S111: The internets best bigfoot evidence? With guest - Police Chief Jared Landis.

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something that would be in the context of the super. He described as being a great silverlooking upright Bible creature. Dragging a deer out of that face, going to kill us.

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Do you believe in demons? And it takes one big step and vanishes. I'm like, oh, my God, that was a big thing. Look at these pictures of this white creature. Something seven foot three, eight foot tall.

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That's when I knew it was a dollar.

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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Kentucky X Files podcast. Me and Tyler are here. Little unorthodox intro this time because we have a good friend of ours and he is a why don't you tell him, Lana? What is your law enforcement background currently? I'm the chief of police of Lidonia. I've been there since November of 2020. For that I was a 911 dispatcher for nine years. Before that I was a police officer. Another small town for about nine years. Before that I worked in jail as a sergeant for about three years, basically since I was 18 years old, 37 now. Been in law enforcement the whole time. It sounds like you've been law enforcement more than civilian life, right? All right, so we wanted to get you on here with us because we are in an investigation also, which you may laugh at, but we've sort of been sucked into the crusade to figure out if Bigfoot is actually out there or if it's the biggest hoax ever pulled off. So getting your opinions is a really big deal for us. Glad to be here. So just that being said, what is your opinion on the whole thing? Do you believe? Do you don't believe everybody leans some kind of way? I definitely think it's possible that it could exist. I think also that if it did exist, that there would be some kind of proof shown by now. It can't be argued.

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Okay. For anybody following along at home, what we did was we let land here, the bigfoot four one one alleged 911 call, and we wanted him to hear it, just get his take on it and play a little bit of it here. It'll record onto the podcast, but I won't play the whole thing with someone or something or an animal, I can't tell. All I know is my central light came on and I just happened to glimpse and see this running across the yard. A good sized man or something that looks like a man. I don't know if it was just crazy, but deal. Hello? Get somebody out there. What's going on now? Sir? I thought the bench is about six foot nine. I don't know, sir. Yes,

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sir. Yeah. God, he's big. Okay. What's he seeing? Yard. Okay, so you get to just land as you heard the call and you're saying that the protocol of the dispatcher is all wrong. Yeah, completely wrong from the very beginning. Okay, so based on that, you're leaning towards this is a bunch of bull. Yeah, I think unless it's been completely edited, there's no way for that to be an effective way of doing a job as a dispatcher. And a dispatcher would know that if a dispatcher knows that they're doing it wrong, that video or recording would have been leaked out or however it came into somebody's possession because it's basically embarrassing. Got you. I haven't heard it in a while, but I thought it actually starts out with them actually answering the phone, so I don't know how you would edit that. How did she say what was the first line that she said? She said, 911, what are you reporting? Yeah, even if that's that so I've heard countless like I just told you, I even typed in 911 calls. Most of them that are, I guess, like you'd see on your news channel, they always say they might not say what are your reporting, but what is your emergency? Every single one. None of them said that how he's saying it. I can understand what's the address of the emergency? They always say, what's the emergency? What are you reporting? None of them ever said that in any of these 911 calls that I've ever looked up. So this is good. I'm glad that you came on and told us this because I was actually believing that this could actually have some legitimacy to it because the sound of the man was really profound, like he sounded like he was in some kind of trouble. Okay, so I just found something interesting. Land to get your take on this. I just found out the origin of that call is actually not from 2009, it's actually from the happened in Washington state. I don't know if that changes anything or what. Like I told you earlier, before we came on air, basically the job of a 911 dispatcher would be to get where are the problems happening. I don't care if it was from 1970 or today. The biggest, most important priority is to find out where this call is coming from, because at any time they could hang up, get disconnected, or get killed. And if you don't have a place to send any kind of help, that call is worthless. So any type of training from any decade would be to drill in. Where is this happening at, what kind of helped, whatever it may be to you. Okay, so that's what I'm getting at. So the time period of the call doesn't even matter at this point. We know that the operator either it was either faked or the operator just wasn't doing the job well. Wasn't doing the job correctly. Right. Okay, that's interesting. I wonder also why the date was edited for the movie, the original call. It says here was 911 call that happened in the mid 1990s at kitsap peninsula in washington state. The audio came from a man who called nine one because he wanted someone to come out because he thought he had a big foot in his yard. The man explained that the thing was big and black, and he also says in the call later that it was looking right at him. The police did eventually arrive, but did not see anything in his yard. A week later, the sheriff's office got a picture from the man of what was possibly maybe a bigfoot in another person's backyard. But there's no 911 call, and that's not on record. Yeah, that's unfortunate. I'd definitely be skeptical about the realism of all of it. Yeah, it's interesting, that's for sure. One thing we've noticed, too, is that when you go into this, which to be honest, six months ago, I'd occasionally watch a bigfoot show on TV or something just past time, but was never interested, if I'm being honest. Just not interested. I thought, no way. But I've learned a lot about the bigfoot communities. There's a bunch of different groups within the bigfoot community that basically don't agree with everything. And there's some that think that it's like a spiritual creature. There are some people who are, this is flesh and blood. Then I found another group when I was digging that attributed all of the mass amounts of disappearances in our major national parks possibly linked to the sasquatch. Are you familiar at all with all of the disappearances? Like the crazy amount of disappearances? I don't know any particular numbers or anything like that. I know that people going missing in state parks is a pretty common occurrence. Just between getting lost and things like that, where things could pass away. Yeah, when I was digging into it because I thought it was interesting even without the lincoln bigfoot to it, I thought, wow, it's crazy, the amount of disappearances. And it's all just concentrated to these little areas, massive state parks. And the one thing that really popped up for me, well, a prominent thing, was the missing 911 films. Have you seen those at all, or are you familiar with them? I haven't seen those. Or missing 401. Sorry. He was an investigator, and he kind of went from working in law enforcement to basically spending his life just focused on this one thing. These national park disappearances, some of the stories that he's collected are crazy. I mean, just crazy. And there's a big group of people that feel like there's something going on in these big parks, and there's something where six or seven people go out together. They're not separated by much. And then one guy just vanishes. Not a trace, nothing of his left behind, nothing. And then there's more reports of people who swear up and down there's bigfoots banging on their houses and looking in their windows and stuff and calling 911 and trying to get law enforcement out there. Did you ever get any weird calls while you're on dispatching? We did have bears, which we don't have a lot of bear in our area at all. In the middle of one of our bigger towns, there's a bear going through somebody's trash, get people on illegal drugs calling in, saying that there's vampires attacking their cars, I mean, all kinds of things. What people can see. I do believe that people believe what they think they're seeing is real, but I can tell you in emergency situations and times of great stress, you're going to see things that aren't there. You're going to overestimate what you are seeing. Okay. It's just common. I think it's kind of a defense mechanism that has been implanted in us since we've been around. And I think a lot of times almost everything can be explained to some point. As far as national park, state parks, people going missing, I know in japan, the suicide rates and a lot of parks are just ridiculous because when people want to go in their life, they want to find a nice, peaceful place. And a lot of parks, national parks are some of the most beautiful places in the country. And if they're going to go do it, that could be a reason why they choose that location to go disappear, leave nothing but a car parked in a parking lot and that's to go off of. But there's just a lot of possibilities that always doesn't revolve around mythical creatures or things that go bump in the night that might not be there, but I'm not saying it's not. Yeah, we get you. When I was looking through, I looked into your state quite a bit and don't have a whole lot of sasquatch reportings in your state. In missouri, I could see maybe down in like the ozarks or something like that, but live on a flat plane that if they were here, they'd be seen hiding in the hills. That we don't have the cave systems we have. They're all tourist attractions. So basically, if there's a good place for them to hide, there's people already there doing their own business. I didn't find sasquatch sightings in your area. I found something else, which is something we've also discussed on the podcast. It looks like st. Louis county has a little bit of a record for dog man sightings. I will add on real quick to st. Louis county. St. Louis county also has the highest drug use rate in the state. So we're probably chasing the dead end on that one, huh? Right. I almost said chasing our tail, but I didn't want to pull upon to throw back onto the whole, like the missing four, one one and all that all the strange missing. I looked it up. On average, over 600,000 people go missing in america every year, and they say most of them are 95% are mostly runaways, less than 8% or abductions with a noncontrodial parent. But 1% are strange abductions. Like they don't know much of that. At least 6000 a year that go missing for no reason. I'd like to see what they break down into that category because a lot of abductions that just can't be explained at all, that they have no evidence of anything, foul play or whatever it might be, whatever they don't have anything better to classify it as. I can see it getting thrown into a strange occurrence, but I don't know what the criteria is they use for that. It would be interesting to see it, just to see all the breakdowns of it. And whatnot I think something that I find really interesting here is that to be honest, I've been sitting here searching for more 911 calls in regards to cryptids and unexplained creatures. There's not that many.

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I feel like everybody has that thing in the back of their mind. If they see something that screwed up, they either A, believe that they're on their own or they're just too terrified to even contact anybody because come on. I swear if I saw dog man outside my door, I'm like, who am I going to call? The men in black? I think a lot of it could be when people do have possibly in an encounter or something like that, think of where they're going to be at out in the middle of the wood somewhere that doesn't have cell phone reception. You're not going to be making that one call a lot of times I wouldn't think that's true. Yeah. Wellanda, that brings me to something we were talking about before that I actually found pretty funny. We were talking back. Okay, well, if Bigfoot is grabbing people, right, okay. There's the whole Big thing of the blurry pictures, right? So we can tell that I got into this discussion and we landed on this one is, okay, so whoever out there has a great clear picture of Bigfoot, do you think they're still alive? If nobody's getting a clear picture and Bigfoot really is there, doesn't that mean Bigfoot's really good at getting rid of people? It could be the biggest killer of our yeah, we just need to find those iPhones or something that has the most spot on picture of Bigfoot out in the wood somewhere. There's probably hundreds of pictures of him floating around on old iPhones. He's like, you didn't move, man. I told you to move. I was like six times. I'm going to try to find you a photo to send. But I will say this. As far as blurry photos or Bigfoot, I don't care if they were taken in the 70s or right now. Whenever Bigfoot first started coming around, I can tell you as far as law enforcement goes, when we're looking for somebody that stole a car or burglarize something almost 99% of the time, the pictures that we get of the highest performing cameras, the best technology we have to locate people. 99% of the time, that photo is so blurry, you can't make out what kind of vehicle they even stole. So to say that, oh, Bigfoot is only seen in blurry pictures, that's true in a lot of things. When you're using security cameras or trail cams or just trying to capture something with a good quality camera while it's moving, it's not an uncommon thing for things to be blurry. I notice that myself. I set up a trail cam we had here on the farm. We had some gigantic bird tracks. Just huge three toe, just dinosaur looking tracks. Right. And by the way, we're pretty sure that the bird in question is a blue herring. A really big kind of like a king fisher. But at the time, it was fun to kind of speculate like, what the hell is out here? We started nicknaming it. Bird squatch. I put a trail cam out and within four or five days, we had a whole bunch of blurry pictures and one halfway blurry video of a deer walking past the camera. It took a lot to get to a good one, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And that stuff that you're going to see all the time and finding a picture that shows a good clear picture, it's hard to do. Yeah, that was the other thing was supposing. You're out in the middle of the woods, right? All of a sudden, this eight foot tall bipedal ape man walks out and you're just standing there. Get 30, 40ft away, he's looking to you, you're looking at him. At what point do you decide to get your camera out, get your phone out, and just take the most still perfect picture you've ever taken? Human beings are not programmed that way. You'd have to seriously train yourself to be able to do that in high stress, fearful situations. It shouldn't be a natural reaction, even in law enforcement. I've seen over the years, lots of people in a situation where you go to grab your gun, that's the last thing on their mind. It's turning around and getting the safety right and then collecting yourself enough to know that this is what I need to do. And when you're scared and your adrenaline is running, the phone is not on your mind or camera's not on your mind. I could definitely say that I don't think I would have the I don't think I'd have the nerve. I really feel like I would fail the bigfoot community big time if they were dependent on me to get a picture. Even if that's exactly what you set out to do, you want to go out and get pictures of Bigfoot. When it comes down to it, that's not going to be what's on your mind when you're face to face with it. Yeah, I think I said that in previous episodes. It's like, no matter what, if you really believe that Sasquatch is real. But you're always going out thinking maybe it's not real. That's always going to linger in the back of your mind. Because all the things like, we have proof, we don't have proof this and that. Your faith is shaken in the fact that Bigfoot is real because you've been out here countless times and then but finally he pops out on you. I don't think you'll ever be ready for that. I don't know how many times you have to look at yourself in the mirror every day that you go out, I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. It's like you're not going to be ready. You're not going to be ready. Do you know maybe the people that have trained themselves well enough to do that grabbed their camera and then got taken? That's what you're saying? Yeah, I'm just saying the world is just like making it sound like they want this picture to be flawless. Like they want you like you see a Bigfoot, they want you to stick a thing in the ground, put your camera on it. Take out a sheet of paper. Make sure you get the white balance right. Okay. Got it. Focus your camera like this. Do everything. Maybe spruce up him. Maybe get him like makeup. Makeup. Come in. Put a little like okay, the light's good. Okay. Okay. Say cheese. Say you're not going to get that. More than likely I'd go to get my phone out and then I'd be sitting there trying to swipe the screen saver off and it's messing up and doesn't want to got damaged. I get spam calls and somebody tells me that my insurance or my warranty on my car is up and all that would happen. And then a couple of seconds later, a Bigfoot probably would walk over and beat the shit out of me. And I would deserve it too, because I'm dependent on technology and I'm not prepared and I wouldn't be ready for a picture. But I wonder about that because it's a big argument. It's a huge argument out there in regards to this as well. Why are the pictures all blurry? Why are all the pictures blurry? Why is there any 4K clear video of the Sasquatch? Why don't we handle that? I would almost bet that, you know, a full corpse or live being is found for a clear picture is ever taken. Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. I'm going to send you another link landis. I want you to see what they describe as the sylvanic Bigfoot, the man who supposedly discovered them. His name is Todd Standing. And I just like to get your opinion of the Todd Standing Bigfoot and I am going to try to find one here. Get your reaction. I'd actually like to know your reaction to the man himself, Todd Standing. See what you think of him. A lot of people have a lot of different opinions of him, so it's really interesting to hear what everybody has to say about him. I think I found it. Yeah, here it is. All right, I'm going to send this over. Give that a look, man. Tell me what you think of that, and I'll find you something of Todd standing himself. By the way, disclaimer. I'm not saying whether or not these are proof videos by any means. I'm just going through the data, and then the next one I put up is Todd standing himself, just discussing a few things. Here what he has to say. So watch that. Yeah, I would say that's definitely a mask. The eye movement looks almost robotic. The nostrils don't move when anything takes a breath. Yeah, the lips is what got me. The lips are just pursed and they're just locked in just a slight, completely flat line. Yeah, I think I've said the same thing about that, because if you even like, okay, we're basing these off of, like, primates. If you look at a primate, even like all primates, it just doesn't look natural how all the other primates, like, snouts and lips look, there's like a certain texture or look to it that it shows, like, realistic look at an actual lowland gorilla and look at the animation in the face. They're so attentive, and they actually have expression. And then you look at Mr. Standings, his alleged bigfoot, like I said, not trying to disprove anybody or whatever, but it's pretty hard to it's really hard to get behind it. Yeah, definitely. That first video, I wouldn't be a believer off that. The movement of the head itself almost looks like it's on a stick or something.

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Yeah. Okay, here's something here. I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for saying this, but I've got the video going also. I'm recording what I'm seeing, and I know you guys can't see it from your point of view, but I could actually hang on. I might be able to share my screen. Yeah, I can share my screen. Okay,

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so I'm sharing my screen if you guys want to see what I'm seeing here. And I'm going to go back to Mr. Standings supposed bigfoot here and show you something that I noticed a while ago. And if I can find it here. Yeah, there it is. Can you guys see what I'm seeing? Yeah. Okay, so this one, I think we all agree that flat line right there is kind of even the lift of that head just doesn't look like I don't see any reaction here. Right. This one right here? Yeah, this one looks weird. Okay, check this out. So where's the shoulders at? Why does this neck just go straight down? Why is it there a big, wide shoulder? And if you actually watch that thing for the while, it does not blink. It doesn't do anything. See that? There's a gigantic area of body missing right here. But over on this guy, we've got let me back it up a little more. Yeah. Then there's that right there. I just cannot get behind that blank. It's just too robotic. And then it's awfully well groomed for standing in the middle of the woods with that type of hair. You'd think there'd be yeah, it's very matted. A leaf or some kind of debris somewhere. Right. But right here, there we go. Let me pause that. You can see we've got a shoulder, very defined shoulder. Even the traps are not quite as big as you'd expect, because if this was the actual Patty, then you'd be expecting a lot bigger jaw right here and a large trap muscle to support that. But we're not getting that. We have a real human transition to the shoulder. But it just made me wonder because on this guy, we've got no shoulder whatsoever. It's almost as if there's a stick down here leaning back and forth. It still creeps me out that it doesn't blink and it doesn't blink whatsoever. Most dolls don't. Yeah. So when I see that this one, I think, as a standalone, I think is really good. If this is a manic and it's made it's made very well, but the robotic eyes just can't get behind it's. Kind of like you said, you didn't want to debunk them or say it's not real. To me, that's one of the bigger problems I have, is obviously, to me, that's fake, and I will tell him that's fake. And I think there needs to be more of that to get the actual good footage or documentation. Well, there's another detail right there, too, is that if you look at this okay, so you got this camera angle, right? We got this camera angle. We got this big stick right here in between us and the camera angle. All right. Now, over here oh, where's that? I think I lost it. I did lose it. Okay. We've changed positions with the camera, but this guy has not moved. He's not reacting. He's not turning and looking. Surely he would have noticed you moving. Yeah, because you can see the camera movement and anything would get some kind of a reaction if that's real.

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Two different camera angles and he didn't even move. He has to be like

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the slow one of the bunch because, come on, he's standing still in no real big brush or any of that to make it sound like do you really believe that how stealthy these things are? Do you think that he's just like, okay, if I stand still, this is how they taught me. He won't see me. Like, I don't believe that at all. If they know that you're seeing them, they're just going to go on with their business. Let's bump this. Oh, we can't. We can't bump it up. That's another thing. It can't seem to up the quality of these. Yeah, interesting. The way it moves doesn't get me on its side. And that one there, that one looks like an owl. It really looks like the lifts, the lack of shoulder. Yeah. Not really sure, but yeah, that's from probably one of the most renowned I want to say researcher, but I want to say that term very

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loosely. I guess Mr. Todd standing there's. A lot of different opinions about him. I don't really have one, but I think he's definitely passionate. He's very passionate. He's very suggestive about what he's seeing out there, which makes me wonder. Yeah, definitely interesting. Earlier, we were talking about the video from Yellowstone, was it? Yeah. Thinker Thunder has been all over this one. And Linda, you actually said this is the one that yeah. If there was a video that I've seen that looked authentic to me, that top.

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Okay. What about it? When you first seen it, what stood out the most to you? It's a camera that sets to record all day, every day. It's from a state park, so it's not going to be tampered with. I think that what really gets me is camera was placed, not four on screen at the same time

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in the background. You there. First things first off, this video this video, as I was saying earlier, I know we weren't recording yet, but that's what thinker Thunker was going into. She was actually cutting them out of a still image and pasting them next to the big bison right here. Basically showing that even when he moved them all the way up next to the bison, even though the bison is closer, those were still bigger. Depth perception in the human eye is one thing, but the camera depth perception is kind of fixed. So, just suffice to say, there's really no way, other than digital digitally editing it, there's really no way to full depth perception and still camera like this or a stationary camera. The thing about this video that's creeping me out the most is the cadence of the different walking patterns. The very first one that goes walking out looks to me like it has some kind of limp. I know I might be reaching, I might be grasping on this one, but it almost, to me, looks like one trying to get away from the others. They look real nonchalant walking. I don't know if you guys are still watching my screen or not. There's another detail that I picked out that I'm trying to pause that if I can get it. Yeah, there it is right there. Can you guys see that? The length of that arm? Yeah. That's huge. As opposed to what? I'm trying to make a guess here. This is all leg, or maybe some waist and leg, but the size of that arm right there is the thing that's jumping out of me big time. The proportion would be a little off to be a normal man. And I'm guessing about Ford and. At that point, he would truly be in a world of hurt

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where we get our first glimpse. There could be a lot of reasons why that one was walk different. This could be a different gender. It could be younger, more playful. There's no end of the possibilities on why it would walk differently than the others and tell how they did it. Do you see the actual difference in the way it was

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trying to avoid the other ones? So many possibilities for it. The first thing that I thought when I looked at it was like, what is it?

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What's it doing? It has one arm that isn't swinging either. For a group like that, it could definitely be a family unit going back home after foraging or trying to find another warm place to stay. I'd say with what looks like pretty good wind going in the background from snow or fog moving, they might just be trying to find a warmer place to move to. Yeah, that's wild. It is definitely a great video. Makes you wonder. It is walking around. Do they even allow people to walk out there by the bison? The way that Thinkerthunker was saying he was saying that this is like a rare buffalo herd or something like that. And it's actually a crime to mess with her. Really? It's because it's like a national park. You could be in danger. It's like put yourself in danger just being doing that kind of stuff

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with what was there four or five of them walking around and the buffalo didn't react? React, yeah. I'm sure that they probably knew they were there and are used to seeing them. Yeah, I actually had the video playing on high speed. Yeah, it looks like they were moving pretty quick. I didn't really mean to do that. See if I can get back into this little bit. Yeah, just that distance there. If bison or anything like cattle that you see on any farm, they would have probably looked up and at least checked them out. But you don't see that. They don't react at all

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well. Like you were saying, like the wind the wind is probably gusting pretty good right there because all the snow moving around. Yeah, you can kind of see it. There might be, like, just too much wind noise. Now we got it in slow motion here. I don't know if any other details will pop up because of this, but at least you could see it. How? I was hoping to see it before, but I set the speed wrong. I was wondering I was like, damn, they're really hauling ass through there. They're on a mission. Yeah, you can see look at the arms on that guy. Holy crap. Well, the one thing is, too, it seems like towards the end, towards the last person that you're talking, like last person, it's the only one that clear. Like well, I can't say clear, but the tree is not that big. And they already went behind it, and then I don't know, one come out and then the others don't. That was the other thing that bothered me was where the hell are they going? Yeah, look at that. You can see the full swing of that arm. That's crazy. I mean, come on, man. When's the last time you went walking like that in deep snow and Yellowstone? I'd be frozen. I wonder how far they had to go out to walk to get to where they would be if it was a person in a costume. Even if you're running around in a costume, are you going to be running this easily through? I think that would make it even harder to go through that snow. If you look, it looks like it almost goes halfway up the calf, the leg, and then look how long the leg is. Even with that going on, just on a glance, that looks abnormal to me. But I'm not an expert in this. I'm definitely not an anatomy expert, but it just looks odd. Look at from where the knee bends to where the foot ends. Yeah, that's just a huge leg. Yeah, that's wild. It looks like it's carrying something I'm still kind of worried about. Where are the other ones? That tree is not that big. You can see one still going, moving in the back. Why did they stop? What did they stop for? They changed directions, but this one kept going. It's weird. Everything about this video is just strange to me. Oh, and that's part of an unknown behavior to an unknown animal. What they're doing could seem completely normal to them, and we would have no frame of reference to judge it off of. Yeah, we don't really have anything there that we can even look up. Here in the right in my search bar, you can actually see the Thinker Thunker where he cut one out and pasted it next to the bison. Look at that. Even at that distance, that's big. I'm not actually sure how big a bison is. Like, how tall is a bicycle? You said they go off the shoulders. It's like five foot to six foot. Here we got eight. Well, we're looking at American bison, aren't we? Okay, so I think that's extinct. That looks some of them could be up to 8ft tall, saying yes. Six American vice is largest mammal in North America, £2000 6ft tall. I guess that's the average. I don't know. A buffalo is about 79 inches to 138 inches, 660 to £2200. So that's pretty good size. It's definitely not something that four or five people walking around the woods are going to dwarf on a regular basis. Yeah, I mean, there's the animal right there we're looking at. That's a big old dude. And the picture that he's showing, it looks like it at least goes over a foot, maybe two, maybe like, one and a half from the back. So man, even with that

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would actually what would you think from pulling it from back of the image to pulling it up front and it's showing that it's at least two more ft taller than the bison itself. And they say on average it grows to about 6ft on the bison. Yeah, it says the average is like six to six and a half feet. Wow. That would have to be judging from that. Yeah, I'd say at least 2ft taller. And being that far back. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like that far back then putting that image up there, it's still taller than what it's pulled forward. And we're not getting the actual full. This thing literally could probably the top of the buffalo or the bison, whatever you call it, could probably come up to its chest or a little up above on the top of the stomach. I wonder if like three or four of them get big. Dudes, get together, go ahead and take a buffalo down. Like, hey, man, we're sick of deer. Let's just go get one of them. Well that's another thing too. They eat meat, they eat deer. What's stopping them from eating one of these buffalo?

Participant #1:
That's the reason why they didn't want to tangle with one. Is that's the reason why that one was limping? I was going to say maybe they were. Maybe what we're seeing is like a walk of shame. They're on their way back. They're like, dude, that was a terrible idea. Todd. He said shut up. Shut up Richard. Shut up Richard. He's just holding his arm like I'm going back to the I guess the underground cave system. I don't know. Are there any big caves in Yellowstone? Do we know that? Let's find out. Let's see if there is. I wonder the Lewis and Clark Caverns.

Participant #1:
Apparently there's a few. This one says natural trap cave located in the federal land of Big Horn mountains. Kind of skipping through here a little bit. Used by the Native Americans dating back 9000 years.

Participant #1:
It's pretty wild. Yes, it's pretty wild. What do you think, Lando? Should we go to Yellowstone and try to find a bigfoot I'm up for it. We got to get us a clear picture. Probably not. Tyler actually has a pretty interesting story. Something that happened to him a while back. How old were you Tyler? Eleven or 1211 or twelve. We just had this discussion in the truck the other day and when he first told it to me, I won't deny a little bit, little bit of the hair on the back of my neck stood up because like when he was telling it, I'll let him say it, say what happened. But when he told me I was like, I don't know man. I don't know if that's what you saw. Do you want to tell it? Okay. Where my head is. I actually did tell Lana. Okay. Before we started. Do you want to put this on this episode or were you just going to add it's going to be broken up anyway, so it doesn't matter. Okay. I didn't know if you wanted to do that, but okay. We can.

Participant #1:
Okay. I guess so let me brown cow. Brown cow. Brown bison. Brown bicycle. There you go. Brown bigfoot bison. Bays in the backyard. Days in the backyard. Alligator chewing gum. Alligator chewing gum. Step brother. What are you doing? What are you doing?

Participant #1:
This lana didn't laugh at that one. Normal. Yeah, I mean, it's totally fine. Okay. So yeah, I was eleven or twelve. I live in a suburb, kind of surrounded by a couple of farm areas and some open land too, as when I was a kid. The trails are still back there, but there's a little open lot, decent amount of acreage back there. They're open up. There's a little pond back there and stuff. But we go back there, we ride bikes all the time, just chill back there, run the trails. But one day I went there back by myself, and I was walking around, just walking the trails. And then I go to the back down this little area. I'm following the trails still, and there's kind of like this big little mound of dirt. I guess every time we kind of made it into like a hill we used to jump our bikes off of. But I coming up this little hill and I don't know, I was kind of caught off guard. I saw a black bear. So I was like, I'm in shock. I was like so I just remember I back up and I get out of there, but I just remember the bear kind of looking around. It never acknowledged me at all. And it just looked like it was looking for something else. It was on hot pursuit for something else. I don't know what it was, but I told a couple people, but they always just told me there's no black bears. There's no black bears. But I'm positive that I saw a black bear. But there was no reports of any black bears that I know of. I was 1112 years old, so I wasn't really googling this stuff. So I just remember that I sold a black bear. But now, telling the story, well, I just chopped it up as a black bear. But telling the story to Danny, he kind of has a little different idea that it might be something different other than a black bear because there's no black bears in our area. Yeah, when he tells me the story and I'm sitting there and I'm like, just recently I came across I'm trying to find it right now, actually, I came across a story. Someone in Alexandria, Kentucky, near the same area near they described it as one of the larger suburban areas in northern Kentucky. Saw an unexplained creature nearby. And Tyler tells me that story and I'm sitting there like, wow, that's the second time I've heard something like this. He's like, what do you mean? I started telling him. I'm like, yeah, there's apparently either a bigfoot or a dog man sighting in the same area. One of the things we've come across a lot with the dog man is that people always assume it's a black bear first, but it usually stands up on a tin legs, and that's when they realize that what they're looking at is not that at all.

Participant #1:
Yeah. I feel like we'd be having a much different conversation right now. I think I'd probably be in a mental institution. Just saying. But the interesting part is the area that is in, there's been no reports of any kind of bear in that area ever. But there has been a couple of reports of unknown cryptids around that same area, and I found that very interesting. It'd be so interesting. We're actually thinking about taking a GoPro and going and checking the site out where he had this encounter. Definitely interesting. Yeah. Hopefully, we don't get eaten. Well, I guess if we do, we don't upload any more after this. Yeah. At least know what happened. And you guys can chalk it up from there, either. Say it's a conspiracy and what not of that, but it's probably dog man or sasquatch. Well, lando, we appreciate you jumping on here and giving us your opinions, man. Very appreciative. Hell yeah, man. Honestly, just getting you in here to even just kind of debunk that 911 call a little bit, that was absolutely awesome and definitely valued because it helps us it's helping us narrow things down with this pattern that we've been trying to go with. I'm helping denny. It's hard to justify a lot of these sightings because there are people out there making up false claims. You never know. Actually, I never even thought of this. When he kind of brought the whole 911 call up, and when you started just like that, cutting it out of the procedures that they were supposed to do and stuff, that helps us so much, because now that shows that sighting, it's more of a hoax than anything. So I appreciate yeah, that was awesome that you came in the clutch, man. Yeah, it's no problem. Anytime that I could be of a help, I'm glad to be here. Yeah, man. I would definitely like to get you back on here, man, if you kind of look over things and see what you think. Oh, yeah. I know you're not your chief of police now, so you're not very busy, man. You're very busy. But any of your dispatchers, if they get any weird calls about some crazy, like, some hairy creature, lock that down. We need that. Yeah, let us know, man. That'd be awesome. And like you said in Missouri, there's not a whole lot boarded here. I think a lot of that's just the geographics of the state. No, but hey, I mean, stuff can happen. We don't know if it does, though. I know you'll be all over it. Oh, yeah. But we definitely appreciate you being on, man. And everybody listening, as usual. Thank you. And we really appreciate the crazy number of subscribers that we've been noticing and even more crazy amount of downloads this podcast has been getting. I know we say this almost every time. Very humbled by it. Really appreciate it. Hope you guys are joined. And we definitely were going to keep on going with Bore if you've had an encounter and you want to talk to us about it. Encounters@kyxfiles.com, you know the drill. So we will see you next time. Make sure you, like, share subscribe

Participant #1:
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