was one of the first videos that popped up, and I saw the channel was pretty new, and I thought, you know what, I want to talk to a real person. I don't want to look at this stuff, this garbage, I want to speak to a guy. I want to speak to somebody who's actually out there doing this. And that's how we landed on you. I watched a couple of your videos and I thought, you know what, this dude wants to talk, man. I think it would be beneficial for everybody. It'd be awesome. Yeah, don't get me started. Plus, we'll get your YouTube channel out there farther and try to help you grow it. So have you guys captured any orbs? No. I was going to ask you if you are filming what did you call that one you were following around? Oh, Louie. Yeah, Louie. We have never seen Louie. We've never captured him, we've never taken pictures of him. We've never even been within 50 miles of him, to be honest with you. Everything that we have is solely tracking him by his behavior on a map. Do you know you're following him? I have no idea. I don't know how he would I mean, we're remote viewing Louie, basically. Okay. We went through and we found hundreds of sightings and we started marking them on a map. And after we got them done, we looked at the map and went through it and started picking out similarities, behavior traits, and then we started removing the rest. And then we looked at geography, locations of where he might be and what he might be doing and stuff that didn't fit. We got rid of that and in the end we ended up with maybe twelve total sightings that fit our profile. And it kind of went across the middle of Kentucky near Louisville, and we thought, okay, well, there's Louis, let's follow Louie. Let's see what Lewis is doing. Basically what I wanted to do was I wanted to take these sightings and either prove that this is an actual being or creature with a behavior pattern like everything else on the planet, or we would find no pattern at all and prove it to be a hoax. Right. We were willing to go either direction, and I think that's kind of why we've been on it, because it's not letting us go either direction 100%. It keeps fluctuating and I'm leaning more towards that. Louis is actually there and he's moving in a certain way and he has a certain behavioral pattern. I don't know if all bigfoots are like this, but I know this one is. So we've never even seen Louie. We don't have any video of Louis, we don't have a picture of Louis. We've never personally even stepped into the field near where Louie sighted and even looked at the areas. It's solely based on the sightings that people report and the similarities and behavioral patterns. Right. So it's a weird take. I'll admit that it's a strange new take on how to do this, but the way I saw it was if it's a hoax, we'll be able to pick it out by the inconsistencies and the sightings. And if it's real, it's going to have a very habitual path that it likes to take and very habitual things that it likes to do along that path, which is exactly what we found. If you guys have another channel or are you going to upload any of your findings, the maps, the episodes are on there. You can actually watch them. And they are long. They're an hour long each, I'm sure, because we didn't cut anything out. We just threw them up as is. We didn't want it to seem like we were editing anything to make it look better for us or anything. When we discover the pattern, it's on the video, you'll hear it, you'll see it, and our reactions are real because it's dumped to us. We're sitting there like we're like basically, holy shit, what are we seeing here? This is like the paths ever or what if this is a hoax? It's got dozens of people involved over a span of a decade and a half and I just don't know. I mean, are hoaxers that passionate? I just don't see it. I can't see anybody being that passionate to fake something over that long of a time. It just seems like they would lose interest at some point. So I don't know. There's obscure details that we found that didn't seem like something anybody would even think of to fake. It just didn't add up. And that caused us to kind of go a little bit farther into this rabbit hole. And I don't know if we're stuck in the rabbit hole or if we're ever going to get out, but every time we talk to a fellow who's also interested in it, it seems like we put together a few more pieces as we go. Right. It works. It works really well. There's a whole bunch of pieces to a puzzle. Yeah, for sure. It definitely is. But a it's gigantic topic and oh my God, there's so many people that are extremely passionate and some that I think might be overly passionate. And there's a few we added the names out of some of the folks on here, but the todd standing stuff, man, I have a hard time getting behind it. The faces that he put up there, there's so many things going on in those frontal face pictures that he put up that just seemed to me like yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, it's crazy. But there's a few ideas from what if you experience any of this stuff. I don't know if one would ever just sit there and let me film them and anything I've caught that resembles them moving our face, it's like my backs to them and it's just for a brief few seconds. Right? Yeah. That's all I've ever caught. And yet you see some of this footage and it's like there I don't know, I don't know how many minutes he's got of those faces, but just they're letting him do that. Unless I don't know. I wouldn't say for sure. But like yourself, I have something. Yeah, absolutely. I see that on one of your videos that you had some eye shine come up. Could you go into that? I do. With the orbs, I've got the eyeshine. I have some older videos. When I first did the YouTube channel, I had a different I went by a different name and it really didn't make any sense, but it was kindred for spirits. I still have the channel, but I removed all my videos and now moved to Swan Lake. Bigfoot because I live near Swan Lake and the creek that runs right next year is coming from the lake and it's Swan Creek. So it just made sense to change the name. I've been doing this for about two years now, and in some of the older footage, I got eyeshine. And then now with the trail cam, I think the one with the orbs, I think you've watched I got eyeshine there and then I got it. And another one coming up here. I still haven't edited it up in Gentlemen and they're very wide set and he or she seems to be very close to me. And I don't I usually know when they're near in the dark by my dog. He starts to whine and he will just lay down and he just wines. Right, okay. So that's always my indication that there's something close to me. And then you get that creepy feeling and something is there something is with you. Somebody's watching you. And just about every time I go over the video, I get that eye shine. Yeah, it's pretty well set. And they're a blue color kind of off, like a blue glow to them, which I don't quite get because I've heard people say yellow and red, and every time I've got the eyeshine here, it's a very I call it an ice color, I guess. But you can turn around in the dark, but I'll just see nothing. Right? Yeah, it's incredible. I noticed that a while back, I was looking at videos that a couple of them, I was convinced it was a guy in a suit. And another video came up, and there was eye shine. And I'm sitting there watching this. I'm like, oh, man, there's another guy in a suit. But then it kind of dawned on me, like, well, humans don't have eyeshine. Why does this guy if he's in a suit, why is his eyes shining like that? Kind of, you know, it kind of stopped me in my tracks for a second and made me think, like, okay, well, there's something it's interesting. I've always felt the eyeshine was definitely way up there on The Creepy Factor. Yeah. We use the night vision on monoculars, and that is difficult to tell what you're actually looking at, but to get the eyes shine right. Yeah, but with those as well, though, human eyes will shine. With the Monarch, that's something about where it's without the IR, like the infrared, human eyes won't shine. But if you're using, like, a trail cam or innocuous with the IR light, human eyes do shine. So do keep in mind yeah, it's a good point. I honestly think that these guys are highly adept at night vision. I feel that they can see very well in the dark, and to me, it feels like that would cooperate the eyeshine thing. It would kind of explain that. I kept thinking I was reading it was basically a spectral analysis of different types of lights and different light wavelengths and the spectrums of each one. And I started noticing something that animals that have a really adept night vision, say, like an owl or maybe a bat, I think bats are well at night vision as well. I know cats are. But a little camera emitting a little bit of ultraviolet is almost going to look like a fire coming off of a tree for them. And I started thinking that maybe it's not too hard for these guys to avoid a trail camp because they're seeing it. They're seeing that light. I've often thought of that because, like you said, if they're seeing that infrared or whatever, it would be blind and it would be very bright. Yeah. And I wouldn't go to that if there was a bright light in front of me, I would just avoid it. Right, exactly. That they're able to just go around these things or stay out of the front of them. Yeah, you would think they'd be able to see it from quite a ways off, I'm assuming. I obviously don't have night vision, so I can't tell for sure, but if I did, I'd imagine that anything emitting ultraviolet or even I'm not so sure the infrared is going to come up as hot, but I do think they might see it. So if we could find some other light source or a camera that works off a different light source, I think they would change things drastically. I really feel that if they are out there walking around and they see that well in the night, then as soon as they spot this crazy light coming out of this tree, they're just going to turn and go the other way or try to throw something at it. There's that I mentioned. I picked up the trail cam here yesterday and I've got something on my video trying to mess with my camera. And in the one corner of the video, you see these long hairs right. At the corner of the video, the frame, and that's all I hear is this. And the camera is moving. And to me, it sounds like something tried to untie it because I kind of wrapped the tie around the tree and tied it behind and there is something definitely messing around with the back of that. I would say the other side of the tree, because the tree is maybe eight inches round. Yeah. And that's where I attached the camera to. But there is definitely something there. And like you say, if they're able to see that light from a long way away in the dark, go behind it. Right? Yeah. You got to be careful. You might go to get one of your cams and find it 20 foot up in the air and a tree structure.

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They could just take it and throw it and you would never find it out. I guess if it was some place, I know there's a lot of people that they do the research just in like parks and campgrounds and places like that and places like that. You can put a camera and probably find it. But where I go, it's like in the middle of nowhere. If they were to take it and take it half a mile away, I would never find it so dense back in there. I actually thought about if we ever get a good spot down here that would be a decent place to maybe place cameras. I was actually thinking about trying to find some old style film cameras and putting those out, you know, and trying to lower that intensity of ultraviolet, something that just opens and captures right. And just see if it yielded anything. I thought, well, if we can get rid of that big warning light coming out of these cameras, maybe we could maybe sneak one by him and maybe capture one unaware. I don't know, maybe if he heard the click, it might piss him off. But I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea to have one, like two of them out facing each other and just off a little bit. Like your chances of capturing something might be a little bit better. Like a trap camera. Yeah, because they would see one. Yeah, I don't know how that would work. I got to think about that one tomorrow. What do you guys think about the drones? And I've not had any luck over here with them. Everything, even my livestock here and the birds and everything, it's driving them crazy, drones. And I've heard a lot of people talking about the ones that are doing research that they're throwing rocks at these drones. It's bigfoot. Yeah, I personally the high pitched sound, maybe that goes along with the drones. I'm not sure, but there's a few accounts that were because I've actually taken them out. Wow. Like with a rock or a boulder or something. Some of them drones are not cheap, so I imagine that's heartbreaking. If something toss a log up there, take your drone out or knock it out of the air like a baseball, like all the eagles and stuff like that. They're even attacking those drones. They're taking them out. So I don't know. That's crazy. There's something about them, like most wildlife, not like yeah, I don't know. I personally haven't really reviewed much drone footage yet. I'd like to get into that here very soon. I've played around with one just here around the farm, just messing around. But I'm not a good enough flyer to trust myself to go back in the woods and fly in between trees. I feel like I would a lot of people are just short distances, right? Yeah. Plus, like you said, the noise coming out of it, I feel like they'll hear it and try to get away. And if they can't get away we got one video where this thing fires a rock sidearm, throws a rock the size of a bowling ball. And my son, he's an animator and he's all about frame by frame stuff footage. And he got it down to this thing was sitting up and throwing this thing in less than a second. And the rocker fly. It's a video on YouTube. We got it on one of our videos. It's a couple of episodes back. We broke it down frame by frame and was showing this rock fires horizontally at a speed that's just unimaginable. And I was sitting there like, man, I was under the assumption that these things just grab a deer. But now I'm not so sure. I think they could probably kill one with a rock. I mean, it's incredible. It's faster than a man can throw one. I couldn't throw one like that. There's so many out there. There are so many out there that will throw you off and there's a lot of videos that waste your time, but then there's a few where when you really go into detail on them and break it down, you kind of sit there and you go, what the hell is this? This isn't a man. This is something else. What am I looking at? And that's what we got to do. And I think that's all of our responsibilities to go through these and literally weed out the bullshit, the crap and try to get to the real stuff and try to cooperate with each other as much as possible. That's one of the things I enjoy about watching you guys you guys doing exactly that right going through. And we note for me, it's the legitimate encounters from the ones that are there are good storytellers out there, right. Yeah, there's lots of them. I've been doing the YouTube channel. evalence is a hard way. You come on to some who I don't think you're ever going to please them. Right. They're always looking for that proof. They got to see what they got to see. A big footwalk in there and anything else, it doesn't really matter. But then when you show them that video, then they dissect it and they go for it and they start tearing it apart. But there is something to say like what you just referred to. It like we have to go over even those ones and kind of pick them apart and make a decision whether they're legitimate, legitimate, or again, like you said, somebody spending a lot of time hoaxing. Yeah, I do think there's definitely a large group out there that's, I don't know, I can't personally get in the mind state of why it would be entertaining to them, but I guess it's entertaining to them to just stir it up and confuse it. And recently I was reading into the lumber industry. The lumber industry in the United States, in the Pacific Northwest is $500 billion worth of business. Wow. And I started thinking about that, and I'm like, okay, so you've got 500 half a trillion dollars in a business in a gigantic forest area where you take lumber regularly. And if someone comes along and says, hey, I have legitimate proof that there's an archaic Human or an upright Bipedal Ape walking through here. All of a sudden, $500 billion is gone and that area is protected. And I started thinking, well, there's a good incentive for anybody to put out this information and continuously shut it down, shut the topic down. But it seems like more and more people are joining the side of, hey, we just want to know the truth of this. We're not going to stop until we do. But it's amazing. I heard a story today where I just interviewed someone this afternoon where they were camping at a lake, and out of nowhere there's no one around. They went 2 miles to get to a campsite that they wanted to be isolated. They wanted to be alone, backwoods camping, and out of nowhere a boat comes out of the darkness and spotlights them just like that. They just found them just like that. And tells them, like, hey, you can't be here, you got to go. And in the middle of the night, that night, they got left charged while they were in their tent. And you have to wonder why did the officials come straight to them and how did they know they were even there? It's incredible. There's a lot of levels and there's a lot of different things. Yeah, I think the government felt there no more than what they'll ever let us know. I don't know how much you guys believe in or think of or interview anybody with the UFO hole. I know there's a lot of people that are trying to put the two together, like the Bigfoot and the UFO and the aliens bringing dropping off the Bigfoot. And I myself don't really know where to go with that. But there is up here and with the Alberta Cattleman's Association, they are ordered, like if they have anything like there's been some mutilations up in this area and there's actually how do I call any in my community that have been told if you get anything like that, you're supposed to go straight to the police. Like the RCMP, the Canadian Mounted Police with your story or whatever it is. They're not supposed to talk to anybody else but the law enforcement. That's weird. And this only happened within the last ten years because there's a lot of these cattle mutilations happening and this powdery calling. They have had quite a few things like that go on with their livestock and they have to go straight to the government. Basically. They have to write out a statement and they're told to keep it hush hush. All right. It's kind of crazy stuff, but like that with how did they know, like you said, how do they know those people? Yeah. How did they know exactly where to be? It makes you wonder are they chasing them? Yeah. Or no of a way to do it. Yeah. It's incredible. The cattle mutilation thing is something in its own. I know we have stories of it here in Kentucky and the entire Ohio Valley, but we personally haven't even begun on that subject yet. It's definitely on the horizon. I can tell that this rabbit hole is big and it's going to take a long time to get through it. You go deeper and deeper and deeper. I don't know how far you go down there, though. How far do you want to go down there? That's the thing. Yeah, I've heard some stories recently. I've heard some stories recently, death threats, things like that. There's people threatening, there's people showing up, officials showing up to people's houses and basically telling them, hey, we don't want this out anymore. You know what I mean? I heard one story of a pretty prolific bigfoot enthusiasts actually being taken aside and being coerced into telling everybody that he was hoaxing. And he stands by that. He was not hoaxing, but he was told they were two. And then recently, about maybe four or five months ago, I found a video online of a I thought I was looking at a Sasquatch video. It was a mother and two daughters. And I'm going to continue putting this out here on this show because I know somebody else has seen it. And I want them to get a hold of me somehow because I think this is for me, this is confirmation. This video showed a lady and her two daughters, and they went to a place to picnic. And up in a tree is a thing watching them. And the little girl turns to the camera and she says, I want to go home. I don't want to be here. What is that? I don't want to be here. And the first thing I noticed was the little girl's eyes were dilating. As soon as I saw them dilating, I knew that this little girl is actually scared. She's going through some kind of a trauma. She's scared. She wants to go. So instantly I'm like, okay, what are they seeing? What's in the tree? An artist went back and he froze the frame and he started drawing it. He went to the location, measured the tree, and realized that whatever was sitting in the tree had its legs bent and it was going from one branch to another of 13ft, which means that if it stood up on its straight up and down, this thing was well over 16 to 17ft tall. Wow. I tried to save the video and then it disappears. That sounds familiar. Was that down in near that Bluff Creek area, like in California or I'm not real sure, but if that was a sales launch, that's the granddaddy of them all. I've never heard any of them being that tall. But this video literally disappeared. It's nowhere to be found. It's gone. And I have spent so many hours searching for it, and I've recently just kind of gave it up. I was like, okay, so obviously somebody doesn't want this video out there. They went to great lengths to make sure that it's just nowhere to be found. And even the artist, I thought, okay, well, the artist I'll look for, the artist can't find him either. Don't know where to even start. It was really strange when it happened because to me, it was a really interesting video. And I was very, very excited when I seen it because I'm like, hey, this is crazy. This is bigger than any of them. And then all of a sudden, they're just gone. I don't know what's going on, but there's definitely something to this. How many videos are out there that are just being blacked out and we're not getting to. See them. We're not getting to see these pictures. I wonder how you would protect yourself from that. Something like that. I've had helicopters flying over here. I think it was after about eight months after I did the YouTube channel. And we never see army helicopters here ever. And that just made me it could have been nothing. Right. For about a good week there, I was thinking, why now? Kind of thing. Yeah. Talking weird coincidence or something of that nature. Some of those things just, you know, that somebody's pulling the strings behind the curtain. They're wanting us not to know something. Because I can't say that even if a lot of these encounters that people talk about are hoaxes. But somebody but there's like a bunch out there. They believe that they saw something just like anybody else. They don't know. Like, I genuinely know that these people saw something, but they just can't put it in a word. Sometimes they say it's a Sasquatch. Sometimes they can't even tell if it's a Sasquatch. I know for a fact that it's out there, but somebody's trying to hide it from us. Yeah, I believe that too. It's crazy, man. I've got a story about not about an actual dogman. It was a baby. And this is documented up in Alberta back in 1943. My mother talks about this story she read in the city of Edmonton, the Edmonton Journal. It was back in 1943. And the Canadian Railway comes kind of through there near the city. And they were coming through. Do you guys are familiar with the Banff and Jasper provincial parks in Alberta? No. Okay. They're major provincial campgrounds, and they're right in the mountains. And the Sierra Railway kind of goes right through there. And so it was coming through the town and there was this box sitting on the track. So the conductor, he stopped, slowed the train down and went out to move this box. And when he got to it, he could hear this whining, crying sound coming from the box. And when he opened up, it was this half it was a hybrid. It was like it had a wolf head and a human body. And of course, he flipped out and he kind of backed up from it. They called the local sheriff there in Damp and they come and confiscated that box. And that's the last thing anybody heard of it. Wow. And it was an infant. Like in the paper. They said it was only a figured four months old wow. Gift card. And they said it had to snow. Maybe the ears and the teeth, but a human body. Wow. So that was documented. So a lot of people believed in that story. But of course, nothing was ever followed up on it. And it just kind of faded off in the history. Right? Yeah. It's interesting. It definitely lends itself to my theory. I had no idea of the story. That's pretty wild. I've been trying to actually find it in the archives, and I can't find it, but yet my mom swears they used to pay for all the time I was once a month thing and back in the day. And she remembers that story. And a lot of people talked about that for years, and then nothing. No kidding. Yeah. That's absolutely crazy. It makes me think, though, I mean, that's exactly what I'm leaning towards, is that these are grown. They're raised. If you had somebody training them and basically offering for them, then they would have to be raised. This thing would be torn between two different sets of instincts. Are they just letting them out, though? Are these escaped bunch? We talked about that because there are stories of two different ones clashing. There are stories we've heard of where there was these other ones that were almost a little bit more wolfish looking and different, like, brown colors and whatever. And then a larger, definitely more efficient black colored dogman goes for it and literally kills it. And we kept thinking that, well, I wonder if they had a few that have gone rogue and they send the black dogs to take care of it. Right? I don't know. It's crazy. In some ways, I kind of believe that if the whole hybridization is real with that, with the dog man, I think they're bred for the sasquatch government. They're using them to control the hunt down and control the population of the sasquatch. That would be my kind of theory on it. But I don't have nothing to really back that up. It's just an assumption. I've definitely heard of those stories. Too bigfoot or yeah, because to keep it controlled, we personally don't have anything to fight against sasquatch. And a lot of people believe that these are crazy animals. Yeah, I know there's some people out there. There was another podcast. What is it? Bigfoot chronicles. He does not want nothing to do with these things. 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that you are. I don't know. It would make me keep an eye out on new military installations placed around the pacific northwest. If they put up new bases, basically, I'd be looking for a perimeter of bases put around the forest areas. And if I saw that, I would probably lean towards the yes. They're being used to hunt them down. Well, there's natural, like, government parks and stuff. I kept thinking, like, my idea. This is out there. And I'm just thinking, if it's actually using a dog as their base for a hybrid human and dog, think of the speaker systems that they could put on just like, random watchtowers and have that little high pitched noise to control them, the little dog whistle to get them to go back and forth and stuff like that. That's kind of like where my head was at on that. Yeah, it's definitely out there. We have no basis. Yeah. No basis, a pattern. That's basically it. Yeah. Dog man is such a huge can of worms that it's hard to because sasquatch is a little bit easier to sink your teeth in that could have lived with us as we are evolving into what we are today. I can't get behind that. Dog man was right next to us, too. Yeah. Living side by side. There has to be something. It's man made. Man designed. Yeah. I feel like it's not a natural occurring thing. We don't have a blueprint. We have gigantic pivagus in our natural history that says that hey, an upright thousand pound ape is possible, but we don't have anything that says that an upright bipedal canine is possible. So it makes me think that maybe they designed it. But again, it's all speculation until we go further with the pattern and hopefully I just hope we're wrong, to be honest with you. I don't want to be right about that. Yeah, bigfoot, I'm on board if I could help prove that I feel good about that. But dog man I don't want to prove dog man to be real because I feel like there's a bigger monster behind the dog man, and that's us. Yeah. It's so twisted, right? That whole dog man concept, like the whole design of it, it's off. Yeah. And whenever I think about the mysteries I've had some experiences here, and I couldn't say if it was dogma that it was not Bigfoot and it was scary stuff. I don't know if it's like you were saying, they seem to be traveling together but avoiding each other. Yeah, and I never really put my thought into it, but you were just mentioning there about the government using them to keep an eye on Bigfoot. Maybe, possibly. It just seems very crooked and twisted that whole even how like, if they're creating these creatures. I mean, it's so twisted, right? It's got dog and human and what else in there? Yeah. What else could they be making? I don't know. Serious things? How would we ever know, right? I don't know if we'd ever know. I feel like you have to have top security clearance. Yeah, it's just me. I feel like I'm a guy with an aluminum hat on right now. Yeah, no kidding. Well, Rob, we are hitting the one and a half hour mark here, so that'll probably be good for the episode. Do you want to plug your channel or anything?

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Just with what we got here? Like I said, I want to thank you guys for coming forward and reaching out and connecting absolutely. Well, with your permission, we'd like to plug your channel and get some folks over there to show some support and check out what you got now, little I have I'll push your way. We appreciate it, man. I appreciate it. Keep putting it out there. You have a good evening and thanks again. Hell yeah, man. We appreciate it. Keep doing what you're doing, man. Is your head on a swivel? Yeah. If you're out and about. Absolutely. Okay. We appreciate you, man. You have a good one. Bye. You too. Thanks. Bye. Bye. All right, folks, that was Robert from Swan Lake bigfoot YouTube channel. You definitely want to check him out and check out those videos. And that is one good dude to talk to. I really enjoyed the entire conversation. Oh, yeah, totally. When you were talking about the eyes, he actually got eyeshine. Oh, yeah. I actually ran over there over to his channel and check that out. That's a little creepy. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah. The way that he it was really zoomed in a little bit, but it was right over his shoulder. Yeah, I saw that. I would have shit myself if I saw that on camera. I'm like, no, he definitely does keep his cool, and he keeps right with it, and I really appreciate that about him. I enjoyed this episode a lot because I feel like we all kind of, like, gave information back and forth and we kind of learned it felt like we were networking a bit more. Yeah, we're networking. And I like that because I don't know how much truth is the whole infrasound thing was. But after him saying that experience that he's had and all the symptoms that he had and you listed it, that's crazy. I like that because it actually gives a little bit more credibility to that whole. Absolutely. It definitely lends itself over to the symptoms of the 7 Hz range. But that's a big thing with the sales watch that took on a huge following when someone actually brought that up, that impending dread feeling, that nausea, the sickness, all that, and it made me interested. So I wanted to know if there was any sound frequencies that could actually produce that. And I came across the 7, found out that this was medically proven and that lots of animals out there actually use the 7 Hz frequency to disable and dissuade other animals from messing with them. So it's very interesting and also very terrifying. Yeah, very. Some of the stuff that you listed, too, were mammals, considered mammals. So it's not off the beating path. Yeah, not too far. Unless we find a sasquatch egg. I don't even want to know if it's a sasquatch egg. I don't want to discover it. I don't want to know anything about it. Just keep that from me. If you find one, just hide it from me. Don't let me know about it. I think my brain would explode. I don't think I'd be able to. So I guess you want to end this. Yeah, I think we should say goodbye for now. Real quick, though, I definitely wanted to plug that. Definitely going to want to check out next week's episode after this one. We have a really cool encounter from Cave Run Lake, and it's going to be a little different. Basically what had happened was I had the opportunity to record a firsthand account and I had to take it. I wasn't prepared. So the audio is going to be a little different. But I figured what we could do is we could get in here and we will record our podcast and I'll just play the story in the podcast for everybody to check out. So I think it's going to be really interesting. Tyler, I think you're going to enjoy it a lot too. I can't wait to hear it. It's creepy, but it's good, you know what I mean? So definitely appreciate everybody. Yeah. Make sure you go check out Swan Lake. Bigfoot yup you have. Send him some love. He's got some good videos on here. He's actually out in the field trying to find a big guy, man. Yes. Trying to get him yeah, he's a really good man to talk to. So much love. Absolutely subscribe. Hell yeah. Absolutely. And you know what, speaking of, like, sharing and subscribing, don't forget to do that on the podcast. And we appreciate everybody who has. And those of you guys that are driving back and forth right now going to and from work, listen, we appreciate you and thank you for the support. Thank you for keeping the thing going and we appreciate it, as always. I don't think I'm ever not going to say that I'm really blown away by you guys out there. And I'm glad you're out there listening and I'm glad you like what we're doing. Yeah, I think that's it, man. Let's say goodbye before one of us starts crying. Yeah, shut up. Let's dance. Let's dance. See ya. Bye, guys. Bye, everybody.